Alex ChanBut it looks like they are going milk this company to the ground. Sell to QSR lah
satha44So used to being Bearish...after this volume...can possibly weaken further..Ding better find another business to do....Doing something that he really cant perform....Excuses again..how is it other poultry companies can make a good profit...even with higher cost...
satha44Parking at 4sens...all my stock..Hopefully i can get out like..Forgot90.. He took a few weeks...mine???
satha44Mother share back to 30 million seller.....morning started at 30 million seller....now after trading 65 million...still got 30 million seller....hahahaha..excelent trap..
k6iiSomething is weird, people buy it for keep or goreng? Why the warrant..ppl keep collect.
satha44Frustrated k6ii...4th qtr loss...wipes out 3 qtrs of profit...we wait n wait..nothing happens...other stocks already uptrend..this fella downtrend for 11 years...What do u think is gonna hapoen when this big volume is due....There are people selling in the 10s of millions....Why..why why..
satha44Look at the volume 67 million...poor fellas..gonna get slaughtered...
satha44The thing is with ACP being nett seller...the pressure is always there....this big player must finish selling...only then we can read the game...Just dont understand the selling....NO end to it...
satha44Hahaha...trappedgaogao... u raised our hopes...and shattered it again.... Well...anyway...First year profitable after 10 years...Ding finally did it...just has to improve on figures... Ding and family should celebrate...its a happy time...stock price should jump..We all should be happy...but yet there's a bit of dissapointment... 2nd year already started...mayb they will do better...only Ding knows... Should not be 4sens...its now profitable....too cheap..
sukabrimPlease hold on to this DBE chicken. I thought they were going to announce their result tomorrow at the last day of the month, 28th Feb. Good news is increase revenue of RM29 million as compared to preceding quarter. Incur quarterly loss of RM1m but significantly lower than before. So, overall company is improving and have managed to reduce previous big losses. This was achieved through diversification, entering retail of HARUMi brand. More than 200 Harumi restaurants and kiosks in Perak and Penang and going to add more than 10 in Sabah through Coseni.
This aggressive expansion of Harumi is definitely going to substantially improve the earnings in future quarters. Entry level for this franchise is rather low at RM 3.5k and fast food chicken is popular in Malaysia, even with many players in the market.
Of course comments and reactions from customers will affect Harumi's popularity and market penetration. Their Facebook account seems to be very popular and informative. We see openings of their new outlets - certainly feasts for investors eyes. Pictures of happy customers devouring the delicious Harumis. But too responsive social media could backfire, like in here we know about their first restaurant in Manjung, certainly not a positive tribute.
And unfortunately as raised up by satha44, Harumi retail is competing directly with KFC. So will their annual RM50m contract with KFC be renewed in future years? Without the KFC contract will borrowings for factory expansions and operational expenses be better managed in future quarters?
Is chicken business a sustainable business? Yes.
For now this highly anticipated QR is good news for us the loyal DBE shareholders. The management has really worked hard for the company and investors like us. So we see today upward movement of price and very big volumes for both mother share and DBE-WB warrant. Maybe there are fakes in the queue and left hand to right hand transactions but real operators and syndicates are obviously rushing in. During this open season period of QR releases we see rotational play by sharks on the penny stocks of Bursa. Very fast and furious Touch 'n Go. So now it's DBE's turn. How long and how high for DBE we'll never know - we are at the mercy of the sharks.
As they say every dog has its day, so today is DBE's day. And so will it hopefully be in the few days to come. Other chicken or poultry stocks have taken off. CAB and FARMBES have had their price glory days. CCK is presently quite visible with CCK Fresh Mart. Lay Hong is laying the golden eggs. TPC experienced a slight hiccup but with their focus on health omega eggs is exporting to Taiwan and Korea. Soon Harumi or Gurney chicken will be very visible in Malaysia.
All we know we got the free warrants of DBE-WB. Sell now if you want to lock in profit or compensate for the mother share. Mother DBE is still stuck at 3.5 - 4 sen, rather pathetic. Will the operators push it up to it's previous high of 6 sen or its rightful fair value of 10-15 sen? Then by right its WB should soon reach 4-5 sen. Will WB close today at 2 sen? Yes, dream on as satha44 used to say.
All the best to satha44 and ATARAH, the known big investors of DBE here. And also to the rest of us who faithfully believe in DBE.
BUY DBE. NOW EVERYONE CAN CHICKEN
Alex ChanI remember Comsa farms...Milked to the ground by a man named Ding
sukabrimActually, DBE is doing fine operationally and financially. Maybe there's paper thin profit in chicken business but it is a sustainable business. DBE already dominates the chicken business in the northern states of Perak and Penang. But in the process it's stretching itself too thin. Also trying to be too diversified means that you're not specialised and have no moat. Venturing simultaneously into breeding chicken, broiler chicken, egg production and chicken feed is a bold move. By entering into Harumi retail, DBE is crouching into territory of others. So, in a way DBE offers the cradle to the grave care and service for its chickens. Even afterlife management, the Nirvana Centre for Chicken.
I am hoping that with this QR release the management of DBE will go on a publicity blitz like they did before. Force or bribe the reporters of The Edge, The Star, thesundaily and i3investor to write glowing tributes of DBE and the near future plans. Post selfies of them with the Dato's Dings throwing yee sang while feasting on Harumi wings during the post CNY corporate dinner. Activate and mobilise the spinmeisters. Get Dato' Alex Ding again on BFM radio or The Edge TV. His BFM interview last year was one of the factors that influenced me to enter DBE.
Talking of visibility and publicity I see that the DBE website is informative and attractive. But maybe more could be done, like the Press Room is updated to only April 2016. Do the runaway success of their Facebook page and contract web maintenance lead to the neglect of website update?
Hope to see more positive news for DBE in near future. Share activities like big disposals by their Singapore Ah long ACP and large blocks at buy and sell queues will certainly impact the share price. Also in the past, rumours of top management soliciting commissions for factory construction and unwise spendings affected the share price negatively.
In terms of slogan, only recently when I googled Harumi chicken and entered the website did I find that their tagline is "Now Everyone Can be a Boss". Very colourful design of Harumi concept and catchy slogan indeed, similar to mine. So, great minds think alike?
sukabrimThanks satha44. Sorry for not contributing much earlier to support the price of DBE and make the DBE forum a lively and better place for you and me. Many times I thought of contributing comments especially during weekends but did not. I have high hopes for DBE since the announcements of free warrant issue, KFC contract and Harumi venture. So was quite down when things turn out not to be especially during and after the ex-date of DBE-WB. This forum turned quiet except for the very few diehards like you and ATARAH. Some investors inform us of their selling and leaving, few coming to contribute and many comments were simply not morally uplifting. I was worried my investment might be lost or reduced. However, I only put in a certain percentage of my investment capital and the amount is much less than you and ATARAH put in. Still, cut loss is not my option for this counter. So hope both of you win big or at least recover your investment in DBE.
satha44Thank you k6ii...that article confirms the reasons for the losses in the 4th qtr... Writeoffs of 3.5 million...and 1.5million incurred as a result of new listings....so almost 5 million...Yet DBE made a profit for the year....So Company is doing so much better now... Once investors read through and understand the reasons behind the figures....Buying will come in... In the mean time...Ding must absorb Ah Longs continuous selling..... Tomoŕrow we will have to monitor closely......might spike up....fingers crossed...
k6iiI just wondering where is this figure come..."Sales of Restaurants. ..RM135000" is this all the restaurants? 1st restaurant?
Other kiosk..i believe the sale is drop for last quater. Penang site..I know what is happening...
ATARAHThanks Sukabrim for mentioning our name and i like your post which in sincere
satha44This move into the Fried chicken business.....is the best move...selling raw material( meat) almost at cost for years....pushed DBE into deep abyss...Sold properties to stay alive..But with this new brand...margins are bigger....i'm not a very big player sukabrim...just like any other retailer just hope to be right...then wrong.....Happy Trading guys.. Atleast now the stress on the Report is over....Next we hope for the announcement on the Super Rich Investor...hahaha..
ATARAHMy contribution post. I am happy for those who manage to sell at mother 0.045 and warrant B 0.02 congratulations. First to be sincere in my post i am also a small players ... I did not inherit warrant b because I bought it at 0.015 cents for 628,000 shares. I am mainly a warrants investor seldom hold mother
To recap my post
Why do buy..
1. Food business is never wrong ... especially if you control the supply source. 2. It is a public listed company .. not enough capital just raise it provided top management can sell the future prospects and investor can see and feel it. Proof by facts too. 3. Dato Ding a charismatic leader no issue in front of investors and media. 4. Dato Ding have so information other don't have .... future information .. visionary information He see and vision thing other don't see. Other see 2017 & 2018 hard economy downturn... He see opposite... He invest while other close shop , shrink back , cut staffs cut cost.... He run energetically to open as many Harumi as he can.... He see something other don't. Until I begun to see what he see. So what he see A. Big brother China coming soon ... china big brother of Asean too B. Railway......If Ding know what he is doing .... ask all franchisee open near along the railways....line
C. China investors .... in property ... coming and tourism.... If that happen.... All fast-food outlet will be full....Kfc Mcd..of course Harumi.. Ding has to do it fast because... They are coming soon.... tourist where got time to take 2 hours lunch or breakfast for those in tour. Other Dato Ding and Atarah and Shata will cry when that happen and see tourist all full in KFC MCDONALD. UNCKE BOB.... AND Atarah cry and ask Ding.... Why you never open fast enough in this spot .... Why why.... All fast-food outlet full and tourist still line up...and in school holiday... Malaysian school children got frustrated.... No seat no seat daddy... Why like that one...
satha44Hahahaha..so funny Atarah....as long we can laugh about it...i think we are still alright... Cant agree with all your points lah... This MD....was very young when he took over...Only 28 years old..When the elder Ding passed away..the young man..took over..Highly ambitious....makan all the small fellas...wanted to become the biggest poultry company in PERAK....but fate had a different plan....after 14 years...the young man..now 42 above...is going into a growth phase of his Life...success is surely his....if he believes it....some years ago..when DBE was in a bad state....Ah long came into pic.... With no choice..the deal was signed....Now DBE is stronger...can choose a better deal/investor.. Hopefully a BIG GIANT comes in SOON..... Todays Ding is older n wiser.....Will surely make better decisions...BEST WISHES.....to DBE
ATARAHWah.... Satha..... your post is even better...thank you for the insight... Very soon..one of those Big giant.... maybe Mr D or Mr K or Mr B. Will take over . Cannot fight beautiful Harumi ... marry her... become biggest shareholder .... when Mr who do that ... Mr who Control the supply also ... Good for Mr who fast-food franchise too
ATARAHSorry again Mr MD OR MR K OR UNCLE ALSO CAN LAH ...refers to potential big giant
yangstyle10formsWe have the positive comments and we have the negative comments, It is a reflection of how the Ying & Yang coexist together, A negative comments should not be avoided just because it is unpleasant, Both positive and negative comments should be taken into consideration by the investor, If the comments have element of hope / wishful element, it should be put aside, A mind that is not at peace ( element of hope / wishful ) will not help the investor to make a sound decision.
If downstream ( F&B) not doing well, how is controlling upstream ( raw material ) going to help ?
Not enough capital just raise fund from who? Investors who are staying positive in this forum ? The captain will not get a single cent from a well informed investor. Investor invest to get money from the company, not opposite way.
Charismatic leader ? He is taking almost RM 450k per annum as his salary if you refer to the audited report 2015. Company in dire condition he took RM 0.45 mil annually. Not only captain, got another director taking similar amount annually. He really treating you all as his gods of prosperity. No fund raise again & again to pay his pocket. I think he will be the happiest man to see all the support in this forum except this post.
satha44If u asked me...the whole board should be sacked...useless bumps sitting and being paid..u see todays announcement director sold warrants even he doesnt have faith in his own company... As long Ding doesnt get someone to mop up the shares from the open market...share price cannot go up....Ding Dong here only... ACP ah long useless short term player..puts his leg in all the sick companies...google and see...so many lousy ones..ACP is a shareholder.. Not sure of others but DBE makes money for this Money Lender..
Wow123satha44 , I already told you Ding only take care his own interest rather than company , bcos commission agent actitud lio lor. Only show
Wow123like money games JJTPR same business , hehehehehe
ATARAHToday maybe the will push to mother 0.05 and warrant 0.025 Opportunity to sell ... don't forget opportunity to sell...
Those long term keep
March coming tomorrow ... what we discuss here ..hopefully will be review soon
satha443.5 million impairment of debtors and 1.5 million as cost of issuance of new shares... Thats 5 million....So if Not for this...Does that mean DBE would have announced close to 4 million in profits for the 4th quarter....WOW...thats fantastic.. Can someone else read the report and confirm....or is my MATH wrong... If really can make 4 million per qtr....12 sens easily....
ATARAH3.5 million impairment for debtor does not.mean cannot be collected back it it just impairments One they can slowly correct back
ATARAHOne day can collect back meaning credit extended longer only
k6iiAtarah..recently all warrant kena goreng....i guess dbe warrant also coming...yesterday volume more than mothershare....
satha44Every year also got writeoff...whats the point of doing business with people who cannot pay back..as agreed...Doing chicken business for 30 years still never learn this simple rule... Must be able to judge...others.. What for MD.. what for Board..making lousy decisions...
k6iiI look back the qr report and agak guess the sale from restaurant should be two restaurants sale revenue..if continue next quater..should have double of now...good move...
Penang site..there are new competitor of.Harumi...they are new...after u taste it...Harumi still better..if you are consider Harumi business. You can go ahead...big player help you promote.. How nice if able selling at petrol station or 711...that is my idea...but I am not able go.for it....
Risk RiderFor those already in, please read the Quarterly Report to see any positive things rather than keep listening all comments here.
Who knows you can find something that no one notice & it will make this stock turnover later?
Daniel Yapno worries la, PRIVATE PLACEMENT OF UP TO 43,836,100 NEW ORDINARY SHARES : Price at 1.20 per share, why worry so much? Those bought 1.30 your cost i about 8% more than them only what, those bought below 1.20 somemore no need shake la.
PlsGiveBonusBursa is full with junk company :) They should start reducing all the listed company to improve quality instead of making more new IPO
Risk RiderSTOCKMANMY, YOU MAY HAVE OVERLOOKED, BUT IT'S OK, I REPRODUCED HERE FOR YOUR PLEASURE READING, I FOUND IT INTERESTING, HOPE YOU ENJOY:
Posted by KLCI King > Feb 27, 2017 09:41 PM | Report Abuse If you follows stockmanmy comments, most of times he is like kiki gong kiki song, as long as he is happy, everything he said are dynamic. In fact, he is the only one on earth to know the true meaning of his own created dynamic investment.
I have a not so close friend whose brother is born mentally ill. His brother is 58 now & is staying alone but he like to walk & talk the whole village every day, no one can ever understand what he is talking even though his voice is very loud. Luckily he is classified as unharmful type.
GaRRYtanyear to date EPC total biling 150 mil - Q3 was 94.3mil, Q2 was 48mil (Q2+Q3 =142mil). Only 8 mil billing in Q4 from EPC? Why so such big different? Remark from Q4 report: Decease in revenue mainly due to substantial progressive works carried out are yet to be recognized from EPC Vietnam.
His position of Top 10 Now Crash Down to No. 120!!
This super sorchai skydive without parachute? And no spare parachute?
No wonder so fast falling flying down from 10 position to 120 position!!
No margin of safety? No 30% limit down trading halt?
WOW!! It is TRIPLE LIMIT DOWN
YES! TRIPLE LIMIT DOWN 30% (THREE TIMES DOWN WITHOUT SAFETY NET!)
So Brave Indeed?
Driving Supersonic Car without brake, safety belt or airbag?
NOW MUST CHANGE NAME TO JOHN HOLLAND
SO THE TITLE & CROWN OF HOLLAND KING MUST GO TO JOHN LU
CLAP! CLAP!! CLAP!!!
abangadikdynamic investing.. doesnt neccesary can make money mar.. it is meant to be dynamic.. dynamicly make money also can dynamicly lose money also possible.... The most stupid investing strategy I have heard...and proven how stupid the result is :D
joekitHow bout call it Dynamite Investment? Anytime can blow your head off!
calvintanengPosted by joekit > Feb 27, 2017 11:28 PM | Report Abuse
How bout call it Dynamite Investment? Anytime can blow your head off!
This one really fit StockMummy
StockMummy with her Dynamite "Blow Head Off" Investment?
hewiesterThis dynamite investment is just as as strong as VX .. kills within seconds or minutes when market reopens tmrw. Feel sorry for those who got wiped by VX..
pang72if drop to 1.00--------------> kyy rugi 39,900,000x0.35=13.96mil !!!
IamGoogleThe old man must be still calculating his loss here, thanks for helping him, tonight is just another sleepless night for him.
red_85KYY very rich la..14 million to him just like 20cents to you...he dont care it one, but i think he will cut lost since this quarter report doesn't comply to his golden rule.
BizfunengStockMammy with her Dynamite "Blow Head Off" Investment?
- at least learning and proven today that this investment methodology is hopelessly stupid!!
- unfortunately many retail investors so convinced this methodology introduced by Stockmammy can make money much faster than KC Chong's value investing method. So many i3 forumers today facing misfortunate.So sorry.
-It is not too late to revert and contact KC for his online course that many testified is a proven method to your financial freedom.
- mistakes don't kill you...haha what a joke but burning your hard earned money!!!!
red_85lets guess tmr opening price.. 1.05 my guest..open 1.05 close 1.00
PlsGiveBonusTTB: How to make klci great again if everyone is so bearish about the future :)
Zai ZaiOld tricks management, In order to your enhance PP value, your property make so deficit eventually you can divided into few qtrl. It seen to be discount of not more than 10% to the 5-day VWAMP do not attract your third party investor. PP start on 24(feb),27,28,1(mar),2
lwyy60Truth or not, u just search around stock with RI, believe me, RI can be good to company but bad to investor. Using public fund to pair down debt or raise new project. Usually share price will dilute after RI. Usually price will drop ist and raise near RI date. Long term should be ok if managenent use it on right direction. Dont try to earn on this RI news but long term effect.
Investor 9999Sales for 1H is RM494.4M (2016 1H RM399M). The trade and other debtors at 31 Dec 2016 is RM308.1M ( 30 June 2016 RM273.2 M)
My analysis from 2016 Annual report trade debtors at 30 June 2016 was RM RM223M and other debtprs RM50M.) With a sales of RM712.6 million, the debtor turnover or credit period was 3.76 months or 114 days.
Similary in FY 2015 at 30 June 2016, trade debtors and other debtors amounted to RM 162.6M. The trade debtor at 30 June 2015 was RM144.4M. With a FY 2015 sales of RM636M, the debtors turnover or credit period was 2.72 months or 83 days.
In the Q2 announcement, 6 months sales to 31 Dec 2016 was RM494M. The debtors turnover would be 3.74 months or 113 days.
The Company is dealing with multinational and international trade credit period cannot be that long. something is fishy going on can somebody enlightened me. It looks like another Englotech that went bust in the making of jacking up dummy sales and went bust. Collections of Company is slowing down.
kent98@Investor 9999, how do you get the debtor turnover or credit period? Does not seems to mention in the quarterly financial report. Just curious, and wish to learn.
kent98OK, I saw there is aging reports in 2016 A.N. Report, but I still don't get it how to calculate it to "3.76 months or 114 days". Also, in this current Q2 report, there is no aging report at all, how to get the number to be "3.74 months or 113 day"?
huiyikent98 OK, I saw there is aging reports in 2016 A.N. Report, but I still don't get it how to calculate it to "3.76 months or 114 days". Also, in this current Q2 report, there is no aging report at all, how to get the number to be "3.74 months or 113 day"? ---- debtor days = (account receivable / sale) x 365days = (308184 / 494407) x 365/2 = 113.8 days
inventory days = 47.5 days acc payable days = 66.8 days? working capital days = 113.8 + 47.5 - 66.8 = 94.5 days working capital that required to run the business = 94.5/494407 x 365/2 = 128004 ??? But cash and bank balances = 49642 < 128004 ! that's y need RI to get money???
LukesharewalkerSuspect ballooning of trade debtors and cash flow problems due to client cannot pay maybe due to product not selling well. Had not raise provision for BD to make accounts look good. Red flags
huiyidamm. just add today, after calculate, should sell.
VenFxhaiyo,,, Echicken has juz merely cross their half pass line and planning to climb up the rank. has the results qtr maintained ?
1.any 1 time gain / exceptional item compared to previous yr qtr ? No, Echicken did well indeed .
2.why not give this baby 6-12 mths time to climb up ler ...
3.huiyi, i dont know what is your calculation ? My calculation : $1000 mil revenue x 3.2% net profit ; devide with 211.3 mil share x 10p.e. = $1.51 fair value . Not to mention my Echicken -wc ... $$$$ $$$$ xp
VenFxRating of $1.59 https://online.capitalcube.com/#!/stock/my/malaysia/8907/summary
Still in doubt ?
Btw, if u are contra player, sure mati lor . Look for Moving average 60 D @ $ 0.875 lor :D
VenFxNo secret already Echicken is constrained by the current level of debt ; thats why need your $$$ lor.
77huat77Why you can wait three year to get your keh of your new condo and can't wait for the stock to double up your capital By Cold Eye
VenFxBorrowing paid will make gain for interest saving $500K annually ma, the rest go to cacth more international contract ; whereas u need talents / design / hard facilities / materials cost ...
VenFxI suspect there are pledged share from IB bank sell off to meet someone shareholder to meet their Financial tariff lor,,, once this over Echicken will start expanding its wing lor .
VenFxDont be Chicken out lar ... Echicken will bring U HUAT HUAT HUAT, in mid fire rooster 2017 .
moneySIFUOne thing good i love about Ekovest is the price won't move before good news out. It indicated no insiders buying but in fact someone selling :)
TylerTanShould I top up or just hold current shares? @moneySIFU any comments on the price, whether will stable or will consolidate?
newboytoday buy rate for mother and son is good. If we hold long enough at touch 1.80, maybe some of the big kakis here will be able to get a free unit of ekocheras. hehe...
chris1988hi, im new is this stock market, i just wanna start investing in stocks, my friend told me that this stock have potential, is this the right time to buy in? any suggestion?
moneySIFUHi TylerTan, I don't really know as I am bad in timing the share price. It always go against my thoughts.
chris19881 more things i wanna ask, whats the different with mother share and warrant?
head the differences was warrant has expiry date warrant no dividend thats it? is there anymore difference?
moneySIFUMy advice is to do your own calculation & homeworks, read all articles & news under the headlines as well as past years' quarterly reports & annual reports. After all, make your decision based on the facts & figures made public available.
moneySIFUchris1998, my advice is do google search to find out the definition, these are basic things that does not require too much technical knowledge to understand.
You may visit bursa malaysia official website to know the definition also.
moneySIFUDon't buy warrant or call warrant if you don't know the definition & the relationship with its mother share, it is quite a high risk investment, though it is also high return if doing it right.
TylerTanWhat's your thoughts on current price? Fair or undervalue ?
moneySIFUHi TylerTan. Price is a reflection of views from a large group of people, everyone act according to the best of his situation & money.
Some think it is overvalued so they sell & some may think it is undervalued so they buy or hold. I am still holding it, so it is long term potential to make it good hold for me :)
hissyu2DUKE highway, a goose that lays GOLD eggs... LOL~~
hissyu2skyjet Base on latest result, forward PE for Ekovest is 14.5. Is overvalue with current price.
How "Forward" you are talking about? until next month? next year or next 5 years? LOL ...
kenari82Overvalue only on paper...technical chart still bullish...buy more gain more..
skyjet@hissyu2, base on 41 Mils for 4 quarters. Now forward PE is >14.5 with current price
azlan88The similarity of DUKE and LDP is both are intercity highways, which means high volume of vehicle passing by everyday. With the increment of toll rates and huge amount of vehicles passing by everyday, LITRAK (concessionaire for LDP) earns more than 50% NET PROFIT from REVENUE!!! Imagine the potential of DUKE Phase 2, 2A once all are completed and connected!!
Peter PanProbably massive round of selling starting tomorrow!
greatfulbelieve the price will be fluctuate at this range until 20MA line come to meet, only will choong. Should be in two weeks time. Now is good time to collect? No idea.
KLCI KingStar8888, run? Run where? To Jaks or Rgb?
nikicheongEkovest is probably overvalued at the moment and cutback is very likely. Of course if you are a long term investor just stay put, top up when the price falls. Long term this company will grow well and has great management. As for me I missed my boat at 2.38 at the start of the year, now I will wait till it gets to 0.98 before I buy.
SJSOON@nikicheong, you are so funny. On what basis you say it is overvalued and it may drop back to 0.98? Hahahaha.
Wei Li ChenGood morning all sifus/bros, as i have bought ekovest before the exdate, and today i log in the quantity of share is still the same and i thought yesterdaywas the entitlement date and should be adjusted today. can anyone please give me advice? thank you
Warrenton65Niki u r so clever maybe u will be the next Warren Buffett
moneySIFUWe have already one famous malaysia version WB, but think the number will be more :)
briantc14frankly speaking... TP RM5 in 2 years still consider a conservative TP.
damonteeLook at their rsi. It's slightly overbought. If you are buying it now. I believe it's slightly overprice
woosytankasi kchia 2000 likes. And briantc14, yesyesyes! RM 5 is a conservative TP. really sai lang d.
woosytanvery body rush in to buy because they know this stock has very high TP. from 1.6/1.7/1.8 til now 2.3x. you can see the buying interest. so, buying now still consider very very cheap. but still up to you all, you decide!!
YumingI ard Sai Lang my 40% of my fund to this stock..... You could imagine how keat this stock.....
briantc14JHM business is not same with D&O... D&O is LED manufacturing. JHM is use LED to do sub-assembly. But, from the D&O message... there is very very strong positive hints to JHM's coming result. 1) Q4FY16 vs Q4FY15 - Propelled by a 48% growth in Automotive Segment 2) Q4FY16 vs Q3FY16 - The Automotive Segment sales revenue registered a 36% increase to a record level of RM121 million. 3) Prospect - Automotive industry is expected to continue to gain traction amongst global automotive players.
briantc14I guess Japan market has a high change to be happened in short term because company already has the right resource to fight for it. For Europe, I read from old article news mentioned there was potential customer visited the plant in 1-2yrs back (if not mistaken), hope will able to see some positive feedback in near term too. Just my personal prediction.
Jane1111After the q result out, will the price drop?
OlgaOlga JHM !! Huhu... din miss the last train ! 20/02/2017 15:43
weiyetan1JHM looks good... but don't over chase at critical moment. Let's wait to see the result first. I'm willing to pay higher price to top up if result is good and share price has stable down. Feeling so excited in waiting the Feb result.
RylsThere is a situation that continue to climb for months and never look back ..
anonboyAfter coming QR is released, the price may drop. But you can buy the stock on dips. If the stock price drops, it's a bargain sales.
johortigerBuffett: Stocks are ‘virtually certain’ to rise in years ahead ‘Miraculous’ U.S. economy remains the engine, says Berkshire chief http://www.marketwatch.com/story/buffett-stocks-are-virtually-certain-to-rise-in-years-ahead-2017-02-25
As long as the US economy is good, JHM can make a substantial profit.
abangadikno hengtai I dont have JHM.. bcsz I have IQ at the runup.. It was a wrong pick of horse but both good horse, My main horse is still MFCB because a lot ppl didnt promote it, I prefer lowkey... Thanks
johortigerI have so many promising stocks besides JHM, one of which is Lay Hong.
HippoDont be surprise if close red today. It happened to JHM previously. Short term and intraday I cant beat you. But medium term laughing all the way.
investor8888i think is this friday or next monday come out Q report
darrenliewGOOD 3Q PROFIT WILL BE RELEASED SOON. SEQUENTIAL QUARTERLY PROFIT UPTREND ALREADY SEEN.
REVENUE NET PROFIT ======================= 1Q 47.5M 4.0M
2Q 70.0M 6.2M
3Q (EXPECTED TO BE GOOD/HIGHER)
3Q REVENUE AND PROFIT WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE BASED ON ITS UNBILLED SALES OF OVER RM1 BILLION (AS SALES REVENUES ARE PROGRESSIVELY RECEIVED AND RECOGNISED). ITS STAR RESIDENCES TOWER 1 AND TOWER 2 WERE CONFIRMED SOLD 95% AND 70% PER ITS 2Q RESULTS REPORTS (AS AT 30/9/16) (VERY HIGH PROFIT MARGIN PROJECT DUE TO ITS CHEAP LAND COST OF RM500 PSF AND SOLD AT RM1800 PSF). ITS OTHER PROJECTS' SALES ARE ALSO QUITE GOOD DUE TO PRIME LOCATIONS.
nemesisToday T+3 selling is Over...Tomorrow will begin a fresh buying of Symlife tat will take it to new high above 0.80...
CharlesTThu is t+3 for Mon's 4m trades...c hows the selling pressure like
CharlesTMy 2 cents forecast on their sales n in 2017.
Say if sales is around RM300M- RM350M in 2017 (back by unbilled sales of Rm1B+), then their sales in Q3 n Q4 will be around RM180M-RM230M (Q1+Q2 is ard RM117M)
Assuming their sales in Q3 is ard RM80M and net profit margin of 10%-15%, net profit will be ard RM8M to RM12M then EPS will be ard RM0.027 to RM0.04.
Ya HooHi CharlesT, I think the EPS per quarter will be higher than RM0.04 once the star residences and TWY was start major contribute. Especially high margin on star residences project due to low land cost. Timing of this contribution is very important now which will lead the shares going up.
darrenliewGOOD/HIGHER RESULTS/PROFITS FOR 3Q AND 4Q FYE 31/3/17 EXPECTED.
ITS 6 MONTHS NET PROFITS AT RM10.2M HAD ALREADY EQUALLED THE WHOLE OF LAST 12 MONTHS NET PROFITS ALSO AT RM10.2M.
LIKELY THIS CURRENT YEAR'S FULL YEAR'S NET PROFIT CAN DOUBLE OR EVEN EXCEEDS THAT OF LAST YEAR'S. VERY COMMENDABLE BUSINESS PERFORMANCE
ITS PAID UP CAPITAL BASE IS STILL SMALL WITH ONLY 310 MILLION SHARES OF RM1 EACH. HENCE LOTS OF ROOM TO GROW. ITS NTA IS VERY STRONG AT RM2.09 BACKING PER SHARE.
darrenliewI MEAN CURRENT YEAR'S TOTAL NET PROFITS CAN AT LEAST DOUBLE THAT OF LAST YEARS.
kudamudaeh... have to wait patiently for Qtr report... unlikely today?
CharlesTYa Hoo, more conservative to use 10-15% net profit margin i/o 20%, not all their projects could have such high net profit margin...
nemesisNext week another great rally of Symlife...
kancs3118Quarterly results have not yet been released ....mmm...maybe they have got something to hide ??
darrenliewNEMESIS. I SHARE THE SAME VIEW AS YOU. SYMLIFE SHARE PRICE WILL SURGE UPNEXT WEEK BCOS:- THE UPTRENDS IN BOTH ITS REVENUES AND NET PROFITS ARE EVIDENT IN ITS 1Q & 2Q RESULTS. SUPPORTED BY UNBILLED SALES OF >RM 1 BILLIONS AS THESE BECAME BILLED/RECEIVED AND RECOGNISED IN ITS ACCOUNTS. HENCE BASED ON ITS HUGE UNBILLED SALES VALUE (WILL HAVE INCREASED FURTHER BY NOW SINCE ITS 2Q CLOSING AS AT 30/9/16) ITS 3Q REVENUES/PROFITS WILL ALSO REGISTER INCREASES WHEN ANNOUNCED LATEST BY TUESDAY 28TH FEB.
nemesisThe clock is ticking to the final countdown....Starting next week u will never see Symlife below 0.80 again...I m serious!
darrenliew2015 PAID CASH DIVIDEND OF 5 SEN. 2016 PAID 2 SEN IN LINE WITH REDUCED PROFITS. 2017'S PROFITS WILL BE VERY STRONG WITH EACH QUARTERLY PROFITS REGISTERING GOOD GROWTH: 1Q +4.OM 2Q +6.2M 3Q +10.0M ---------- 9M +20.2M (ALREADY DOUBLED THAT OF THE WHOLE YEARS PROFIT FOR 2016) =================================================================== ESTIMATED 4Q PROFIT +15M
TOTAL EST 2017 PROFITS 35M (EPS 11.3 SEN)
GOOD PROSPECTS FOR ITS DIVIDEND INCREASING BACK UP TO AT LEAST 5 SEN FOR 2017 (HIGH DIVIDEND YIELD OF 6.6% )
THE ABOVE PLUS MORE POSITIVE NEWS ON ITS GOOD SALES OF ITS STAR RESIDENCES OPPOSITE PETRONAS TWIN TOWERS AND ITS SG LONG LANDBANK CAN SUPPORT ITS SHARE PRICE UP
Hungercontra players maybe.dont need to panic la lol
nickyResult must b under expectation .... like hibiciuos
Hungerbased on what evidance u say result under expectation?if wana talk cock sing song please go back to ur hibiscus counter.dun go spew poison to other ppl without any proper news
nickywow... only want to hear good comments ? Just like an ostrich... ha....if really can go up then whatever ppl say also wil up.. u piss off
Hungerexcuse me,u just came in to spread rumours?i ask again,under what evidance you say the result under expectation?i am still waiting for your answer.
ppl like you only cause investor to sell off and lost their chance of earning.poisonous guy
BizfunengDun worry.....those die hard holder like me not easily shaken. Why upset so quick. Haha.....if there is not up and down there is no live in it.PMetal is still very lively.
Edwardong53Agreed with Hunger that it is very bad to simply open your mouth unless you have some relevant and concrete info to shared with others....otherwise better don't cause unnecessary worries for others.
Hungerthat si lang kan punya nick minta kena marah only.if concrete evidence this counter no good i dun mind,sama sama lari ma.but this 1 tak tentu pasal just come in simply talk cock.sure i marah..
forum is not a place for ppl like him to spread rumors for personal gain.maybe he want buy cheap price
Nigel Low131 mil profit. http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5350441
Winwin98EX-date 10 Mar 2017 Entitlement date 14 Mar 2017 Entitlement time 05:00 PM Entitlement subject Interim Dividend Entitlement description Fourth interim single tier dividend of 1.5 sen per share for the financial year ended 31 December 2016
HungerThats faster than expected.now where is the idiot nicky that say profit drop?
telusdansuci@ Hunger, do you still remember last December, 2016 got one " Mat Salleh " said Pmetal will be going down to Rm 1.30 by using mathematics calculation ? Totally until now no comment already in this Pmetal's forum . Last week my target price Rm 2.50 did not achieve . Anyway by this week i will increased its from Rm 2.50 to Rm 3.00 ? Pmetal can make it . Press Metal tetap boleh minggu ini .
happy123Wonder why so few analysts or broking house cover this counter?
As we know the 5 Yr EPS avg = 27.69 ROE of 5 Yr = 16.76 Growth rate is 22.22 in this 5 Year, all is going so well.
if we look at long term debt is only 4.44 and dividen yield for 5 years is 5.17
Just a sharing, not intention to suggest sell or buy :)
mamatedediversification to oversea is good tho.. looking at the fact tat Saudi will boom when oil price up..
leelc70compare to peer, old town, super, pwroot prove of consistancy in its business growth and dividend policy. Price valuation also better.
xanaviseems like the agreement of stake acquisition for UAE plant going to sign soon as fews announcement made...pending document only...great...i like those business with capability to expand to overseas...
mamatedethere will be private placement to raise fund for this acquisition tho, expect price to be depress for a while
leelc70one of the kenanga top pick as potential small-mid cap counter
But look at the prospect..... Take note of the words Double Digit, and Profitability (not just sales).
With the additional capacity, the Group is optimistic to continue its double digit growth trend in sales volume and profitability........ Barring any unforeseen circumstances, the Group is confident of its continuous growth and consistent contributions from all its business units.
abangadikhehehe Up_Down is always very good and straight to the point with his analyst unlike those Golden rules/ dynamic kok.
YiStockIf not mistaken, Tguan policy for calculating impairment loss of receivable is based on 60 days after due. Any sum due from customers if not collected then will fall into impairment loss.
Having said that, this RM 3.37 mil is more an accounting policy. After the sum is collected, it will then added back under "Reversal of impairment loss on receivables" and add back to the Profit in future.
If certain criteria is not able to met after the impairment policy, it will then only consider physical loss and categorized under Bad Debt.
I will double confirmed this policy again in next article.
Latest result, to me, still a historical high one, if this exceptional item is added back.
Posted by Up_down > Feb 27, 2017 08:36 PM | Report Abuse
Impairment loss on Receivable RM 3.374 million is the main culprit preventing Tguan from achieving another new records of PAT. Tguan business growth remains intact except the impairment.
Collin SooPrice up or drop is depend on market demand. Let's see tomorrow!
HarrysellyoubuyHarry calling everyone to keep this stock after he hold one year without any return!.... guys what to do?!
Newbie7229Any clarification on the increase of tax expenses?
MataSejukHarry keep you sell?haha...maybe he will out first tmr
michaelwongMinimal impairment loss on receivables of RM 3.374 millions wouldn't have much impact on Tguan overall yearly financial status. Still paying 6cents dividend with additional productions on line to boost up its future revenues . If dipping below 4.50 l still preferred to collect. Let's see how it reacted
excelyouWell say YiStock, accounting policy always be prudence.
Jeff LeeFor the financial year ended 31 December 2016, the Group continued to achieve a double digits growth both in its sales quantities and profit before tax for both of its plastic and food and beverages divisions. The group's recently installed nano layer stretch film line is currently running at optimum capacity. It is taking delivery of the second nano layer line in the second half of the year to cope with increase sales. It has also just completed the commissioning of its 7th PVC food wrap line in February 2017. Sales has been robust and the 8th PVC food wrap line will arrive in the third quarter of 2017. It is also planning to install another 5-layer blown film line within the year. With the additional capacity, the Group is optimistic to continue its double digit growth trend in sales volume and profitability. It is also opportune to take advantage of the current favourable USD rates by focusing more effort on export sales.
Barring any unforeseen circumstances, the Group is confident of its continuous growth and consistent contributions from all its business units.
Jeff Leei seldom see management will comment "CONFIDENT" in continuous growth....
George888Yes~ very seldom u see company so confident about its future growth prospect by increasing capacity with 7th and 8th PVC lines, nano-tech line in Q2, and additional blown film line within the year. :)
chl1989why director selling 40% of their stakes? wth?
Eruditetoday just flushing out contra players. come end of the week or next week i quite sure it will move towards Rm7
Cindy LingAgree, I guess flush away many d...Seem d price floating in stable
invest_101To truly benefit from this stock would be to hold longer term hoping that it will mature into the next PetDag, supported by increasing dividend payouts. In the meantime just support and patronise the Petron brand/stations and report any positive and negative observations from your visits for ongoin discussion. Monitoring daily is tiring and not constructive. Timing in buying is not important when a stock performs. Take PetDag as an example, as it was trading below RM10 at the turn of the century and with current price at RM24.50, I don't think one would complain much if they bought at RM9.00 or RM9.50 or even RM11.00. Your only complain would be if you acted or bought the exposure you wanted. Good luck.
逍遥子@invest_101, what a coincident this morning I was looking at PetDag historical data, what u mentioned is absolutely right. As at 2006 Petdag was trading at range of $4+ to $5 with a PE of around 9 & dividend yield of 3+% ! Once their dividend yield start to pick up, their PE was adjusted to 12, from there onwards the PE was gradually upgrade to 20+
Good company need times to unlock their value, and most of the times the process will take longer than we expected.
pitbullThis petronm forum suddenly appear many kaki....=.="
Jayluckily could collect some when pressed down this morning. it's a good stock which is getting better
EruditeI am more comforted to know that PetronM has more room to go once contra kakis are kicked out. So no issue to hold.
LowProfileIMHO, i totally agreed with comments from invest_101 and Xiao Yao Zhi. But just on a side note, a gentle reminder that petromn is not the same like petdag, as we all knew that petronm involved refinery operation as well but not for petdag, and with petdag is the biggest petrol brand in malaysia, thus, petdag earning is relatively "predictable" and "stable" if compared with petronm (refinery factor), hence also be one of the reasons for petdag share price to continue to up and steady in the past years... uncertainties are still remain a concern for petronm in future, sales volume wise for petronm should be quite steady and increasing slowly as seen confidence slowly build up in the customers, much volatility concerns should be still remain with global crude oil price and on refinery margin, though with the latest and limited information we have now, at least we somehow can roughly know coming q "should be" able to maintain the same or better...
my 2 cents....
Equityengineerdividend up by 2 cents , so that is positive , next get rid of th debt . It will yield to better dividend ... more investors will log in ..
GoodstockNext, some stockbroking houses or business news units are soon to recommend "BUY" call to their clients or readers. Just sit tight and watch the show
逍遥子Ya, Petdag earning is more stable & predictable in a way compare to Petronm, that is why Petronm is still trading with PE 7, where as Petdag on 20+
probabilityif you look at on that angle... PBT of Petdag is 335M for a Revenue of 6B PBT of Petron is 158M for a Revenue of 2.3B
Does that means 85% of the PBT in PetronM contributed by the Petrol Stations...and only 15% by the Refinery?
Then...does that mean it would be very reasonable to assume the sustainability of current PBT of Petron?
probabilityshould use the Gross Profit and determine...
LowProfile@probability, i do not have the specific knowledge/information that could specifically tell the contribution between refinery and petrol station (retail & commercial products). Based on the limited information i have, it seems like petronm do not list it out that details about the contribution part. Due to this, personally i cant confirm and confidence with the sustainability of petron PBT. But few positive things for sure which are: 1) stable crude oil price as of now (usd54-56), with opec intention (actions taken gradually) to get the oil price stable which is good for petronm. 2) petronm debt reducing in a very promising way which is a very bright and positive side for the company itself in future. 3) confidence in petronm is growing healthy as we can seen from its sales volume, be it in retail and commercial area... things like global crude oil and refinery margin it seems like petronm couldnt do much about it but if refer to internally the company itself personally i think they are doing great so far, well at least in a right and promising direction...
Jayat the very least cashflow is still great despite the earnings volatility
bluelightGreat more people knowing petron is good company
Whey WheyGame over for those speculate in censof that dream it was a dnex! Many buy in to censof hoping it will announce fantastic QR like dnex! Now proven dnex is dnex, luckily i dont chase high into censof when it shoot up last week...for those already lock in profit in censof congrat! But for those still holding censof with high price good luck tmr
Whey WheyAs for dnex finally the price correction is happening which is very healthy thing so dnex can move higher!^^
greatfulLOL, fasten belt because going to drop from sky? or up like rocket? LOL. Both also need to fasten belt.
jontfjboth also good news, if drop from sky I going to grab some more, if up like rocket then huat ah!
greatfuli go through the buy sell today, not so good like someone said strong buy. i might be wrong. anyway, i love to see so fast trading counter but dare not to play after contra once that day with profit. My lesson learned told me after contra gain, never go back to contra within 2 months. so i follow my rule. Contra vivo, dnex, jaks and time to hold on already for three of them.
chinaik82good timing for invest - but trade as own idea...
nekosanTrump will speak to Congress tomorrow. Prepare for sell down if investor don't like what he said
ritz78I will only top up if price go down to 38¢ or below. Happy holding what I already have in dnex wd for now. For wd, average down if price go below 12¢. I wont cut loss coz this is a great prospect co. Will average down at correct price. Be cautious not to collect at high price.
lee77My enter price for mother is 0.31 and wD is 0.085.. I dun want to sell. Because this is good counter.
Whey WheyU all going to be reward great if dnex MD really can deliver what have they promise which is double in revenue and more than double the profit^^ 2017 will be a harvest year for dnex investors!
Chee WengSince Censof's qr result has been released,which is not so good, Dnex gonna rise back tomorrow(most probably) .Good luck everyone!
Whey WheyDont contra just buy and hold at least 100% return in one year if dnex can keep deliver good result.... this counter even give dividen for god sack haha
Whey WheyExpecting price correction will continue tmr but well who know, no one can predict the future it all depends on mr market to decide... As long as the FA of the company didnt change or suddenly market crashed... i wont sell this baby before it fully value yet... in short term the price might go up and down but eventually the market need to unlock the real value what dnex worth..
Type Announcement Subject OTHERS Description IFCA MSC BERHAD ("IFCA " OR "THE COMPANY") - PROPOSED FINAL DIVIDEND The Board of Directors of IFCA had resolved to recommend a single-tier final dividend of 0.5 sen per share for the financial year ended 31 December 2016, subject to the Shareholders' approval at the forthcoming Nineteenth Annual General Meeting of the Company.
The date of entitlement and date of payment in respect of the aforesaid proposed final dividend will be determined and announced in due course.
This announcement is dated 27 February 2017.
vinothQuarter results out. Company losing money again.
vinothWhy you all keep saying this company so good, but in end every quarter also making losses.
kserwell, on positive side, Q revenue the highest since 2007. To be fair, this Q3 result before ace credit, mr chang etc came, which they bought shares via DBT at around 0.17-0.20/share at end of Sept. so no worries
mh87Loss is getting lower and Revenue is getting higher.. Why need to worry.. I strongly believe it will gains profit in next Q.. 2017 is the boom for connect.. Trade on your own risk..
Angielim9955base on CONNECT 康乐康迪（2）今年什么科技字眼最吸睛？最杀的硬件革命一统苹果与非苹阵营 tomorrow will good all the beszt
ivan951150 wa , back to 0.20 then 0.30 then 0.40 0.0 very strong very strong very strong
chongmengWeng Shu Mei no volume how to break 0.155 sleeping counter..
zaikalau kasi makan satu biji pill biru vigra ...ini konet bila bila pun boleh bangun.....
zaiAppasia dulu baru 15 ada nazifuddin razak kat dalam sekarang pun sudah jadi 39
zaichongmeng aku memang ada satu batang konet,Saham connect aku belum beli ...Tapi kamu ciakap sleeping counter ,Aku nampak fuzi razak dan najib razak dua batang sulah masuk kat dalam tidur,Sekarang aku pun sulah keliru ...
keuinCONNECT had on 13 January 2017 invested an additional 727,388 ordinary shares in the share capital of its wholly-owned subsidiary Rapid Conn (S) Pte. Ltd. Upon completion of the Investment, the issued share capital of RCS shall increase from 4,311,525 ordinary shares to 5,038,913 ordinary shares. RCS shall remain as a wholly-owned subsidiary of CONNECT.
keuinCONNECT had on 13 January 2017 invested an additional 727,388 ordinary shares in the share capital of its wholly-owned subsidiary Rapid Conn (S) Pte. Ltd. Upon completion of the Investment, the issued share capital of RCS shall increase from 4,311,525 ordinary shares to 5,038,913 ordinary shares. RCS shall remain as a wholly-owned subsidiary of CONNECT.
Birdbirdtksw, you want everyone to sell Gadang son so that you can collect is it? Are you working for any syndicate?
HungerDun think he can do that lol.market is a free place ppl buy and sell.unless hes a very popular investor and he got huge sum of money like millions.and even if he have that amount..i dun think he will be that dump to throw all the money in one share
BirdbirdHunger, syndicates also got margin financing from broker. It'll be a boring world without them.Even hedge funds also can be penggoreng. LOL!
tkswsell Gadang son ya... Kok Onn already show you how to buy sell Gadang
tkswbirdbird sifu, you buy gadang son la... buy more,
tkswas for others, I already told you, you no sell Gadang son, Gadang son wont go up.
tkswif you buy, it will never go up too much. cos why should penggoreng goreng if they dun have Gadang son? you bot all already ma... oni when penggoreng got a lot of Gadang son than they have to goreng to sell it. now is a dangerous time to buy Gadang son, cos penggoreng sell it, they took all the profit and retailers wont be able to pull up the price.
tkswthat is the reasons why most of the time the share price shoot up after you sell, and fell if you buy. espeacially when the price is high. and Gadang son is simply high...Gadang need to be 152 to justify 46sen... you think Gadang can reach 152 or not? and that is only justify... even Kok Onn think difficult...
tkswsell gadang son, and it will go up, that's the paradox
tkswGadang son max up to 48sen cos Kok Onn sell at this price.. if you are the penggoreng, you wanna pay more,,, millions of funds is needed just to take kok onn bullets... other major shareholders leh?
HungerTksw.interesting.am curious how to do the calculatiom to justify 46sen=152 for gadang.any formula?
HungerAh i found out how to calculate d.tksw is right
HungerTksw ,means to say warrant son must always be lower than mother share?if it is slighty higher means the mother share got higher chance of going up?
Sosmarttksw, don't mislead people here. Talk wisely otherwise people will treat you like sostupid. Smart people won't follow you and only sostupid will do.
tkswSosmart sifu, where I misled ppl? Gadang son is risky at the present price and price action? no meh?
tkswhunger sifu, I am sure you know theorectically, son should follow mother ma. mother move 20 sen, son follow 20 sen, son will gain more than mother in term of %age as its cost is much lower. that's why ppl still can pay some premium for higher return. but in Gadang case, KYY and a few sifu here said Gadang no hope liao and they are influential, so for the price of 46 sen, it is very risky. What if the penggoreng just dump it and never look back? they past the risk to the buyers and buying mother for less risk. selling 46 sen, they need to fork out 64 sen to buy mother shares... and they can put their money to goreng mother shares only, after all they can goreng mother shares up to 140 then only buy back Gadang son. cos if they dun buy the son, the son can hardly go up...
tkswGadamg son premium is just too high at the moment, especially when it stop moving north together with its mother
tkswwe as retailers, dun have the privy of info like the penggoreng, why take higher risk for higher return? buying gadang son even at the rational price is consider higher risk already, 40% premium actully to me it's more than 100% --- if warrant expired next Monday, completely burn la...
tkswlast time, you stil can get the share cert/warrant paper and used it to do maths calculation, or as toilet paper, now you dun even have a piece of paper...
tkswthis Gadang son, you can only let the penggoreng earn.... if they are really collecting your shares, no other option but only to fry up to get ppl chase... you buy the mother, more chances to gain, as to fry son, mother got to go up, else difficult to up... their cost is increasing cos need to pay GST, kakaka
tkswso if you wanna mother up, give them the son they want...
tkswit the son is not what they wanted now.. can you imagine who is selling the son now? you not takut meh?
tksweven kok onn is selling Gadang son, ma ma mia...
tkswsell gadang son wont bring you to hollan ma. buy gadang son may be will get free ticket to hollan...
tkswsell Gadang son ya... and it may be going up after you sell.
tkswif not, any time KYY will jump out call you stupid losers....
tkswbuy gadang already stupid losers, buy Gadang son is super stupid losers, and buy Gadang son at 48 sen,,, ultra stupid losers... dun let KYY call you that, kakaka
tkswGadang supporter dun scold me ya... I no tok bad Gadang at all, may be gadang will up to prove me wrong, that way I actually help gadang up...
HungerLogical.no one would pay more for son if they wana convert to mother share end of the day.only question is...will mother share catch up to be in par with son gadang?if itd true...a lot of share also face similar situation like telekom malaysia
lkokyrecent TanSri Kok onn purchase of Gadang of 140000 firstname.lastname@example.org, realisticly wont impact the share value. But it serves a clear signal to syndicate, it time for for mother to go up. especially he is also selling the son aggressively.
HungerU guys use what software that can monitor who purchase share?
tkswKok Onn sold Gdang son and buy Gadang. U think penggoreng dare to go against him?
HungerTksw sifu.i did some research and comparison.dnex share is more or less the same as gadang .but dnex shoot up a lot...
HungerDnex warramt after convert 0.54.current dnex share is 0.41
SharehlderOppressionCurrent quarter's cost of sales higher than revenue. And not too long one of their big client set up their own factory in Cambodia. 200 staff laid off and yet Mr Loh claims growth remains intact. How so? Via economies of scale from bigger production capacity? No analyst report under coverage on Tekseng to verify their claims. In my opinion, newspaper reporters are not qualified to interview them, as they don't pose enough challenging questions. Get Kok Beng/Kok Cheng to come on BFM for an interview.
lavenderongJust received this news - UOBKH Tek Seng Holdings (TEKS MK) SELL (Downgraded) Price/Target: RM0.74/RM0.62 Mkt Cap: US$58m 3-mth avg Vol: US$0.9m 52-week hi/lo: RM1.43 /RM0.65
4Q16: Missed Expectation; Downgrade To SELL
Tek Seng turned loss-making in 4Q16, dragged by the solar segment and the PVC segment which disappointed as well. We expect the PVC segment to recover in 1Q17 but earnings visibility remains uncertain for the solar segment, judging from the dynamics in the global solar industry. Downgrade to SELL. Target price: RM0.62.
BezaWhen its business is good , then they ask you to buy or outperform. These analysts have no sound proof record of earning.
BezaImagine if you buy now at this price and 1st Q result is good, surely your investment bear fruit. The lower the better. Afterall M&A can take place as Tekseng is the only solar panel manufacturer in Malaysia, i guess, listed in Bursa.
LukesharewalkerAll divisions losing money...cash left 6 million.inventory at high level.Don't look very optimistic
mamatedeHoseh, fake rebound.. a lot people trap like this woh..
BezaThen why number of buyers are more than sellers now? Are you smarter than all of them?
BezaMalaysian gov is promoting solar energy since this year. The pros is here.
Stock2017A lot of buyers at 0.655, 0.65 and 0.646 compared with sellers but the price did not move. This means what .............. becareful guys
ezobearsolar is commodity .. just buy from spot market, no need to buy from TekSeng directly ....
BezaMany expected it down to 50 cents or less today but it did not ? why?
LukesharewalkerMaybe syndicate also trapped. Remember recent upsurge? But its a downtrend...run
Nigel LowWith price of solar module & panel declining steadily, better sit this one out. https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2016/12/07/what-to-expect-from-the-solar-industry-in-2017/#24eab5413745
hklchengi think after lunch wil go out somemore before continue drop
yfchonghey need to reaudit again. im possi ble crazy figures
Rahzachiongster1234 gap up limit up. huat ah 27/02/2017 20:40
Agree tommorow sure huatttt ah
Risk RiderWake up, don't dream lah, the profit is largely from non cash gain of fair value adjustment, read below:
the increase in gain of approximately RM112.7 million from the fair value adjustment of investment properties.
Current quarter = 166,852 less 112,721 = RM54,131,000
Compared to last year same quarter, profit was RM63,666,000
sosfinanceFYE16 is RM203m (exclude fair value adjustment of RM112m). MCap today is RM1.172b. Historical PE is 5.8x. Have to see prospects & go into details before can conclude the potential, if any.
enid888Fair value adjustment is also profit to the company. That means the company has property or properties that worth more than the value accounted for in the book. The adjustment is definitely good especially to a property company like KSL.
sosfinanceTaking out fair value adjustment, FYE16 vs FYE15 is RM205m vs RM210m. So, results is flattish. Not too bad with this type of environment. The more critical questions is going forward on the success of KSL Mall & township in Klang with GDV of RM10b. This is the make or break for KSL.
IamGoogleGuess the result is reasonably good if less out fair value adjustment.
Dolly_Chaigoh, u have a point here... there is no guarantee that Prlexus can enjoy the growth Nike/Under-Armour is having, as there are also other suppliers such as Magni etc... but if what the management revealed is true, they are getting increasing demands from Nike and Under-Armour and urge from these customers to expand their capacity... this is why Prlexus is expanding - to cope with the increasing demand (as requested by these customers).
Dolly_Chaiunless the management is lying to us.. than that is a different story... so now it is to examine if Prlexus is a transparent and honest company with high integrity... we can tell from their previous past records... read back their annual reports/quarterly reports to check
Dolly_Chainoah.. in 2016 annual report, under the chairman's statements of the future prospect, it is stated that the company expects to continue to grow.. i think this is something positive...
red_85bad report, all retailer already stay away..still in downtrend.. not easy to climb up in such bad sentimental market. I think you guys need to stuck in here for sometime..
noahretailer staying away is not necessarily a bad sign. most retailers is those that buy high and sell low.
do you think retailer have the force to drive price in any direction?
and if you are a syndicate, before you push the price of any company, you would wish there having lots of or less retailers in it?
anyway, PRLEXUS is not suitable short term play due to uncertainties in US policy and the capex requirement for initial expansion. Hold if for min 1 year to bear the fruits.
Dolly_Chaiagree with noah.. i bought into it for its future growth (of course, its current fundamentals must be good)... my only concern is the large number of warrants...
red_85yea, short term not good yet..tat why i rather wait first..keep money in the bank first..i rather buy late than stuck earlier..
Dolly_Chaired_85, i did the same mistake last time.. keep waiting and the price keeps going up and ended up never get to buy at good price anymore... think this way.. when ppl are not interested to buy yet, you have to start collecting... coz when ppl started to buy, it is no longer cheap
Dolly_ChaiColdEye said a good share is worth to keep 2-3 years.. why not?
noahThere's a lot of retailers that like to chase high instead of accumulating share at bottom. This single factor had coz more than 90% of retailer making a loss. Overcome this and it would increase your stake of outperform the benchmark.
But of course buy on weakness does not apply to those shares that drop a lot due to deteriorating fundamental like tekseng.
dompeileeSecured the latest dividend...and now it's HIGHER than my entry point of 1.38 :D
Dolly_ChaiJenas... check the price today... dun worry, Prlexus is a value share for investment... it has great ROIC, EY and FCFY... just dividend not so good... and i dun like the huge number of warrant too.. else, it is almost close to perfect...
R40sJenas, dropped 2 sen on a week ending day with only 34 lots traded, no need to worry at all.
Base on Dolly's calculated intrinsic value at Rm2.53, give it a 20% discount due to it's small share base and relatively low liquidity of stocks traded, the fair price should still be above Rm2 or higher after the new factories are completed in Q3-Q4 this year.
SuperLaberJenas, today is not dividend ex-date, it's the date company paying out dividend, the price won't dropped/adjusted, btw cheers for the dividend!! Hope more to come :)
Dolly_ChaiJenas, yes, like what R40s sifu has said, even if we give a 20% discount to the intrinsic value, it should still worth >RM2.00 for this gem... and dun forget about their track records (consecutive years of annual growth), and their current expansion activities... u go read the chairman's statement in their annual report, it is stated that the management expects the company to continue to grow...
red_85every quarter report of each company also said mgmt expects to continue grow..but they always cant deliver...prlexus is in the stage of flat growing already in last 2 years if you check their revenue.. now still not see any uptrend..still in flat/downtrend...jst wait
Dolly_Chaired_85, i doubt if you had really checked the data before you commented...
see this: http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Infomation.aspx?securityCode=8966
both revenue and net profit has been growing from 2013 to 2016 (without a miss)....
pls la, before you commented, at least do a simple check so that you wont be misleading ppl...
Dolly_Chainote that net profit margin has also been improving from 6.5% to 7.4%
Dolly_Chai2negative sentiments (while the stock's fundamentals remain intact) give you a great chance to buy at attractive price. as i had mentioned earlier, based on EV/EBIT = 10 ratio, this share is worth around RM2.52. If you are to give some discount to the EV multiple, it is still worth at least >RM2.00.
CPK999Chong Ket Pen so good planning can make 1% profit. Debt 1billion revenue 1billion. Master piece.
kmohan62If what is alleged by Bnews reader is indeed true,than the onus is on the relevant authorities to carry out thorough investigations without a iota of fear and favour and bring to book the culprits so as to serve a lesson to future would be manipulators.Nevertheless,let this serve as a lesson to those greedy punters out there...who themselves know very well what they are getting into..you very well know the consequences of your action...there's no such thing as free lunch...you have to do your homework before you invest your hard earned money...do your own analysis first before deciding if a particular company is worth investing in..