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RiverOfSilver

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Posted by RiverOfSilver > 2021-03-22 23:37 | Report Abuse

mita29, if you really seriously think that vietnam can really come up to scratch facing china alone, then you must be one really naive man

or woman

enning22

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Posted by enning22 > 2021-03-22 23:39 | Report Abuse

中国战狼·发癫发狂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srLRAcJtKTw

enning22

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Posted by enning22 > 2021-03-22 23:42 | Report Abuse

中国人不吃这一套!中国式爱国主义又进入一个战狼发情期
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyjWuIrFk1M&t=443s

mita29

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Posted by mita29 > 2021-03-22 23:43 | Report Abuse

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/South_China_Sea_claims_map.jpg

Based on the map, the philipines and vietnamese actually claimed islands belong to Malaysia area. So aside from cursing China, I say we should claim some islands there with our military before they do so loh. The Vietnamese are very aggressive ppl they will claim everything if we too slow loh.

Starship2

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Posted by Starship2 > 2021-03-22 23:48 | Report Abuse

The country spoilt its relationship with itsthe immediate neighbours and the west by adopting an agressive "wolf diplomacy" following the covid crisis.It created territorial issues with HK, Taiwan, Japan, Vietnam, India, Nepal, and the Phillipines besides ridiculing and bad mouthing european countries and the US on how they handled the covid crisis. And to top it all, the CCP is claiming almost the whole of the SCS, something that would be difficult to swallow by any country on earth. So it is difficult not to sympathise with the US and the other countries i have mentioned for the difficult situation they are put into by the CCP.

RiverOfSilver

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Posted by RiverOfSilver > 2021-03-22 23:53 | Report Abuse

We already claimed the biggest two islands falling within the 200 nautical mile EEZ from sabah coastline

We only claiming what is obviously ours according to UNCLOS

mita29

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Posted by mita29 > 2021-03-22 23:55 | Report Abuse

RiverofSilver, Do you know Vietnam actually beachslap China in Sino-Vietman war? Do you know Vietnam repelled 2-3 mongol invasions while China capitulated?

You are really underestimating Vietnam.

RiverOfSilver

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Posted by RiverOfSilver > 2021-03-23 00:43 | Report Abuse

Yep I know about them all, mita29

History is a big hobby of mine, so reading about & studying ancient battles is just right up my alley

RiverOfSilver

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Posted by RiverOfSilver > 2021-03-23 00:43 | Report Abuse

Battle of Bach Dang River 1288 was of course a fantastic victory for Vietnam

RiverOfSilver

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Posted by RiverOfSilver > 2021-03-23 00:44 | Report Abuse

Vietnam also got Russia as their all weather ally, something china might have to contend with in case of any major conflict with Vietnam

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-03-23 07:01 | Report Abuse

Did anyone know if not for China many SEA countries will be a vassal state of Soviet Union.

Don't take side, US is evil just look what had US done to Middle East. Do you want that happen to SEA?

China will be an emerging economy and military power and our neighbour. So study them, understand them for our own good.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-03-23 07:15 | Report Abuse

And by the way the Alaska US China meeting war of word is just a show for their respective internal consumption.

Ny036

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Posted by Ny036 > 2021-03-23 08:25 | Report Abuse

usa n europe now only can play sanction game. you think china, russia, mymmar care. look usa getting backward

Ny036

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Posted by Ny036 > 2021-03-23 08:28 | Report Abuse

soon all usa alliance will quietly distance itself with usa and quietly do cooperation with china.

Posted by BeastOfTheEast > 2021-03-23 11:01 | Report Abuse

Nope. Not really.

Under Biden, EU & NATO countries are moving back closer to US again. Britain & France now fast moving closer to the Quad (US + Australia + India + Japan) alliance.

Germany coming soon. Possibly Canada later.

Posted by BeastOfTheEast > 2021-03-23 11:02 | Report Abuse

The business cooperation is one thing. The political & military linkages are another.

Posted by BeastOfTheEast > 2021-03-23 11:14 | Report Abuse

No, we're not taking sides at all. But we just need to defend our interests in the context of SEA. SCS is geographically a part of SEA, not China.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-03-23 11:18 | Report Abuse

For trade,
Just think can EU depend on US for the market?
Know how big is China market?
And who is buying Malaysia Palm oil? EU talk bad about our palm oil.

Can EU depend on US to defend EU against Russia? EU should talk to Russia. US is hopeless.

So please no war just do business with each other and prosper together.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-03-23 11:31 | Report Abuse

Do you know Sebatik Island (Indonesian/Malay: Pulau Sebatik) is an island off the eastern coast of Borneo, partly within Indonesia and partly within Malaysia.

So should we start a war with Indonesia to claim the whole sebatik island belong to Malaysia or should Indonesia start a war with Malaysia to claim Sebatik island belong to Indonesia?

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-03-23 11:38 | Report Abuse

By the way Malaysia loss Pulau Batu Puteh to Singapore.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-03-23 11:46 | Report Abuse

And Najib sold out KTM land in Singapore for a song

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-03-23 12:04 | Report Abuse

Maybe Malaysia should make more reclamation Island in Johor, Melaka, Perak, Pulau Pinang, Trengganu and Pahang and sell it to China?

Posted by GoldenHarvest1 > 2021-03-23 12:24 | Report Abuse

We lost Pulau Batu Puteh simply becos Madey got personal competitive issue with LKY & he let that interfere with his professional judgement

Posted by GoldenHarvest1 > 2021-03-23 12:32 | Report Abuse

PBP was not that important to LKY at all. He was much more concerned with the water supply issue & he offered to nego everything including ktm land matter on package basis. But madey being madey with his stonehead stubbornness refused to compromise.

So lky just had to show him what singapore could do, including take PBP, via legal procedures.

But by the time PBP issue was resolved, Madey was already out & Pak Lah was PM. So it was easy for Madey & his camp to lay the blame on the Pak Lah administration.

Posted by GoldenHarvest1 > 2021-03-23 12:35 | Report Abuse

KTM land was in Singapore territory, so not viable for Malaysia to keep it for long term.

RiverOfSilver

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Posted by RiverOfSilver > 2021-03-23 13:02 | Report Abuse

You reckon so? Well, we shall see.

RiverOfSilver

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Posted by RiverOfSilver > 2021-03-23 13:26 | Report Abuse

Have you checked your figures yet, tobby old boy?

Well, in economic terms (based on GDP), china still #3 behind US & EU

While in military terms, still #3 behind US & Russia

RiverOfSilver

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Posted by RiverOfSilver > 2021-03-23 13:28 | Report Abuse

You can resort to desperate immature kiddy namecalling, tobby old boy, but it doesn't change anything at all

Alfonso

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Posted by Alfonso > 2021-03-23 13:49 | Report Abuse

kyy and najib should cooperate to do more charity to the poor people in our country. Thanks.

Want2Win

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Posted by Want2Win > 2021-03-23 13:54 |

Post removed.Why?

Want2Win

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Posted by Want2Win > 2021-03-23 13:57 | Report Abuse

rocket party guys including kyy every day tembak najib for so many years already

then how najib can respond positively

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-03-23 14:04 | Report Abuse

Haha,
Tobby is fanatic supporter of Trump US. He is trying to be sarcasm about China

Posted by ThePowerOfGlove > 2021-03-23 14:05 | Report Abuse

Why is everybody fighting over South China Sea?

https://youtu.be/sFFzOq0Z0Fc

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-03-23 14:12 | Report Abuse

Tobby believing china invincible like bruce lee la

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-03-23 14:16 | Report Abuse

itu bruce lee he fight world karate champion also he hamtam gaw gaw one

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-03-23 14:17 | Report Abuse

but hamtam in bruce lee movie only la

pjseow

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Posted by pjseow > 2021-03-23 14:44 | Report Abuse

South China Sea is an important sea route where a few trillions of trade pass through this sea every year. Both China, Japan , Korea, Vietnam , Philipines etc has both economic snd military interests on this important sea route. This sea belong to these asian countries and it is to the interests of these countries that this SCS be controlled by SEA countries. Unfortunately, Japan, Korea , Vietnam and Phullipines do not see it this way . They want the US to control SCS. They wants the US aircraft carriers to patrol the SCS. Will China sit still and watch that your trillions of import and export be hurt by someone powerful enough to control your passage? China do not have aircraft carriers . To mitigate this weakness , China need to build a few man made islands such that China can control this SCS.which.is the life blood of China. All the countries in SEA including China has been colonised by US,JAPAN , Britain, France, Portugal ,Belgium, Dutch etc and humiliated in the last 2 to 3 centuries with resources exploited .Of course China has suffered the most with 8 countries colonised her at the same time. China compensated with few islands taken over by these colonisers plus compensation amounted to few years GDP to these countries after losing a few wars with these countries. China will never accept another humiliation again. When its neighbours tried to get the US and the ex colonisers to patrol SCS, such threat could not be ignored .It is ironical these countries preferred their ex colonisers to patrol the SCS than China who has never colonise them but a victim itself of these ex colonisers.

Posted by ProsperousRealm > 2021-03-23 14:50 | Report Abuse

nice try, pjseow

Posted by ProsperousRealm > 2021-03-23 14:50 | Report Abuse

but try much harder next time

Posted by ProsperousRealm > 2021-03-23 14:51 | Report Abuse

your china in fact already have two ACs, now building one more

Posted by ProsperousRealm > 2021-03-23 14:58 | Report Abuse

SEA states alone not strong enough to defend against china territory grabbing in SCS, which rightly is by geography a part of SEA

That's why US & US allies now coming in to roll that back & set things right again

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-03-23 15:20 | Report Abuse

Once China was mighty China during Ming Dynasty. Laksmana Cheng Ho ship is 10 time bigger than columbus ship and China Armada had sailed to Malaysia, India and recent discovery even say Cheng Ho ship had reached Amerika.

So did China colonise those countries along the silk sea route?
Remember Melaka Sultanate Hang Tuah, Hang Li Poh?

Posted by GoldenHarvest1 > 2021-03-23 15:35 | Report Abuse

but zheng he did not grab SCS & call it china territory

pjseow

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Posted by pjseow > 2021-03-23 15:51 | Report Abuse

ProsperousRealm ,Which country did China grab?

Posted by GoldenHarvest1 > 2021-03-23 16:10 | Report Abuse

Looks like you have not been reading properly

pjseow

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Posted by pjseow > 2021-03-23 16:13 | Report Abuse

ProsperousRealm , China do not have AC more than 5 years ago when OBAMA openely decided to focus in the Pacific and SCS by having more military presence to contain the rise of China . When Japan claimed the Dayou island with the support of US , China knew their intention of containing her. China decided to build man make islands ( equivalent to non moving AC ) to counter your master US stronger military presence. China was provoked by Japan and your US military presence.

pjseow

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Posted by pjseow > 2021-03-23 16:37 | Report Abuse

ProsperousRealm, please look at the map. Daoyu island is 4 times nearer to China than Japan. By Geography , Daoyu belong to China as what you advocated .Why your US master supported Japan to nationalise Daoyu island ? Using your logical moral ground, Falkland should belong to Argentina. Why your master US did not set thing straight by asking his little brother Britain to return Falkland to ARGENTINA ?

Posted by ProsperousRealm > 2021-03-23 16:57 | Report Abuse

Diaoyu/Senkaku is political case. I have no position on that. But since you supporting the case for China ownership on basis of geographic proximity, then you should be doing the same for SCS. But why are you siding with China on SCS then. Two wrongs don't make a right.

While you are also a citizen Malaysia, not China.

As for Falklands, Brits have been living there as Brits since, what, mid 19th century, IIRC

I do support Falklands being returned to Argentinian sovereignity though. I believe latest UN decision on Falklands did support the case for Argentina.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-03-23 17:17 | Report Abuse

haha Tobby,
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-has-advantage-over-the-us-in-shipbuilding-2020-9?r=US&IR=T

China is the world's biggest shipbuilder, and its ability to rapidly produce new warships would be a 'huge advantage' in a long fight with the US, experts say

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