DC HEALTHCARE HOLDINGS BERHAD

KLSE (MYR): DCHCARE (0283)

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907 comment(s). Last comment by Domocius 5 hours ago

cytew

1,611 posts

Posted by cytew > 2023-11-23 13:18 | Report Abuse

Unload more shares into the market, in order to suppress the share prices further down, so later we can have opportunities to buy DCHCARE WA at low price ......good strategy ? 哈哈哈

Posted by stockhunter888 > 2023-11-23 15:15 | Report Abuse

Dont spread the negative comment...company have their own strategy...once the price up u will regret

Posted by Killsthebear > 2023-11-23 16:39 | Report Abuse

the cheaper, the better.

sonyx123

659 posts

Posted by sonyx123 > 2023-11-24 09:10 | Report Abuse

give up. lousy mgmt and deal advisors

SuperPanda

11,431 posts

Posted by SuperPanda > 2023-11-24 09:28 | Report Abuse

0.40 support broken, new low 0.385, i dont think it will recover soon

btw, i have no interest and have no shares, just sharing my thought on corporate scam, all the best to y’ll

007007

777 posts

Posted by 007007 > 2023-11-24 10:56 | Report Abuse

The selling seems over done. The acquisition at PE 12 is not unreasonable.

Birdie

82 posts

Posted by Birdie > 2023-11-24 15:38 | Report Abuse

!3 aesthetic clinics. Market Cap 400 plus million. ...rm30 million per clinic. Must be dumb to buy the shares.

Eddins

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Posted by Eddins > 2023-11-24 15:42 | Report Abuse

0.40 broke, runnnnn!!!

cytew

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Posted by cytew > 2023-11-25 16:57 | Report Abuse

👆👆Esos 和 warrant 都是 免费的 option, 前者送给职员,後者送给股东,老板得益最大,因为他是高层又是大股东..市场反应大,卖压越强,可以把股价压得越低,因此Esos 和 warrant的转换价 就可以定在低价位...然而 DCHCARE 是一只有强大成长动力的股(根据过去几年的成长数据的推算),当股价逐年上升,Esos 和 warrant 就很值钱了!明白吗?

jackjason

172 posts

Posted by jackjason > 2023-11-25 17:31 | Report Abuse

Share price push up right issue to get more money , press down during ESOS to get cheaper free share....

jackjason

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Posted by jackjason > 2023-11-25 17:56 | Report Abuse

I-bella only have 2 clinic with currently PAT RM2.9m and NTA RM4m. Feel like overvalue with 70m. During IPO DCHCare mention that to open a new clinic is about RM1m plus only. now they buy clinic with RM35m each. People can sell kosong clinic to DCHCare then setup a new clinic and call back the old royal client.

cytew

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Posted by cytew > 2023-11-25 18:26 | Report Abuse

Acquisition of I Bella is based on 2 perspectives, (a) To enhance the DCHCARE growth rate and momentum..(b) To turn a strong competitor into a team member (在兵法里,这可是最高境界的手段...Turn a strong enemy into one of own soldiers)

jackjason

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Posted by jackjason > 2023-11-26 17:14 | Report Abuse

最怕买个空壳公司,前老板暗渡陈沧和另起茅庐。要重开一家aesthetic clinic 门杆不高。

cytew

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Posted by cytew > 2023-11-27 05:22 | Report Abuse

不用担心 DCHCARE 和 I Bella 目前都是空壳股公司,因此它们的 ROE 特别高,成长动力基因强,所以值钱,君不见目前它的 trading PE特别高 !明白它的奥妙就在这儿吗 ?不懂就慢慢学习和观察吧 !

007007

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Posted by 007007 > 2023-11-27 08:55 | Report Abuse

Acquisition is the fastest way to grow. if you set up one clinic at a time, can you get the customers?

WANXKP

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Posted by WANXKP > 2023-11-27 09:10 | Report Abuse

acquisition is fastest way to grow only if acquire at reasonable price. old clinic can retain their royal customer or not is much depend on the doctor in that clinic. unlike retail shop, who is the seller not much different. but in clinic, patient or customer tend to follow their doctor. unless can make sure the doctor now working in I bella will remain in there for long term.

cytew

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Posted by cytew > 2023-11-27 10:25 | Report Abuse

DCHCARE ,13 clinic valued at 19 million per clinic , earning about 740k per clinic ( based on IPO price of 25 Sen), I Bella , 2 clinic valued at 35 million per clinic , earning about 1.45 million per clinic ...which one is cheaper ? Calculate yourself ...

Posted by Lee Ying Yee > 2023-11-27 15:38 | Report Abuse

cyt u face on shot ??

cytew

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Posted by cytew > 2023-11-27 15:59 | Report Abuse

We have started collecting this morning from 40 and below

jackjason

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Posted by jackjason > 2023-11-28 00:03 | Report Abuse

i will follow doctor not clinic, if doctor leave the clinic i will follow to new clinic. 😅😅. 35m buy kosong clinic is "Sohxi"

jackjason

172 posts

Posted by jackjason > 2023-11-28 00:08 | Report Abuse

can see share price sharp drop after acquisition announcement. Most of the invester not "Sxhai"

Plantermen

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Posted by Plantermen > 2023-11-28 11:32 | Report Abuse

Yes. Buying the 2 Bella clinics for the large sum of money is fork out is something to chew on. Clinics unlike retail stores are different. Clients loyalty tend to gyrate towards the doctor on a personal touch.

Posted by Cryptolover > 2023-11-28 13:35 | Report Abuse

speaking as someone from this industry, this acquisition is very fishy, like someone said... using 30+mil for a clinic is bonkers
plus bella clinic isnt a very famous franchise
and the entry level to setup an aesthetic clinic is surprisingly easy, hence alot of competition nowadays
this kind of IPO is just to enrich themselves at the cost of retail investors

Albukhary

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Posted by Albukhary > 2023-11-28 14:16 | Report Abuse

100% agreed, this type of boss is too selfish, it seem like they listed their company is to get money from public to benefit their ownself, they have no intention to work for the shareholder. Better avoid.

WANXKP

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Posted by WANXKP > 2023-11-28 14:16 | Report Abuse

finally someone talking something with sense

SuperPanda

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Posted by SuperPanda > 2023-11-28 15:33 | Report Abuse

as long as you hold, they will continue selling, once y'all cut losses, they will buy back the shares, give esos and bonuses, later pump back for you to buy higher

its not easy to make big profit from aesthetic business, need years to earn couple million, dealing with stock market and ipo's can make few millions in just months, then can retired, no need to cut people face anymore, life is beautiful

fortunefire

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Posted by fortunefire > 2023-11-28 16:25 | Report Abuse

business is saturated due to multiple offerings by competition. With 70mil you can open up more than just 2 clinics and hire better talent. So what's so special about this Bella clinic?

Posted by Cryptolover > 2023-11-28 17:21 | Report Abuse

if u use 30mil on yr own business, u probably can open more than 20 clinics (conservative estimation), take more market share than that 3 clinic... simple logic.. totally not worth it

fortunefire

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Posted by fortunefire > 2023-11-28 17:26 | Report Abuse

another question is how long will dc healthcare take to get back 70mil after the acquisition?

Posted by Chang Keit Siong > 2023-11-28 17:27 | Report Abuse

Posted by fortunefire > 2 seconds ago | Report Abuse

another question is how long will dc healthcare take to get back 70mil after the acquisition?

^

Good question..

goody99

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Posted by goody99 > 2023-11-29 08:38 | Report Abuse

投资者用脚投票!遇到这种IPO,需要提防管理层另有意图?【谈股论金 132】
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y3nDQonPu4

Posted by Lee Ying Yee > 2023-11-29 14:56 | Report Abuse

like AT . 30 cond. 1 .esos pp csti capital up to 6.7b but loss all QR . now ???

Birdie

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Posted by Birdie > 2023-11-29 15:36 | Report Abuse

13 clinics. Market cap 370million. Roughly rm28 m per clinic. Just to get 10% returns, the clinic has to earn rm2.8 m per year per clinic. Impossible numbers. SELL

fortunefire

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Posted by fortunefire > 2023-11-30 10:36 | Report Abuse

how much cash reserved left in dc healthcare account? if you know the answer then you know where is the company heading to....

Albukhary

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Posted by Albukhary > 2023-11-30 13:17 | Report Abuse

The fox tail has finally reveal.. Please run for your life.

Posted by SharehlderOppression > 2023-11-30 15:25 | Report Abuse

when company goes public, as shareholders and directors you only entitle for salary, allowance and remuneration, plus bonuses o dividend, this to be earned on monthly or yearly basis

but by buying other company over its core values asset, you can deal backdoor money, lets say extra 10m out of this deal and this money will directly go to his pocket

in this world, no one would like to share his business unless that business can make him richer faster

@SuperPanda said it best

007007

777 posts

Posted by 007007 > 2023-11-30 15:50 | Report Abuse

Not sustainable shareholders value.

cytew

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Posted by cytew > 2023-11-30 16:04 | Report Abuse

大家的 草船 有 借 到 箭 了 吗 ?

fortunefire

1,528 posts

Posted by fortunefire > 2023-11-30 16:46 | Report Abuse

making huge loss and still dare to buy 2 clinics with 70mil.... something is really fishy....

Posted by EatCoconutCanWin > 2023-11-30 21:32 | Report Abuse

Senheng 3.0

Posted by Lee Ying Yee > 2023-11-30 21:39 | Report Abuse

QR loss $0.28 ..small matter ?

jackjason

172 posts

Posted by jackjason > 2023-11-30 23:51 | Report Abuse

管理层的诚信有问题,这类股少碰为妙!

RoyRoy

38 posts

Posted by RoyRoy > 2023-12-01 12:59 | Report Abuse

wah so many negative sentiment, holland ??

Abram66

168 posts

Posted by Abram66 > 2023-12-01 15:23 | Report Abuse

I think it's due to the acquisition of I Bella... However, the acquisition is partially financed through the issuance of shares at 58 cents each, so it's a premium over the current share price. Can say it's a untung for DC healthcare

Trianon

233 posts

Posted by Trianon > 2023-12-01 15:40 | Report Abuse

that acquisition will provide around RM11.4 million profit guarantee to the company for the financial years 2024 and 2025, according to the management

Thealanor

92 posts

Posted by Thealanor > 2023-12-01 20:03 | Report Abuse

no holland, 50% paid in shares(valued at 0.58). Now look at the share price now... if you know, you know

fortunefire

1,528 posts

Posted by fortunefire > 2023-12-02 10:38 | Report Abuse

11.4mil profit guarantee vs 70mil expense for acquisition exercise? DC clinic can't make 11.4mil a year by themselves?

Income

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Posted by Income > 2023-12-02 12:06 | Report Abuse

Toxic

Abram66

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Posted by Abram66 > 2023-12-02 21:39 | Report Abuse

partial are financed through the issuance of shares at premium price for the acquisition by the way

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