One of the biggest myth I encounter throughout my investing and professional career is the nature of associate stake.
There is a widespread belief that associate stake is merely accounting profit. You can't access the cash flow. In other words, can see but cannot touch.
For example, qqq3's comments today :
Is that true ? Before I even go into details to disprove the myth, let me just ask you a simple question :
You buy 1,000 Maybank shares, do you have control ? You don't, right ? But do you get dividend from Maybank ? Yes, you do.
The same is true for associate stake. Between 2010 and 2018, MBM Resources received a total of RM515 mil dividend from its Perodua associate stake, equivalent to RM57 mil per annum.
That is how it looked like in the accounts (FY2017 and FY2016, for illustration purpose) :
Based on 391 mil shares, the average dividend of RM57 mil received is equivalent to RM0.15 per share per annum, which could be used to pay dividend to MBM Resources shareholders. (The highest dividend ever paid by MBM Resources is RM0.17 per share in FY2015.)
As for "control", that is a non issue, in my opinion. Perodua has a stable and diversified shareholding structure, held by UMW, MBM, Daihatsu, PNB and Mitsui.
These are all very strong shareholders. Check and balance is hence not an issue. There is no need to have dominant stake. Anyway, it is a common practice to have Shareholders' Agreement to govern the operations. The Perodua group in its current structure has been in existence since 1994. So far there is no issue of shareholders conflict.
Concluding Remarks
Far from just accounting profit, MBM's 22% associate stake in Perodua is packed with flesh and blood and generates real economic benefit. Every year it contributes more than RM50 mil cash inflow to MBM Resources, which in turn is distributed to reward loyal shareholders.
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wait... jaks also owns associate stake in IPP.
then that is similar as MBM, right ?
LOL
(lets see how qqq3 argue back)
2019-01-03 16:17
don't dream too much Icon uncle. Please always remember every company is different. No hope on Jaks. I already elaborated to you. It's up to you to accept what I said. I can only say I know their characters better than you.
2019-01-03 21:39
qqq3
Posted by qqq3 > Jan 3, 2019 04:04 PM | Report Abuse X
as for Jaks and IPP....no worries...IPP got very high dividend payout ratios and Jaks will not suffer similar fate.
Perodua....about 40% dividend payout ratio...no wonder PE ratis below average
Jaks IPP....IPP normally 90% to 100% payout ratio.......here, expect normal PEs.
2019-01-03 16:11