Stockraider,

Not bad , today learn a eat shit theory of stock market free lesson from a so called accountant.

Posted by stockmanmy > Jan 9, 2017 11:13 AM | Report Abuse

-the greatest player in Malaysia , someone vastly richer than KYY , told me.....the way to play the stock market is to charge first when you see people charging ......eat shit if you see people want to eat shit.....and charge out when it is time to charge out.
The crowd makes the market....play with them, make use of them.
Be brave.
You will learn with experience......and of course with plenty of privileged information.

U TALK RUBBISH LOH...!
DON TELL ME PEOPLE LIKE QUEK LENG CHAN AND TEH HIONG PIOW IT SHIT MEH ??

Posted by stockraider > Jan 9, 2017 11:36 AM | Report Abuse

RUBBISH LOH....!!
U MUST LOOK AT THE PRICE U PAY MAH....!!
U BUY GOOD ROE....WHEN U GET REASONABLE PE, THEN WORTHWHILE LOH..!!

IF U OVERPAY LIKE PET DAG...PE ABOVE 20X SURE DIE MAH...!!

Hahaha, newbie teach old dog.

Paperplane2016, as an investment co, you can't charge much expenses for investment activity. Inland Revenue definitely will not allow it especially the expenses highlighted by you.
Just imagine if you make dividend + capital gain of a million yearly, you are subjected to 25% tax and Inand Revenue may query your unnecessary expenses?
You may end up slow down compounding your capital growth.
A smart move for personal investment is to do ipersonally n quietly.

Happy new year Calvin..

Paperplane2016, I am not reach the status of being called Sifu. I am just an ordinary investors cum traders . You can address me MG will do.

In that case, Fong Siling could not be Cold eyes.

What KC stands for,? There is a person with a name Chong Kong soong ,That's why I said I can see while others can't. Can I so busybody ask KC directly that is his real name?

Can you see cold eyes name in any listed co? Penang Lang? To certain extend read AR intelligently with imagination.

I can see KC's name in Pintaras why others can't? This shows KC “有料到“，he preaches what he said.

Directors said cash must conserve in the company for potential investment opportunity.I think as for as listed company is concerned , if opportunity has arise, the directors can always call right issues, why bother to keep so much cash in hand?
Further, do you notice directors fees in past 5 years has keep rising from merely $2m p.a to more than $10 lately.
cash is conserved to serve the family of directors as the growth rate of the company is not as fast as the growth rate of directors fees.
I did raise this question during previous few yrs AGM. Directors just ignore.
Moreover, The directors did burn the Tax CRedit avaiable of around $100m for not fully utilising it and just let it lapse.

One of the most important criteria is the tax problem.
If you invest via fund management co, capital gain for holding investment in short term and medium term will be subject to normal business tax rate. I. e 25% in addition of your dividend received.
2nd, a lot of paper recoding and accounts keeping works are involved and maintenance cost of the company which subject to audit as well as filing work which is not necessary for individual but fund management co is unavoidable.
3rd, unless you can form a boutique fund house with funds contributed by friends or relatives but that require an operating license from SC if I am not mistaken. Then, cost incurred can be shoulders among investors.
4th, for personal investment, why take the trouble?

KC Chong , salute your courteous reply with substantial facts. It reminds me 在三国演義， 我记得周雨说的一句话，“世上已有了孔明，何必再生周雨！“

I think discharge a boutique fund manager service is nothing to shout about. To use the word "SACK" may be too much.
When a fund manager sees his client "Perangai Angin", after a short while, I doubt he will manage his money in longer term. Who knows KC Chong may discharged himself, We got to wait for KC Chong side of story.

I sold all when it reaches the peak and made another round when it came down to about $3.2+ and sold $4 plus. left some for split to watch the show.

It came down so fast , i think the PP who buy the MD story can't wait , just dump the shares irregardless of the price.

This co has increased its factories in various locations in Malaysia and Southern Thailand.But can't generate much revenue for last 5 yrs. Year in year out, its revenue range from $360m to $400m. No major surge in revenue, where can it generates profit.

So many MOU Signed for last few weeks, merely training skill workers mostly Bumiputra in hope of getting orders from these so called new skill workers. However, if Election is held in next year, where can get order as government run out of money after election.

Cimb and Uobkayhian coincidentally advise traders to take positioning this stock with target price range between $1.68 to$1.81
They pointed out this stock has strong uptrend with higher high and higher low.
It's RSi, MACD and all MA have show positive sign of resuming uptrend.
DMI also start crossing meaning strong uptrend.

hng33,

wish you all the best n good luck

hgn33,

counter ini pakai margin juga.....

mesti ikut beli juga

Hng33,

walao, pakai margin beli...mesti sapu sikit.

Hng33,
banyak sokong jtiasa...

mesti ada sebab.

As long as company's products have qualities, Wilmer will take all as it wants to be industrial food empire. Management wise, Wilmer has a lot of talented managers.

I quate cold eyes'名训 "不要刻舟求剑“

Please don't scold me stupid and dump hor, I just passed this simple rule from I read and learn from I3 investor. This is my sincere disclaimer.

Hahaha, according to INVESTAR, when local prominent investor cum philanthropist make a buy call, you must sell, conversely, when he make a sale call, you must buy.
Just follow this simple rule of thumps

Our government sure run out of money, how easy is our Bloody Najib being a finance minister table his 2017 budget and not even need to discuss the variance on previous year's budget.
The quarterly reports lodged by listed companies in Bursa is more complicated in the sense that it has to provide reasons for variance between current quarter and previous quarter , current quarter and same quarter previous year.
At least the format of yearly budget presentation must par with that of bursa.

ali, now i see you are one who slaughter the fat pigs, yet you are shouting to the pigs not to grown up fast and fat. very clever..... hahaha

i digested what kon-kon informed us in i3 forum, i did my study and prepare for the right time to execut the orders , patiently waited for fruits to mature and harvest it. That all.
He informed us with his preparation to exit, after seeing jaya tiasa history, I know his ball of game.

i don't like the behavior of both. It reminds of my boss in my earlier year of my career, they can shout at you.... but once you talk back, they sabul you.... without good reasons

hahaha, another recommended counter by kon-kon not long ago. may be kon-kon exit then the boat not so heavy, can move faster.
Taniah kepada kok-kon.

Further, if you look high up on TTB, I suggest why not you place your fund for him to manage? Please reflect it in your half yearly portfolio and let us follow?
We are talking about facts and not simply hammering anybody in I3 investors forum .
Please don't admire a person by his name but on his performance or beahvior.

I have browsed through your Blog, you have written an article 股海十年 dated 30th Dec 2013, you mentioned clearly 人生有几多个十年（港剧：柴九的名句）。在股海漂浮了十年.that means time is money. isn't it?
That is the reason why I disagreed and Criticised Self Proclaimed Valued fund manager TTB who had wasted its shareholders opportunity for last 5-6 years time.
The Solid Facts is clearly shown in Icap Bhd annual report.
If he is really consistently good in his performance rather than doing Placement of FD with drawing of substantial management fee. I think I3 members will not hesitate to praise him instead of hammering him

Icap Biz hahaha....
TTB suka-suka feed in his comparisons at his fancy.

In the early few years, when Icap bhd was doing well, every year during Icap Bhd AGM, he boasted himself his performance was better than Warren Buffett with colorful graph showing how well his performance if compared with Berkshire Hathaway as both are closed fund. He claim he is warren Buffett of east......

In the latest 3 to 5 years, he don't even dare to show his Compounded growth for 3 years and 5 years performances respectively. Not to mentioned his comparative performance with Berkshire Hathaway.

He only show his cumulative performance since Icap Biz inception .

For any fund house report, the standard reporting is to have performance for 3, 5 and from date of its inception.....

I can't agree more what have quoted by you:

"Time is a friend of a great business, and it is an enemy of a lousy business"

Tong Kooi Ong starts his value investing column in The Edge weekly Paper about a year of so, it is funny that he can still find valued in many companies listed in Bursa while our self proclaimed valued fund manager Tiam-Taim Boo can't locate these companies since 5-6 years ago.
If both are using the same method of investing, why Tiam Yiam Boo just can't do it?
Further Tong Kooi Ong only raised his cash level lately where else Tiam Tiam Boo raised his cash level since 2010 with all sorts of economic bullshit excuses.
In summary, he is totally sleeping on his job at expense of icap shareholders.
A Fd placement fund manager should not procalimed as valued investors.

Key element of investment decision involves with common sense, informative subscription will not sell cheap and lousy subscription worth only $25 or less. So, it's quality is nothing more than TOILET PAPER. If you don't mind use it to wipe your buttock .hahahahaha......

CP Teh, why dream of working for monkey? Should work for human lah.

We have enjoy bull market for last 6 years n our capital has grown . We are ready to reduce our investment while our Ttb is sour grape. Hahahaha . This so called Fund Manager ? or That is right, monkey manager.

吃不到葡萄就说葡萄是酸。哈哈ha

CP Teh, why dream of working for monkey? Should work for human lah.

We have enjoy bull market for last 6 years n our capital has grown . We are ready to reduce our investment while our Ttb is sour grape. Hahahaha . This so called Fund Manager ? or That is right, monkey manager.

吃不到葡萄就说葡萄是酸。哈哈ha

Of course the end result of holding so much cash is due to wrong forecast of bearish markets since last 6years. What is so proud of it..... Yet dare to let public know. .... Beh pai sai..... What is the inflation rate for past 6yrs....cash has disminished in real value....

Of course the end result of holding so much cash is due to wrong forecast of bearish markets since last 6years. What is so proud of it..... Yet dare to let public know. .... Beh pai sai..... What is the inflation rate for past 6yrs....cash has disminished in real value....

Hopeless fund manager, his performance can't even beat the FD rates in last 5 years.

狼来了，狼来了。有一天狼 一定会来。What is considered " chun chun forecast" for this lousyTTB fund Manager?

By right why not treating investment lesson as an additional subject which is not cover in school or university or part time lesson that may be useful in future, who knows?

I remember in Dr. Neoh Soon Kean's book, Stock Market Investment in Malaysia and Singapore. There was a case where a Doctor's son was forced by his Doctor father to pursue and complete his medical course , but the son was not actually keen with his medical study. However the son tried to pick up extra courses in his University, He saw a lecturer who drove a beautiful Porsche in his campus, later , he found out that lecturer was teaching investment course, he told himself that the lecturer must be good in his personal investment and be able to drive nice sport car. In oversea university, the student is allowed to participate other courses on his personal capacity without sitting examine. He followed that lecturer's investment course and picked up his investment knowledge.

when he was back to Malaysia after practised a few years and after accumulated some capital, he started to invest in Malaysia market and make many time more than his medical practice.

I think it is no harm for others to have extra skill as long as he has spare time.

It reminds me Hong Kong tycoon Lee Ka Sing use to advise young people " everyone has equal 24 hours per day, during the office hours, you must contribute your best to your company, you must also pursue 2nd career after office hours by read as much as possible or do what you like best because who knows, that may turn out to be your lifeline either you got retrenched or meeting misfortune event."

I believe those people who follow his advice will live better and comfortable in life .

King36

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Simon Westlake
City of London Investment Group
020 7711 1552
simon.westlake@citlon.co.uk

Posted by speakup > Sep 27, 2016 06:54 AM | Report Abuse

during the property theme bull, ICAP bought 0 property counters
during the export theme bull, ICAP bought 0 export counters
during the construction theme bull, ICAP bought 0 construction counters
now in the steel theme bull, ICAP bought 0 steel counters

WHAT IS THIS????? ICAP MISSING ALL THE BOAT!!!!!



Becos he is sleeping on his Job

Posted by ckkhen > Sep 27, 2016 09:46 AM | Report Abuse

During the Saturday afternoon talk, TTB said his favourite heroes are Mao Tse Tung and Lee Kuan Yew. So now we understand how he runs icap.
Dictatorial style. Look at China and S'pore now. So successful



Wow, suddenly Mao Tse Tung and Lee Kuan Yew Style of managing fund,
No more value investing? all these changes are overnight? Not formulated and properly announced ? For his naive ,loyal supporters?

May be next year, he will announce loudly like our MO1, I am not a crook, but my private accounts full of $2.6 billions......

why you so stupid listened to me previously lie.....