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428 comment(s). Last comment by Fam Jenny 2016-02-01 09:20

DreamPredator

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Posted by DreamPredator > 2016-01-10 03:55 | Report Abuse

What a big, bad, bloddy load of bollocks

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-10 07:55 | Report Abuse

DreamPredator,you are a free moral agent,you can choose not yo serve God because never forces anyone to worship Him.You can choose your own ways and Jehovah can choose his people for the paradise earth because He is the creator and rightful owner of the Universe which including the earth.His laws and thoughts are spelt out in the bible by inspiring men to write his thoughts through his Holy spirit.
You are free to have your own thoughts and we have the rights tobelieve in every word of the bible,let's see who are the sinners st the end.

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-10 08:02 | Report Abuse

Correction:.......you can choose not to serve God because He never forces
anyone.....
......who are the winners at the end.

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-10 08:11 | Report Abuse

Pharoah fought against Jehovah and at the end He tricked him and all his army,horses died in th Red Sea.
You should know your consequences and God will warn humans his action against the wicked before He brings about the destruction.

DreamHunter

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Posted by DreamHunter > 2016-01-10 08:15 | Report Abuse

Next week you FamJenny are going to drown in a Sea of Red ...

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-10 08:40 | Report Abuse

Dreamhunter,a week ago someone like you had cursed me to have spots on my body that night but nothing happened so he proved to be a liar.
You are another empty vessel and there is something wrong with your mentality.

DreamPredator

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Posted by DreamPredator > 2016-01-10 13:12 | Report Abuse

Naaah, that was someone else ...

DreamHunter

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Posted by DreamHunter > 2016-01-11 14:56 | Report Abuse

I told ya, FamJenny, that this week you wud be bathing in a Sea of Red ... Well, was I lying then? ... I was, was I? ... Go check your Glotec Sea today ...

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-11 15:44 | Report Abuse

Dreamhunter,you said I would be drown in red sea not bathing in red sea.

jester

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Posted by jester > 2016-01-11 15:54 | Report Abuse

Hahaha. These preachers man. It is interesting to see people debate. But I still think this is not the medium to do so. It does entertain though.

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-11 16:15 | Report Abuse

It is better to persuade or deceive people to buy shares now,causing people to lose their pants i.e their means of livihood.

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-11 16:18 | Report Abuse

Correction:It is better than persuading or deceiving.....

Desa20201956

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Posted by Desa20201956 > 2016-01-11 16:21 | Report Abuse

Jenny

the evangelical Party of America, Bush and Co are not good role models.

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-11 16:37 | Report Abuse

Desa20201956,I total agree with you.Jesus said,'Not all that called me,"Lord,Lord" shall enter the kingdom of God but I will say to them,"You workers of lawlessness,get away from me".
Jesus asked us to distinguish true Christians from false Christians from the frits of works they produce.

DreamMaster

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Posted by DreamMaster > 2016-01-12 10:47 | Report Abuse

yah kah

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-12 12:41 | Report Abuse

Dreammaster,And then!

DreamMaster

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Posted by DreamMaster > 2016-01-12 13:00 | Report Abuse

Start gathering some real wisdom, FamJenny ... Now, you can begin with this bit ...

http://www.space.com/31192-what-triggered-the-big-bang.html

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-12 15:26 | Report Abuse

The bible talks about God being the creator of the Universe in Genesis,I trust the bible because it is consistent harmonious in its prophesies and the most important factor written by writers with creditable and reliable personalities.
Any prophesies written will without fail come to be fulfilled and with minute details.
Whereas a lot of stories written without consistency and by one writer only but the bible is written by different 40 authors and in different generations yet they support one another and do not challenge each other validity.To me it is from one source i.e inspired by God to write it.

DreamMaster

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Posted by DreamMaster > 2016-01-12 16:42 | Report Abuse

No, you hv not even bothered to glance thru what I hv given you, hv you? ... You still want to stick to your old fairy tale ...

DreamMaster

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Posted by DreamMaster > 2016-01-12 17:40 | Report Abuse

I guess your writer reckoned dat the Big Bang was what he did with his new bride on their wedding night ... ki ki ki ...

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-13 00:07 | Report Abuse

DreamMaster,the bibles talk about the existence of spirit realm long before the creation of the earth and its living things.Jesus being the firstborn was the co worker with Jehovah in the creation of the universe.
The creation of the earth with the big bang to create our milky ways had happened much later bcos the creation of other milky ways of the spirit realm had happened much earlier.
Whether this creation of our started big bang nobody knew afterall all ou including the author were not there to witness the big bang and the author was only a human who hsd not lived that long.
Whereas Jehovah and Jesus already existed long long ago and they were the creator and co-worker respectively of the universe so their saying carried 100% reliability.

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-13 00:14 | Report Abuse

Correction:Whether the creation of our milky way started with a big bang nobody knew afterall all of us including the author were not there to witness.....

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-13 07:16 | Report Abuse

During these 'last days',the preaching works will be intensified by Jesus and angels to separate the wicked ftom the good ones.(Matthew 13,40).

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-13 10:15 | Report Abuse

Let us continue to seek the truth,be blessed by Jehovah and have salvation.

DreamSorcerer

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Posted by DreamSorcerer > 2016-01-13 11:52 | Report Abuse

But the physicists hv a proper method in their research & investigation. The same category of methods that hv been successfully used to generate electricity, build cars, highways & buildings, and launch rockets & other sophisticated craft into space.

What hv your authors got, apart from some tale spinning skill. But they were much better at it than you, for sure.

DreamSorcerer

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Posted by DreamSorcerer > 2016-01-13 11:52 | Report Abuse

Neither were your authors. None of them were there to witness anything at all either.

DreamSorcerer

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Posted by DreamSorcerer > 2016-01-13 13:20 | Report Abuse

It seems you still hv a lot to learn, FamJenny ... A real, real lot ... Despite your previous fervent claims about having once been a lecturer in mathematics la, chemistry la, physics la ...

You hv to separate the occurrence of the Big Bang from the formation of the Sun and the appearance of Earth ... They did not all happen together at the same bloddy time, you know ... But of course, you wud rather be believing what your 'infallible' authors told you, i.e. everything suddenly appeared 6 thousand years ago, right? ...

The Big Bang occurred 13.8 bil years ago, by the majority of estimates ... The Sun only formed 5.6 bil years ago ... While Mother Earth only appeared 4.54 bil years ago ...

Ancestors of humans appeared only 6 mil years ago ... How they really looked like that time wud be anyone's guess ...

While modern humans, i.e. homo sapiens, only appeared on this planet at best only about 200,000 years ago ...

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-13 17:30 | Report Abuse

DreamSorcerer,Did I tell you in a nick of second the earth suddenly appeared.The 6 thousands years refer to mankind's existence from Adam'beginning until now.
It took sixth creative days to create everything on earth from beginning until Eve was created.
In Genesis 1:2,5,'Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep and God's active force was moving to and fro over the surface of the water.
5. And God began calling the light Day but the darkness he called Night.And there came to be evening and there came to be morning,a first
day'.
To us one creative day is 7 thousands years and Jehovah took 6 creatve days which is 42,000 years to complete the creation of everything on earth.
In Genesis 1:1,'In (the) beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
So it was not stated how long God took to create the heavens and angels but it was created before the earth and humans.
Redarding your billion of years it is only guesswork of humans without anyone to support it.

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-13 21:35 | Report Abuse

A lot of time is needed to do research on bible prophesies which are very interesting.

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-14 12:32 | Report Abuse

Hence it is good to ponder over whether it is true that we have everlasting life ftom these prophesies.

DreamSorcerer

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Posted by DreamSorcerer > 2016-01-14 12:56 | Report Abuse

Posted by Fam Jenny > Jan 13, 2016 05:30 PM | Report Abuse

Redarding your billion of years it is only guesswork of humans without anyone to support it.
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It is called mathematical modelling, based on all combined available state of the art knowledge in all fields of mathematics, chemistry & physics ... Unless you still wanna insist that all the underpinning principles all these numerous scientific disciplines are all complete, total bunkum ...

It is accepted by the great majority of all the scientists in this world ... But not YOUR world, of course ...

And WHERE is the support for all your fairy tale claims ... Including the 6,000 year old age of modern humanity theory ... WHERE is the scientific backing for them ...

DreamSorcerer

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Posted by DreamSorcerer > 2016-01-14 12:59 | Report Abuse

Maybe you're still not aware that even the Catholic Church has already embraced the Big Bang model of Universe creation, FamJenny ...

Your 6,000 year old humanity model is now passe, FamJenny ... Out-of-this-world passe ...

DreamSorcerer

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Posted by DreamSorcerer > 2016-01-14 15:57 | Report Abuse

Becos they don't want to make another big mistake ... The same kind of big mistake that they committed in disagreeing with scientist Galileo Galilei in the 17th century, to the point of ex-communicating the man...

And they only found the courage to admit their mistake FOUR centuries later & retracted that ex-communication ...

Well, they were FOUR centuries too late, weren't they? ...

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-14 22:39 | Report Abuse

DreamSoucerer,I will believe in the instructions of the inspired bible in winning God's approval rather than listening to the nonsense of human's calculation and other rubbish.In rev 22:11 it mentions,'Let the one unrighteous continue in unrighteousness,and let the fifthy one continue in his filth;but let the righteous one continue in righteousness,and let the holy one continue in holiness.
In rev 22:14,15 Happy are those who wash their robes so that they may have the authority to go to the trees of life and they may gain entrance into the city through its gates.15.'Outside are the dogs and those who practice spiritism and those who are sexually immoral and the murderers and idolaters and everyone who loves and
practices lying.
We are on different level of frequencies of thinking,you base on human thinking and I base on the written bible supported by billions of humans in different era.

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-14 23:03 | Report Abuse

DreamSorcerer,when Eve came to life it was the end of the sixth creative day and the beginning of the seventh creative day which Jehovah God called it a Sabbath Day,a day of rest in Genesis 2:3.
Since Adam's time to now is 6000+ years but the age gap between Adam and Eve is unknown,we cannot tell from Eve to when(?) is 6000years.
But the bible mentions 1000 years(no works of creation) for human to reach perfection and plus the 6000years of human existence(no work of creation)=7000years make up of the 7th creative day.
For 6 creative days=6x7000years=42,000 years.

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-15 10:19 | Report Abuse

From the genealogy of Jesus christ to king David to Adam and from Jesus Christ to Sept 1974,it is roughly about 6000 years.But from Eve to judgement day is 6000years plus the 1000years of mankind restoration of perfection=7000years.
Let assume the age difference between Adam and Eve be x years.
Eve's birth is the beginning of 7th creative day and therefore to Sept 1974 is 6000-x years.
Hence 1974 + x = 6000years= 20xx=judgement year.
If x=50 years,then judgement year=1974+50=2024
If x=44 years,then judgement year=1974+44=2018.
So all this calculation will be only accurate if 1974 is correctly calculated and the age differrence is known.
Jesus said regarding the hour of judgement nobody would know except the the Father,Jehovah.
So in harmony with what Jesus had said,it was true to calculate the judgement day because 1)we didn't know the age different between Adam and Eve. 2)whether the year 1974 is 100% accurate because it might had some overlapping in months or days as we did not know the birthdays of evryone.
Fortunately Jesus gave us the signs of the 'last days' and prophesies to know the imminence of the judgement day through its fulfilment of these signs and prophesies.Also he said from the budding of the flowers or trees you know summer is near.

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-15 10:25 | Report Abuse

Correction:.......it was true, to calculate the Judgement Day it was difficult or immpossible because.....

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-15 14:55 | Report Abuse

You need to put up a thinking cap to grasp the calculation of 6000 years from the beginning of the seventh creative day or end of the sixth creative when Eve began alive.

speakup

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Posted by speakup > 2016-01-15 14:56 | Report Abuse

Mr Koon, do u give scholarships to children of umno members?

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-15 16:47 | Report Abuse

Any student who excels in studies and is deserving should be awarded accordingly irregardless of his political background

DreamSorcerer

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Posted by DreamSorcerer > 2016-01-17 13:26 |

Post removed.Why?

DreamSorcerer

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Posted by DreamSorcerer > 2016-01-17 15:49 |

Post removed.Why?

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-01-17 22:08 | Report Abuse

DreamSorcer,pls read my explanation in the forum,Shanghai craters,from stage 1 about Adam's and Eve's rebellion that explains why God must destroy bad humans under the 7th angel of pouring the bowl of plague of God's anger.

DreamCapturer

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Posted by DreamCapturer > 2016-01-19 12:42 | Report Abuse

I don't fancy reading a fairy tale, FamJenny ... It's okay for a bit of fun, I can even write some myself ... But to take seriously & digest is a completely different kettle of fish altogether ...

Posted by DreamConqueror > 2016-01-31 01:07 | Report Abuse

Looks like FamJenny is beaten

Posted by DreamConqueror > 2016-01-31 01:11 | Report Abuse

Defeated

DreamSorcerer

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Posted by DreamSorcerer > 2016-01-31 02:01 | Report Abuse

Vanquished

Posted by Laughgaodiemeliao > 2016-01-31 02:05 | Report Abuse

human has existed far more than 7000 years when u claim the Adam and Eve were born?

DreamCruiser

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Posted by DreamCruiser > 2016-01-31 02:46 | Report Abuse

Conquered

Fam Jenny

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Posted by Fam Jenny > 2016-02-01 09:20 | Report Abuse

Pls go to forum 'blog:shanghai craters i3' for more knowledge of everlasting life for humans.

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