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erkongseng http://news.fx678.com/C/20170922/201709221859512289.shtml
23/09/2017 12:19
Betta68 Rm 1.06 coming,,, those contra player are after your share, you have waited so long to be at this level, 3.5 cent lost on Thursday after 470 milion sharex of contra player dumping did not panic me at all, i keep my share regardless, those contra may be able to bring the share down a bit but this will be temporary,, so prepare more cash to top up. some of you may sell to take profite so if you sell, sell high.. above 0.7, big reward is what you have been waiting for,,not a small one, yes be greedy this time..
23/09/2017 12:30
Betta68 Read my blog back from month and month, i was advising all of you to buy when hibiscus share was at 0.410,, do you remmember that?. Go to my blog comments and you will read about my blog.. and for you contra player, join us to move to rm 1.06 faster and gain for all,,
23/09/2017 12:33
Betta68 Contra player, go talk to your bosses,, there is alot to gain, before too late, buy Hibiscus at current level, there is still big margin to realise to RM 1.06...
23/09/2017 12:34
jumbojet I am confident and very sure that Hibiscus will surge higher in the coming days. believe me. i bought it at 0.18 cts and still keeping with many many lots.
23/09/2017 12:41
Betta68 My share average is below 0.26 and i do hold sfares in milions, still holding. I am a long term investor, not realy bother with the daily share value, but i do follow Hibiscus daily. Look back a year ago, hibiscus share is up by 300%. Hoever it still below its real value as of now..
23/09/2017 12:51
Betta68 https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/CO1:COM
23/09/2017 13:00
Betta68 Brent close higher 56.86 usd.
23/09/2017 13:00
YouBuyIBuy Monday is another 40% up day?
23/09/2017 13:02
jumbojet i dun think up by 40%... maybe 15%
23/09/2017 15:01
jumbojet 10 cts will be good enuf for the time being on monday
23/09/2017 15:02
GM68 10 cts up is very real to achieve. But do not panlc. Counter player may try to press down the share at opening session or just after but eventually. There is more buyer left then sellers.
23/09/2017 15:27
GM68 I follow Betta68. Jumbojet. Billim. Ilovehits.. johfat and all others that think the share will continue upward.
23/09/2017 15:29
FullTimeTrader Ha ha ha...mostly day trade traders here but the 1 hr chart is not looking good at all.
23/09/2017 15:39
ilovehits Coward's article. Uncle Koon's style. Hahahaha...
23/09/2017 15:50
Pokeyou monday top up
23/09/2017 15:58
beach relaxing mode This stock good? Wat are they doing ? Still can buy?
23/09/2017 16:03
tronx Monday if break 0.7 i will top up 10k
23/09/2017 16:04
hstha You can read some blogs on this page.
23/09/2017 16:07
hstha VenFx strongly recommend you to buy the stock and told you that its TP is over 1.00, but he has already sold the stock!! He wanted you to buy the stock at a high price and wanted to sell it at a high price. What a show!
23/09/2017 16:49
Tung Kwang Yii HIBISCS (5199), Please be caution.
Author: Alipapapa | Publish date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017, 11:36 PM



HIBISCS forming "shooting star" - The Shooting Star is a bearish reversal pattern that forms after an advance and in the star position, hence its name. A Shooting Star can mark a potential trend reversal or resistance level. The candlestick forms when prices gap higher on the open, advance during the session, and close well off their highs.

From the chart, we saw such scenario also happened before which i highlighted in the chart. Everytime come with huge volume.

So please be caution in trading this stock.
23/09/2017 22:59
musangfoxking why u mumble yourself???!!!!
u say he has sold, and then say he wanted to sell at higher price!!!!
if u cant think sequentially n logically, keep ur big mouth sealed!!!!
23/09/2017 16:52
hstha retard
23/09/2017 16:59
hstha i gave a conclusion first. That is the stupidest message i have read so far in my life.
23/09/2017 17:06
GM68 I dont think VenFX sold at highest price because high price did not reached yet. Is yet to come.
23/09/2017 19:19
thinkfirst Monday Hibiscus maybe will go down in opening but will up in afternoon, they will successful get the Sabah oil. Looking for 0.58-0.60 to add more. But if stay above 0.605 then no chance to go down.
23/09/2017 17:22
ilovehits Public IB says HIBISCS worth $0.58 currently but after acquired Sabah Oil, it worth $1.06. The acquirement will complete end of this year, near already. Kikiki...
23/09/2017 17:59
nekosan Will go 1 by next Friday. Mark my words
17/03/2017 17:01
55880955 swallow 10 biji of viagra also cannot go up
23/09/2017 18:32
ilovehits I'm so sorry to hear that, 55880955.

Posted by 55880955 > Sep 23, 2017 06:32 PM | Report Abuse

Swallow 10 biji of viagra also cannot go up.
23/09/2017 19:06
radzi Initially, I did not realised that Petronas has agreed for Hibiscus to take over Shell oil rigs in Sabah. But the news is here

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2017/05/30/petronas-okays-hibiscus-purchase-of-shell-stake-in-sabah-venture/

So, it is up to Hibiscus to come up with money to acquire that business which can be sourced from debt (if internal cash is not enough) or equity (if Hibiscus willing to let go some percentage of share to other party) or internal cash.

It stated in that news that Hibiscus will take over 50% of 62 million barrel oil , with extraction rate of 16,000 barrels per day. How will this impact Hibiscus annual profit ?

Hibuscus share is 50% of the 16,000 barrels per day = 8,000 barrels a day.

Number of barrel per year = 8,000 x 365 = roughly around 28 million barrel.

Assuming 20% downtime a year , then you get around 20 million barrel a year.

Opex ( Operational expenditure) is around USD 20 per barrel.

At price USD 50 per barrel, operating profit is USD 30 per barrel.

So operating profit from this acquisition = 30 x 20 million x 4 (exchange rate USD/MYR) = RM 2.4 billion a year.

Ar price USD 40 per barrel, operating profit is USD 20 per barrel.

So, operating profit from this acquasition = 20 x 20 x 4 = RM 1.6 billion a year.

Of that figure, just to be safe, we take the RM 1.6 billion a year operating profit.

Let us assume debt = USD 100 million = RM 400 million. Assume 10% interest rate, the interest cost is around RM 50 million a year.

Depreciation, let assume 10% a year, then depreciation cost = RM 50 million.

Gross profit = RM 1.5 billion.

Tax 30% (for easy calculation = RM 450 million.

Net profit is estimated at RM 1 billion.

Price RM 1 is very much achievable.

I think, the deal will be signed soon. So, up to you to decide to buy or to sell.
23/09/2017 19:09
nekosan from chart 1 is a matter of time
23/09/2017 19:13
VenFx ME :

TO, LOSSER / LIAR
(hstha aka tecpower aka gooman aka anonboy and it's others iDs )
please not to use my name here ... i didnt say what you simplily comments below but they are only your vomit words .

Posted by hstha > Sep 23, 2017 04:49 PM | Report Abuse
VenFx strongly recommend you to buy the stock and told you that its TP is over 1.00, but he has already sold the stock!! He wanted you to buy the stock at a high price and wanted to sell it at a high price. What a show!
23/09/2017 19:13
antidebt Right issue coming
23/09/2017 19:14
deddymines Guys pls don't panic. Oil & Gas stocks are about to pick up. About 3 years already downtrend. Many o&g companies that are surviving has already cut cost, sold assets, etc etc. Now oil price is recovering. We already had a rally in banking, metals and tech. It's about time for o&g. Maybe not to the point of before 2014 but some rally. I think we should not worry so much about last Thursday. Of course there was profit taking on that day as Friday was a holiday and Opec meeting was over the weekend. Investors a little cautious on that. Come Monday if able to hold above support level Hibiscs is a real gem to watch. PBB tp 1.06 with the North Sabah purchase in mind. Don't think 80c should be a problem in the near future. My 2 cents.
23/09/2017 19:15
Tung Kwang Yii Next Monday-Wednesday T3 T4, when the water is low tide only we can see who is swimming naked. Those who play contra here. I advice you guys beware
23/09/2017 19:21
antidebt Big shark already cabut and now having october fest party. What are u waiting ? Cabutlah.
23/09/2017 19:48
ilovehits Cabut your head! My money my decision! Actually cabut your hair also can. Tq. Tq.
23/06/2017 15:10
Tung Kwang Yii When others are greedy we must be careful, when others re fearful we must be greedy
23/09/2017 20:00
antidebt This concept cannot pakai for hibiscus.
When other people greedy, u must more greedy.
When they start panic, you run fast fast and don't look back.
23/09/2017 20:18
Betta68 Razi, i like your estimate/ analysis, just for your info, Hibiscus net share from Sabah is 9000 bbl ( not 8000). Sabah cost of oil production is only 13 usd, all and all you need to add these into your net profite estimate,,,
16/08/2017 21:42
Betta68 Also, lets not forget West seahorse field, estimated production is 12000 bbl Hibiscus share is 51%.
23/09/2017 07:51
Betta68 Anasuria + sabah + west seahorse total oil production net for Hibiscus is above 20000 bbl/ day,!,
23/09/2017 21:46
Betta68 This is Hibiscus vision to become major oil producer company in 5 years measured from 2011,!,
23/09/2017 21:47
ilovehits I guess 99% forumers here never read the latest analysis report. Public Investment Bank may rise Hibiscus's TP to $1.44.

Valuation (Page 11)

Sum-of Parts. We are valuing Hibiscus, with a TP of RM1.06 premised on our sum-of-parts valuation. Our TP includes our base case fair value of RM0.58 premised on a DCF valuation of Hibiscus‟ 50% stake in the Anasuria cluster with a 11.0% WACC, and also upside boost of an additional RM0.48 from the upcoming acquisition of the North Sabah asset which we have only valued its 2P reserves.

Assuming the Group‟s successful conversion of about 50% of its 2C contingent resources to 2P reserves, the Group would be fairly valued at RM1.44.

https://www.docdroid.net/Y3AdbRC/hibiscus.pdf

Happy weekend, guys. Don't think too much. Kikiki...
23/09/2017 22:03
radzi Public Bank coverage looks good. Through North Sabah acqusition, at share price 45 sen, they estimate a P/E ratio of 2.5 next year. A fair P/E at P/E = 15 would translate that to share price of RM2.70 per share. If institutional fund buy this, lets see how it moves.
23/09/2017 22:15
tronx All in la, by the end u will rich as f***
23/09/2017 22:19
RedEagle Monday all in..sell house buy hibiscus
08/09/2017 21:53
julian1981 hahaha...
24/09/2017 00:19
stncws beware page 10
should it not get the approval
it remains 58c!!!
24/09/2017 10:38

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Fortune888 U missed understand .
20/09/2017 17:12
Fortune888 Like wat we discuss previously someone purposely bring down the price by jus little amount of money
20/09/2017 17:16
ktlum84 Better wait for OPEC result.. if production cut extend... then the show on or vice verse!
20/09/2017 17:17
Fortune888 Actually OPEC main purpose is to keep oil price high. They sure will continue support oil production cut.
20/09/2017 17:43
Hitman you wait for OPEC you need to buy at 0.10cts..hahaha
20/09/2017 18:40
Fortune888 True Hitman. Tat time mayb 20sen .
20/09/2017 18:45
Hitman yup..hehe
20/09/2017 18:49
Shines B4 price can up more got to settle debts, out of PN 17
20/09/2017 19:15
HengHuatOng Yah man, price will only jump when they jump out of PN17. Can they jump out of PN17?
20/09/2017 19:28
Fortune888 Yes .another 1 month.
20/09/2017 19:31
HengHuatOng If yes really going to be Huat ah!
20/09/2017 19:51
Fortune888 Huat ar !!!
20/09/2017 19:56
Fortune888 Wait for contract for perisai kamelia. If got sure out of PN17 easily.
20/09/2017 20:04
ravz Don't think can get contract in such a short period
20/09/2017 20:08
ravz I feel the only way is for another company to safe perisai
20/09/2017 20:08
Hitman you wait for the contract you need to buy at 0.25cts..haha
20/09/2017 20:58
Betta68 Tomorrow i am queing to buy at 0.06,, all the way,,,
20/09/2017 22:53
Fortune888 Tomorrow I ll go another round at 6 sen .but need fast if not easily break 7-8sen resistance.
20/09/2017 23:23
Fortune888 GM68, Betta68 ,shines,hitman,ravz join the game tomorrow !!
20/09/2017 23:24
Betta68 I am all in,,,
21/09/2017 08:38
Hitman Fortune888, actually what news?
21/09/2017 08:54
HengHuatOng Will it go for another bull run today?
21/09/2017 10:11
Fortune888 Crude oil now edge up to usd 50.70.The bull will come soon .
21/09/2017 10:20
kennie Problem malaysia oil gas company.
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/muze/132809.jsp
21/09/2017 10:43
Betta68 Kennie1, go play in your yard...
21/09/2017 10:46
Fortune888 Haha. Now almost all oil & gas company is in huge debts . But most important is perisai got contract in hand. And new contract ia coming soon.
21/09/2017 11:07
ravz but why price dropping again
21/09/2017 11:07
Fortune888 Some investor will take profit but trade on ur own risk .
21/09/2017 11:13
Fortune888 High risk ,high return.
21/09/2017 11:16
ravz high risk can also be high losses
21/09/2017 11:49
Fortune888 Yes .tats y trade on ur own risk .
21/09/2017 12:03
HengHuatOng Alamak. Today profit taking. Bear not bull.
21/09/2017 14:11
Fortune888 Just small portion profit taking .see today traded value at Rm250k only.
21/09/2017 14:29
HengHuatOng How to see the traded value?
21/09/2017 15:15
Fortune888 I trade with maybank account. It show on the screen.
21/09/2017 16:23
ravz What happen..seem downwards trend
21/09/2017 17:08
Fortune888 Finally . At least can maintain same price 5.5 sen.
21/09/2017 17:08
ravz Looks like false alarm
21/09/2017 17:38
iambigshark not a good sign le
22/09/2017 10:53
HengHuatOng Wah all ONG sector pancit yesterday. Hope next week would be bullish.
22/09/2017 14:07
Fortune888 Oil and gas cuti yesterday
22/09/2017 14:12
Shines Hi buddies, how now, dare not rush in on Thur. Now q at 5 sen
22/09/2017 18:49
Hitman http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2017/09/23/oil-and-gas-shares-back-on-investors-radar/
23/09/2017 14:44
ravz can perisai be out of pn17.i think they should get extension. oil price is picking up
23/09/2017 14:53
GM68 In two weeks. Befor 11 october. Perisai will be out of PN17. Will maitain all his core business.
23/09/2017 16:18
GM68 Queu to buy at 0.06
23/09/2017 16:50
Shines @GM68 really bo out of PN17
23/09/2017 17:27
ravz What's makes u say will be out of pn 17
23/09/2017 17:36
ktlum84 not really! still haven't see any positive news from this company.. only 2 week left.
23/09/2017 18:21
pea3034 no way comeout from Pn17..lingkup
24/09/2017 00:20

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Stock Kingdom Agreed without any reservation!
24/09/2017 00:18

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gooman Buy Anzo for possible 90% profit in a month. Good QR
21/09/2017 08:42
speakup semalam speakup dah kata..... hari ni open 7sen. tepat sekali!
21/09/2017 08:59
Alex Wc Itu Kucing ciakap Tutup at 7sen , gua ciakap ini hari tutup kat 8.5sen
21/09/2017 09:07
Frank Tan Hohoho......0.07
21/09/2017 09:08
kenie Problem malaysia oil gas company.
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/muze/132809.jsp
21/09/2017 09:51
lobangking dgb,dgsb,m3tech,puc this few sen potential reach TP 20 sen
21/09/2017 09:53
JoshuaMS7 http://www.insage.com.my/ir/cmn/NewsAlertInfo.aspx?NewsID=201709203000209&Symbol=1201&Theme=99
21/10/2016 15:44
moneykey game over .wait for an other 6 months again
21/09/2017 12:23
YouBuyIBuy So today close 0.7 or 0.8?
21/09/2017 12:54
Fortune888 No game over.. game baru start. Crude oil baru break resistance usd 50 ,now heading higher..
21/11/2016 11:48
SumaInsider krik...krik...krik...
21/09/2017 14:35
JoshuaMS7 one day show! waiting for tomoro meeting lol
21/09/2017 14:38
GooGooDolls back to hole
21/09/2017 14:42
moneykey gone case
21/09/2017 15:09
moneykey today close 5.5c or worst
21/09/2017 15:13
tlbeng 7 cents is still a very strong resistance la
where got so easy to break eh, just be happy that it rise from 4.5cents to 7cents in a few days time la
up too fast later roller coaster baru scary
21/09/2017 15:43
kirawang suma sudah ada nyawa bah! kahkahkah
21/09/2017 15:44
Sanatan No more excitement already....... back to 0.055 already.
21/09/2017 16:07
djibaok O&G kaunter sumua sulah hamsap
21/09/2017 16:10
moneykey i wonder why people chase the dragon fart lol
21/09/2017 16:14
apolloang this company no money to pay creditors,why go buy? anytime can kena PN 17 and maybe 10 become 1???
22/02/2017 14:43
moneykey maybe will consider this counter if back to 0.04 ,buy and keep wait for it to hatch somehow lol
21/02/2017 15:27
Muzani Noor Asap betulllll
21/09/2017 16:44
donlee27 Where is the guy when share up . Come to this forum kri kri kri ? Hiding at hole now ? So now hiding . When price up back kric kric again ? Joker.
21/09/2017 15:03
SumaInsider Don Lee how much u lost selling 0.045 ? kah..kah..kah..
21/09/2017 17:15
donlee27 I didnt sell my 900 big lot because of you la. Hkc. Kasi tanam la. If not i made 9k.
21/09/2017 16:27
SumaInsider 9k no need to put loud speaker la. 9k i juz spend for top escorts blondies threesome ..i only hide in their holes la..kah..kah..kah.. 0.045/0.05 dont want to buy?..now only complain ka? cett..
21/05/2017 09:55
SumaInsider donlee..u r small tiny player..wasting time talking to u la..hahaha..
21/09/2017 17:58
donlee27 Ini 9k bukan wang ga ? Ini maciam dun come kric kric when sumatec up half cent everytime. k tau tak ?. Up 20 cents baru come kric kric
21/09/2017 17:58
polycarp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKFG0RjHdYY&list=RDdKFG0RjHdYY
21/09/2017 18:53
Tiong Kung King Zien Me 1500 lot but at 55 cent also not talk u ppl many talk?
21/09/2017 19:54
Desirees dont know how many kena trap.
21/09/2017 20:06
jasontan1177 http://disclosure.bursamalaysia.com/FileAccess/apbursaweb/download?id=82089&name=EA_GA_ATTACHMENTS

i am wondering why sumatec keep on saying it want to increase oil production since June.
said wanted to increase oil production by year end . It did mention this in previous announcements too.

My opinion is .sumatec should talk the talk walk the walk . Not just simply keep saying this and that.

IT said 1000 barrels by year end is very conservative increment forecast .......

now is already near Oct. What is suma daily production now? Show us the result and dun talk empty.

Doing business is not about how good you write your essay . This is the management style so far sumatec.

Talk can.but cant deliver.
21/09/2017 21:32
DreamEmperor Hwaaahhh. Suddenly Suma room becomes like a pasar malam. Oh ho ho.

Malaysians ... Malaysians ... typical ...
21/09/2017 22:47
DreamEmperor Posted by Klseman > Sep 21, 2017 07:42 AM | Report Abuse

This company can’t afford to pay for operations to ramp up production even oil price gone up since post 2014. What happened to all the investment injection ???History: always ask for money ,private placement , recycle old news .

stay away .
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Dude. Forget about fundamentals. It's all about mood & perception. And for someone named 'KLSEMan', you shud already know better.
21/09/2017 22:53
DreamEmperor Posted by SumaInsider > Sep 21, 2017 05:29 PM | Report Abuse

9k no need to put loud speaker la. 9k i juz spend for top escorts blondies threesome ..i only hide in their holes la..kah..kah..kah.. 0.045/0.05 dont want to buy?..now only complain ka? cett..
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Hwaaahhh, Insider. Lu itu Yalan P Lamlee club pinya kaki yuga gah. Wo ho ho. Palu la gua tau. Manyiak talak shangka pinya wor.
21/09/2017 22:58
YouBuyIBuy When down all saying bad, when up all Kirk krik
22/09/2017 00:01
SumaInsider Dream...ayoyo shhhhhhh ..nanti gua belanja lu la..ini 9k pun manyak bising lor ..gua ingat 90k or 900k
22/09/2017 02:18
JoshuaMS7 https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/09/20/oil-dips-on-rising-us-crude-inventories-and-production.html
22/09/2017 07:01
donlee27 Pp 45m on 2015 . Jus gone without any update on how money was spent. Now want pp again. Do you think bursa will approve. Two announcements out to explain why sumatec need this pp at 0.053 cents. May be this time not so easy to get approval from bursa. Just my speculation
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22/09/2017 11:03
YouBuyIBuy So meeting has extended more cut of oil export, Monday oil up, suma Tek tek should up also right?
22/09/2017 14:33
JoshuaMS7 ya oil price should break 60 and above soon. Fundamentally it will stable and uptrend mode after 3 years suffering period!! Patient is the key in investment!! Back to 0.100 should not be a problem!!
22/09/2017 16:22
Desirees so cepat pungut.55cts while still got.
22/09/2017 18:20
SateMan Bye losers
22/09/2017 21:34
RedEagle 56.77----------***60.00----------65.00***
22/09/2017 22:25
DreamMaster Posted by SumaInsider > Sep 22, 2017 02:18 AM | Report Abuse

Dream...ayoyo shhhhhhh ..nanti gua belanja lu la..ini 9k pun manyak bising lor ..gua ingat 90k or 900k
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gih gih gih

Bunttut ah? Whoops, I mean, butut ah?

Okay, lu blanja gua tiga awek satu kali lor. Satu lushia, satu alumenia, satu ujbekishtang, okay ah.

Klu talak ah, gua pikin lepot sama lu bini. gih gih gih gih.
23/09/2017 01:27
YouBuyIBuy 56.86 usd crude oil price up , you really should hold and buy more while cheap, only 6 sen, wtf
23/09/2017 13:03
SateMan Price will not up lor after this. So this stock will die meh
23/09/2017 13:26
SateMan Temporary happiness only..kikiki
23/09/2017 13:27
RedEagle Chicken rise 6.00 sumatec only 0.06.. Must buy..
24/09/2017 00:09

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stockraider LIKE GENERAL RAIDER BRAVELY SAYS RM 8.00 IS NOT EXPENSIVE AND CAN CHASE LOH....!! YOUR TP RM 15.00 LOH...!!
NO POINT KIANSUP KIANPSUP...KIANSUP...KIASU KIASU...KIASI KIASI CANNOT WIN THE WAR LOH...!! COWARDICE IS ONLY A LIABILITY LOH..!!

BE BRAVE BE FIRMED AND NEVER GIVE UP LOH....!!

SOMETIME IN SHORT TERM U MAYBE WRONG OVER THE LONGER TERM U MAY BE RIGHT LOH...!

YES IF BELIEVE UR JUDGEMENT NO AFRAID UR OPPONENT COMMENT, FOR ALL MAY KNOW, THOSE NAYSAYERS MAYBE UR ENEMY WITH VERY BAD INTENTION TO DESTROY UR DREAM LOH...!!

DON PLAY TO UR ENEMY PSYCHOLOGY WARFARE LOH...STANDBY UR STRATEGY AND OPINION LOH...!!

Always remember if u bought Rm 8.00 and now fall to Rm 7.50...why worry leh ??
In fact u should be happy, bcos u can buy more at lower price & more and make even more money loh...bcos u know it will go up Rm 15.00 loh..!!

It is precisely what General Raider buying few hundred share when it hit the bottom of Rm 7.00.
U must believe and have confidence loh...!!

So those who cry mother and cry mother fellah who chase HRC share above Rm 8.00 b4 crash...pls do not worry loh...!!
General Raider army are all here to fight for victory loh...!!

We will regain back all the territory we have lost b4..15 Oct 2017 and we march to total victory above rm 9.00 b4 end of Nov loh...!!

So watch out Rm 15.00 our long term TP we will be coming soon loh...!!
23/09/2017 14:07
stockraider KUALA LUMPUR — Hengyuan Refining Company (HRC), formerly known as Shell Refining Company (Federation of Malaya), held a ground-breaking ceremony Friday to commence the construction of a refinery upgrade program that will enable the refinery to produce Euro4M grade motor gasoline.

The $135 million program will involve the installation of an integrated program, which will facilitate the production of gasoline that meets the Euro4M specification, the company said.

HRC Chairman Wang Youde said the upgrading will include state-of-the-art technologies that have been tried-and-tested in refineries in China's eastern Shandong province.

Upon completion, this upgrade will allow the group's Port Dickson refinery to produce up to 1.15 million metric tons of gasoline per annum, Wang added.

The upgrading works are expected to be completed by the fourth quarter next year.

Hengyuan currently manages and operates a refinery in Port Dickson, Negeri Sembilan in Malaysia, with licensed production capacity of 156,000 barrels per day.

The refinery is involved in the refining and manufacturing of petroleum products, and provides employment for more than 500 individuals comprising of staff and contractors.

GENERAL RAIDER SAYS THIS IS HOW EFFICIENT WE SPEND OUR MONIES LOH..!!
WHILE PETRONAS SPEND RM 64 BILLION ON 300K BPD REFINERY AND PETRON SPEND RM 6.4 BILLION ON AN INCREASE CAPACITY OF 90K BPD....!!

IN COMPARISON HRC ONLY JUST SPEND A TINY RM 700 MILLION....TO UPGRADE OUR 120K BPD REFINERY LOH....!!

BUT OUR ARMY...WILL DELIVER THE GREATEST BLOW TO OUR ENEMY LOH...!!
23/09/2017 14:11
stockraider REFINERIES ARE INDEED BENEFICIARIES OF BENIGN CRUDE OIL PRICES. HOWEVER CRUDE OIL PRICE DO RANGE UP AND RANGE DOWN EVEN IN BENIGN PRICE SITUATION SAY FROM USD 45 TO USD 55 PER BBL.

IF CRUDE OIL TRENDS DOWN SAY FROM USD 55 TO USD 45 (ASSUMING FX RATE IS CONSTANT) DURING ONE QUARTER, REFINERIES WILL MAKE LESS MONEY RELATIVE TO WHEN CRUDE OIL TRENDS UP IN ONE QUARTER FROM USD 45 TO USD 55.

OIL REFINERIES MAKE CONSISTENT MARGINS IN BENIGN PRICE SITUATION ON PROVISO VARIANCE IN CRUDE OIL PRICE IS VERY MINIMAL AND TOTAL COSTS ARE WITHIN CONTROL.

TRENDING DOWN CRUDE OIL PRICE OVER ONE QUARTER JUST CHANGE THE INPUT COST AND WORKING CAPITAL AND LEAD TO FALLS IN THE SELLING PRICE OF THE REFINED PRODUCTS. SO PROFIT MARGINS WILL BE SQUEEZED WHEN CRUDE OIL PRICE TRENDS DOWN IN ONE QUARTER.

LIKEWISE TRENDING UP CRUDE OIL PRICE OVER ONE QUARTER TOO CHANGE THE INPUT COST AND WORKING CAPITAL AND LEAD TO RISES IN THE SELLING PRICE OF THE REFINED PRODUCTS.

SO A REFINERY WILL MAKE MORE PROFITS DURING BENIGN TRENDING UP RATHER THAN BENIIGN TRENDING DOWN OVER ONE QUARTER.

GENERAL RAIDER COMMENT;
AS LONG AS THE PRICE FLUCTUATION IS NOT HIGH VOLATILE.....THE REFINERY WILL MAKE MORE WHEN CRUDE OIL PRICE IS LOW THAN HIGH LOH...!!

HIGH CRUDE OIL PRICE GIVE U THE INVENTORY GAIN 1 TIME REFINERY STOCK GAIN...BUT IT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE LOH....!!
A LOW VOLATILE AND LOW CRUDE PRICE IS THE BEST FOR REFINERY MARGIN LOH..!!
23/09/2017 14:17
stockraider Posted by 3iii > Aug 28, 2017 08:57 PM | Report Abuse

>>>>Aug 28, 2017 11:54 AM | Report Abuse

Dear paperplane, raider, aseng and others,

No point for you to defend all accusation and attack on this stock, I know you want to help readers here sincerely.

Please note that 90% of investors lost money in stock market, only 10% make big money. Please follow the 10% but not 90%.

Please keep quiet and make money quietly, lesson learned. No point to share your hard work here, when they made money, they did not share with you. When they lost, they curse you. No worth your sincere effort.

It is a big bully here, did they do hard work to analyse the stock ? None.

They like to attack writers in I3 to show they are good. To me, they do not gain my respect unless they can show your good forecast here and talk with facts and figures.

I still respect you all despite you are wrong in your forecast. Try hard and make a good and correct forecast next time. You will do well in your investment.

It is my final posting in Hengyuan, I do not wish to share my information here. I would not bother to read any comment on me because I do not make any mistake here. I recommend a buy at 5.95, I advise readers here not to chase high the price to buy.

Thank you.
Ooi<<<<


An interesting post. The main points:

Dear paperplane, raider, aseng and others,

1. 90% of investors lost money in the stock market. (Ponder on this).

2. "I still respect you all despite you are wrong in your forecast. Try hard and make a good and correct forecast next time. You will do well in your investment. " (Ponder on this too.)

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Posted by stockraider > Aug 28, 2017 08:59 PM | Report Abuse X

osted by 3iii > Aug 28, 2017 08:57 PM | Report Abuse

>>>>Aug 28, 2017 11:54 AM | Report Abuse

Dear paperplane, raider, aseng and others,

No point for you to defend all accusation and attack on this stock, I know you want to help readers here sincerely.

3iii TALK RUBBISH LOH...!!

Hrc PLANT BROKE DOWN ALSO CAN MAKE EPS RM 0.28 PER QTR LOH..!!
EPS RM 0.28 PER QTR NO JOKE MAH...MORE THAN PET DAG LATEST Q2 EPS OF RM 0.248....TERROR OR NOT ??

HRC EARNINGS VERY TERROR ....NO JOKE LOH....!!

it is better to buy HRC q2 eps rm 0.28 pe 4x compare with overvalue Pet Dag Q2 eps rm 0.248 Pe 24x....!!

EVEN HRC PLANT BREAKDOWN EPS STILL BEAT PET DAG LOH...!

Point to Ponder ???
This confirm the business moats of HRC is very strong, even in a downcycle and severe plant breakdown HRC q2 eps of rm 0.28 still beat Pet Dag Eps of Rm 0.25 loh

So event in an up cycle Q3 coming, u can estimate How much HRC eps will beat Pet Dag loh...!!

If Pet dag Pe 24x at Rm 24.00 share price u can see what is the potential of HRC PE 5x at Rm 8.11 going fwd loh...!!
23/09/2017 14:25
stockraider Posted by stockraider > Aug 27, 2017 10:52 AM | Report Abuse X

Posted by ignissimia > Aug 25, 2017 11:32 PM | Report Abuse

I think 2Q17 results are pretty good, certainly not one to cry over.

Net increase in Cash and Cash Equivalents was RM401,805 for 2Q17 whuch is fantastic.

YES INCREASE OF RM 401 MILLION IN CASH WILL RESULT IN AN INCREASE CASH PER SHARE OF HRC OF RM 1.33 OVER 6 MTHS....VERY IMPRESSIVE LOH....!1

REMEMBER CASH IS KING MAH...!!

THE BEST INDICATOR OF PERFORMANCE IS CASHFLOW LOH....!!

2ND QTR WITHIN A PERIOD OF 3 MTHS HRC CASHFLOW IMPROVED HAS EXCEEDED GENERATION OF RM 400M OR RM 1.33 CASHFLOW PER SHARE.

VERY IMPRESSIVE LOH...!!

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Posted by stockraider > Aug 27, 2017 11:06 AM | Report Abuse X

Posted by 3iii > Aug 26, 2017 07:19 AM | Report Abuse

This is just a speculative counter for the plane made of paper.

He needs to get people to pay more for Hengyuan so that he can move on.

Hengyuan is a cyclical, capital intensive and commoditised company.

Its valuation will be based on the future cash flow that you CAN RECEIVE as a shareholder.

For the moment, it will use up all its cash to pay down its debts and also to upgrade its facilities.

When it starts to pay dividends on a regular basis, you can then attempt to do some valuation based on its cash flow.

For the moment, its NTA is the better guide. It is presently trading above its NTA.

If it is true that Q3 has always been a negative or loss for Hengyuan, perhaps, there might be a recurrent explanation. Can the smarter investors in this forum find its reason?

CONMAN 3iii RECOMMEND VALUATION OF HRC BASED ON NTA....WOULD IT NOT BE MORE APPROPRIATE IF WE VALUE BASED ON FREE CASHFLOW AS ADVISED BY WARREN BUFFET LEH ? IF U TAKE W.BUFFET VALUATION THE ESTIMATED FREE CASH GENERATION WILL BE RM 2.66 PA..!! IF U TAKE CONSERVATIVE 5X ON CASHFLOW IT EASILY EXCEED RM 13.00 LOH...!!

IF WE TAKE 3iii valuation based on NTA for Petroleum company u will get below scenario loh;

Petdag NTA valued at Rm 5.38 per share
Petron NTA valued at.. Rm 4.38 per share
hengyuan nta valued... Rm 4.41 per share

Ask yourself whether logic based on 3iii suggestion that Pet dag should trade at Rm 5.38 and petron trade at Rm 4.38 leh ?

So logical approach is to value based on free cashflow loh...!!
23/09/2017 14:31
stockraider ONE OF THE BEST ARTICLE RAIDER READ ON HRC LOH...!!
1) fundamental broken?
Does the crack spread kaput?
Crack spread breakout at USD8.8 since July.
So july contract, aug contract all above USD8. Current reading is USD12
IF U INVEST IN REFINERY U MUST BE PREPARE FOR ITS VOLATILITY IN EARNINGS. THIS IS BCOS CRUDE OIL ARE VOLATILE MAH....!!
IF YOUR BUSINESS TURNOVER IS RM 10 BILLION PA AND INVENTORY OF RM 1 BILLION, A SMALL INCREASE OF CRUDE SAY 5%....WILL MEAN A REDUCTION OF REFINERY MARGIN OF 1% PA AND INVENTORY LOSSES OF 2.5% MAH..!!
HRC CASE WILL MEAN GROSS PROFIT REDUCTION OF RM 100M AND INVENTORY LOSSES OF RM 25M. SURELY IF U MEASURE UR PERFORMANCE EVERY QUARTER, THERE WILL BE A CHANCE U MAYBE HIT BY A BAD QTR MAH...!!
IN FACT EPS OF RM 0.28 FOR Q2 IS CONSIDER VERY GOOD, IN A DOWN QTR MAH!

Q3 earning is based on Jul, Aug, Sept.
So we secured at least 2 months of higher crack spread.
Just hope that there's no more funny amo-tization, china-zation, depreciation, maintain-zation, then hrc investors can laugh to the bank when Nov ends.
SO IN DOWNCYCLE U SUFFER BUT IN UP CYCLE U BENEFIT THUS THE 3RD QTR U WILL BENEFIT ALOT LOH...!! WITH CRACK HIGH Q3 U CAN EXPECT EPS OF RM 1.00 FOR THE QTR LOH...!!

2) major customer runaway?
Looks like so much hoo-haa last night and this morning, Does HRC lost its major customer? Does shell petrol stations say 'oh look, hrc profit down 21%, let's get supply from petdag instead~'?
Revenue soared 25% From 2b to 2.5b revenue,and nobody mentioned it.
This analyst is at least fair to present both view.
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/hengyuan-2q-net-profit-down-21-maintenance-expenses-amortisation-charges. RAIDER JUST ADD HRC BUSINESS IS SO GOOD, THAT ALL THE PRODUCTION IS TAKEN BY SHELL, IN FACT SHELL NEED TO IMPORT XTRA 35%, BCOS TURNOVER EXCEED RM 20 BILLION A YEAR, THE LOCAL SUPPLIES NOT ENOUGH TO COVER LOH.

3) bleak future?
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-08/25/c_136555655.htm
To the opposite, HRC launches upgrading for the future euro4m compliance. HRC is looking forward and stay relevant and sustainable.
THE FUTURE GREAT HRC NORM MARGIN EXCEED 10%, WITH TURNOVER ABOUT RM 10 BILLION U R TALKING ABOUT RM 1 BILLION GROSS EARNINGS, AND AFTER EXPENSES U SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE ABOUT RM 450 MILLION SUSTAINABILITY OR EPS OF RM1.50 COMPARE TO PET DAG EPS NOT MORE THAN RM 1.00 BUT TRADE AT RM 24.00 LOH! NOT ATTRACTIVE MEH HRC AT RM 8.00 MEH ?


4) losing moat?
I didn't see major O&G player entering refinery sector for now. We have Petdag (go ahead and buy that PE 20 something, Forbes 500 companies), PetronM (next best bet, PE less than 10), and HRC (pure refinery play, staying on to support Shell stations, PE 5).
As PetronM decided to go ahead with new refinery investment, of course they are looking long-term. Is they are so willing to invest x amount of ringgit to establish a refinery which is half the capacity of HRC, what do you think of HRC near future relevance in this market? IN FACT RAIDER SEE PETRONAS IS STUPID TO INVEST RM 66 BILLION IN A REFINERY COMPLEX IN PENGERANG WITH PRODUCTION CAPACITY OF 300K BPD ABOUT 2X HRC CAPACITY LOH....!!

5) broken reinvestment rate?
No dividend issued, means 100% reinvestment for the company. For 6 months ended FY17, HRC already got 121sen. Even if Q3 and Q4 earns peanut, u still got RM6 as the baseline. So you can wait to enter RM6 (i also hope, kikiki). Then Q3 comes =) WARREN BUFFET GREATEST DREAM IS THAT HE CAN INVEST IN A GREAT COMPANY, THAT CAN REINVEST ITS PROFIT AND GROWTH MANY YEARS WITHOUT DIV LOH.! HRC FALL UNDER THIS CATEGORY LOH.

6) broken balance sheet?
Lucky HRC still churning out cash at this crack spread booming period. Also, CA > all liabilities if you look at latest balance sheet. Does HRC cry for money now, as does some cash-hungry companies whose cash flow statement is broken? NO LOH.! THE LATEST SHOWS HRC HOLDS RM 743 MILLION CASH COMPARE TO RM 238M CASH IN Q1, A FINE CASH SPINNER LOH.!
Look at Cash flow for the operating activities. Easily >RM400m for the 6 months ended. OR INVENTORY LOSSESded. Want to see Q3?

7) Inapt management?
This one I will swing a bit. They reported lower admin cost, but their forex skill tak boleh lah. Latest QR 35m gone just because of forex loss. If not still got 48 sen, higher than Alex's 40 sen conservative estimate. WHO CAN AVOID FOREX & inventory LOSSES ? U MAY SHOW LOSSES BUT GOING FWD IT MAY REVERSE MAH...ACTUALLY IS NOT INTELLIGENT TO LOOK AT THIS MATTER...!! LOOK FOR REAL WEALTH DRIVER LIKE SUSTAINED CASHFLOW MAH...!! LIKE WARREN BUFFET ALWAYS ADVOCATE MAH.!!
Correct me if I'm wrong. My forex knowledge quite weak. Got realized, unrealized stuff. Partly also due to ringgit strengthening against USD.

Last but not least u sell because someone in forum tell u limit down and sell. Ok la, sell~ BUT REMEMBER 3iii IS A CONMAN SAYING HRC WORTH RM 3.10 LOH...!! NO WAY SUCH RIDICOLOUS VALUE...!!
23/09/2017 14:33
stockraider A LOOK INTO ASB STOCKHOLDING IN HRC....!!
THIS ASB HAS BEEN HOLDING HRC SINCE 2005 LOH...!!
IF U LOOK AT PERIOD FROM 2005 TO 2012 HRC ALWAYS TRADE AT PRICE RANGE OF RM 8.00 TO RM 12.3O CONSISTENTLY OVER A PERIOD MORE THAN 7 YEARS.
WHY SHELL SHARE PRICE IS SO CONSISTENT AND NEVER BELOW RM 8.00 DESPITE PROFIT FLUCTUATION,? BCOS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF HRC LOH...!!

THE GAME CHANGER CAME WHEN SHELL START TO PLAN DISPOSAL OF HRC SINCE 2013 TO 2016....WHERE THEY EVENTUALLY SOLD FOR A SONG TO SHPC AT RM 1.92 PER SHARE LOH...!!

EVEN DURING THIS DISRUPTION PERIOD OF 2013 TO 2016...HRC STILL TRADE AT RM 2.00 TO RM 9.00 MAH...!!
ASB BLOCK SUFFERED A BIG LOSSES WHEN SHARE PRICE HIT RM 2.00 JUST 8 TO 9 MTHS AGO LOH....!!

OF COURSE SINCE HRC HAS RECOVERED TO THE GREAT OLD DAYS PRICE RANGE, ASB JUST WANT TO REDUCE SOME OF ITS EXPOSURE LOH...!!
IT IS QUITE NORMAL LOH....!!

WHAT SHOULD BE THE SUSTAINABLE EARNINGS OF HRC BASED ON Q2 ??

PROFIT................................................. RM 84.4M
FOREX LOSSES............................................ RM 24.00
LOSSES ON INVENTORY..................................... RM 16.00
LOSS OF INCOME DUE 21DAYS SHUTDOWN FOR MAINT............ RM 8.00
ADJ SUSTAIN PROFIT.....................................RM 132.00M

ADJ Q2 SUSTAINABLE EPS.................................. RM 0.44


RAIDER ADMIT LOH.....!

RAIDER ESTIMATE RM 22.00 TO RM 42.00 IS REALLY ON THE HIGH SIDE BCOS RAIDER BASED ON REPLACEMENT COST OF REFINERY AND NOT BASED ON EARNINGS AND CASHFLOW LOH....!!

AGAIN RAIDER DID CONCUR WITH CAPITALIST VALUATION OF RM 37.00 BASING ON Q1 EARNINGS LOH...IT IS A MISTAKE LOH...!!
BCOS...THIS HIGH EARNINGS DID NOT SUSTAINED AND ON TOP OF THAT HRC WAS HIT BY FOREX, INVENTORY AND 21 DAYS MAINTENANCE EXPENSE...CERTAINLY EPS OF RM 0.28 LOOKS CREDIBLE BEARING IN MIND U NEED TO ABSORB THIS EXCEPTIONAL 1 TIME EXTRA COST LOH....!!

AS RAIDER MENTIONED THE SUSTAINED LONGTERM EPS OF HRC IS RM 1.50, OVER THE MID TERM....THE REVISE TP OF RM 15.00 IS NOT UNREASONABLE LOH..!!

RAIDER NO LONGER THINK OF RM 37.00 ANYMORE LOH...!!
BUT NO HARM WITH HIGH TP LOH...!!
IN ORDER TO REACH RM 37.00....U MUST 1ST CROSS YR ALL TIME HIGH OF RM 8.68 AND LONG TERM NEW RAIDER TP OF RM 15.00 MAH...!!

SO TODAY HRC RM 8.00 SHOULD U SELL LEH ??
ANS: IF U NEED MONIES AND CANNOT AFFORD U BETTER SALE LOH...!!

SHOULD RAIDER BUY ??
RAIDER ADMIT EVEN RM 8.00 IS UNDERVALUE BUT RAIDER NO BUY LOH..!!
RAIDER WILL BE COLLECTING HEAVILY IF FALL TO RM 7.00 & BELOW.

WHY LIKE THAT ??
IF RAIDER CAN BUY CHEAPER FROM PANIC SOOCHAI WHY NOT ??
A LOWER PRICE PURCHASE WILL INCREASE RAIDER PROFIT MARGIN LOH...!!

RAIDER IS VERY TRANSPARENT IN THE PRESENTATION LOH....!!
NO NEED TO DUMB DUMB AND DIE & DIE HOLD IF U CANNOT AFFORD IT AND CANNOT WAIT LOH.....!!

U QUICKLY SALE ANYTHING ABOVE RM 7.00. 1ST THING IN THE MORNING LOH..!!

ALTHOUGH RAIDER LOVE U CAN CAN HOLD AND WAIT FOR NEW TP RM 15.00...BUT IF U HAVE NO CHOICE TO PART WAYS BCOS U CANNOT AFFORD U BETTER DO IT FAST LOH....!!

THE NEW SUPPORT FOR HRC IS RM 7.00 LOH....!!
RAIDER AND GANG WILL BE THERE LOH....!!
23/09/2017 14:35
stockraider Posted by stockraider > Aug 26, 2017 04:21 PM | Report Abuse X

Posted by pang72 > Aug 26, 2017 03:50 PM | Report Abuse

Raider, I am not worry , you Sapu
But I am worry all super SMART INVESTOR here who putting all negative comments here will making BIG SAPU on Monday.
This is always the case...
AM I RIGHT?
As far as I know, no one so patiently to condemn one stock consistently in months ...putting so much time here

PANG,
W.BUFFET ONCE QUOTED SHARE PRICE SHORT TERM IS A VOTING MACHINE AND LONG TERM IS A WEIGHING MACHINE MAH...!!

SO THE CONSEQUENCE IF PEOPLE WANTS TO SELLDOWN A FUNDAMENTAL GOOD UNDERVALUE STOCK IN SHORT TERM, NOTHING MUCH WE CAN DO MAH....!!

ALBERT EIENSTEIN, QUOTED THERE ARE 2 THING INFINITE IN THIS WORLD, 1 INFINITE IS THE SIZE OF UNIVERSE AND THE OTHER INFINITE IS HUMAN STUPIDITY LOH..!!

SO IF SMART SUPER INVESTOR WANTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUPID PEOPLE...NOTHING MUCH WE CAN DO LOH.....!!

AFTERALL...THIS HOW WE MAKE MONEY....IN THE MARKET....!!
WHERE THE INTELLIGENT BEAT THE SOOCHAI AND MAKE MONEY LOH..!!

THE BEST WE CAN DO IS TO EDUCATE AND GUIDE THEM ON INVESTMENT, IF THEY WANT TO LEARN, LISTEN AND ACCEPT OUR GUIDE IS UPTO THEM LOH...!!

WE NO NEED TO WORRY AND OUR CONSCIENCE IS CLEAR, ONCE WE HAD DONE OUR PART MAH..!!

Only investor who have the long term perspective and be discipline and think logical will be the ultimate big winner loh...!!
23/09/2017 14:37
stockraider How many companies in Bursa makes an EPS of 1.21 at half time. Only a handful. If Hengyuan is not a good buy, I don't know what is. Same time last year under Shell, they made an EPS of 69 Sen. Look at the balance sheet closely and you will realise the substantial increase in cash flow. The refiners are here to stay for awhile so long as we're in agreement that crude oil prices are not going up anytime soon due to the glut situation. I'm pretty confident that Hengyuan will do even better in the 2nd half of 2017. With cash growing exponentially, I won't be surprise that the owners would be declaring dividends soon. So, you guys decide whether to stay or get out. No right or wrong answer. Those that get it right usually are the winners in the stock market. Spend more time understanding the current phenomenan why refiners are making the big money, and you will be rewarded handsomely, cheers. >>>>

YES RAIDER ASK HOW MANY COMPANY LISTED IN KLSE HALF YR MAKE RM 1.21 PER SHARE AND TRADE AT RM 8.10 ?
ANSWER : NON HRC IS A VERY EXTREME UNDERVALUE CO WITH PE 4X ONLY LOH..!!
23/09/2017 14:38
stockraider Posted by supersaiyan3 > Aug 27, 2017 11:27 AM | Report Abuse

Its a damn cyclical, in fact everyone knows, except those SENKALIN writers and naive followers. That's why the price is hovering around RM8 rather than RM20.

Nothing magical about last two quarters of super profit, just inventory. Recent result, back to square one.

Market is right!!

Posted by supersaiyan3 > Aug 27, 2017 11:27 AM | Report Abuse

Its a damn cyclical, in fact everyone knows, except those SENKALIN writers and naive followers. That's why the price is hovering around RM8 rather than RM20.

Nothing magical about last two quarters of super profit, just inventory. Recent result, back to square one.

Market is right!!

Posted by supersaiyan3 > Aug 27, 2017 11:27 AM | Report Abuse

Its a damn cyclical, in fact everyone knows, except those SENKALIN writers and naive followers. That's why the price is hovering around RM8 rather than RM20.

Nothing magical about last two quarters of super profit, just inventory. Recent result, back to square one.

Market is right!!

Qtr … Financial … EPS … DPS
No … Quarter … (Cent) … (Cent)
2 … 30-Jun-17 … 28.1 … 0.00
1 … 31-Mar-17 … 93.2 … 0.00
cul 30-6-17 ... 121.0... 0.0
4 … 31-Dec-16 … 69.3 … 0.00
3 … 30-Sep-16 … -27.0 … 0.00
2 … 30-Jun-16 … 35.6 … 0.00
1 … 31-Mar-16 … 33.9 … 0.00
cul 31-12-16....111.0..0.0
4 … 31-Dec-15 … 32.2 … 0.00
3 … 30-Sep-15 … -50.4 … 0.00
2 … 30-Jun-15 … 107.4 … 0.00
1 … 31-Mar-15 … 28.1 … 0.00
cul 31-12-15... 117.0..0.00

If u look carefully HRC profitable for FYE 2015 & 2016 on quarterly basis u notice in;

FYE 2015 Annual eps of Rm 1.17 ....u will notice q3 2015 HRC make losses eps of Rm 0.50 for the qtr.

FYE 2016 Annual Eps of Rm 1.11....u will notice q3 2016 HRC losses eps 0.27 for the qtr loh...!!

FYE 2017 for 1st half year of eps Rm 1.21...no qtr losses for q1 and q2.

Thus year 2015 and 2016....out of 4 qtr result....3 qtr profitable and 1 qtr losses .

FYE 2017 half yr.....out of 2 qtr results all is profitable...non losses loh...!!

But u can expect 2017 coming Q3 highly profitable and Q4 highly profitable bcos of the high crack spread loh....!!
Hence the q2 result of HRC eps of rm 0.28 consider good mah...!! Bcos it is expected all the 4 qtr for 2017 will be profitable.

Raider revise HRC TP, to long term Rm 15.00 per share, going forward basing on record Eps of Rm 2.42 for 2017....on PE 6.2x.

THUS DO NOT BE TOO WORRIED FOR HRC LOH....USING QTRLY EPS AS A GUIDE HRC HAS SOME VOLATILITY LOH.....!!

HOWEVER ALWAYS LOOK AT THE FREE CASH FLOW OF HRC FOR THE HALF YEAR 2017 IS RM 1.44 PER SHARE, WHICH GENERATED RM 432 MILLION IN FREE CASHFLOW WITHIN 6 MTHS.

THUS OVERALL RESULT IS CONSIDER GOOD FOR HRC LOH...!!

Summarise why HRC consider very good;

1. 6 mths EPS rm 1.21, in addition its cash position has grown exceeding rm 400 million or rm 1.33 cash per share, meaning no joke the profit of HRC is back by quality earnings.
2. Future consider good, strong crack margin exceeding usd 12 bpd, and big potential of reversal of inventory and forex losses of q2 in q3.
3. Still trading at low PE 4x with growth potential and ROE exceeding 60% loh....!!
4. Rerating of PE 4x in line with Petron and Pet Dag valuation loh...!
23/09/2017 14:39
stockraider RAIDER COMMENT;
A LOOK INTO ASB STOCKHOLDING IN HRC....!!
THIS ASB HAS BEEN HOLDING HRC SINCE 2005 LOH...!!
IF U LOOK AT PERIOD FROM 2005 TO 2012 HRC ALWAYS TRADE AT PRICE RANGE OF RM 8.00 TO RM 12.3O CONSISTENTLY OVER A PERIOD MORE THAN 7 YEARS.
WHY SHELL SHARE PRICE IS SO CONSISTENT AND NEVER BELOW RM 8.00 DESPITE PROFIT FLUCTUATION,? BCOS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF HRC LOH...!!

THE GAME CHANGER CAME WHEN SHELL START TO PLAN DISPOSAL OF HRC SINCE 2013 TO 2016....WHERE THEY EVENTUALLY SOLD FOR A SONG TO SHPC AT RM 1.92 PER SHARE LOH...!!

EVEN DURING THIS DISRUPTION PERIOD OF 2013 TO 2016...HRC STILL TRADE AT RM 2.00 TO RM 9.00 MAH...!!
ASB BLOCK SUFFERED A BIG LOSSES WHEN SHARE PRICE HIT RM 2.00 JUST 8 TO 9 MTHS AGO LOH....!!

OF COURSE SINCE HRC HAS RECOVERED TO THE GREAT OLD DAYS PRICE RANGE, ASB JUST WANT TO REDUCE SOME OF ITS EXPOSURE LOH...!!
IT IS QUITE NORMAL LOH....!

ANSWERING THE CONCERN IN A FUNDAMENTAL AND RATIONALE WAY.

Back on July 31st, we published a post titled "3 risks to consider before investing in Hengyuan". We highlighted the risks regarding petroleum refining companies being, 1) Earnings could be too optimistic, 2) Crack spreads are highly volatile and 3) Hengyuan Shandong's low entry price.

2nd Quarter Results Disappointment

Today, Hengyuan reported its results for the second quarter which was lower both year-on-year and quarter-on-quarter. The reasons, in a nutshell, were 2 things:

One of its crude distillers was on temporarily shutdown for approximately 3 weeks for a planned minor turnaround maintenance in May 2017.
There were minor turnaround maintenance expenses and additional amortisation charges arising from new software/intellectual property assets.
BTW THIS 2 THINGS ONLY RESULT IN ADDITIONAL COST OF ROUGHLY RM 8 MILLION, RAIDER CONSIDER MINOR IMPACT LOH...!!
MORE LOSSES COME FROM INVENTORIES AND FOREX MAH...!!
HOWEVER IT IS ONE TIME EXCEPTIONAL CHARGES, WE ARE SEEING SUNNY SKY GOING FWD.

Our Concerns were Valid

In our earlier post, we said that "refineries require maintenance – both planned and unplanned" and "Obvious reasons why Shell disposed of its Malaysian refinery could be due its unwillingness to invest further".
Looking at the reasons for the weak quarter, it is clear that our concerns were valid, i.e. there was a plant shutdown which was unaccounted for and there are higher than expected maintenance expenses as the refinery is aged.

YES IS VALID...THE AMOUNT IS TOO SMALL TO MAKE A MAJOR IMPACT MAH..!!
IT IS JUST MAKING MOUNTAIN OUT OF MOTHBALL LOH..!!

In fact, Petron Malaysia announced its results yesterday that fell short of some estimates as well. The culprit - 25 days shutdown in one of its plants.
It is NOT our Desire for Anyone to Lose Money

We do not take pride in being right, especially when it concerns the possibility of investors losing money. Quite the opposite, when we highlight risks, we hope that we are wrong and everyone makes money.
Our intention is merely to highlight the risks when we feel that investors have become too euphoric. This is something we hope to continue doing in the future.

RAIDER LIKE TO POINT OUT THE AUTHOR ARE RIGHT ON HIGHER MAINTENANCE COST, BUT BOTH HRC AND PETRON RECORDED GOOD PROFIT THE DIFFICULT CHALLENGE MAH...!!

LETS BE RATIONAL AND THINK...IS THE SHARE PRICE OF PETRON AND HRC EUPHORIC WHEN BOTH OF THEM TRADE AT A PE FAR BELOW PE 10X COMPARE WITH PET DAG 24X LOH ??...!!

NO LOH !!...U JUST LOOK AT THE LATEST BALANCE SHEET BOTH HRC AND PETRON SHOWS TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN CASH HOLDING AND REDUCTION IN BORROWING, AN INDICATION OF HIGHLY PROFITABLE BUSINESS GENERATED BY OPERATIONS MAH..
23/09/2017 14:42
stockraider osted by ooihk899 > Aug 27, 2017 12:14 PM | Report Abuse

raider, you have already state your points clearly. Let them talk lo, because some want to collect cheap at 6 or 5. Let it be lo.
I beleive many wanted to collect cheap including you and me, kikikik. Next month when the forum has less people, then we discuss again lo. What say you?

THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT I M THINKING ALSO MAH...!!

BUT RAIDER IS MAKING A LAST DITCH EFFORT TO HELP THE I3 INVESTORS LOH...!!

YES RAIDER LIKE TO COLLECT CHEAP...BUT RAIDER TRY TO TRANSPARENT AND LET THEM KNOW...TO AVOID EXPLOITING THEM MAH...!!

ANYHOW RAIDER WILL TONE DOWN UNTIL MONDAY COLLECTION TIME ?

Raider comment,
Just look at honesty of raider when dealing with the falling price of HRC, although raider want to collect cheap but raider also want to be transparent loh.....!!
23/09/2017 14:45
stockraider Posted by stockraider > Aug 27, 2017 10:47 AM | Report Abuse X

U MUST UNDERSTAND THIS LOH....!!
RAIDER ARMY IS INTACT....BCOS THEY JUST WAIT FOR Q2 FOR CONFIRMATION B4 ALL OUT ATTACK MAH....!!

THE Q2 RESULT IS LOWER THAN EXPECTATION....SO GENERAL RAIDER NO NEED TO ALL OUT ATTACK BASED ON DYNAMIC INVESTMENT MAH....!!

HOWEVER GENERAL RAIDER ARMY ARE PREPARE TO SLOWLY COLLECT FROM RM 7.00 AND DOWNWARDS LOH....!!
THE BENEFIT OF ARMY WAITING B4 ATTACKING ENSURE ALL OUT ATTACK HAS STRATEGIC SAFETY LOH....!1

HRC TO FIGHT ON MAH...!!
COLLECT LOWER LOH...!!
DON GIVE UP MAH...!!
LONG TERM TP REVISE TO RM 15.00 LOH...!!


Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > Aug 25, 2017 10:24 PM | Report Abuse

Hengyuan is still making money. 6 months EPS is 1.21.
It is not a losing money stock.
Free cash flow had improved tremendously.

Please do not talk until it is a losing money stock. PER will be a benchmark for all stocks.

Thank you.
Ooi

LISTEN TO MR OTB IN THIS CASE.
HE HAS ALOT OF BUSINESS SENSE LOH....!!
DO NOT FEAR MKT....ALWAYS STRATEGISE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MR MKT LOH...!!

Why Q2 2017 financial result is disappointing?
1. Stock loss of USD1.71 per barrel
2. 3 weeks of maintenance on one of the distillers causing refinery short of 0.3 million barrel
3. Higher maintainance cost resulting higher operating cost for Q2.
4. Lower product market price compare with Q1
5. Forex losses

THE EXCEPTIONAL COST SUCH AS 3WKS MAINTENANCE ARE BOUGHT FWD FROM NORMALLY Q3 TO Q2 LOH...!!

STOCK LOSS OF USD 1.71 PER BARREL WILL REVERSE TO GAIN IN Q3 LOH...!! SINCE CRUDE PRICE RECOVERED.

FOREX LOSSES...SHOULD IMPROVE AND TO TURN INTO PROFIT, SINCE RM STARTED TO STRENGTHEN AGST USD IN 3RD QTR MAH....!!

Q3 CRACK MARGIN AT USD 12.8 SHOULD IMPROVE ALOT COMING 3RD QTR LOH...!!

stockraider
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Posted by stockraider > Aug 27, 2017 10:48 AM | Report Abuse X

PEOPLE SAY STRONG FUNDAMENTAL DLADY AND NESTLE...BUT U ASK YOURSELF IF STRONG FUNDAMENTAL HOW COME IS Q2 RESULT NO GOOD LEH ??

DON LET THE ANALYST SIMPLY MANIPULATE U MAH....!!
U MUST CALL A SPADE A SPADE MAH....!!
LIKE RAIDER VERY HONEST....SAYS Q2 RESULT BELOW EXPECTATION...THATS WHY RAIDER DOWNGRADE ITS TP FROM RM 37.00 TO RM 15.00 LOH...!!

BUT PLS BEAR IN MIND DESPITE DOWNGRADE IN HRC EARNINGS IT IS STILL TRADING AT PE BELOW 5X MAH....!!

DLADY AND NESTLE BESIDE....BAD QTR RESULT....IT IS OVERVALUE TOO WITH PE EXCEEDING 25X LOH....!!
23/09/2017 14:47
probability I think Mr.KOON should really read all the above and LOOK AT HIMSELF IN THE MIRROR and ask these questions......


- why did i spend so much money on Jaks? milllion and millions in Eversendai?

- how did i become so blind and miss this Hengyuan?

- why was is so afraid and bought so little Hengyuan earlier?

- why didn't i realize this simple maths earlier?

- whats the point of me having so much money...but not capitalizing this enormous potential?

- what is the worth of pumping more and more money on Jaks and Sendai just to sustain the price and my ego?

- why am i so egoistic and instead not pumping the same money here on Hengyuan?


after all..i was the first one to know about this stock even before the 4 gentleman who came to my house and disclose its potential..

i am still the smartest superinvestor
23/09/2017 14:56
probability aiyo dragon...me including u also cannot own company la...thats why i want to speak to Mr.Koon via the magic mirror ma...he only listen to another superinvestor ma..hiding behind the mirror he is seeing...kikiki
23/09/2017 15:04
probability Mr.Koon's August 7 was posted when HY price was at 8.21...

I suspect Mr.Koon had sold above this price recently when it went to 8.46 level (after Q2 results)....as he is probably very afraid if it could sustain at this level and he does not know how to predict Q3 earnings.

But as usual, those who sold will never buyback at a price higher than they sold. As the price moves higher they will never look back at it again.



Posted by yewyin33 > Aug 7, 2017 05:19 PM | Report Abuse

Hengyuan's 1st quarter EPS 93 sen, you can imagine what will be its EPS for the year. Assuming the company continues to have same earning all the next 3 quarters, its EPS for the year will be Rm 3.72. Based on P/E 5 the share price should be Rm 18. Can you find another stock of this quality selling at such a low P/E?

A few commentators are afraid that I will start dumping my shares.

I am not so stupid to dump at this price level. Based on the huge volume and the price increases every day, I believe there are many big fund managers rushing to buy.

My advice to those who have sold to buy back. Those who have spare money, Hengyuan is the best buy and those owners of Hengyuan not to sell too early.

Best wishes
Koon Yew Yin



Posted by yewyin33 > Aug 2, 2017 11:24 AM | Report Abuse

As you can see, the price of Hengyuan was only Rm 6.40 when I posted my article 3 trading days ago. It went above Rm 8.00.

Yesterday it went down to as low as Rm 7.15 but closed at Rm 7.40. Currently, as I am writing the price went up to Rm 7.90 up 50 sen. Since the price fluctuates quite violently, it is good for day traders provided they know what to do. I am sure there are many people have sold and just as many have bought the stock yesterday.

Those who have sold are now boasting and laughing to the bank. As I said many a time before, day traders cannot make much money because they will not buy back when the price continues to go up. They cannot control their emotion of shame. They will not buy at higher prices than the price they sold. They will regret the mistake of selling too early.

All subscribers of Mr Ooi Teik Bee's weekly circulars can see that his target price is above Rm 15.00. But I do not recommend you to hold on your shares until it reaches Rm 15.00.

Nevertheless, I must thank you for buying so many shares to make me richer.
23/09/2017 15:29
musangfoxking good investors dun sell now!!! now high price??? sohai cannot see the coming of the new revelation soon!!!!! dun u believe the great bomoh??? kekekekekekek
23/09/2017 16:05
probability i really think this GE company is going to make super profit liao...if got clients..

but many dont even want to take the insurance...hmm...why ah?
all oledi become panlai...
23/09/2017 16:06
probability Just restating the Full Insurance policy of GE, due to lack of encouraging response (incase anyone missed my postings):

Posted by probability > Sep 23, 2017 01:10 PM | Report Abuse X

Great Eastern Stock Insurance, Important Notice:

Upon the confirmation that Brent Oil price sustains above 55 USD/brl and crack spread above 9 USD/brl by coming Monday, 25th Sept 2017, referred by the Tech Specialist as "the last trading day", its our pleasure to offer our Insurance Certificate as per below:

This Certificate ensures the buyer of Hengyuan Refining Co Bhd to be able to redeem all shares at the average transaction price that took place on 25th Sept 2017, with the same value in Cash, in the future at any point of time before 25 Feb 2018.

As such, the buyer is given full assurance that they would not risk losing a single penny but stand to gain an enormous amount of money exceeding 100% of their stakes as had been highlighted by beloved General Raider.


Posted by probability > Sep 23, 2017 01:28 PM | Report Abuse X

Just an update, the Great Eastern Stock Insurance came up with the Insurance offer above even considering there is 'tiny winy slim' chance that the price could even limit up on Monday 25th Sept 2017.

Meaning, they are quite sure they can even handle a purchase price of 10.


Posted by probability > Sep 23, 2017 01:37 PM | Report Abuse X

aiyo, forgot to announce..this GE insurance has no premium charges, no charges at all to secure the Insurance Certificate.

Only thing is all paper profits just one day before the Q3 results are out, acquired by the party who entered the deal with GE, will go into GE's account.

Very fair deal ma...absolutely no risk for the buyer...kikiki
23/09/2017 16:11
stockraider Posted by pang72 > Aug 26, 2017 03:50 PM | Report Abuse

Raider, I am not worry , you Sapu
But I am worry all super SMART INVESTOR here who putting all negative comments here will making BIG SAPU on Monday.
This is always the case...
AM I RIGHT?
As far as I know, no one so patiently to condemn one stock consistently in months ...putting so much time here

PANG,
W.BUFFET ONCE QUOTED SHARE PRICE SHORT TERM IS A VOTING MACHINE AND LONG TERM IS A WEIGHING MACHINE MAH...!!

SO THE CONSEQUENCE IF PEOPLE WANTS TO SELLDOWN A FUNDAMENTAL GOOD UNDERVALUE STOCK IN SHORT TERM, NOTHING MUCH WE CAN DO MAH....!!

ALBERT EIENSTEIN, QUOTED THERE ARE 2 THING INFINITE IN THIS WORLD, 1 INFINITE IS THE SIZE OF UNIVERSE AND THE OTHER INFINITE IS HUMAN STUPIDITY LOH..!!

SO IF SMART SUPER INVESTOR WANTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUPID PEOPLE...NOTHING MUCH WE CAN DO LOH.....!!

AFTERALL...THIS HOW WE MAKE MONEY....IN THE MARKET....!!
WHERE THE INTELLIGENT BEAT THE SOOCHAI AND MAKE MONEY LOH..!!

THE BEST WE CAN DO IS TO EDUCATE AND GUIDE THEM ON INVESTMENT, IF THEY WANT TO LEARN, LISTEN AND ACCEPT OUR GUIDE IS UPTO THEM LOH...!!

WE NO NEED TO WORRY AND OUR CONSCIENCE IS CLEAR, ONCE WE HAD DONE OUR PART MAH..!!


Raider comment;

In other words, in short term it is difficult to prevent people from acting stupid loh....!!
A good investor make sure, that he is not the one acting stupid by having a longer term investment horizon loh....!!
23/09/2017 16:34
stockraider THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST ARTICLE RAIDER READ ON HRC LOH...!!

1) fundamental broken?
Question to ask:
Does the crack spread kaput?
Crack spread breakout at USD8.8 since July.
So july contract, aug contract all above USD8. Current reading is USD12
IF U INVEST IN REFINERY U MUST BE PREPARE FOR ITS VOLATILITY IN EARNINGS. THIS IS BCOS CRUDE OIL ARE VOLATILE MAH....!!
IF YOUR BUSINESS TURNOVER IS RM 10 BILLION PA AND INVENTORY OF RM 1 BILLION, A SMALL INCREASE OF CRUDE SAY 5%....WILL MEAN A REDUCTION OF REFINERY MARGIN OF 1% PA AND INVENTORY LOSSES OF 2.5% MAH..!!
HRC CASE WILL MEAN GROSS PROFIT REDUCTION OF RM 100M AND INVENTORY LOSSES OF RM 25M. SURELY IF U MEASURE UR PERFORMANCE EVERY QUARTER, THERE WILL BE A CHANCE U MAYBE HIT BY A BAD QTR MAH...!!
IN FACT EPS OF RM 0.28 FOR Q2 IS CONSIDER VERY GOOD, IN A DOWN QTR MAH!

Q3 earning is based on Jul, Aug, Sept.
So we secured at least 2 months of higher crack spread.
Just hope that there's no more funny amo-tization, china-zation, depreciation, maintain-zation, then hrc investors can laugh to the bank when Nov ends.
SO IN DOWNCYCLE U SUFFER BUT IN UP CYCLE U BENEFIT THUS THE 3RD QTR U WILL BENEFIT ALOT LOH...!! WITH CRACK HIGH Q3 U CAN EXPECT EPS OF RM 1.00 FOR THE QTR LOH...!!

2) major customer runaway?
Looks like so much hoo-haa last night and this morning, Does HRC lost its major customer? Does shell petrol stations say 'oh look, hrc profit down 21%, let's get supply from petdag instead~'?
Revenue soared 25% From 2b to 2.5b revenue,and nobody mentioned it.
This analyst is at least fair to present both view.
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/hengyuan-2q-net-profit-down-21-maintenance-expenses-amortisation-charges. RAIDER JUST ADD HRC BUSINESS IS SO GOOD, THAT ALL THE PRODUCTION IS TAKEN BY SHELL, IN FACT SHELL NEED TO IMPORT XTRA 35%, BCOS TURNOVER EXCEED RM 20 BILLION A YEAR, THE LOCAL SUPPLIES NOT ENOUGH TO COVER LOH.

3) bleak future?
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-08/25/c_136555655.htm
To the opposite, HRC launches upgrading for the future euro4m compliance. HRC is looking forward and stay relevant and sustainable.
THE FUTURE GREAT HRC NORM MARGIN EXCEED 10%, WITH TURNOVER ABOUT RM 10 BILLION U R TALKING ABOUT RM 1 BILLION GROSS EARNINGS, AND AFTER EXPENSES U SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE ABOUT RM 450 MILLION SUSTAINABILITY OR EPS OF RM1.50 COMPARE TO PET DAG EPS NOT MORE THAN RM 1.00 BUT TRADE AT RM 24.00 LOH! NOT ATTRACTIVE MEH HRC AT RM 8.00 MEH ?

4) losing moat?
I didn't see major O&G player entering refinery sector for now. We have Petdag (go ahead and buy that PE 20 something, Forbes 500 companies), PetronM (next best bet, PE less than 10), and HRC (pure refinery play, staying on to support Shell stations, PE 5).
As PetronM decided to go ahead with new refinery investment, of course they are looking long-term. Is they are so willing to invest x amount of ringgit to establish a refinery which is half the capacity of HRC, what do you think of HRC near future relevance in this market? IN FACT RAIDER SEE PETRONAS IS STUPID TO INVEST RM 66 BILLION IN A REFINERY COMPLEX IN PENGERANG WITH PRODUCTION CAPACITY OF 300K BPD ABOUT 2X HRC CAPACITY LOH....!!

5) broken reinvestment rate?
No dividend issued, means 100% reinvestment for the company. For 6 months ended FY17, HRC already got 121sen. Even if Q3 and Q4 earns peanut, u still got RM6 as the baseline. So you can wait to enter RM6 (i also hope, kikiki). Then Q3 comes =) WARREN BUFFET GREATEST DREAM IS THAT HE CAN INVEST IN A GREAT COMPANY, THAT CAN REINVEST ITS PROFIT AND GROWTH MANY YEARS WITHOUT DIV LOH.! HRC FALL UNDER THIS CATEGORY LOH.

6) broken balance sheet?
Lucky HRC still churning out cash at this crack spread booming period. Also, CA > all liabilities if you look at latest balance sheet. Does HRC cry for money now, as does some cash-hungry companies whose cash flow statement is broken? NO LOH.! THE LATEST SHOWS HRC HOLDS RM 743 MILLION CASH COMPARE TO RM 238M CASH IN Q1, A FINE CASH SPINNER LOH.!
Look at Cash flow for the operating activities. Easily >RM400m for the 6 months ended. OR INVENTORY LOSSESded. Want to see Q3?

7) Inapt management?
This one I will swing a bit. They reported lower admin cost, but their forex skill tak boleh lah. Latest QR 35m gone just because of forex loss. If not still got 48 sen, higher than Alex's 40 sen conservative estimate. WHO CAN AVOID FOREX & inventory LOSSES ? U MAY SHOW LOSSES BUT GOING FWD IT MAY REVERSE MAH...ACTUALLY IS NOT INTELLIGENT TO LOOK AT THIS MATTER...!! LOOK FOR REAL WEALTH DRIVER LIKE SUSTAINED CASHFLOW MAH...!! LIKE WARREN BUFFET ALWAYS ADVOCATE MAH.!!
Correct me if I'm wrong. My forex knowledge quite weak. Got realized, unrealized stuff. Partly also due to ringgit strengthening against USD.

Last but not least u sell because someone in forum tell u limit down and sell. Ok la, sell~ BUT REMEMBER 3iii IS A CONMAN SAYING HRC WORTH RM 3.10 LOH...!! NO WAY SUCH RIDICOLOUS VALUE LOH..!!
23/09/2017 16:37
ooihk899 Ok ma, let them sell lo, hope can collect cheap ma. Kikiki
23/09/2017 16:39
stockraider Posted by supersaiyan3 > Aug 27, 2017 11:27 AM | Report Abuse

Its a damn cyclical, in fact everyone knows, except those SENKALIN writers and naive followers. That's why the price is hovering around RM8 rather than RM20.

Nothing magical about last two quarters of super profit, just inventory. Recent result, back to square one.

Market is right!!

Posted by supersaiyan3 > Aug 27, 2017 11:27 AM | Report Abuse

Its a damn cyclical, in fact everyone knows, except those SENKALIN writers and naive followers. That's why the price is hovering around RM8 rather than RM20.

Nothing magical about last two quarters of super profit, just inventory. Recent result, back to square one.

Market is right!!

Posted by supersaiyan3 > Aug 27, 2017 11:27 AM | Report Abuse

Its a damn cyclical, in fact everyone knows, except those SENKALIN writers and naive followers. That's why the price is hovering around RM8 rather than RM20.

Nothing magical about last two quarters of super profit, just inventory. Recent result, back to square one.

Market is right!!

Qtr … Financial … EPS … DPS
No … Quarter … (Cent) … (Cent)
2 … 30-Jun-17 … 28.1 … 0.00
1 … 31-Mar-17 … 93.2 … 0.00
cul 30-6-17 ... 121.0... 0.0
4 … 31-Dec-16 … 69.3 … 0.00
3 … 30-Sep-16 … -27.0 … 0.00
2 … 30-Jun-16 … 35.6 … 0.00
1 … 31-Mar-16 … 33.9 … 0.00
cul 31-12-16....111.0..0.0
4 … 31-Dec-15 … 32.2 … 0.00
3 … 30-Sep-15 … -50.4 … 0.00
2 … 30-Jun-15 … 107.4 … 0.00
1 … 31-Mar-15 … 28.1 … 0.00
cul 31-12-15... 117.0..0.00

If u look carefully HRC profitable for FYE 2015 & 2016 on quarterly basis u notice in;

FYE 2015 Annual eps of Rm 1.17 ....u will notice q3 2015 HRC make losses eps of Rm 0.50 for the qtr.

FYE 2016 Annual Eps of Rm 1.11....u will notice q3 2016 HRC losses eps 0.27 for the qtr loh...!!

FYE 2017 for 1st half year of eps Rm 1.21...no qtr losses for q1 and q2.

Thus year 2015 and 2016....out of 4 qtr result....3 qtr profitable and 1 qtr losses .

FYE 2017 half yr.....out of 2 qtr results all is profitable...non losses loh...!!

But u can expect 2017 coming Q3 highly profitable and Q4 highly profitable bcos of the high crack spread loh....!!
Hence the q2 result of HRC eps of rm 0.28 consider good mah...!! Bcos it is expected all the 4 qtr for 2017 will be profitable.

Raider revise HRC TP, to long term Rm 15.00 per share, going forward basing on record Eps of Rm 2.42 for 2017....on PE 6.2x.

THUS DO NOT BE TOO WORRIED FOR HRC LOH....USING QTRLY EPS AS A GUIDE HRC HAS SOME VOLATILITY LOH.....!!

HOWEVER ALWAYS LOOK AT THE FREE CASH FLOW OF HRC FOR THE HALF YEAR 2017 IS RM 1.44 PER SHARE, WHICH GENERATED RM 432 MILLION IN FREE CASHFLOW WITHIN 6 MTHS.

THUS OVERALL RESULT IS CONSIDER GOOD FOR HRC LOH...!!

Summarise why HRC consider very good;

1. 6 mths EPS rm 1.21, in addition its cash position has grown exceeding rm 400 million or rm 1.33 cash per share, meaning no joke the profit of HRC is back by quality earnings.
2. Future consider good, strong crack margin exceeding usd 12 bpd, and big potential of reversal of inventory and forex losses of q2 in q3.
3. Still trading at low PE 4x with growth potential and ROE exceeding 60% loh....!!
4. Rerating of PE 4x in line with Petron and Pet Dag valuation loh...!
23/09/2017 16:39
greatwall where is 3iii????????????
never see him the last few days??????
23/09/2017 16:43
probability to all those who had purchased some other stocks....say STEEL stocks for example... thinking it will show spectacular results in Q3...

trust me...you will not be able to hold on to it till the results appear.....just ask yourself sincerely can you really predict its earnings?

(i bet you cant find the above kinda offer from GE, he he)

i sincerely suggest, change boat to refining instead...


(1) remember, Refining business sales volume - the gasoline consumption barrels is as calm and as steady as a river...(unlike lumpy steel consumption)

its growth is as the widening and growth rates of the roads...
its cagr is as good as the toll collection rate..
it rockets as per as the number of flights increase..


(2) and you dont need a refining margin per barrel exceeding 6USD..
how sure you are the margins achieved in other business like Steel?


this is really a WTF investment.
23/09/2017 16:45
stockraider Raider after discussing with sifu senior analyst enclosed herewith my sifu recommendations on HRC;

1. My Sifu says no need to panic after all HRC is undervalue stock with PE 4x or less basing on EPS of Rm 2.00. Should hold out well, even if PNB aggressively dispose loh....!! But if u cannot afford to hold, set defense by selling only, once Rm 8.00 is breached.

2. PNB only sold abit around Rm 8.30 level less than 1,000k share, look like, they also know good the value of HRC loh...!! They will only dispose slowly on way up to maximise return loh...!! So do not expect it to aggressively sale loh..!!

3.Some of call warrant investment bankers, may decide to buy more HRC to hedge ,thus this will give good buy support for HRC loh.!!

4. HRC is expected super record earnings in 2017 with eps exceeding rm 3.00 compare to the previous eps historical record of rm 1.74 in 2005. In 2005 the price range of HRC is Rm 8.50 to Rm 12.30 mah..!!
Today HRC price is only Rm 8.11, and with EPS exceeding Rm 3.00, thus should be able to support current share price & even got chance to appreciate over & above rm 12.30 in short term loh...!!

5. The crack margin now is usd 12.80 per barrel compare to 2005 crack margin historical record of USD 7.50 per barrel, this will ensure sustainable growth is eps of HRC loh....!!

6. Before PNB soldown, there is a substantial increase in volume, indicating alot of interest in HRC, thus should be able to absord good amount of selling pressure.

7. q3 there is expected inventory gain close to Rm 100 million, that will lend support to its share price mah..!!

Conclusion

Raider senior analyst say best strategy is to hold tight and monitor the Q3 result in 2 mths time , which expected to be very good loh, do not be afraid of PNB selling bcos it is just a temporary noises loh...!!

Go for longer term investment raider's sifu senior analyst advice, bcos u cannot find such a good performance company, like hrc trading at undemanding low prices currently loh...!!

Btw HRC has high roe, strong earnings growth, good cashflow, low PE the potential for strong share price rerating very high loh..!!

Good Luck !! Cheers !
23/09/2017 16:59
stockraider Posted by 3iii > Aug 21, 2017 10:42 PM | Report Abuse

Hengyuan is a speculative stock. Cyclical. Capital intensive. Commodity pricing of its products.

Speculate if you must. In between quarterly results, all postings here are noises.

AGAIN THIS 3iii COME AND TALKCOCK LOH.....!!
A STOCK LIKE HRC PE 4X EPS JUST 1 QTR AT RM 0.93 RESULT ALMOST BEAT PET DAG PE 24X I YR EARNINGS U CALL EAT SPECULATIVE AH ???

3iii VERY DISHONEST...LOH....Want to SPREAD FALSE INFO TO BUY HRC CHEAP LOH...!!

Raider senior analyst say best strategy is to hold tight and monitor the Q3 result in 2 mths time , which expected to be very good loh, do not be afraid of PNB selling bcos it is just a temporary noises loh...!!

Go for longer term investment raider's sifu senior analyst advice, bcos u cannot find such a good performance company, like hrc trading at undemanding low prices currently loh...!!

Btw HRC has high roe, strong earnings growth, good cashflow, low PE the potential for strong share price rerating very high loh..!!

At Rm 8.11 it offer very good entry prices mah....!!
23/09/2017 17:03
probability aiyo...komodo dragon all out attack HY lor...
what kind of stupid argument is this leh..
why the buta never see when it was 4 leh...or 2 leh?
aiyoo ammaa...kikiki

Posted by dragonslayer > Sep 23, 2017 05:03 PM | Report Abuse

Aiyo....cakap all so good...why pe so low leh...if gem lai aeh...all buta investors tak nampak meh...wakakaka...kikiki
23/09/2017 17:06
stockraider No one can predict when great market crash will come, but if u cry wolf many time, surely one day it will come loh....!!

Our local warlann TTB of Icap had been predicting market crash, mkt crash since 2010....now 2017 also no crash loh...!!
Since he is preparing for crash he kept more than 60% cash for the dooms days loh....!!

This local warlann miss alot of opportunity loh....!!
In fact mkt composite is around 1560 in 2011, compare with the index now 1776,in fact he would have done well, just systematically investing in the stock market alone dumb dumb, even without considering his skill of stock picking loh..!!

Btw the local warlann is a good stock picker...he pick good stock like vitrox, wellcall when it is a penny stock etc, but the problem, is that he time the mkt badly loh....!!
In addition his other sin is he sell his winners and keep his losers loh...!!

Ben Graham and Warren Buffet suggested investors not to time the market when investing, always invest basing on finding good margin of safety fundamental stock and or growth stock with good prospect without looking at the state of the mkt or timing.

The day u cannot find anymore good stock to invest basing on your margin of safety formula, that means mkt is overvalue loh....!!
Overvalue is measure as an automatic value mechanism & not a mkt timing mechanism loh....!! (Mr Value not Mr Mkt}

Coming back to mkt crash, one day it will come...if u fear don fully invest loh....raider suggest u invest upto max 80% and balance keep liquid in instrument loh...!!

But don under invest bcos long run equity always win loh..!!....raider suggest u keep min 50% in equity loh...!!

HENGYUAN IS THE BEST STOCK TO INVEST FOR THE LONG HAUL WITH GREAT MARGIN OF SAFETY TOO , DON MISS THIS IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY LOH...!!

JUST BUY AT Rm 8.11 B4 TOO LATE LOH....!!
23/09/2017 17:07
stockraider Coming back to icap in 2010, if icap worry & freeze about mkt crash...then icap would not had pick & buy Hengyuan at that time which trade at an overvalue Rm 10.40 to Rm 11.00 at pe 35x loh......!!

Thus icap is right not buying into HRC, which is overvalue in 2010, thus avoided major embrrassment unlike EPF, but icap was wrong not investing in other undervalue and growth prospect companies at that time, when there are plenty of good picks loh...!!

The point raider highlight here is..why 2010 Shell deserve PE 30x when its EPS is only Rm 0.35 leh ??
This PE 30x in 2010 is even higher than Pet DAG overvalue Pe 24x today loh..!!

Then why mkt fear in 2017 & say HRC overvalue today when it trade at only PE 4x with Eps of Rm 2.00 today leh ???

Why within a short period of 7 years the valuation of Hengyuan can swing for PE 30x to PE 2x(the price that kyy buy) leh ??

The answer is Mr Market mood is unpredictable & changes very fast loh..!!
U need to understand the business prospect and the value of business b4 u can take advantage mah....!!

Thats why u must have business sense & know how to value business b4 can be successful loh...!!

A good investors make big monies not only from buying into undervaluation, but they also benefit alot from upward rerating of stock, when the stock showed good performance loh...!!

Is HRC same like China redchips like Xinguan leh ?
Answer : No

HRC is Shelll Refinery....all its operations in Msia...a big chunked of its directors and employees are malaysian loh...!!
Its account are in msia, they cannot run away taking the refinery back to china mah...!!

Chinaman tookover is just substitute Dutch Owner with China Owner loh..!!

In fact china man leadership is more efficient than kwailoh...bcos kwailoh mentality just simply spend ur monies, but chinaman know how to save & enterprising loh, just like ur great granfather from china come to Msia know how to save & enterprising mah, thats why very successful loh...!! Thats why Hengyuan showed good profit mah...!!

Then why Redchips in Msia failed leh ?
Ans : It fail bcos it is a conman scheme to begin with...the chinaman list in msia a holding Co...but all its assets, business and accounts is kept in china loh...!!
The chinaman just take ur monies from listing and don follow the rules, nothing much u can do loh...bcos all its assets in china...u cannot touch them mah...!!
In other words is like a conman scheme like Geneva Gold loh...!!
If u buy into conman scheme u bound to lose loh...!!
23/09/2017 17:10
probability me no promote leh...me only expressing frsutration leh...very very upset "immense" frustration leh...
23/09/2017 17:11
probability we dont care if people think this is a con company or not leh..
firstly if they are still not capable of understanding this company despite so much of elaboration...then they dont deserve it and never will lor..

hopefully this willl capture intelligent investors with deep pocket leh..not sohai leh...even superinvestors not fit for HY leh...suspect he sold all...kikiki

Posted by dragonslayer > Sep 23, 2017 05:11 PM | Report Abuse

Aiyo...the more you all promote...the more buta investors think this is a con company lor...think logically it is like this type of feeling lor...why leh...cos ..buta investors kena conned many times elsewhere lor....wakakaka...kikiki
23/09/2017 17:15
stockraider HRC is poised to surge much stronger later with very Strong momentum volume.

But what I like most are :
1. Strong earnings half yr eps Rm 1.21 and consistent FCF
2. Debt paying down fast with strong earnings
3. Business growing with good strategy tremendously Q2 sale up 40%
4. Proven quality management
5. No Dividend payout (HY reinvesting on high growth loh)
6. Earnings consistently but being explosive lately
7. Backed by established by Experience cost efficient china Co
8. Forward P/E of 3x
9.Earnings Growth 100% lately.
10. Free cashflow half year improve to rm 1.44 per share.

MOST IMPORTANTLY CATCH THIS STOCK WHEN IT HAS ALOT OF SCEPTICISM, TRADING AT HIGH MARGIN OF SAFETY LOH...!!
23/09/2017 17:15
probability we dont want investors to invest based on psychology leh...if like that we would not have bothered to present business fundamentals ma...we coould have kept talking about management la....this man la....that man la...etc...

does it really matter if its raider or me or OTB that states it?
what matters is the fact ma...

only facts.
23/09/2017 17:19
probability what is high price?

this is what we call speculation leh...telling something high...and something low..without any numbers...

Posted by dragonslayer > Sep 23, 2017 05:18 PM | Report Abuse

Aiyo..if no buta investors buy higher price...how to push up higher price leh...unless operator working behind the scene lor...if like that...better be more careful lor...wakakaka...kikiki
23/09/2017 17:21
probability aiyo..this no logic liao..
how can you say not all facts are on the table...without knowing which facts it is..

pure logics contradiction lor..
no need spm to understand this ma..

how can u say something is not there without knowing what is the something...kikiki

Posted by dragonslayer > Sep 23, 2017 05:22 PM | Report Abuse

Aiyo..facts are facts...but..not all facts were on the tables for buta investors leh...look out for the rest of the facts...wa tak tau apa facts....wa only spm passed nia nia...wa lepak tau only...wakakaka...kiki
23/09/2017 17:25
probability aiyo..of course all actions has vested interests ma...even mother giving milk to child also has vested interest ma...

if cannot believe this ...then what u can believe lor..
how to make u believe lor?

why so much apprehension ma...
no one forced u to buy before asking questions like Annetan ma..

Raider not only answer Miss Annetan ma...surely also komodo dragon ma..kikiki

Posted by dragonslayer > Sep 23, 2017 05:26 PM | Report Abuse

Aiyo...nowdays...hard to believe all the ppl in the forum lah..if no vested interest...who care to promote lor...cakap so much...until cow come home...hang so long banners...scare away all the buta investors lah...aiyoyo...use new method tampok leh...this old method no more applicalble leh...hang banners method...buta investors see liao...run fast fast lah...aiyoyo...kikiki
23/09/2017 17:30
probability this one i partially agree leh...raider i have the same opinion...try to summarize/shorthen the banners...too long andtoo many will make people disinterested to even read...

but raider intention is very good and sincere leh..

Posted by dragonslayer > Sep 23, 2017 05:35 PM | Report Abuse

Aiyo...ya lor...all ada vested interest baru promote lor...me no vested interest at all leh...why I kepoh here leh...cos...one thing lor...tell the promoter...dun hang to many long banners lor...see also muak liao...all recycled banners...scare away buta investors lor....wakakaka...my sincere input for this forum...the more buta investors see the banners...they think this is a con company lor....wakakaka...kikiki
23/09/2017 17:38
88888888 raider sifu, what software u use to analyse TA ?
23/09/2017 18:18
ooihk899 Probability sifu, stockraider sifu, thanks you very much.
I think both of you can take a good rest now since you had presented a lot of fantastic analysis. So its up to others to decide buy or sell lo.
23/09/2017 18:26
Annetan the movement of hengyuan is rather volatile not like petronm which is rather steady.the fact that its now a chinese company,people's perception dont change overnight as many probably were burnt before by many chinese companies listed here especially xinquan which shows consistent high eps with plenty of cash for so many quarters.the confidence and trust are not so easily restored.hence the fear factor will still be there despite the facts and figures shown so far and the points highlighted by stockraider.only price over time will tell.as for me,i still want to manage the risks of what if... thanks again for the relentless effort put in by all the sifus who has indepth knowledge in this stock/inddustry.
23/09/2017 18:30
musangfoxking do have a look at serbdk, OUTPERFORM in the Edge!!!! a medium term investment counter!!!! disclaimer: trade at your own risk
23/09/2017 18:35
Annetan perhaps movement of the price or the price alone would not be this had it remained as shell.just like transmile would not have burnt so many well informed investors had robert kuok not holding any stake earlier.people invested in transmile partly the trust and confidence they had in robert kuok alone.
23/09/2017 18:36
moneypedia Ermmm, day by day by day, very long analysis in here..
23/09/2017 20:24
kmwong8711 What happens to hengyuan if war broke.out?
23/09/2017 22:52
ooihk899 Which war???
23/09/2017 23:06
kmwong8711 Us n n korea
23/09/2017 23:15
probability I had underestimated Mr.Koon...he had some interest on Refined Products earlier, quite a smart idea actually:

Time for a switch?

We can save RM12 billion per year if we use more diesel vehicles
by Koon Yew Yin

https://aliran.com/archives/monthly/2005b/7h.html

https://www.tititudorancea.com/z/ies_malaysia_total_oil_petroleum_products_consumption.htm
23/09/2017 23:17
gohku Dear sifu Raider,

Your posting today is very useful, i have learned alot from your advice.

The information you have given on Hengyuan is very useful and you have imparted some very important investment knowledge, that i think, can never learn without your many years of experience in stock investment.

I had read many good investment & trading books,but nothing can compare to the practical approach, you have guided me on analysing, managing and investment in good stocks.

I hope sifu can continue your good work. I am very grateful for your kind effort and wish you the best.

Cheers.
23/09/2017 23:19
probability From the chart above, we can see its approximately 130 k bpd refined products needed every 5 years. Thats exactly like an HRC refinery needed every 5 years.

hmm...volumetric throughput growth potential of 20% per annum (CAGR).

No wonder PETRONM wants to invest in a 6.5B refinery with about the same capacity.
24/09/2017 00:01

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ugorrkim My place one shopping mall,, inside got one small GOLD Shop,,, staff more than customers but still can operate more than 10years,,, y??
22/09/2017 13:16
pang72 Ooo...
No bankrupt considered ok...
Loss money also ok...
Congrats that you have more than 80% stock in bursa can be invest which are losing money
22/09/2017 13:21
sell Agree. In my home town PohKong staffs more than customers seen as well.
22/09/2017 13:23
ugorrkim U dun like POHKONG y u still in tis forum or u too free or ur mental got problem... Y wasting time put nonsense here... U should go to other forums or go to bank check d FD rate regularly... Dun wasting argue here... U win teori wat u get?? Get oOo
22/09/2017 13:26
sell I never buy gold why so many i3 members got mental problems?
22/09/2017 13:28
pang72 Maybe they bought too many gold bar and don't know where to hide...stress till mental problem
22/09/2017 13:32
pang72 My place one shopping mall, every week pass By ....only one or Non of customer inside...
So , I wonder how can this shop survive?
22/09/2017 13:38
pang72 https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/quote/A78.SI?p=A78.SI
22/09/2017 13:44
ugorrkim Nobody knows how they operate but 14years for POHKONG listed is doing well than other company... Magic Listed Company... Cheers... Add on
22/09/2017 13:45
pang72 Na....see this gold mine company from 1.7 drop to 0.0001sen..

Lets you see a bankrupt gold company because you never see before...
22/09/2017 13:45
ugorrkim So I told u d , u r wasting here..
22/09/2017 13:49
ugorrkim After u give valuable advice,, I think d Singaporean will follow u sell all d POHKONG share,,, Singaporean scare d after heard ur experience
22/09/2017 13:53
pang72 They have knew ...they will sell next week when high price...
22/09/2017 14:00
pang72 Maybe yesterday started selling...drop 4sen
22/09/2017 14:01
ugorrkim Hopefully limit down,, then ppl suffer u happy
22/09/2017 14:05
pang72 No...every one happy because they avoid losses...
22/09/2017 14:33
pang72 No one suffer except you
22/09/2017 14:33
ugorrkim 10Q..
22/09/2017 14:36
pang72 Welcome
22/09/2017 14:52
ugorrkim Post removed. Why?
22/09/2017 14:52
pang72 Please accept comment . This is public forums....
22/09/2017 16:00
pang72 ugorrkim Hopefully limit down,, then ppl suffer u happy
22/09/2017 14:05

MAKE SURE YOUR WISH COME TRUE...IDOIT..URGO
22/09/2017 16:15
luckypunting Lets celebrate POHKONG as a company make good profit. This is a positive news for their employee and shareholder :p
22/09/2017 16:29
yougorkim Post removed. Why?
22/09/2017 16:38
pang72 God bless you who have so bad mount and heart...how to win in long run ...
22/09/2017 16:40
pang72 Haha....
So small heart...how to win ...
Can not accept the true, how to win
22/09/2017 16:42
yougorkim Post removed. Why?
22/09/2017 16:42
yougorkim Post removed. Why?
22/09/2017 16:43
pang72 You do whatever you want ...
You deserve failure
22/09/2017 16:43
pang72 Create la...
22/09/2017 16:43
pang72 You free you just do...
22/09/2017 16:43
pang72 After 1000 account then alert me here..
I don't give a dam
22/09/2017 16:44
yougorkim U report to i3 lo... u suffer I happy go lucky...
22/09/2017 16:45
pang72 Too childish..
Never seen before...
22/09/2017 16:47
yougorkim Post removed. Why?
22/09/2017 16:48
yougorkim Mind ur words..
22/09/2017 16:49
pang72 Don't understand..
22/09/2017 16:54
pang72 Gold price drop is FED decision, it is not from me...
Why so angry !
You call Trump later , settle with him ....
22/09/2017 16:56
yougorkim Post removed. Why?
22/09/2017 16:58
pang72 Hahaha....please check who is Apollo first...
22/09/2017 16:59
pang72 I only bark one person in i3 ...apollo
22/09/2017 16:59
pang72 I did not bark you but explain to you the fact
22/09/2017 17:00
luckypunting http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/poh-kong-4q-net-profit-jumps-more-five-times?type=malaysia
22/09/2017 17:03
FUCKTARDMOSIONGWONG I agree with u,, Mosiong Wong...
22/09/2017 19:54
husky88 Why yeoman so interesting with poh kong?
22/09/2017 20:00
Zhen Wei Gold diggaass yo. Buying 150000 unit.
MOSIOWONG say's BUY
22/09/2017 20:03
FUCKTARDMOSIONGWONG I agree with Mosiong Wong
22/09/2017 20:23
Dex Ter gonna be in rm1 soon,buy before it surge
23/09/2017 19:02
kllady_fidah Not surprise action starts nx WK..awesome results n prospects
23/09/2017 22:32
FUCKTARDMOSIONGWONG GOLD PRICE WILL STAY HIGH TIS TWO YEARS,, IRAN & NK MISILLE TEST WILL CAUSE UNSTABLE IN D MARKET
24/09/2017 00:01

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Alex Foo thx calvin. always glad to see you share stuff =)
23/09/2017 13:11
Alex Foo much to learn
23/09/2017 13:11
VenFx Good summary on how our hard earn money depreciated ...
Anything above 12% wealthy monies.
Anything below 6% no gain no lost in Bolehland .
23/09/2017 13:24
shortinvestor77 good food for thought.
23/09/2017 22:56
newbie92 Si fu calvin, how about bjtoto?
TQ.
23/09/2017 23:01
calvintaneng Newbie,

I don't like gambling. I think Bj Toto will make money at the expense of foolish gamblers.
Gambling will cause lots of trouble for stupid people.

I think better way to earn monies is to operate Starbuck coffee, 7 Eleven, U Mobile are other businesses that are good for people.

And best of all is TSVT very small to buy lots of undervalue assets in prime locations while cheap. THESE ASSETS ARE NOW OF IMMENSE VALUE TODAY IF SOLD IN OPEN MARKET
23/09/2017 23:17
calvintaneng Should read as

TSVT very Smart
23/09/2017 23:17
gohku Uncle Calvin,

Your comment is very correct, i have been working very hard for a few years and had been saving up regularly,in order to build up my capital.

I had started stock investment, for a few years but my must result had been very erratic. Only after i had read intelligent investors, i did manage to improve my investment skill and this had contributed to a higher investment return.

But this year is my greatest lucky break and a big fat bonus for me, because i manage to follow stockraider, picking Hengyuan at rm 2.00 in the beginning of this year and this investment had yielded me 300% within 9 months.

I can say this gain is my greatest return and i believe this will not be repeated for a long time.

I have to lower my return target to 10% to 15% pa to avoid over expectation and taking high risk.I think the current target return is fairly possible.

My uncle use to tell me that, when you are young you must work very hard to make a good living & must grew your nest egg through savings, which i think his advice is very true.

When we grew older the nest egg will grow bigger, then we can depend on our savings and investment to grow our wealth.

For young people wealth are mainly build up from employment income savings, but with good investment skill, we can accelerate our wealth accumulation faster.
23/09/2017 23:52

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hng33 sold back all Gadang at 1.25, lock all profit, free up capital
14/09/2017 11:02
Newplayer286 Hng33, i also hesitating to sell
14/09/2017 13:44
Dylan Yong Hua Tai I also want to sell...
14/09/2017 15:17
jasmineemans must check for new updates: bursa-malaysia-stock-news.blogspot.com
14/09/2017 15:19
keke wah, u guys haven't sell ah?
14/09/2017 15:56
smartly sold at 1.25 as well
14/09/2017 15:57
Patrick13 TRC secured another RM348.3m MRT jobs again.
14/09/2017 16:11
kancs3118 Kanneh....when will Gadangwon the MRT and LRT 3 project again ?
14/09/2017 16:51
keke Gadang aim chun chun one mah, no big meat no take one. now they have so much project in hand, can be choosy mah.
14/09/2017 17:01
yakuza gadang is good choice for long term as in many projects are coming.
14/09/2017 17:25
Collin Soo The price movement is between 1.2 - 1.30 since March at most of the time. Hope the consolidation mode will be end soon.
14/09/2017 18:02
tksw kakaka, told you hng sifu is a fast hand sifu.
14/09/2017 19:13
didi2005 hng sifu is contra kaki~~~haha
14/09/2017 19:18
JN88 Hng33 sifu.... Buy 1.22 sell 1.25?
14/09/2017 20:57
wolf1 ding dong play for 8 to 10sen profit lah...1.20++ sell 1.30++ play this range. Profit few rounds
14/09/2017 21:07
hng33 hahaha, 4 sen gross margin, with more than 3 sen nett profit per share also good mah! volume is a key lolll


hng33 bought gadang at 1.21
07/09/2017 15:03

hng33 sold back all Gadang at 1.25, lock all profit, free up capital
14/09/2017 11:02
15/09/2017 09:22
cg123 hng33.. You're right to take profit and cabut, there are much better counters than this, 2b outstanding order book and share price regressing, my suggestion is don't support this counter.
15/09/2017 13:20
tksw wait la,,, hng sifu will support at lower price.
15/09/2017 18:27
Patrick13 http://www.enanyang.my/news/20170915/%E5%8F%91%E5%B1%95%E5%BC%80%E9%94%80%E4%B8%8A%E7%9C%8B500%E4%BA%BFbr-%E9%A2%84%E7%AE%97%E6%A1%88%E7%85%A7%E4%BA%AE%E5%BB%BA%E7%AD%91%E8%82%A1/
16/09/2017 09:42
Patrick13 RM10 billion LRT2 project package now pusing to be distributed at the beginning Oct. Let's see how!
16/09/2017 09:44
cg123 even win price will not move, so what to see, jump ship la
16/09/2017 09:57
Larrytrader Will sell 2000 shares if goes to 1.27 now to invest in forex market.Remaining 6000 shares will hold.
16/09/2017 17:59
cg123 As expected, can't sustain.. Not for mid/long term
19/09/2017 13:24
Patrick13 Wait for any update for the LRT3 package first. Be patient.
19/09/2017 14:10
keke 122 also got, die liao la this time.
19/09/2017 16:51
hng33 bought back gadang at 1.22
19/09/2017 16:53
tksw kakaka, told you hng33 sifu will be back
19/09/2017 16:57
Larrytrader Good for you
19/09/2017 16:57
tksw keke sifu, I sold 125 to 127 last 3 days... this Gadang veli pai-si, wanna kick all the short-term players out
19/09/2017 16:58
keke jilakak, this hng33 sifu so fast hand, wei give some chansy for other to deng la.
19/09/2017 16:59
tksw a lot ppl scared steell price up will affect Gadang profit. but hor... they already built in high margin when they tender the project. Remember Kok Onn said no good margin they dun tender. and hor, big chunk of Gadang order book is new project, all the price hike has been taken into consideration.
19/09/2017 17:00
Dylan Yong Hua Tai steel price up.... but they always having way to maintain profit...just like you go kopitiam drink Kopi-o ... price maintain but change to smaller cup only.
19/09/2017 17:09
Patrick13 Steel price up might affect construction profit margin, but their tender margin is so high. Shldn't much affected.
Somemore, power concession division shall begin to contribute profit from 2018 onwards.
Plantation division already disposed to avoid further losses.
Definitely Gadang is undervalued counter all the way.
19/09/2017 17:13
tksw Now, only got 2 Rapid project which will see possible profit margin down, but hor, look at the last Qtr report, the project is still veli profitable, so the impact shouldn't be great.

As for Capital 21, Gadang dun have to bear the cost... just sit there and waiting for payment to come in. The best part is, the rise of the stell price, will make those projects that has been started looks cheaper than the future one...

House prices wont go down cos nobody wanna build to sell at a loss
19/09/2017 17:22
Patrick13 YTD, Gadang already won RM1.75b contracts and RM860m development projects in GDV.
I believe it shall be sufficient to maintain next 3-4 years bottom line.
Even not talking about Capital 21 project and utility division performance yet.
It would be good that current share price is still hovering within this range, it can let value investors to accumulate more and more.
We just need to be more patient.
19/09/2017 19:49
ck77 bottom line will tell everythings. just wait and see on next month
19/09/2017 22:22
sosfinance Accumulate @ 123. With or without new projects. Very low compared with peers & sector PE. If you can wait for FD, one year interest of 3.90%, treat it like an FD, likely you will exceed that. DY is 2.4%, likely to be >10% with low risk.
20/09/2017 10:18
isupertrader Agreed with sosfinance. Got money, just accumulate now. Gadang is one of the best company for mid to long term investment.
20/09/2017 10:38
hng33 sold back all gadang at 1.25 again,lock all contra profit, free up capital
20/09/2017 16:39
hellolee what happened to this counter :(
21/09/2017 15:22
Aseng Year : 2013 - 2017 
Revenue :356,466/544,946,/ 587,398,/ 701,305,/ 544806 

NP: 20663/44378/60781/99449/ 100668 

Cash: 
134005/145557/232777/ 294212/262086 

Borrowing: 
83009 /144105 /193093 / 221368 /188235 

FCF 
93289. I /-47098. /81108 / -3475 / 39260

DIV: 0.03 /0.04/0.05/0.06/0.07 /
0.075
21/09/2017 17:30
tksw hellolee sifu, all because of hng sifu la...
21/09/2017 18:38
didi2005 Gadang up down due to hng33 buy sell...haha
21/09/2017 20:35
Patrick13 oh no..hng33 只手遮天?
21/09/2017 20:46
Her Sin hng33 yesterday just bought hiaptek, i hope hiaptek can be up too!!
22/09/2017 08:53
Aseng Charlie Munger quotes

"The big money is not made in the buying and the selling, but in the waiting"
22/09/2017 12:33
Aseng I followed Hng33 way to trade, he buy i buy , he sell i sell , but I noticed it is just a smart gambler's game nothing big

why ?

1. I can't keep my money in the market to generate more cash for me while I am chatting with you or enjoying the spa

2. 1 big gain is many times bigger than the sum of many many small gains

3. risk is high because you are buying at the down trend but hng33 very clever , all the stock he had chosen are those that has strong catalyst to bounce back.

4. must bet with a big amount , if not , the gain is too insignificant

Conclusion : it is better for you to play in the game you can play well
22/09/2017 12:53
Aseng come back 3 years later you will see those who trade in this manner are still not richer than you

don't believe ?

divide your money into 2 portion

1 portion put in gadang for 3 years

1 portion you trade like hng33,

3 years later come back here to scold yourself so stupid to have followed him blindly

think seriously .....

1. why hng33 want to tell you buy when he have bought

2. why he shared all the good news when he has bought , but all the bad new when he want to buy a good stock

3. why he want to tell you when he had sold ?

conclusion : do not follow blindly
22/09/2017 13:01
sosfinance Good biz, good management + good price. And Good luck.
23/09/2017 16:21
Ricky Kiat dumb dumb hold...cheers..
23/09/2017 16:39

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sitia Jilohuat, many have tasted the fruit that appeared to them right the moments they put their money on the right "betting stock". Because of this, they feel Stock Market helps them to win more money than buying properties.

In fact properties are biggest scams in the whole market investment system. Visible housing itself does not caused that much but price been hiked so much from the house due to the unseen we called housing value price. More and more high rise properties scattered all over KL. Do they demand exceed supply? 900sqf can cost you 900k. What the heck? If this is not money scams from the developers, what do you called this?

We borrowed money from bankers only to help bankers making money 2 x book value of the house we invested. I heard now is 3 x. Our loan tenure drag as long as till 40 years. Could you believed it??? With a group of house fryers out there, we are totally put at no stand.
16/09/2017 18:48
meistsk3134 Najib gonna announce important something today. Stay tune. Election coming news then prepare start drop
17/09/2017 11:32
meistsk3134 Ok useless announcement. Taib back bn
17/09/2017 19:03
clinton1984 haha.. wasting time waiting for the announcement..
17/09/2017 19:58
Money 3134, I very like all ur negative comments .....good
17/09/2017 20:21
Yippy68 @3134, no election, no need to ^^ prepare start drop^^la? berita baik
17/09/2017 23:00
yingchai 1.22 d... hooray.....drop drop drop....let it drop......
18/09/2017 17:21
maxlee0508 U win lor.... yingchai
18/09/2017 18:03
Woody Not win yet, he still needs to wait desperately till 1.05. :D
18/09/2017 23:40
maxlee0508 Hehe... im in iwcity forum oso got 1 ppl always said will reach 1.05 oso... same same number... i think is lucky number in stock market.. hahaha
19/09/2017 09:22
maxlee0508 Ying chai dun shoot me ya... im not laugh u... just surprise y in different forum can c d same number wif different counter.. funny
19/09/2017 09:24
RedEagle Volume
19/09/2017 15:32
RedEagle Coming
19/09/2017 15:33
hero666 Go and check the vol range, all is between 100-9900 shares, retailer. All is small buy in la fren, vol in dont make jokes la ...coming....slow2 wait la....... coming lolz
19/09/2017 16:05
yingchai coming your head la....BB alr left this counter with profit....only ikan bilis wanna buy this counter. As i said, 1.05 is my entry price for this stock......
19/09/2017 17:40
10bagger10 If mbsb no impairmens later,at 1.23 how m6ch duvidend yield can we expecr?
20/09/2017 07:19
10bagger10 If no impairmend what would eps andpe bw?
20/09/2017 07:28
10bagger10 If mbsb got banking licence, how much share price can be? Go compare with other bank!
20/09/2017 08:39
netx 1.23 if broken then 1.10

if stand above 1.25 then1.35
20/09/2017 09:37
yingchai 1.05 is the entry price, the intrinsic value of this stock is worth 1.05......Why pay more?????
20/09/2017 09:49
10bagger10 My everage price about rm1.
20/09/2017 10:27
yingchai average RM1 not too bad... Those unethical investors keep on telling ppl to buy at 1.23 which is very high price...Please mark my word, why pay more? 1.05 is the max for this stock...
20/09/2017 12:24
netx yingchai:
20/09/2017 15:38
netx take a look this stock

yingchai

target price1.05
20/09/2017 15:39
Sehat Other counters, people wish to move up. But this counter people wish to move down. So funny
20/09/2017 17:11
meistsk3134 Actually in their heart hope it will up. Sehat think bout it. Human have different attitude. Someone like serious in forum some not. It same as me, why need serious here, mbsb keep laosai pregghh pregghhh poop. Never give good performance even have good income
20/09/2017 17:21
Bulat Hahaha may be they mean want the share up but never up with push down the price, head already heat. Like that mr. Trump also don want to invest lol
20/09/2017 17:32
Bulat Arha Cal china man to buy
20/09/2017 17:35
Bulat If you kaw kaw Chen no pong chan Ghostbusters also run away
20/09/2017 17:39
Saifuddin Forget what yingcai said. He 1 share also don't buy. Price will go up to 5.01 when you see bank mbsb signboards up
20/09/2017 18:08
meistsk3134 up or down it depend future how mbsb dealing
20/09/2017 18:17
AKUMAUKAYA Relak..... think long term.....this yingyang guy is playing psychology....jangan risau...EPF is the backbone....kalo 1.05, lagi bagus, can sapu more..... orang bodoh baru menyalak.....
20/09/2017 21:23
Bulat Hahaha only this forum very funny when the share was up got people unhappy and going down also got people be unhappy
20/09/2017 22:55
yingchai share drop is benefit for all of us.... Lets pray that the share price drop so that we can sapu and wait for it to fly skyhigh......
21/09/2017 08:30
AKUMAUKAYA Correct Correct Correct Huat Ahhhhhhhhh
21/09/2017 10:11
meistsk3134 Thou buy high will angry curse.. thou not yet buy wait 1.05 will happy.
21/09/2017 10:11
Bulat Seem like in genting you bet player bet banker. When I bet player you bet banker. But I thing is seem is calling picture
21/09/2017 10:24
Bulat When bet with bj
21/09/2017 10:26
hero666 http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/mbsbs-conventional-loans-be-converted-says-ceo

"Zaini expects the merger with AFB to be completed by year-end. The details are expected to be disclosed after a formal agreement is inked."

Bet................. wahahahahahahha.....wait till end of the year la.........slow-slow wait la ha
21/09/2017 14:49
RedEagle Announcement?
21/09/2017 17:25
sitia If government said the merger will be completed, what is the worry now?
21/09/2017 21:01
L19th End of the year = 3 months to go, very fast :)
22/09/2017 01:48
meistsk3134 today market close or open?
22/09/2017 07:48
Bulat Hahaha as long as the share will up more important lol
22/09/2017 07:48
Bulat Estopper down lol
22/09/2017 07:50
Force Not so easy, few year to go for merger la..
22/09/2017 07:50
Bulat Ya lol may may merger with maybank or bank Megara malaysia hoh. Hahaha
22/09/2017 12:30
RedEagle Easy..because AFB small..go and check annual report and quarterly report.. MBSB rich of cash and bank assets.. Small matter to acquired AFB..
22/09/2017 21:41
RedEagle Go HQ MBSB or AFB and stalk..ask staff what their big boss doing now.. Dun ask top level..ask their clerk office boy.. :)
22/09/2017 21:54
Bulat Is it possible acquired may bank all share balance in the open market
23/09/2017 23:45

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myportfolio son very strong - hope it can go pass 0.45 before QR result
18/08/2017 21:00
wanghing81 when the result came out?
21/08/2017 10:15
pro888 UOB T/P 2.09
21/08/2017 15:57
Solo sure die..
Director sell so much..
21/08/2017 17:43
Kelven Lari before its too late,down trending in no time
21/08/2017 17:45
22/08/2017 18:10
myportfolio CEO Azizan eat up Deputy Ceo Dato Ow shares..
22/08/2017 20:32
hewiester http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/gabungan-aqrs-ceo-ups-stake-majority-shareholder
22/08/2017 20:33
TheRock Stay tune on the qtr result, the progressive payment of land disposal still on going until 3rd qtr.
You may refer to gadang announcement. Final payment was on 11 Aug.
22/08/2017 23:48
kidsplay haha, 5 lot on 1.71
23/08/2017 16:57
Lee Yih Yeong wow..good result
24/08/2017 17:27
myportfolio hmmmmm......... construction bookorders exceed 1.7b
24/08/2017 17:46
kidsplay ok la...feel normal.
24/08/2017 17:47
myportfolio last QTR - was super strong. This qtr is okay...
24/08/2017 17:53
myportfolio any idea.. will gap down tmrw? whats the current market value for this stock?
24/08/2017 17:54
kidsplay no comment....but by technical..it is super overbought. haha...
24/08/2017 18:04
pro888 Contruction stock normally judge by order book.
24/08/2017 21:12
adamdacutie Qr is less important nw that it cn benifit a whole lot from ecrl
24/08/2017 21:22
myportfolio Yeah.. the very bright and good prospect of GBGAQRS are the orderbooks
24/08/2017 21:59
pro888 I think it will be side way cz by different judge currently
25/08/2017 08:35
tksw aiyo! I panic sell this morning, it doesn't drop; up back instead. Loss die me.
25/08/2017 09:41
tksw oiyo! 171 liao, loss die me!!! How come no go down one????
25/08/2017 12:19
adamdacutie From gadang to gabungan tksw
25/08/2017 13:11
kheeliam You wait long long if you want gap down, read carefully the report .... It will up soon, later you can't sleep well these few days, haha
25/08/2017 15:23
TMMC @kheeliam...which part of the report that we need to read carefully ? :p
25/08/2017 16:12
kheeliam @TMMC. are you and tksw is the same person??? I noticed same guy using different ID...not understand why need to do this.. anyway, if you don't know how to read the report, just don't hold it and sell fast...
25/08/2017 16:24
TMMC hahaha...def not the same person. i am a strong supporter for this counter.
25/08/2017 16:29
kheeliam Good.. but my advice is if you not have holding power, it is good that not to hold it and better focus on other counter, we cannot sure the exact date when it will up.
25/08/2017 16:53
TMMC thanks for the advise !
25/08/2017 17:10
hnf202 Big disposed today. Any idea?
25/08/2017 22:23
bobthevalueman very very good performance so far after new mgmt taken over.
27/08/2017 14:21
kidsplay ng kee lean keep dispose, any idea why?
06/09/2017 18:24
kenz88 TOMORO WILL BE SPIKE
07/09/2017 17:21
kenz88 long marubozu and breakout,,
07/09/2017 17:22
Jojetz KUALA LUMPUR (Sept 7): Gabungan AQRS Bhd's wholly-owned property development unit, AQRS The Building Co Sdn Bhd (AQRS-TBC), has been served with a letter of demand for the full outstanding payment of RM50.46 million to Lien Hoe Corp Bhd, after the company allegedly defaulted on its payment schedule.
07/09/2017 19:51
kenz88 shit,,,why suspended
08/09/2017 09:03
hnf202 demmm suspended
08/09/2017 09:08
kenz88 The Board of Directors of Gabungan AQRS Berhad ("the Company"), wishes to announce that AQRS The Building Company Sdn. Bhd. ("AQRSTB"), a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Company has received a letter of demand dated 7 September 2017 ("Letter of Demand") from the solicitors of Pro-Meridian Sdn. Bhd. ("Pro-Meridian"), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Lien Hoe Corporation Berhad. Upon perusing the Letter of Demand the Board of Directors of the Company is of the firm opinion that the claim as set out in the Letter of Demand is premature and misconceived.
08/09/2017 09:25
kenz88 the claim as set out in the Letter of Demand is premature and misconceived.
08/09/2017 09:26
kenz88 what you all think???
08/09/2017 09:26
tksw die lor die lor
08/09/2017 11:15
kidsplay RCE hanging at high price too long. no good.
08/09/2017 11:59
jc8888 is outstanding payment.......
08/09/2017 14:35
jc8888 feel like over acting
08/09/2017 14:37
bobthevalueman train is coming in. surely go
11/09/2017 21:28
Aizai http://cj.sharesinv.com/20170918/50433/
19/09/2017 06:10
azman Aizai...translation pls. All i knew is maybe the tp is 2.09.
19/09/2017 12:58
luckyman Why its trade receivables are so bloody high? Is this company facing collection problems???
Any cash flow problem?? Can pay its trade creditors promptly?......
Why its major shareholders have been selling despite reporting good profits????..
Got profit but no cash flow coming in??? The profit was real or not??

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/annchsh/5226.jsp
23/09/2017 22:07
ikhwan77 Letter of Demand withdrew
23/09/2017 23:33
ikhwan77 http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Company-Announcement.aspx?id=1001400
23/09/2017 23:33

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kun1971kun @bulldog why sell@0.135
You said want to start invest in long term?????
30/08/2017 22:44
steven69 people no confident with asiabio because they dont have actual business. so always drop
31/08/2017 12:10
kun1971kun Can anyone help?
1. How long will it take to confirm proposal dilulus atau tidak
2. Icps dilulus nortmally make the price up or down?
3. Any company that proposals icps for my reference
I try to search but failed
31/08/2017 16:51
Jolin Lai Chi Pet Icps will be very good, it will make the stocks fly high...........i guess asiabio will hit 30 cents soon.
31/08/2017 16:56
kun1971kun @jolin can share any link?????TQ
31/08/2017 17:05
baskoro1965 U need instution buying to push price up,but now insvestors staying sideline waiting electiom results so another 6month wont be any movement in price,may be drop to 12cents
01/09/2017 09:19
baskoro1965 Any one bought vsolar wa? Going to goreng
05/09/2017 19:53
kun1971kun This counter possible to give dividen ?
06/09/2017 11:13
kun1971kun Oops sorry to ask that
I think impossible because propose right issue to collect money.
06/09/2017 11:16
baskoro1965 B4 always nett loss price go up now 39m profit price drop. Con game.beware asiabio trap
06/09/2017 20:16
abang_misai This one kena tembak
06/09/2017 20:16
baskoro1965 This stock opposite to fundamentals. Contract up,profit up share price drop to 52week low.
07/09/2017 13:38
Lilylizz still got chance raise up?
08/09/2017 23:15
kun1971kun I hope more share holder come out to discuss:-)
09/09/2017 21:18
Victor Tan It's a waiting game
10/09/2017 22:03
Andy1988 A strong push will happen today based on chart
15/09/2017 08:54
15/09/2017 10:46
kun1971kun See push down or push up
Just kidding because so boring
:-):-):-):-):-):-):-P
15/09/2017 10:50
baskoro1965 Revenue 5m,profit 40m?
15/09/2017 11:07
kun1971kun My friends.....what is yr average price now?
15/09/2017 11:38
Andy1988 Mine? 0.124
15/09/2017 12:45
kun1971kun Wa 0.124 still holding,
If me sold already
15/09/2017 13:51
Andy1988 Becz i plan to wait. I did the same mistake for huaan.
15/09/2017 17:24
kun1971kun You meant huaan you sold too early n it up?
15/09/2017 18:35
Andy1988 Sell at 0.11 but crazily up and got load some at 0.24. Really crazy but manage sell them before drop.
15/09/2017 22:24
kun1971kun Hahaha I hope Asiabio be another huaan.......then I can retire earlier
15/09/2017 23:01
gooman greedy44 Just for sharing....good prospect company with lots of cash in hand.

The Board of Directors of Asia Bioenergy Technologies Berhad (“ABT” or “the Company”) wishes to announce that its wholly-owned subsidiary, Asiabio Capital Sdn. Bhd. has on 15 September 2017 acquired 75,100,000 shares of Mlabs Systems Berhad (“MLABS”), representing 13.16% equity interest in MLABS, via the subscription of the rights and excess shares of MLABS at an issue price of RM0.15 each (“Shares”) for a total cash consideration of RM11,265,000 (“Consideration”). Pursuant to the acquisition, Asiabio Capital Sdn. Bhd. will also be issued 37,550,000 free Warrants B of MLABS.
15/09/2017 21:35
15/09/2017 23:16
kun1971kun As I know Asiabio in invest in Focus, NeXT, Dgb, Vsolar
And now MLABS
any else that I miss????
16/09/2017 09:46
baskoro1965 Nobody want to buy asiabio.but asiabio buy other counter.
16/09/2017 20:08
Andy1988 When time comes it will comes. Can predict about these two weeks
16/09/2017 21:01
kun1971kun Ya recently Asiabio keep busy buy other counters
This is the first-time I bought counter like this
16/09/2017 22:18
kun1971kun @Andy1988 my average price 0.152 .....
16/09/2017 22:20
Andy1988 I bought in 2014, tat time is quite high, i start averge down last year before cons. Almost 3 yrs already but i am still confident this stock is a gem. I might be wrong but i jz take it.
17/09/2017 10:36
kun1971kun You are so patient.
You hold 3 years
I hold 3 months :-)
17/09/2017 10:46
Andy1988 Huaan hold 2 yrs only, this is among the longest. Another one is umwog. My shares all got age one haha
25/08/2017 11:31
Jolin Lai Chi Pet Limit Up anytime.................hold tight!!!!!!!
18/09/2017 08:27
kun1971kun Unpredictable.
Once say up it down
Once think will down it up :-)
Hope everything going well......everyone gain
18/09/2017 13:59
Andy1988 Hopefully, more good news coming in
18/09/2017 13:00
NoEmo If Asiabio is up n MLabs is down, be careful of pump n dump.
18/09/2017 13:04
steven69 Asiabio buy other share must have the future planning for IT , because u can study most they buy it is related with e-wallet or alipay software.
18/09/2017 22:20
kun1971kun Pls keep slow n steadily
19/09/2017 09:29
Yong Fei enter now or?
19/09/2017 11:39
fhis take note of asiabio too...looks like coming
20/09/2017 16:32
tecpower Asia Bioenergy sells entire stake in T7 Global for RM3.65m http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/asia-bioenergy-sells-entire-stake-t7-global-rm365m
21/09/2017 21:26
ideal88 Pursuant to Rule 9.20 of the ACE Market Listing Requirements of Bursa Malaysia Securities Berhad, Asia Bioenergy Technologies Berhad (“ABT” or “the Company”) wishes to announce that as at 19 September 2017, the aggregate value of quoted securities disposed by Asiabio Capital Sdn. Bhd. (“ACSB”), a wholly-owned subsidiaries of the Company, that is principally involved in the investment in marketable securities, that has not been announced for the preceding twelve (12) months has exceeded 5% of ABT’s latest audited consolidated net assets as at 31 March 2017. The details of the investment in the quoted securities are as follows:-




Investments in quoted securities as at 20 September 2017



- Total Cost

63,262,676.60


- Total Book Value

105,802,665.60


- Total Market Value

105,479,090.40


d.

Net profit arising from the sale of quoted securities by ABT Group during the current financial year ending 31 March 2018
(Sales proceeds less investment cost and incidental expenses)

17,122.39
23/09/2017 14:15
ideal88 check this out
23/09/2017 14:15
ideal88 very potential company
23/09/2017 14:16
ideal88 collect some before everyone buying
23/09/2017 14:17
Andy1988 ABT is undeniably a gem.
08/09/2017 09:35
kun1971kun I hope all yr comments are true. :-)
23/09/2017 23:30

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joetay @shortinvestor77,

u also betting that the merger will failed????lol....

the minute i saw ambank falling past 5, i knew the merger has 80% chance to fail.

if banker managed to goreng it to 6, maybe can pass but when the price went lower to below 5, confirm share swap is failed.

so now, just need to sit back, watch am rise back and collect my dues.

the aussies r not that dumb to sell back cheap.
22/08/2017 22:19
shortinvestor77 Yes, joetay.
22/08/2017 23:02
Seng Thye Ng my patient is corecttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt.......lia looooooooooooooooooooooooo
23/08/2017 09:01
prudentinvestor Those who were brave enough and bought at below RM4.80 recently have made some money.
23/08/2017 09:18
888newbie cannot agree on who will be top dog.
23/08/2017 09:26
insulter the deal close already?
23/08/2017 09:52
Seng Thye Ng TP 5.50 - 6.00
not too late to enter again ???????????????????????
23/08/2017 09:54
prudentinvestor It is clear that investors didn't like the proposed merger between RHB Bank and AmBank. Six months ago, RHB and CIMB were at about the same price level. Today CIMB is more than 30% higher.
23/08/2017 10:06
prudentinvestor If total volume today exceeds 2.75 million shares, which looks very likely, it would be the largest volume in over 2 months. Good chance for RHB to go up further.
23/08/2017 15:16
MyInvest Better wait for 1 week... :)
23/08/2017 16:18
Seng Thye Ng important is healhty up....................................no regret to invest this counter .......
wish earn more..............................................
23/08/2017 17:04
masterus A dealer said US Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen’s speech at the Jackson Hole Economic Policy Symposium last week did not provide any clue on the US’s monetary policy outlook.

Meanwhile, it was reported that Hurricane Harvey, which hit southeast Texas, would likely pressure the US dollar further, as damage from the storm may threaten the US economy. Texas's Gulf Coast is home to key oil and gas facilities that make up nearly a third of the US's refinery capability.
28/08/2017 10:41
loyalok EPS for 1H =25 ,dividend =5
29/08/2017 14:18
Seng Thye Ng waaaaa......good Q result.........sad becuase of North Korea
29/08/2017 14:35
Beza Good!
29/08/2017 14:43
prudentinvestor No bank should be trading at a PE of 10. If investors re-rate RHB and decide one day that it should have a PE of say 13, then it will trade at RM6.50.
29/08/2017 14:54
apanama The correction is over and over done...normally last day August trading gap from low to high will be about 10++ ..i am not surprise..tomorrow RHB will GREEN..and also other banks as well..:)..tomorrow Market FBMKLCI will settle about 1768-1773
29/08/2017 17:15
meistsk3134 lel. wait this midnight trump news
29/08/2017 23:22
Lau Choong Ling Dividend 7 sen , how to calculate amount in RM??
05/09/2017 09:20
shortinvestor77 RM 0.07.
05/09/2017 10:46
Lau Choong Ling 0.07 is 70 RM per share??
05/09/2017 13:17
gcke @Lau Chong Ling the following information can help:

1. 7 cents per 1share unit is equivalent to 700 cents or RM7 per 100 units of share.
2.But if you owned 1000 share units then only the dividend received will be RM 70.00.
3. Likewise if you owned 10K units then your dividend will be RM 700.00 :-)))

Cheers,and quite a decent dividend payout on top of the appreciation in share price return.Regards.
05/09/2017 13:24
prudentinvestor Invest in RHB Bank now, you won't go very wrong.
05/09/2017 14:53
meistsk3134 buy ambank better.. too low price
05/09/2017 15:10
shortinvestor77 KUALA LUMPUR: The local banking sector is expected to see its earnings grow 10.6 per cent this year, according to Affin Hwang Capital.

This will ease to a more modest 38 per cent next year before slightly rising 4.1 per cent in 2019, the firm said in a report today.

Affin Hwang Capital said favourable domestic demographic trends (driving consumption and housing needs), ample infrastructure projects in the pipeline and accommodative monetary policy are supportive reasons for the growth in earnings.

“The sector’s overall valuation in 2017 still appears attractive at a 1.35 times price to book value multiple (on a forward basis) against the past 10-year average of 1.6x and the past five-year average of 1.5x,” it added.

Key risks for the sector include new bad loan formation, net interest margin compression, higher funding costs, weaker loan growth and much higher provisions on FRS 9 (financial reporting standards) adoption.

Affin Hwang Capital’s top picks are AMMB Holdings Bhd, Public bank Bhd and Malayan Banking Bhd.

The firm upgraded its rating on AMMB from “hold” to “buy” with a price target of RM5.20 (based on 0.9x P/BV on calendar year 2018). “We believe the recent selling of the stock is unjustified (currently trading at 0.77x P/BV versus the sector at 1.35x), subsequent to the aborted merger plan with RHB Bank Bhd,” it added.
05/09/2017 20:47
shortinvestor77 http://www.klsescreener.com/v2/news/view/276895
05/09/2017 20:55
meistsk3134 it a fake news. election coming. all boosting good news
05/09/2017 21:13
shortinvestor77 Not really. Q3 and other Q results of banks will tell. just like Q2 result.
06/09/2017 13:54
diehardunited I'd rather bet into this stock. Giant in the making! Get ready for the LIMIT UP SOON!
http://klse.i3investor.com/m/blog/warrenbuffet/131824.jsp
10/09/2017 18:43
masterus KUALA LUMPUR: The ringgit is expected to continue to strengthen against the US dollar, with an economist predicting it may even hit RM4 to a US dollar at the end of the year.
The optimism is based on the good growth in trade and the gross domestic product (GDP). The economy achieved a 5.8% growth in April-June.
The Malaysian Reserve quoted Sunway University Business School economics Professor Dr Yeah Kim Leng as saying: “The ringgit has been trading higher these days due to the above-expectations performance of Malaysia’s economy, including the growth in trade and GDP.
“Since we have already reached RM4.19 in early September, I would say that it is possible for the ringgit to reach around RM4.10 to RM4 in December.”
13/09/2017 23:43
shortinvestor77 No favourable catalyst in the short-term ahead, current conditions prevailing…maintain NEUTRAL. We reiterate our NEUTRAL call as we see no change in the prevailing conditions ahead. There is no concrete catalyst and game changer on the horizon and structural and cyclical headwinds are still prevailing such as; (i) moderating economy, (ii) subdued loans growth, and (iii) downward pressure on NIM. We maintain our MARKET PERFORM call for most of the banking stocks in our coverage with the exception of AFFIN, AFG, AMBANK and RHBBANK, which are at OUTPERFORM as at current share prices, we see attractive proposition with a potential total return of more than 10% each.

Source: Kenanga Research - 14 Sept 2017
14/09/2017 09:27
shortinvestor77 For 2QCY17, all the nine (9) banking stocks under our coverage met our expectations. YoY, earnings improved as impairment allowances fell as expected with improvement in asset quality. We also see widening NIMs due to better management in funding costs and better repricing of assets. However, loans growth seemed to be easing. All in, we maintain our NEUTRAL stance on the sector as the prevailing challenges in the economy still remain. As results were mostly in line, we maintain our MARKET PERFORM call for most of the banking stocks in our coverage with the exception of AFFIN (TP: RM3.00), AMBANK (TP: RM5.00), AFG (TP: RM4.15) and RHBBANK (TP: RM5.60) due to their undemanding valuations.
14/09/2017 09:28
shortinvestor77 Resistance from NUBE a key reason for AMMB-RHB merger failure, says Deutsche Bank

Author: moneyKing | Publish Date: 14 Sep 2017, 7:27 PM

Sulhi Azman/theedgemarkets.com

September 14, 2017 17:57 pm MYT



KUALA LUMPUR (Sept 14): Resistance from a trade union was a key reason for the failure of the proposed merger between AMMB Holdings Bhd and RHB Bank Bhd, according to an analyst with Deutsche Bank AG.

“Our visit to the National Union of Bank Employees (NUBE) reinforced our suspicion that staff issues might be a key reason for the merger to be called off,” research analyst Joshua Lee wrote in a report to clients today.

“NUBE was not consulted before the merger discussion announcement and they subsequently sent letters to the central bank, banks involved and the government. The union had two meetings with the banks before the merger was called off,” Lee added, noting that staff cost made up 53.5% and 57% of the total expenses at AMMB and RHB respectively.

Lee said his conversation with three banks — AMMB, Public Bank Bhd and Hong Leong Bank Bhd — and related parties, indicated NUBE has a “material presence” on the country’s banking operations.

He also observed that NUBE has been encouraging its members to upskill in order to stay relevant, and are attempting to unionise outsourced workers.

“That might slow down banks’ digitisation and cost reduction strategies,” Lee said.

Established under the Trade Unions Act 1959, NUBE represents around 20,000 bank employees in Malaysia.

Meanwhile, Lee also commented on Malaysia’s loans growth of 1.8% in the first half of 2017 (1H17), saying it was outpaced by the country’s economic growth of 5.7% in the same period.

“Historically, loan growth trends higher than the gross domestic product,” he said. “Our conversations with corporates indicate that many are using their internal funds for capex purposes, and are not planning major expansion that requires gearing up.”

Going forward, Lee said, “We note that banks are guiding for lumpy corporate loan pick-up in 2H17, especially from large infrastructure projects.”

“However, some corporates that we met are wary of being entangled in the ‘winner's curse’, and are happy to wait by the sidelines, until bidding rationalises,” he said, adding: “Nevertheless, they believe that supply will likely fall behind the demand generated by these infrastructure projects in the years ahead.”

As for the implementation of the new accounting standard, Lee said: “Surprisingly, banks are guiding that the impact of IFRS9 could be muted, with several guiding that there would be no impact to capital, with the likely usage of regulatory reserves.”

“Banks that have not disclosed any IFRS9 guidance have their systems in place and are currently doing back testing,” Lee added.

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/resistance-nube-key-reason-ammbrhb-merger-failure-says-deutsche-bank
14/09/2017 22:23
Seng Thye Ng when can pecah 5.10 ????????????????????????????????????
15/09/2017 11:27
masterus North Korea fires second ballistic missile over Japan
55 minutes ago

People in Seoul watch a news report about the missile launch (15 Sept 2017)Image copyrightAFP
North Korea has fired a ballistic missile across Japan, its second such provocative move in weeks.
South Korea's military said the missile reached an estimated altitude of about 770km (478 miles) and travelled 3,700km before landing in the sea off Hokkaido.
Japan's PM Shinzo Abe said his country would "never tolerate" North Korea's dangerous actions.
"If North Korea continues to walk down this path, it has no bright future," he said in a statement.
15/09/2017 11:55
goldentriangle North Korea fires another missile, less than 2 weeks after nuclear bomb test

http://www.businessinsider.my/north-korea-fires-missile-near-pyongyang-south-korea-japan-2017-9/?r=US&IR=T
15/09/2017 21:11
meistsk3134 Nobody dare touch NK. Tat why kim feel arrogant. Trump need all whole world support to nuked NK. Waiting 2 clown china and russia now
16/09/2017 18:56
Seng Thye Ng Yes...yes......percah 5.10.........long time looking for that leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer.....
19/09/2017 10:28
prudentinvestor Highest level in almost 3 months. EPF holds over 40% of RHB shares. If it decides to pare down its holdings, the asking price would be at least RM7 to RM8. Be patient.
20/09/2017 10:51
meistsk3134 Dun stupid epf epf. Epf give money to invest in US better than invest RHB
20/09/2017 17:22
prudentinvestor meistsk3134, if you are unhappy with epf, you can always withdraw all your money (if you are already 55) and keep your money in the bank. You get highest interest don't you?
21/09/2017 16:16
Seng Thye Ng yes yes..........finally pecah 5.20..........yummy.....................................
next week will be more more more.....hehehehehhe
21/09/2017 16:33
meistsk3134 Miss ng or mr ng
22/09/2017 07:54
Seng Thye Ng np.....anyone you feel ok.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22/09/2017 10:36
meistsk3134 Prudent i no interest on epf interest. If can i also wan to take out all money invest something.yet it compulsory must put money in epf.
23/09/2017 20:03
meistsk3134 Interest have no benefit for me. I can slowly generate my income fast by doing small business
23/09/2017 20:04
meistsk3134 Epf use our money invest in other stuff hope can get more money. Just hopefully not stupid listen najib invest useless stuff which make loss. Epf does made loss on counter shell last time
23/09/2017 20:06
fmbklci time to sell rhbbank
23/09/2017 20:22
prudentinvestor meistsk3134, there is no guarantee that every small business can be profitable. Upon reaching the age of 55, most people still keep their with the EPF.
23/09/2017 23:26
prudentinvestor Not time to sell RHBBank yet. More upside ahead. Consider selling only after it has gone up another 5% or so.
23/09/2017 23:28

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weng I can imagine if aa up in the afternoon bwc n his fake IDs will be right again.
Because his small pic will be correct.
Si beh good le bwc!
21/09/2017 12:08
vivoviva angelol. no need give me credits lar. u can follow ur own sense. i m just a peanut. but i happy to get at 3.45. although u say that my information are from the street but i am happy that they are reliable and i can make money. dont have to be a large %. everyday 5% also good enough. hahaha.people tell me 3.40. but if i m happy with 3.45 i enter lar
21/09/2017 13:09
scottybang my big salute for vivoviva. Guru of the year will reward for you
21/09/2017 13:13
richardlee BWC again so correct- his track record over 1 year for all to see in comment history. Markets a bit nervous after Fed statement. Market and AA opened higher selling pressure soon came; Since you say big picture still positive, i plan to keep my AA

Posted by BuyWithConviction > Sep 21, 2017 09:05 AM | Report Abuse
Tactical investors should note Fed statement last night. The reversal of QE was expected and will be gradual but it is not a positive big picture development. Fortunately, the outlook for inflation is still tame. Expecting some short term market hesitancy. No crystal ball and can be wrong but i think overall big picture remains positive for the coming weeks and medium term conviction call on AA remains.
21/09/2017 13:19
Whey Whey Hahaha richardlee so jealous readers worship vivoviva so hv to faster promoted her bwc..kikiki
21/09/2017 14:02
mancingbursa Whey Whey, angelol, vivoviva, weng, humbleisland - cheers

Say something, I'm giving up on you, I'm sorry that I couldn't get to you, Anywhere, I would've, followed you, Say something I'm giving up on you, And I will swallow my pride, You're the one that I love, And I'm saying goodbye...
21/09/2017 14:27
BuyWithConviction Ringgit at 4.1975, keep eye on big picture! Hehe
21/09/2017 15:05
vivoviva so can buy or not? friday selling is a norm as what angelol say. today is thursday by the way
21/09/2017 15:44
elbrutus look at d freaking BIG PICTURE as reconmended by d SENIOR STOOGE aka BWC b4 buying lo...very very chun wan ..i hear lah...lmao
21/09/2017 15:49
helloworld123 friday is a holiday.
21/09/2017 15:55
richardlee Icon8888 should not use his fake IDs to complain or use vulgar words when other people expose his dishonest acts or when other readers attack him back. He should instead be happy since he is getting exactly what he wished for.

Icon8888 has admitted he purposely provokes Investo and BWC and said he is happy with all the fighting - proven by his old comment below.

Posted by Icon8888 > Mar 14, 2017 08:40 AM | Report Abuse
Great, my tactic is working. Every now and then I will provoke BWC and investo. They get all worked up and came out spamming and bitching. I sit down coolly to watch show
21/09/2017 16:11
vivoviva obviously i know friday is a holiday. but does it mean that airasia will always be red on friday? what if there is an important annoucement? i am just saying what if? dont have to listen to me. just WHAT if?
21/09/2017 16:28
bj469 vivoviva, on what you said last week about an important announcement to be made by 31 oct, is it insider info?
21/09/2017 16:53
BuyWithConviction Sold down on closing to end at day low of 3.41. Volume was not thin too. As said this morning, the markets will have to digest the big picture development overnight and this could lead to some market hesitancy short term. Hope it stabilizes soon. Keep eye on big picture and Happy long weekend! Hehe

Posted by BuyWithConviction > Sep 21, 2017 09:05 AM | Report Abuse
Tactical investors should note Fed statement last night. The reversal of QE was expected and will be gradual but it is not a positive big picture development. Fortunately, the outlook for inflation is still tame. Expecting some short term market hesitancy. No crystal ball and can be wrong but i think overall big picture remains positive for the coming weeks and medium term conviction call on AA remains.
21/09/2017 16:56
humbleisland Lol, BWC did not predict anything this morning. "market hesitancy" could also mean price stabilised at the opening number due to hesitance to trade. Wth. This kind of fake guru anyone also can become la.

Lol also at 67lee's "Most people who are good would not be willing to share". Would be even better if you guys can stfu.
21/09/2017 17:14
mancingbursa Today rm3.11099 to sgd1.00
Think to working at Singapore? Ask me
No commission, no recommend fee
21/09/2017 17:40
mancingbursa Hahahaha

elbrutus look at d freaking BIG PICTURE as reconmended by d SENIOR STOOGE aka BWC b4 buying lo...very very chun wan ..i hear lah...lmao
21/09/2017 15:49
21/09/2017 17:48
richardlee Wow, exactly like you predicted this morning BWC. The power of big picture for all to see - again! Thanks for sharing. Most people who are good would not be willing to share. We got public holiday tomorrow! :-D

Posted by BuyWithConviction > Sep 21, 2017 09:05 AM | Report Abuse
Tactical investors should note Fed statement last night. The reversal of QE was expected and will be gradual but it is not a positive big picture development. Fortunately, the outlook for inflation is still tame. Expecting some short term market hesitancy. No crystal ball and can be wrong but i think overall big picture remains positive for the coming weeks and medium term conviction call on AA remains.
21/09/2017 21:15
weng Who say bwc didn't predict anything?
He predicted giant picture, big picture, medium picture, small picture, mini picture, micro picture, nano picture... All sort of pictures!
21/09/2017 23:12
elbrutus in all shapes too...square round triangle rectangle..etc etc etc...laugh me die lo...kikikikikiki
21/09/2017 23:27
weng Yes elbrutus! Sorry that I missed out all the pictures of different shapes. There are simply too many pictures he predicted, almost impossible for me to conclude...
22/09/2017 07:53
onecall Looks like richardlee/bwc getting more and more desperate. Seems like no one acknowledge bwc or pm him for tuition course yet. Well...
22/09/2017 08:40
mancingbursa @weng u know some ppl only know to belagak or act smart inside the class but when outside lik e the dog dropping in the drain.
22/09/2017 13:08
awsomechan Richardlee is desperately trying to show BWC is a sifu but the fact is BWC cant even read a financial report. Hahaha
22/09/2017 15:15
awsomechan yap. i was right. he is desperate now. Hehehe
22/09/2017 15:47
awsomechan investo follow BWC in supermx FGV and AAX AA and make a huge loss in these counters. Good thing is he finally wake up. nowadays we dont see investo anymore. Hahaha
22/09/2017 15:58
elbrutus not small timers but actually ...SMALL PEOPLE like u 2 stooges only utilises SMALL PEOPLE TACTICS with CNP V2....u pathetic guys doing d hard work n shamimg thyselves....kikikikiki
22/09/2017 16:32
richardlee Wow, exactly like you predicted yesterday morning BWC - proof given in his post below. The power of big picture for all to see - again! Thanks for sharing. Most people who are good would not be willing to share. We got public holiday today! :-D

Posted by BuyWithConviction > Sep 21, 2017 09:05 AM | Report Abuse
Tactical investors should note Fed statement last night. The reversal of QE was expected and will be gradual but it is not a positive big picture development. Fortunately, the outlook for inflation is still tame. Expecting some short term market hesitancy. No crystal ball and can be wrong but i think overall big picture remains positive for the coming weeks and medium term conviction call on AA remains.
22/09/2017 17:19
Whey Whey Richardlee sound so desperate now hahaha
22/09/2017 18:34
Underhand This mania is really sick! If he is so persistently holding on AA shares, he would has made a fortune by now and no need to complain this and that in this forum ! Pity him!
22/09/2017 21:30
mancingbursa I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Indonesia: Bali volcano highest alert issued - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41367395
23/09/2017 04:42
mancingbursa BWC= goal keeper (headmaster)
richardlee= attacker
Investo= defender
Superwoman, warrant, bla bla bla = smoked screen ppl

All fake IDs create by BWC

Today rate= no market. Keep eye on big picture and cyrstal ball bouncing
23/09/2017 04:46
mancingbursa Below links just like bwc and richardlee want to tell all of us we are wrong. Funny and ridicule, must read and make u laugh...

I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Five bizarre 'lessons' in Indian textbooks - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34336826

I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Cows to planes: Indian ministers who rewrote scientific history - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-41344136
23/09/2017 05:03
elbrutus yeahhh...keep instructing ur good student with CNP v2....once becomes obsolete....invent ur CNP V3 V4 V5 n so on...in d end can combine into a book form ....kikiki
23/09/2017 10:02
Underhand BWC sounds like an old grandma spoiling her grandchild, 67 lee with lots of bad encouragements, like you are doing a good job, you are a hero....bla, bla, bla. Use your crystal ball and big pictures to predict how he will become! Will just like you! A sick mania!!
23/09/2017 13:34
BuyWithConviction richardlee, you keeping them busy with CNP V2. Icon8888 has to use so many fake IDs and so much effort to keep attacking you one person only. You really hero - you one person can handle all of them. They can bark crude words at you all they want but most important they cannot gang up to cheat readers anymore. You really doing good job keeping this forum safe from scammers. Congrats to AA forum. Hehe
23/09/2017 14:01
Whey Whey Poor bwc sound more and more desperate now haha
23/09/2017 14:08
mancingbursa Desperate = arm tiu ?
Feeling f**ked
23/09/2017 14:18
JN88 BWC tommorow big picture how? Can buy?
23/09/2017 14:55
onecall Don't so desperate la, no one will join your bwc tuition class one la. Everyone hates fame and attention seeker. No one will appreciate a lousy sifu's advice..
23/09/2017 15:32
mancingbursa Can feel richardlee very2 arm tiu promote CNP V2 no laku one. Haha tomolo promote CNP V3 COMING LIAO...
23/09/2017 19:11
mancingbursa Sifu jn88 tomolo cannot buy la... Buy aa air ticket to desperate island visit new type of cnp v2 monkey
23/09/2017 19:18
elbrutus so 67lee u consider urself big timer lah ???
23/09/2017 20:47
elbrutus always berating people wt words like...no go school ...small timers...Icon8888 clones.....u really r d biggest PARIAH in this forum...i ingat ur socall sifu was bad...my....u r out of this world...f.....g alien
23/09/2017 20:50
elbrutus if u bring ur sifu n urself n migrate to MARS ...then really peace n happiness for AA forumers...yeahhhhhhh
23/09/2017 20:53
JN88 Mancingbursa sifu: if BWC sifu want to sell then I want to buy.
23/09/2017 20:59
richardlee BWC, I am not hero lah. Yes, with CNP V2 it is so easy to make Icon8888 fake IDs work hard. But these are so small timers only that i don't even bother mentioning their names. And don't worry about their vulgar posts, they are only shaming their own upbringing, I consider them mad dog barking only, Most important like you said, Icon8888 is now exposed and so cannot gang up to cheat readers anymore. Happy for AA forum!
23/09/2017 21:22
Whey Whey Haha poor richardlee sound so desperate
23/09/2017 22:11
23/09/2017 22:12
elbrutus 67lee...it is still not too late to ditch that bogus sifu of yours..nobody will say that u r a ...fun kuat cai ....infact u will be getting alot of applause for bravery....come on ...show ur sifu d middle finger n tell him or her to n eat sh.1.t...kikikiki
23/09/2017 23:21

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Goldchia MH http://www.cn.bullbearbursa.com/2017/09/05/%E5%B8%82%E5%9C%BA%E8%A1%8C%E6%83%85-050917/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=FBL10&utm_content=dailynews
05/09/2017 21:55
Goldchia MH Up up up
05/09/2017 21:56
clonewar77 Kuda pancit oledi ke
06/09/2017 11:35
joetay why suddenly so quiet????

no more bullish on dutaland????
08/09/2017 00:39
TrippleZ Is not suddenly. It was always quiet. Now back to normal. Good
08/09/2017 01:11
calvintaneng Steadily up and up to cross rm1.00.
08/09/2017 02:25
Myway Got chance to cross $1 only if the deal with BPlant finally go thru.
Otherwise back to square and wait for another 5 years.
08/09/2017 06:50
Myway How likely the deal will go thru ???
08/09/2017 06:50
haba88 calvintaneng Steadily up and up to cross rm1.00.
08/09/2017 02:25

you see this kinda comment. irresponsible and selfish. not even a word of caution. just because you bought lower doesnt mean it'll be a safe bet for others at the current price. the trend is exactly the same as muiind's pump and dump. price stagnant and push up a couple of times to entice fools befor finally falling back to all time low
08/09/2017 09:25
chanky50 On this forum, we share confirmed/unconfirmed information. You can choose to believe or take them as bullshitting. You make your independent decision to buy or sell. You are responsible for yourself and your own action, nobody is going to care about what you are doing, gain or lose. I personally would like to thank Calvin for spending so much time to gather valuable information and sharing with others But in stocks, good counter may not move, lousy counter may go through the roof. Just look at Kluang (NTA Rm10.41), it has only 63 million share but is holding Rm269 million cash and Rm429 million investing that include 43.3% Sg. Bagan (Rm92 million), 45.3% Kuchai (Rm88 million), Precious metal (Gold?) (Rm21 million), Quoted Shares outside Malaysia (Rm 333 million) ............... and it is selling at Rm 3.68, how to explain. Holding this stock is indeed frustrating.
08/09/2017 12:36
chanky50 Rm429 available for sale investment
08/09/2017 12:38
chanky50 Rm429 million available for sale investment
08/09/2017 12:45
Goldchia MH WILL GO LIMIT UP 

LIMIT UP ONE TIME OR LIMIT UP 2 TIMES? 

YAHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! 


INTENTION TO ACQUIRE THE PLANTATION ASSET (AS DEFINED HEREINUNDER) IN THE DISTRICT OF LABUK AND SUGUT, SABAH MEASURING APPROXIMATELY 11,579.31 HECTARES FOR A TOTAL CASH CONSIDERATION OF RM750 MILLION BY BOUSTEAD RIMBA NILAI SDN BHD, A WHOLLY-OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF BOUSTEAD PLANTATIONS BERHAD, FROM PERTAMA LAND & DEVELOPMENT SDN BHD, A WHOLLY-OWNED SUB-SUBSIDIARY OF DUTALAND BERHAD
08/09/2017 13:12
Goldchia MH Cash is definitely coming soon
08/09/2017 13:14
bennychen Its a good bet and hope it can shoot up like the ICBM
08/09/2017 22:02
Goldchia MH Very good closing at 0.60c
Investors know what they are buying for
09/09/2017 13:01
pakatan_harapan2 Even got cash when can pay dividend?
10/09/2017 19:06
pakatan_harapan2 Why dividend is 0? Fake account?
https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/annent/3948.jsp
10/09/2017 19:06
lwyy60 Tq all. Good luck
11/09/2017 14:45
nokenzo Sudah mari. Earnest deposit paid.
11/09/2017 14:58
tah16600 UPtrend continues
11/09/2017 16:23
631207115149 TP..?
11/09/2017 16:34
tah16600 Strong resistance at 70 sen. If can break through convincingly, then the next target One buck.
11/09/2017 17:01
bennychen Good show today. Hope it can go further. All happy.
11/09/2017 19:03
kenny5978 DUTALND (3948)
Price/现价 : 0.645
Target price/目标价: 0.745/0.80
Cut loss/止损价 : 0.555
**Syariah
Sector/领域: PLANTATION
12/09/2017 11:12
nekosan haha stop posting those target price ... because all depend the deal ... no deal no go
13/09/2017 08:53
danny123 DEAL CANCEL
13/09/2017 09:56
bennychen Strong assets in hand...why worry.
13/09/2017 13:52
Pink218 danny123: are u sure the deal is cancel?
14/09/2017 16:18
nokenzo 15m paid as earnest deposit, how can they cancel so fast. main main kut.
14/09/2017 21:36
bennychen Fake news.Nothing to worry.
15/09/2017 22:21
michael_jackson Thank you calvintaneng.... my share prices in dutaland going up since august this year....yours prediction come true already........haha...
20/09/2017 09:50
coffee yes tq mr calvin
21/09/2017 01:43
bennychen heavy trading this morning. Any news or update?
21/09/2017 09:53
Angel of KLSE 大马股仙 holiday weekend sales promotion! don't miss out!
21/09/2017 11:45
danny123 DEAL CANCEL
21/09/2017 12:30
adamsmith deal off? insider selling ?
21/09/2017 14:56
Money1188 Deal off, is that true?
21/09/2017 15:18
apolloang deal off lagi 60cts? deal off should be 50cts mah
21/09/2017 15:20
traderman no worry, calvintaneng will buy the land from dutaland
21/09/2017 16:02
apolloang why deal off liao cannot down? tipu ar?
21/09/2017 16:05
TheContrarian Those who have insider information selling off first.
21/09/2017 16:52
joetay @TheContrarian,

is it ur mermaid coming to disturb the deal???

lol.......
21/09/2017 21:34
laosai Why 60 sen? 40-50 sen only OK.

Posted by apolloang > Sep 21, 2017 03:20 PM | Report Abuse
deal off lagi 60cts? deal off should be 50cts mah
21/09/2017 22:55
TheContrarian The mermaid of the lake scared off the Bplant site survey team.
21/09/2017 23:35
joetay lol.....
21/09/2017 23:44
nekosan Deal still on. No off.. Some one create panic to collect cheap
22/09/2017 19:04
TheContrarian If not off, possibly extended for renegotiation.
22/09/2017 19:40
88798 Hi Nekosan, just to find out why u said the deal is still on? Huge selling on Thursday. Thanks!
22/09/2017 20:20
danny123 Deal off after announce only come down .49cents
23/09/2017 23:09

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OngLai88 Too many issued shares. Hard to push up price. Wait for share consolidation exercise.
19/09/2017 22:52
bruce551133 tomorrow ga yau! ga yau! ga yau! up up up...bornoil... :-D :-D :-D
20/09/2017 00:06
Hardminer Invest but not gamble. My concern is focused on its main catalysts which are its limestone marble blocks for export markets and the setting up of an integrated cement production plant. Both of its fast food franchise together with the gold mining & trading divisions will provide cashflow in the near term until the main catalysts progress further.
20/09/2017 06:45
Hardminer After XAU retreated since 2 days ago before UN meeting, it's the best buy again. Then Trump just attended UN assembly and threatened to destroy NK. We may see XAU going up again.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-un-north-korean-leader-suicide-mission-n802596

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/19/politics/trump-un-speech-world-leaders-react/index.html

“The US has great strength and patience,” Trump said. But he added: “If it is forced to defend ourselves or our allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea.”

I hope Bornoil added more XAU long positions
20/09/2017 06:45
budakbaru kalau hold dlm 6 bulan ok ke kaunter ni?
20/09/2017 08:28
Gold_King At least 2 yrs la simpan baru nampak hasil, or maybe next month dah nampak hasil, who knows ?
20/09/2017 09:19
djibaok Kalau 2 years tanam padi dah berapa kali tuai
20/09/2017 09:20
bruce551133 Saya baru tanam padi hampir genap 1 tahun... :-D up up up...bornoil... :-D :-D :-D
20/09/2017 09:34
Hardminer Going long on XAUUSD spot contracts now will be the best move. If Bornoil have been doing so now, the returns will be commendable in the next Q3 result. I bought a lot of long XAUUSD spot contracts myself for the past 2 days. Do u think Bornoil's gold spot trading division team would be doing nothing during the XAU price pullback just before the UN assembly which was first time attended by Trump & he spoken to the rest of UN members that US will totally destroy NK if threatened?
20/09/2017 10:34
Hardminer Be relevant to the discussion. Tq
20/09/2017 10:36
CikguRamesh hardminer, too many kids lepak nowadays. Thanks for ur good sharing
20/09/2017 10:41
headhunter rubbish stock
20/09/2017 12:30
Gold_King We look at the psychology wise, investors are fear of buying 0.100 due to unlimited selling Q when some 1 break the 0.100 wall, but once we back think of what bornoil nowaday doing, as well as what info hardminer given, don't you think it is worth for us to wait ? Remember....dont regret of if u miss the boat of 0.100.... hahahaha....
20/09/2017 12:32
djibaok every qtr oso untong stock price go up like siput sedottttt
20/09/2017 12:32
Hardminer At the moment, the most worthy to watch is the XAUUSD spot price since Bornoil has in excess of 78,000 oz of gold spot contracts in its inventory. It has been adding up many ounces of spot contracts continuously since Feb this year. I'm expecting more XAU contracts to be added to its inventory moving forward.

Take a look at the chronological events of NK missile tests where NK's last failed missile test was in October 19, 2016. Then they succeeded their first medium-range ballistic missile on February 11, 2017. So to match these real events to what Bornoil's own gold spot trading division team is doing, Bornoil has floated almost all of its real gold holdings into XAU gold spot contracts to take advantage of the surging gold spot price and ease of trades.

Bornoil started to float almost all of its real gold inventory into XAU gold spot contracts starting from February 2017:
https://ibb.co/e6Pi3k

NK succeeded in launching its first medium-range ballistic missile on 11-Feb-2017:
https://ibb.co/ebv1pQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_Korean_missile_tests
20/09/2017 17:27
chan9301 Gold trading is high risk. Though currently gold is enjoying a mild bull run. US Interest hikes are also in the horizon. If i remember correctly Bornoil did report some spot gold losses in their previous QR.
Alas, no risk no gain. Trading volumes increased slightly today to app. 9M. However, app. 27M shares at 10 sen in the seller Qs. Cheers
20/09/2017 22:14
bruce551133 https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/19/gold-prices-nearly-flat-as-investors-wait-for-fed-outcome.html


tomorrow ga yau! ga yau! ga yau! up up up...bornoil... :-D :-D :-D
20/09/2017 22:58
Hardminer Nothing comes with no risk. The most important is how u manage your investment & trades. None of all the contracts are being bought all in one go. Invest and not gamble.
21/09/2017 08:21
Hardminer chan9301, which quarter as u said it's suffering losses if u may point out please?

Which quarter?
How much losses?
Reason given for losses?

Would like to see some proof of references. Tq
21/09/2017 08:30
Hardminer Current XAUUSD hovering around 1,300 level is deemed to be very attractive and the market expect it to enter a resurgent momentum soon so many gold traders are bullish on this.
21/09/2017 09:21
kennethphc Hi Hi, Is Bornoil burning up now?
21/09/2017 11:57
beginner165 afternoon show...
21/09/2017 12:03
beginner165 woodswater looking very experienced in this counter... old customers here? ka ka ka
21/09/2017 12:20
beginner165 how much you bought? 2 years ain't long.. i hold masteel for more than 3 years since july 2015.. last week i sold masteel and lock much profits.. ka ka ka. patience will gives you sweet rewards..
21/09/2017 12:29
Pak Andak Any news?
21/09/2017 12:41
bruce551133 after lunch ga yau! ga yau! ga yau! up up up...bornoil... :-D :-D :-D
21/09/2017 13:33
followme101 Hardminer, u have very good analysis. Keep up d good work! Btw there is heavy buying volume at 11:51am just now. What happen? Hardminer, are u the one buying?
21/09/2017 14:17
GooGooDolls top10 counter something brewing. Buy some to keep!
21/09/2017 14:37
bruce551133 ga yau! ga yau! ga yau! up up up...bornoil... :-D :-D :-D
21/09/2017 14:40
OngLai88 Too heavy to push.....
21/09/2017 15:02
bruce551133 ga yau! ga yau! ga yau! up up up...bornoil... :-D :-D :-D
21/09/2017 15:14
kennethphc Hu Ha Hu Ha. Price remain there.
21/09/2017 15:16
bone Plenty of 0.100 stocks, forwver cant clear
21/09/2017 15:26
bruce551133 forever can't clear, but can forever erase... :-D up up up...bornoil... :-D :-D :-D
21/09/2017 15:31
bruce551133 ga yau! ga yau! ga yau! up up up...bornoil... :-D :-D :-D
21/09/2017 15:55
followme101 wa! who buy so much? warming up oil to goreng?
21/09/2017 16:34
Gold_King Who suka to buy expensive ?Boss punya cash sangat kao, they suka to eat low, seems like if they suka, someone will give them makan, just follow the boss style......
21/09/2017 19:37
nich0las PohKong QR earn 14.3Mil, hmm..... Monday wants to buy back Born-Gold. 0.10 oso sapu liao la. im back~!
21/09/2017 20:05
nich0las Someone pls explain this picture for me. TQ. is it Earnings from Gold More %?
https://imgur.com/a/JaxFk
21/09/2017 20:23
bruce551133 next monday ga yau! ga yau! ga yau! up up up...bornoil... :-D :-D :-D
21/09/2017 23:47
warchest Monday sapu 10 cents, hope can go at least 15 cents
22/09/2017 18:53
Woodswater D u guys predict Monday sure will gone up from 10-15 c ?

Wakakakaka
22/09/2017 19:08
Hardminer Whether gold price heading up or down, Bornoil will keep earning from its XAU spot contracts trading. Sold those short positions
22/09/2017 21:03
bruce551133 hopefully can move up by next week...amithaba...up up up...bornoil... :-D :-D :-D
23/09/2017 00:16
Thiamhuat Too gold cant eat...boy
23/09/2017 05:27
bruce551133 can't eat, then i try feel and touch... :-D up up up...bornoil... :-D :-D :-D
23/09/2017 17:30
Woodswater Go buy berjaya foods , got McDonald's , Kenny rogers + Starbucks !

Wakakakaka
23/09/2017 18:53
Woodswater In future , u might c during show hand match for Hold'em porkers . Gold perhaps replace chips as official tools for gambling - dreaming !

Wakakakaka
23/09/2017 18:57
Sales McDonald's already sold off to middle East. Correct me if I'm wrong.
23/09/2017 19:53
bruce551133 i like Fillet O Fish... :-D up up up...bornoil... :-D :-D :-D
23/09/2017 23:07

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sheldon I expect mediocre results. I've sort of given up on this counter.
19/09/2017 21:26
smartly think it will be 4sen dividend this round.
20/09/2017 09:32
tiptop168 Every one waiting for it...
20/09/2017 09:38
tiptop168 Some buying the share coz of dividend announment. 2.33
20/09/2017 09:46
Seng Thye Ng yes...Q result is very important......i guess NP 70 millions..........
please count slow and steady....... we want good result.....
20/09/2017 10:12
tiptop168 yes.70 mils then u will receive 5c
20/09/2017 14:11
joetay @tiptop,

any idea when bjtoto q118 result will be out????
20/09/2017 14:32
tiptop168 Be patient. All of us here waiting now...
20/09/2017 14:58
joetay i wait until neck long long alrdy.

need to see if there is any vietnam story to spin first b4 i decide.

u think vn result will start showing soon????
20/09/2017 15:55
smartly maybe tonight result out...
20/09/2017 15:58
joetay thx smartly.

want to see got any vn hints.
20/09/2017 16:01
Henry Chan Hope good profits and dividends...
20/09/2017 16:15
joetay @henry,

lagi better is plus something positive on vn also.
20/09/2017 16:52
bestreturn Today still no Quarterly result. Anyone have any idea when?
20/09/2017 17:55
bestreturn 4 sen dividend
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5549877
20/09/2017 19:01
smartly sui sui....
20/09/2017 19:19
smartly tomorrow will up 4sen.... :)
20/09/2017 19:20
lkoky phew, scare me. so late only released QR
20/09/2017 19:23
Henry Chan any comments on the QR?
20/09/2017 19:31
Seng Thye Ng waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Q report out.......NP 77.66 Millions.......
Tmrw should be up like rocket.......................
20/09/2017 21:10
Seng Thye Ng http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5549869
20/09/2017 21:15
jackng06 Tp 2.8 buy call
20/09/2017 23:14
joetay good results.

but i was hoping for some hints on their vn operations.
20/09/2017 23:24
Jon Choivo So lottery for both Philippines and Malaysia, revenue and profit drop. Only reason for gain is due to high car sales from UK division, and forex gain.

Shit result.
20/09/2017 23:39
joetay @jon,

thx for the reminder on the inter-segment.

when did bjtoto put in the uk motor???

i always thot it was placed under either bja or bjc.
20/09/2017 23:51
OceanSky @jon,

Correction on segmental result, refer to Note B1:
1. PGMC at Philippines, both revenue & pre-tax profit is drop, -4.6% and -25.2%.
2. Sports Toto M'sia, revenue drop -2.3%, however pre-tax profit is up 2.3%, due to lower prize payout.
3. HR Owen, revenue up to RM670.7 mil from RM262.1 mil. Pre-tax profit up to RM15.5 mil from RM6.9 mil. Very bright results for this Q1, and could be a new profit trend for HR Owen.
4. No statement about Vietlott result, however while read P&L sheet, item named : Share of results of associated companies, it's result is (- RM1.783 mil), as Bj-toto owns 10% of Vietlott, Vietlott result could be (- RM17.83 mil).
21/09/2017 08:22
joetay @oceansky,

thats why i was quite disappointed when no news on vn was given.

whats ur take on their vn ops??? any chance to move into neighboring mkts????
21/09/2017 08:51
tiptop168 Up.. Up.. Up
21/09/2017 09:17
gsi723 Vincent always shift his assets sana sini, only he knows what his motive...
21/09/2017 09:35
joetay lol.....

try consolidating all the accounts of vt's listed companies, @gsi723.

maybe u will do better than me.

i tried once and all i can say, its a good accounting exercise in futile. i can never balanced out the numbers.
21/09/2017 09:41
pputeh I have given up long long ago buying any counters were there is even a smell of Tan being involved
21/09/2017 10:18
Undi_PAS We hate gambling and beer drinking. They break family.
21/09/2017 10:25
4444 Revenue up how many %? If after deduct RM 69 million jackpot won last week net gain how much?
21/09/2017 10:29
Seng Thye Ng lai lai.......healthy up......pecah 2.40 1st.....................
21/09/2017 11:08
geary Vincent Tan is a shrewd businessman...U think those business graduates, know how to run business like him...??? He had being buying his company shares, that why I bought also, @2.28. Now my calculated risk is targeted. Vietlotte, hasn't really contribute to its bottom line, but its Earnings growth prospects is bright, very promising. So it depends, how u invest like a businessman, analyse its business ventures, n decide for yourself. Final decision is yours...!!! Thanks...!!!
21/09/2017 11:33
samdogass i love and hate toto
21/09/2017 12:40
pakatan_harapan2 VT support PM Najib since when?
21/09/2017 13:44
Parttimer Time to buy. Two quarters of earnings recovery. 20 year low in terms of PER, technical analysis forming a base ( no longer lower low), dividend yield 5-6%. Many analysts including kenanga, maybank, cimb all recommend buy
21/09/2017 14:20
MyInvest didvidend just 4 sen from gambling biz... :))
21/09/2017 15:05
MyInvest Atleast shud give .10 sen... Better wait for next week to pump more BJTOTO...
21/09/2017 15:06
geary @MyInvest. Bjtoto has a dividend policy of 75% of its EPS. That's good already. 4 cents is the correct amount. Thanks!
21/09/2017 15:20
fzank bought bijitoto 2.37
21/09/2017 15:26
geary Oh...!!! My god...!!! All my portfolios uptrending, including this BJTOTO...!!! "I know I will be Rich", Buffett's. Wow...!!!
21/09/2017 15:55
michael_jackson waiting for my bjtoto dividend payment on 24/10/2017.......invested on this stock 7 years ago....very lucky this stock always pay me reasonable dividend every years.....keep it up, Bjtoto.....Toto boleh!!!
21/09/2017 18:20
smartly 7 years ago means you bought at > 4.50....?
22/09/2017 00:11
smartly now loss a lot..... :(
22/09/2017 00:11
geary Ya...!!! Even @2008 subprime crisis, Bjtoto was lowest @4.30. BTW they need averaging down their Investment, if they think it will turnaround. I look at its forward Earnings growth, maybe around 10 to 12%. So market value <2.40 should be okay, PE below 12x Earnings. I was approximately correct. Maybe its forward EPS will be higher than 0.20@FY 2018. Bjtoto is a fully matured company, any Capital gains of above 25% should be okay, above 50%, u r laughing to d Bank...!!! Good Luck...!!!
22/09/2017 19:05
nekosan Won't up until all illegal one are busted
22/09/2017 19:07
geary @I think some people like never work before, never sit inside kopitiam or any clubs, talking about politics, business, n many others topics concerning life of how people are fighting to earn a living. Not even one country in the world can eradicate or bust all these illegally organised gambling, drug, prostitution, money laundering, etc, syndicates worldwide. Any political parties or individuals can do it...??? Thanks...!!!
22/09/2017 19:40
sheldon I recently went through my old contract notes dating back to 2007. I saw trades done at 5.05 and other prices in the vicinity.
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08/08/2017 10:34
Depeche The safest bet is to wait till it goes back to below 0.40....if ever...to consider entering.
08/08/2017 10:45
ylsc Depeche, can you share how high it can go after it goes below 0.4 if it really happen in future? TQ
08/08/2017 12:21
Depeche Ylsc, Since CA doesn't move with Mother share.. it's impossible to predict...that's why better play safe and buy closer to its debut listed price..ie. 0.31...I made 1st round of profit..i entered at 0.39 and sold at 0.67...to me, CA is high risk so we should minimise the risk if we decide to speculate...I will not enter again until it drops to below 0.40. The highest price it has reached so far was 0.745.
08/08/2017 20:07
Depeche Please note call warrants are not convertible to Mother shares...expiry Feb 2018..so very high risk.
08/08/2017 20:25
Depeche The initial euphoria also seems to have dwindled. Trade at your own risk.
08/08/2017 20:26
Effendy Tay Wait CA touch 49good buy
08/08/2017 21:41
ylsc Depeche, thanks for advise & sharing
Effendy, what basis u fix at that price. can you share to us?
09/08/2017 09:49
Depeche It continues to retreat...be patient
09/08/2017 15:14
Lee1234 Is time to burn money,wait drop till .40 re-enter
09/08/2017 16:19
CharlesT First 2 days pushed to sky high and then slow slow sell...even so the issuer also very damn happy to sell at low n lower price
10/08/2017 09:20
goldenluck16 Bearish
10/08/2017 09:32
CKCS Which sifu last telling ppl to buy CA ah??? pinkyplane and stockraider? Bankrupting loh....!!
10/08/2017 15:49
Lee1234 Who hold tis stock who die..
10/08/2017 16:09
Depeche Will keep retreating till it becomes attractive for the 2nd round of rollercoaster ride..buy below 0.40 or even below 0.30.. who knows
.. it may go that low.
10/08/2017 16:23
juon tiu lo....sifus ask me to sailang at RM 0.745 on 3/8/2017, on 02/08/2017 said can reach RM 1.00....now at RM 0.435, how arr? almost 40% evaporated .....soob soob.....dumb dumb hold???

...ah longs calling me non-stop, banks texting me & calling me every 15 min interval.....how arrr sifus???....
11/08/2017 08:57
AhSook AhKou Bless you ......
11/08/2017 09:00
juon don't bless me.....soob soob......if bless me can get me back my capital, please bless me alot

today heart pain.....I felt like going to KLCC bridge ......they havent complete 118, so only choice is to go KLCC sky link bridge.....

see you all in the news paper in the coming days.....I will be back for the sifus......
11/08/2017 09:13
Depeche Go talk to a counselor if you're serious... if you're joking then it's not funny ok.
11/08/2017 10:31
Lee1234 Juon, will drop till .30 bank tis time really earn kao kao..
11/08/2017 11:47
Toto2009 Is the pre-tsunami of global market clashing, it will continue. Run before getting worst. Just my opinion, I have cut loss and cash in for all portfolio, hold cash to protect capital. Trade at your own risk
11/08/2017 13:02
jimtktan Posted by Depeche > Aug 8, 2017 08:25 PM | Report Abuse

Please note call warrants are not convertible to Mother shares...expiry Feb 2018..so very high risk.

Hi Depeche, "since CA are not convertible to Mother shares", then please explain the purpose of : Conversion Ratio 8:1 & Exercise Price RM6 ?
Thank you for your help.
11/08/2017 13:21
sigmax ca rebound !
11/08/2017 15:03
Lonewolfie Juon dream came true
11/08/2017 16:02
Depeche Assuming today is maturity date..8 is used to calculate price for conversion from CA to Mother share..for eg..at current price of 0.44..it will be 0.44 x 8 +6..the resulting figure must be lower than the Mother's price to make sense to convert to Mother share....settlement will be in cash..please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.
11/08/2017 16:07
jimtktan Noted with thanks. Can provide illustration on how would the final settlement working illustration in "cash" be? Thank you.
11/08/2017 16:18
Depeche Example again based on 0.44...it should be 0.44 x 8 + 6RM x Amount of shares bought.
Eg. 0.44 x 8 + 6 x 1000 shares (one lot)=RM9520
please correct me if I am wrong.thanks.
11/08/2017 22:21
Depeche Stamp duty and GST applicable
11/08/2017 22:23
jimtktan Thank you Depeche. Appreciated.
11/08/2017 23:16
Depeche Juon.. better dun be greedy if you can break even or lose a little only better cut..all the best.
14/08/2017 09:50
juon many many blessing to you Depeche for your kind heart....

I'm still replying, so no worry. KLCC not high enough , I'll wait for 118 tower completion.

Juon likes to kaki kong, kaki song. Kaki simulate scenarios, kaki mental torture to feel the actual scenario if thing really turn out so bad to remind myself what cannot be done.

No worry, juon very very safe....
14/08/2017 20:56
Depeche Good to hear that you're taking things in your stride..the 2nd rollercoaster ride has started...time your exit well to minimise damage...best incur zero losses...good luck.
15/08/2017 04:52
Lee1234 Wah..come out cb and cc
15/08/2017 08:59
Depeche Not as dynamic as ca when first listed...no more fun already
15/08/2017 09:16
Depeche Now CA got competition... many will cash out and play cb and cc..I'm watching at sidelines only.
15/08/2017 09:17
katappa no worry, tomorrow those on CA all will cry father & mother already.....hahahaha

Macq issuing CB & CC with ratio 6:1, more sensitive than CA & probably lower premium than CA....kikikiki

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aiyo dragonfruit ....there are 3 categories of the cw traders probably.

category 1: beri beri experience fox in CW tradings. trying to take advantage on the category 3.

category 2: know abit, dont know abit kakis. Know at least the theoretical fundamental of CW. Know ratio, exercise price, expiry, premium , discount, reaction of mother & CW....this group normally sitting at fence level watching the Bollywood movie shooting by Category 1 & 3 at the moment. The high premium is preventing them to come in.

category 3: hami lan also don't know, ppl buy , they go buy, see volume sailang in....buy on new & rumor.

banker now from the producer become spectator to watch the Bollywood show

Those live long enough in market will know that there is always chances for new issuers to issue new CWs. There is always chances for current issuer to enlarge the CWs issue ( new trance for selling ) if the existing volume fully absorb by lanun.

Only the not so smart trying to outdo the issuers.

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CA cannot cannot be langsi anymore. CA got CB,CC, CD & CE for competition.

The failure to make the calculated prediction on the possibility of new CWs issuance have cost the blind losses. Mother moving but CA not moving instead dropping. CA's premium level have been trimmed off significantly. Foreseeable will further adjust. This pond no more fish inside soon. Might end up battle with IB one on one.

Even the newly issued of CD have better parameters in term of premium, gearing & expiry. No doubt the CE will have the highest gearing among the 5 and attracted the crowd.
16/08/2017 11:41
Lingwei Nai wow going up up up....
17/08/2017 14:37
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https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/4324cb.jsp
https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/4324cc.jsp

if you really really have to play with the instrument with expiry , let the battle ground set properly before going in

"FutureEyes One can wait for PETRONM results before entering HRC
14/08/2017 15:41

This guy strategy is very rational & sound.
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Aug 14, 2017 05:23 PM | Report Abuse

CW is the offensive play, you don't play offensive play like you play value investment which can hold long long and ignore the mother price fluctuation.

you cannot to hold long long because it has expiry & it is price sensitive to the earning result

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Aug 14, 2017 06:01 PM | Report Abuse

friend, let the battlefield set after PetronM quarterly result.....

look for save trade not risky trade

if PetronM could report earning better then the expected forecast, that would be the catalyst you are waiting for the HengYuen CWs...

without clear catalyst, knowing the CW is sensitive to earning because it is offensive play, it is wiser to be an observer for the time being...

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Aug 18, 2017 02:17 PM | Report Abuse

Gambling or not gambling, it is subjective to the players. It is subjective to how experience are the players. It is subjective to how well verse are the players.

Not all fights are make equal, not all wars are make equal, not all battle grounds are make equal.

"He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight" - Sun Tzu

It all lies back to the catalysts on the mother share. Petron coming quarter a good indicator.

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Trade/speculate with discipline save our-self from unnecessary trap of gap-down. Observes & learns the necessary.

The meat is on 3rd Quarter as per most analysis. The premium of the CWs ( A- F) have been rising fast, IBs refusing to settle for lower. Let the dust set, look for safe entry.
28/08/2017 21:06
katappa Know what you are playing, only enter with clear catalyst .

Catalyst is the upmost priority for CWs, the other are secondary. Without catalyst, the war is lost before it even started.

take note this week is short trading week.
28/08/2017 21:41
katappa Also to the opinion that all the CWs will be FULLY sold to the market is quite misleading. If you want to know how many issues are in circulation in the public, read the monthly report made by IB for

"ANNOUNCEMENT PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH 5.35(4) AND 5.35(5) OF THE MAIN MARKET LISTING REQUIREMENTS OF BURSA MALAYSIA SECURITIES BERHAD"

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/structured-warrants/5506525

All IBs announce it on the 1st week of every month. Once in a month.
28/08/2017 22:27
stockraider HANG ON...THE WRONG FORECAST ONLY MEAN THE CURRENT HRC TP RM 37.00 NO LONGER VALID LOH.....!!

GENERAL RAIDER ADVICE FROM NOW ON JUST BE CONSERVATIVE LOH...DO NOT USE FORECAST USE ACTUAL FIGURE LOH....!!

THIS MEANS WE ANALYSE BASED ON FACTS AND NO LONGER ESTIMATES LOH...!!

WITH Q2...EPS RM 0.28....THE ROLLING TRAILING HISTORICAL EPS WILL BE RM 1.62 PER SHARE LOH....!!

THE FREE CASHFLOW PER SHARE OF HRC BASED ON 6 MTHS Q1 & Q2 IS NET CASH GENERATION PER SHARE IS RM 1.44 FOR 6 MTHS LOH...!!

LOOK AT THE BALANCE SHEET OF HRC, THE CASH HOLDING INCREASE TO RM 743 MILLION IN JUNE FROM RM 238 MILLION IN 31-3-2017.

THIS MEANS THE NET BORROWING REDUCE FROM RM 1.07 BILLION IN MARCH TO RM 572 MILLION IN JUNE, RESULTING IN IMPROVEMENT OF RM 498 MILLION WITHIN 3 MTHS.

THUS PE 4.3X BASED ON SHARE PRICE OF HRC RM 7.03 LOH...!!

THE LATEST HISTORICAL EARNINGS AND CASHFLOW OF HRC LOOKS IMPRESSIVE LOH..!!

THE NEW TP IS RM 15.00 GENERAL RAIDER SET BASED ON ACTUAL HISTORICAL EARNINGS LOH...!!

VERY CONSERVATIVE LOH...!!
NOW WE NO USE FORECAST TO BE CONSERVATIVE LOH...!!
28/08/2017 22:30
katappa there is an ugly truth on the CW that player need to find out yourself, no one going to tell you.

there is an highly professional fifo warrant trader in i3, follow blindly with obsolete loyalty / without knowing the basis behind, you will end up in the fire

the most basis principle & upmost priority - only enter when the catalyst is strong

secondary on the ratios , premium, sensitivity, etc

similar approach applies to other warrants

adios, it is time to kill Katappa character. Good luck to all.
29/08/2017 10:34
paperplane2016 add little more today
18/09/2017 15:00
paperplane2016 when mother break RM10 next quarter, I hope this can go back towards 0.70 range
18/09/2017 15:31
paperplane2016 buy more CA today, at 0.425. I hope it can go towards 0.50 in near term
19/09/2017 09:31
Try Bentry Dear Depeche, my avg cost at rm0.401
Kindly advice this counter can hold or cut loss while still not badly damage. Thank you for ur advice.
20/09/2017 18:07
paperplane2016 continue hold till Feb18 see how loh
20/09/2017 18:13
prince4 提醒: 投资银行压低母股的股票让持有call warrant变成废纸!
投资银行与大股东(庄家)合作将推出call warrant让小股民购买,用废纸换真钞。
投资银行一旦出售完call warrant, 蓝筹股和中型股都是在大马交易所250支股票里面允许合法做空的股票。
他们将卖空母股压低价格直到call warrant低于行使价格直到call warrant到期变废纸,call warrant很短的期限最长期限也顶多只有八个月。
很多小股民都是损失了大部资金在买call warrant.
call warrant是由投资银行与大股东(庄家)进行控制报价和价格走势,不管卖你们什么价钱投资银行与大股东(庄家)到最后把压低过行使价他们都是赚。
call warrant是一个风险极高的赌博产品。
20/09/2017 22:51
thomashan paperplane now enter still can ? =x
23/09/2017 15:51
ooihk899 thomashan, my advice is you have to decide on your own whether is good to buy or not. Try to learn how to fish yourself. Many sifu here giving class. You can enrol. Many info in the HRC thread. You can read it starting from March, plenty of thing you can learn from there.
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23/09/2017 22:59

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ooihk899 Relax bro, might have to wait until next month before it move.
No need to check everyday.
18/09/2017 18:36
Chong Jiunn Hau Yes. in short term, the price is a voting machine; in long term it is a weighting machine
As long as the profit increases over time, we do not need to worry and look at it everyday.

Just curious how it was voted today. LOL
18/09/2017 23:26
Alex Foo ah chong, if you monitor yesterday's 60000 lot transaction, the way it was sold is like this

1) suddenly got big queue 60000 lot parking to buy (12 ppl)
2) then start selling, 5k, 5k, 5k, 5k
3) then finish

don't think it's cashing out. It's really monkey left right hand show.
19/09/2017 09:45
Alex Foo the problem is, because so large volume was done at 2.24 (red), it causes TA indicator to go down
19/09/2017 09:46
minghong yesterday the big lot of share traded or exchange i think could possible due to change to another operator, left to right hand, this is what i could think of. i dun think is cash out, should be a pre arranged transaction, if cash out where to find such huge lot buyer ?
19/09/2017 09:46
Alex Foo so the big shark like to pay comission to their remisier, i donno la.
19/09/2017 09:46
minghong alex, i think is change of operator, maybe the previous operator already earn profit they wan to take out, so change to another new operator, commission maybe can negotiate, to earn big profit push another round what is big deal pay some commission??
19/09/2017 09:53
minghong 2.22 come out 1000 lot buyer. pls watch now
19/09/2017 10:12
Chong Jiunn Hau is it still a monkey show today?
19/09/2017 10:17
prop1 another big volume, buyer and seller.
19/09/2017 10:24
Chong Jiunn Hau trading at 400-500 lots one shot, scary....
19/09/2017 10:26
Chong Jiunn Hau Director threw out 10m unit share yesterday. So it was not a monkey show. Really a cash out at one end and purchase at the other end
19/09/2017 18:15
Chong Jiunn Hau I suspect today he also sold a few million of shares. Big fishes ate in the huge disposed shares from the director. Good for us
19/09/2017 18:19
onlyinvestment For me , no a good signal if director selling his share . For market also not a good image if director selling his share. But my entry price was low as 1.89 , so I will wait and see what will happen at tomorrow . Just sharing not offering.
19/09/2017 20:04
Chong Jiunn Hau nothing to worry about. Dato Awang is the 3rd biggest share holder in the company, he has 176mil shares, sold 14-20mil is only a small %. He still has 167mil shares. At least it can improve liquidity a bit among the retailers.

If you look at the substantial share holders list, a lot of them are mutual funds, Government funds. Great Eastern, and EPF hold a large amount of share as well. They are still holding tight.
19/09/2017 20:40
musangfoxking aiyoh, a small ripple only lah!!! just sit patiently in the bus until it reaches the destination!!!!! hahahahahha
19/09/2017 20:47
VenFx What shit in the bus ? Kikiki
19/09/2017 20:48
Alex Foo ic....so this is arranged.....my observation on Sep 18, 2017 12:06 PM is as follows

1) suddenly got big buying queue (waiting to receive from Dato Awang)
2) dumping started. Dato awang started selling at 2.24
3) 5k, 5k, 5k, 5k...you go see the timestamp...it's done batch by batch....
4) after finish, return to normal ikan bilis playing
5) TA signal generate bearish signal because it shows huge selling at 2.24 (red)
19/09/2017 21:51
musangfoxking ur brain is dearranged!!!!
tis is a long term investment counter!!!! sure sometimes red!
19/09/2017 22:01
prop1 my 2 cents:
a. its a small amount from one of the directors shareholding. its not really a dump out. (but to us ikan bilis its more than we can digest)
b. the fact that the price didn't drop shows that there is value in the share and that there are buyers willing to absorb such amounts.

i can see not much sellers posting at 2.24-2.21 which is a good sign, now just wait for buyers to move up.
20/09/2017 10:16
ooihk899 Well said musang, you also here waiting durian runtuh ar, kikiki!!!
20/09/2017 10:25
Alex Foo haha....this durian tree sure need to wait sometime s=)
20/09/2017 10:42
Internationale The master wanted the proxy cashing out for PRU14 capital. Typical.
20/09/2017 11:12
minghong no excitement today even raise the target price to 2.75 by kenanga..
20/09/2017 15:29
Chong Jiunn Hau Dividend received
20/09/2017 15:37
minghong dividend paid so cant move up?
20/09/2017 15:43
Chong Jiunn Hau @minghong this is not a goreng stock, so be patience. Waiting for the good news from Africa and good result in Nov. Im happy if it can hold above 2.20 until next catalyst to push up the share price, again…
21/09/2017 00:42
minghong seems like lost support after the director disposed. no more support.. sad
21/09/2017 14:59
nicky Below RM2.20
21/09/2017 15:00
michael82 good time to enter...
21/09/2017 15:04
prop1 this is a good entry point. assuming it holds 2.17, lousy volume though
21/09/2017 15:58
minghong any bad news? seems like koyak...lost support
21/09/2017 16:43
Scoobydo Grab some at 2.16. Thx for d merdeka sales
21/09/2017 16:56
ljmeng kamsia....buy tampok oso....
21/09/2017 16:59
Alex Foo haha...must think like this...if drop, whoever bought dato awang also suffer. Imagine 1 sen they lost how much? Alex calculate for you

14,601,800 X (2.24-2.16) = RM1.15m =)

kacang only la~
21/09/2017 17:04
minghong can't think of why they can support few thousand lot that day but dun wan to support even 200 lot 300 lot for today.. really not make sense...or game over? then whose bought 2.24 big lot must be idiot to catch dato awang share.
21/09/2017 17:05
Chong Jiunn Hau LOL, by looking at the trading volume today, can safely say that it is a lelong day. The drop Is just temporary
21/09/2017 17:05
minghong so the question need to identify now is whether the person bought over dato awang big lot share is an idiot or today just a monkey show / purposely press down.
21/09/2017 17:16
xiang91 http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5550889
21/09/2017 18:04
xiang91 KWAP acquire from open market.
21/09/2017 18:05
Chong Jiunn Hau Another big fund become a substantial share holder. Good!!
21/09/2017 18:19
musangfoxking a good stock for investment!
21/09/2017 20:56
Alex Foo haha....think from operator perspective. ppl punya lot is a lot larger than us. They can't stand seeing 1 sen drop more than us. Since Serbadk is good FA counter, I have more confidence on its upside.

Time is the friend of a wonderful business. The guy who bought awang share at 2.24 will laugh to the bank 1 year from now.
21/09/2017 22:02
Chong Jiunn Hau @minghong, unless you plan to buy more SerbaDk share, else you can just leave it until Nov QR release. It is normal share price up and down, but long run it is going upward trend.

Look at the tide, no the waves.
22/09/2017 16:48
nicky Volume suddenly shrunk yesterday while most of the O&G counters volume n price increase.. fishy
22/09/2017 21:28
prop1 kwap acquired a lot of shares. price drop coz no buyer volume. but the volume is very lousy. just wait a bit and see. sure goes back up again. Unless people panic and start dumping. but Rhett is no reason to peacock
23/09/2017 09:32
musangfoxking OUTPERFORM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!in the Edge!
23/09/2017 17:48
ooihk899 Musang, you also here ar? Patience la bro. This one also must dumb dumb hold.
23/09/2017 18:14
23/09/2017 18:17
ooihk899 musang bro, pls don't promote this counter in HRC, later all lalat come here, WE diam diam tight tight hold good enough.
23/09/2017 22:56

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yfchong RM 1.2 susah lah $$$ n other investment oredi... Rm 1.xx about lah....if rm1.2 sure pasar borong or wholesale $$$$$.
31/08/2017 17:25
milo8888 http://m.timesofindia.com/business/international-business/lumber-shares-rise-on-bets-for-post-harvey-demand/articleshow/60311921.cms
01/09/2017 00:30
yfchong short supply
01/09/2017 08:06
aliyusof Yup, imminently short supply envisaged
.
04/09/2017 08:05
Jordon Lim Why drop like no tomorrow?
05/09/2017 14:56
hng33 bought FL at 1.52
05/09/2017 15:44
tianyue anyone know why?
05/09/2017 16:09
ELTcap Run
05/09/2017 17:14
yfchong hng33 is back...
05/09/2017 17:23
doock Bankrupt
05/09/2017 19:24
lkoky i tot hng33 already sailang in jtiasa
05/09/2017 19:31
Jordon Lim Maybe tong dispose his share holding in fl so his follower follow also,lol
05/09/2017 22:25
ELTcap Sommore coming
06/09/2017 12:58
yfchong ah ya drop lah
06/09/2017 14:08
investabc Buy more Mr. Lin
08/09/2017 19:59
ELTcap Ask yourself,where does the investment went to?
09/09/2017 17:12
tkt66 NCPS = 1.192, EPV with no grow, Re 15%, add back div 6sen = at least 2.6. Auditor is E&Y, why selling at 1.51?
09/09/2017 19:06
yfchong keep lah... is impatience vs patience
10/09/2017 19:09
tkt66 2,017(TTM) 2,016 2017 Q2 2017 Q2 S
ROE Net 11.08% 11.70% 12.95% 7.57%
ROA Net 10.51% 10.21% 12.29% 7.18%
ROIC 40.58% 27.39% 47.53% 27.44%
DY ?% 3.97% 3.97% 3.97%

Not a good business model?
11/09/2017 17:48
yfchong boleh lah roic greater than wacc.. ey hosieh bo...duduk dian diam
11/09/2017 20:28
tkt66 2,017(TTM) 2,016 2017 Q2 2017 Q2 S
EY (AT) 64.06% 30.80% 75.04% 43.32%
EPS Net 0.181 0.181 0.212 0.124
NCPS 1.192 0.895 1.192 1.192
PE Net 8.32 8.34 7.12 12.18
13/09/2017 21:26
tkt66 2,017(TTM) 2,016 2017 Q2
CFFO 44,843 14,068 36,675
PPE/CFFO 2.7% 4.5% 2.7%
(PPE+OA)/CFFO 2.7% 4.5% 2.7%
Capex/CFFO 2.7% 4.5% 2.7%
13/09/2017 21:28
tkt66 minimum capex to get good cash return, not good meh?
13/09/2017 21:28
tkt66 who is going to bising to the directors to increase the dividend? keep so much cash for what?
13/09/2017 21:32
yfchong up down up down the hart not strong sure.... pengsan
14/09/2017 13:17
Jordon Lim yfchong, ok lar since this is not a goreng stock. If goreng stock baru heart can pengsan
14/09/2017 13:19
yfchong cool bro. jordan boring mah.... come come n leave some non important notes
14/09/2017 13:32
hng33 sold back all FL at 1.55-1.56,lock profit, free up capital first
14/09/2017 15:23
Jordon Lim @yfchong. Boring can play some goreng counter. 2 days ago played mqtech, win abit faster run d. Arbo kena lock at there. Dam exciting wan...lol
14/09/2017 17:13
yfchong bro jordan... no lah....i takut takut hart no strong...
14/09/2017 20:09
Jordon Lim someone promoting flbhd. mentioned that 1st tp 1.65. if close above 1.6 today, might have an even stronger rebound. Just sharing
15/09/2017 12:11
yfchong hope not uncle k
15/09/2017 13:16
Jordon Lim not uncle k lar,haha
15/09/2017 13:17
jayawin @Jordon Lim, may i know which one in promoting FLBHD? Can share the link here, thanks.
15/09/2017 14:21
Jordon Lim @jayawin , stock alliance. just type stock alliance and join their group.
15/09/2017 14:38
limhh RM strengthen now, not good for FLBHD.
15/09/2017 14:48
limhh want to goreng goreng for few cents gain maybe can. prospect for FLBHD is very challenging.
15/09/2017 14:49
limhh but remember to run before those group take profit.
15/09/2017 14:52
yfchong Boss Lin buy or sell leh....
16/09/2017 10:33
yfchong takut takut.... nanti pergi bursa tukar statement...
17/09/2017 09:53
Jordon Lim jgn takut, he change anot same oly for now, cos share price already near bottom,lol
17/09/2017 09:55
stockraider Posted by yfchong > Sep 17, 2017 09:53 AM | Report Abuse

takut takut.... nanti pergi bursa tukar statement... !!

THIS TIME, IF BOSS LIM TUKAR STATEMENT LAGI, SOME PEOPLE WILL DEFINITELY MAKE A POLIS REPORT IN BUKIT AMAN KL LOH...!!
17/09/2017 10:13
leny These 2 events make me have a bad impression on the director.
1. tukar statement from buy to sell, tipu public.
2. dispose shares right before they announce bad quarter.

Clearly, they take advantage of insider information. It is okay to sell own shares, but as insider, they should sell during outside of blackout period. Although bursa did not have a law about this, director should practice highest level of integrity to gain shareholder confident.
17/09/2017 17:23
leny Even Mr Tong from TheEdge sold his position at loss at 1.52, maybe he fedup with this too.
17/09/2017 17:27
yfchong bye bye.....
18/09/2017 13:13
10bagger10 Buy buy...
20/09/2017 09:15
Fabien Extraordinaire something to ponder..demand for plywood to rise due to hurricane in US?
22/09/2017 12:22
Vivian Saw http://www.whas11.com/mobile/article/news/local/plywood-other-building-supplies-in-demand-after-harvey-irma/474604471
23/09/2017 16:17
yfchong keep lah
23/09/2017 22:33
Harold Huong Mexico City need more plywood
23/09/2017 22:49


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