Posted by Sslee > 2021-05-13 13:10 | Report Abuse

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_China

The earliest known written records of the history of China date from as early as 1250 BC, from the Shang dynasty (c. 1600–1046 BC)

Ancient historical texts such as the Book of Documents (early chapters, 11th century BC), the Records of the Grand Historian (c. 100 BC) and the Bamboo Annals (296 BC) mention and describe a Xia dynasty (c. 2070–1600 BC) before the Shang, but no writing is known from the period, and Shang writings do not indicate the existence of the Xia.[5] The Shang ruled in the Yellow River valley, which is commonly held to be the cradle of Chinese civilization. However, Neolithic civilizations originated at various cultural centers along both the Yellow River and Yangtze River. These Yellow River and Yangtze civilizations arose millennia before the Shang. With thousands of years of continuous history, China is one of the world's oldest civilizations and is regarded as one of the cradles of civilization.

The Zhou dynasty (1046–256 BC) supplanted the Shang, and introduced the concept of the Mandate of Heaven to justify their rule. The central Zhou government began to weaken due to external and internal pressures in the 8th century BC, and the country eventually splintered into smaller states during the Spring and Autumn period. These states became independent and fought with one another in the following Warring States period. Much of traditional Chinese culture, literature and philosophy first developed during those troubled times.

Posted by Sslee > 2021-05-13 13:12 | Report Abuse

In 221 BC, Qin Shi Huang conquered the various warring states and created for himself the title of Huangdi or "emperor" of the Qin, marking the beginning of imperial China. However, the oppressive government fell soon after his death, and was supplanted by the longer-lived Han dynasty (206 BC – 220 AD). Successive dynasties developed bureaucratic systems that enabled the emperor to control vast territories directly. In the 21 centuries from 206 BC until AD 1912, routine administrative tasks were handled by a special elite of scholar-officials. Young men, well-versed in calligraphy, history, literature, and philosophy, were carefully selected through difficult government examinations. China's last dynasty was the Qing (1644–1912), which was replaced by the Republic of China in 1912, and then in the mainland by the People's Republic of China in 1949. The Republic of China retreated to Taiwan in 1949. Hong Kong and Macau transferred sovereignty to China in 1997 and 1999.

Chinese history has alternated between periods of political unity and peace, and periods of war and failed statehood—the most recent being the Chinese Civil War (1927–1949). China was occasionally dominated by steppe peoples, most of whom were eventually assimilated into the Han Chinese culture and population. Between eras of multiple kingdoms and warlordism, Chinese dynasties have ruled parts or all of China; in some eras control stretched as far as Xinjiang and Tibet, as at present. Traditional culture, and influences from other parts of Asia and the Western world (carried by waves of immigration, cultural assimilation, expansion, and foreign contact), form the basis of the modern culture of China.

Posted by stockraider > 2021-05-13 13:25 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-13 13:50 | Report Abuse

four principles eight virtues, none of that says any thing about democracy, God, gunpowder, freedom to slander,

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-13 14:00 | Report Abuse

now that China is rising, happy, united, strong.... u want China to try democracy, God, wars, freedom to slander.... slander forget it. no currency in China

Posted by Sslee > 2021-05-13 14:02 | Report Abuse

Confucius (Chinese: 孔夫子; pinyin: Kǒng Fūzǐ, "Master Kǒng"; 551–479 BCE) was a Chinese philosopher and politician of the Spring and Autumn period who was traditionally considered the paragon of Chinese sages. Widely considered one of the most important and influential individuals in human history, Confucius's teachings and philosophy formed the basis of East Asian culture and society, and remain influential today

The philosophy of Confucius—Confucianism—emphasized personal and governmental morality, correctness of social relationships (duty and responsibility).

The concept of "democracy, God, gunpowder, freedom to slander" was not yet invented during that period.

Posted by BeastOfTheEast > 2021-05-13 14:07 | Report Abuse

The wealthier the China people become, the louder will their calls for greater democracy grow

Posted by BeastOfTheEast > 2021-05-13 14:10 | Report Abuse

Freedom against oppression & suppression is an irrepressible primordial part of human nature since time immemorial

Posted by BeastOfTheEast > 2021-05-13 14:12 | Report Abuse

The authoritarian rule of ccp/xjp has a shelf life with an expiry date

Posted by BeastOfTheEast > 2021-05-13 14:13 | Report Abuse

Nothing can last forever

Posted by stockraider > 2021-05-13 14:14 | Report Abuse

U can do whatever things in china that u can do in usa loh!

Just that u cannot, so much talk kook & have mass votes pool, but u exchange this for stability, orderly rules of law & order and public safety in china loh!

Posted by BeastOfTheEast > May 13, 2021 2:07 PM | Report Abuse

The wealthier the China people become, the louder will their calls for greater democracy grow

Posted by BeastOfTheEast > May 13, 2021 2:10 PM | Report Abuse

Freedom against oppression & suppression is an irrepressible primordial part of human nature since time immemorial

Posted by AlsvinChangan > 2021-05-13 14:27 | Report Abuse

Long Live CCP thousand thousand century

Very sure You pupus also CCP not yet pupus

Posting from al Aqsa mosque Baitumukadis tanah Isreal

Posted by Sslee > 2021-05-13 14:50 | Report Abuse

"Freedom against oppression & suppression is an irrepressible primordial part of human nature since time immemorial"

So what had Arab Spring upraising acheived?

You need a culture of moral ethics to run a successful government. Many so called Democratic government are government of corrupt and unethical horse trading among political elite for the benefit of political elite.
The winner take all and the loser will be oppresed and suppressed.

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-13 15:00 | Report Abuse

haha... got a Pompeo clone here. but China is now interested in searching it's past. Confucius, Han, Tang, Ming, Yuan... even Mao era stuffs are getting popular

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-13 15:02 | Report Abuse

thankfully Mao is still a hero in China.... so how,? Pompeo clone can take it down?

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-05-13 15:11 | Report Abuse

Oppressed people of China. Rise up and over throw your CPP.

hahaha.....

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice......how?


Go ask Iraqis, Libya, Afgans what they think.

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-05-13 15:13 | Report Abuse

Oppressed people of China. Rise up and over throw your CPP.

How can u talk about oppressed people just when they eradicate poverty from 800 million?

Posted by BeastOfTheEast > 2021-05-13 15:15 | Report Abuse

Posted by Sslee > May 13, 2021 1:10 PM | Report

The Zhou dynasty (1046–256 BC) supplanted the Shang, and introduced the concept of the Mandate of Heaven to justify their rule. The central Zhou government began to weaken due to external and internal pressures in the 8th century BC, and the country eventually splintered into smaller states during the Spring and Autumn period. These states became independent and fought with one another in the following Warring States period.

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They say history keeps repeating itself. Looks like THAT is precisely what is gonna happen again. Another Zhou-like era.

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-05-13 15:15 | Report Abuse

Oppressed people of China. Rise up and over throw your CPP.

How can u talk about oppressed people just after the victory over the virus 2020 when every one is so proud of their handling of the virus?

Posted by stockraider > 2021-05-13 15:18 | Report Abuse

The china people are so happy with the Govt mah!

Only the misdirected people like the some of the pro western hongkies thought they are oppressed loh!

But what leh ? During british rule of HK, got implement universal sufferage for HK meh ?

Posted by qqq3333 > May 13, 2021 3:13 PM | Report Abuse

Oppressed people of China. Rise up and over throw your CPP.

How can u talk about oppressed people just when they eradicate poverty from 800 million?

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-05-13 15:22 | Report Abuse

Americans will call it a victory if china breaks down into warlord states.

but surely not some thing china wants.

Posted by stockraider > 2021-05-13 15:29 | Report Abuse

The probably of Usa states break off from USA will be as high as China states break off from China loh!

This is bcos alot southern USA states wanted independence from USA loh!


Posted by qqq3333 > May 13, 2021 3:22 PM | Report Abuse

Americans will call it a victory if china breaks down into warlord states.

but surely not some thing china wants.

Posted by pjseow > 2021-05-13 15:54 | Report Abuse

Beast of the East , Agree with you no party can last forever . PAP ruled Singapore for 60 years and continue to rule . BN ruled Malaysia for for 65 years and then collapsed replaced with PR and now Perikatan. It has been 3 years after the change . Are we seeing improvements ? India has change several governments in the last 74 years since its independence in 1947 . Does the government do anything concrete and solid in terms of poverty eradication , infrastructure developments ,eliminate the oppression of lower cast , reduce the rape cases and improve the rights of women ??? Slums were everywhere .There was no proper hygience and sewerage system .
There was a misconception that China do not have democracy . China elections are based on hierarchical electoral system whereby local People's congress are directly elected . All higher People's congress until National Peoples' congress are elected by the People's congress. In Malaysia , we are allowed to elect Adun and MPs but the MB , CM and Prime Minister are not elected by the peoples but by the Aduns or MPs respectively . Sometimes , the MB or CM may not be elected by the Aduns or MPs but by the top leader of the party . These appointments must also get the blessings of the Sultans and Agong .
In the last 40 years , China was ruled by Deng , Jiang , Hu and now Xi. On average one leader rule for about 10 years . LKY ruled Singapore for 30 years , DR M for 22 years and came back for another 2 years . Merkel ruled Germany for 16 years . Both LKY and Merkel had done very well and well like by their respective residents . At the end of the day, it is result that counts . Substance is more important than form . India can shout they are the biggest democracy in the world but their freedom to exercise their vote once in every 4 years plus their freedom to criticise the government means nothing to the majority poors & homeless who were denied the basic needs of decent livings .
To summarise , Deng Xiaoping famous quote " I dont care whether the cat is black or white , the one can catch mice is a good cat " is significant . He do not care what political or economic system , as long as the system can deliver and improve the lives of the peoples , it is a good system .

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-05-13 15:57 | Report Abuse

gloves cotton palm oil.... they have their reasons and not about human rights.

America and India are the world second and third largest cotton producers

Posted by chinaman > 2021-05-13 16:04 | Report Abuse

ok, boycott US product KFC, McDonald, Pizza Hut? wakaka

Posted by Sslee > 2021-05-13 17:31 | Report Abuse

Winston Churchill wrote, “Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

So China has long history and civilisation to learn from in order not to repeat the same mistake. But you cannot say so for USA.

Posted by stockraider > 2021-05-13 17:34 | Report Abuse

Learn from history lah...any political system or dynasty that can survive more than 400 years are extremely good loh, and non had survive more than 800 years loh!

Posted by BeastOfTheEast > May 13, 2021 3:15 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by Sslee > May 13, 2021 1:10 PM | Report

The Zhou dynasty (1046–256 BC) supplanted the Shang, and introduced the concept of the Mandate of Heaven to justify their rule. The central Zhou government began to weaken due to external and internal pressures in the 8th century BC, and the country eventually splintered into smaller states during the Spring and Autumn period. These states became independent and fought with one another in the following Warring States period.

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They say history keeps repeating itself. Looks like THAT is precisely what is gonna happen again. Another Zhou-like era.

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-05-13 20:54 | Report Abuse

Posted by chinaman > May 13, 2021 4:04 PM | Report Abuse

ok, boycott US product KFC, McDonald, Pizza Hut? wakaka
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boycott is a weapon not a destination.

Posted by BountyOfTheBourse > 2021-05-13 21:36 | Report Abuse

Bangladesh hits back after China envoy warns against joining Quad

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/Bangladesh-hits-back-after-China-envoy-warns-against-joining-Quad?utm_source=paid.outbrain.com&utm_medium=content%20retargeting&utm_campaign=IC%20MY%20OutbrainOver2minView30days&utm_content=RSSfeed&dicbo=v1-0bb8748c8126538a998f9e62e675bce4-00280e9c9208103b82992e13a5e43683ac-gbstcnldgrsdsljtmeztiljuhbrtmljygrsgeljzgjstayrvmvrwcnlgmu

Posted by BountyOfTheBourse > 2021-05-13 21:37 | Report Abuse

ha ha

Posted by BountyOfTheBourse > 2021-05-13 21:38 | Report Abuse

Who is China to simply be telling Bangladesh what to do leh

Posted by pjseow > 2021-05-13 22:02 | Report Abuse

Historically, a dynasty will be changed by uprising from its residents when their livelihood were threatened. Hunger, disease, homeless, inequality are the signs that a revolution.is imminent. Such phenomena does not happen in China today. India seems to have such phenomena today . The democraticlly elected government is hopeless. The signs are there. India will be disintegrated . The British inherited democratic system just does not work in India. The system created social division and serious corruption. India need a super strong leader to unify and standardise into one india. Today India comprises of many little India. The.first high speed train project just.cannot take off because of too many internal conflicts.It is a shame that the biggest democracy in the world is far far behind China . India is really a

扶不起的阿抖。

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-05-13 22:23 | Report Abuse

Ai Weiwei, dissident artists, HK youth protestors, well loved by Americans.

A win for them is what? right to immigrate to America?

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-05-13 22:29 | Report Abuse

Overseas education , 100 years already a much sought after privilege.

now, not so much...in fact the opposite is true.

and China has become a popular destination for foreigners to study in China...with more foreign students coming in than Chinese going out.

Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-05-13 23:18 | Report Abuse

what is the end goal of people like Ai Wei wei, like those HK youths? what is their strategy for a win? I mean beside a pat on their backs from China's enemies?

How smart can it be to fight without a strategy?

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-05-14 01:10 | Report Abuse

One man's meat, another's poison

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-05-14 01:10 | Report Abuse

To each his own

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-05-14 01:11 | Report Abuse

The important thing is to always have choice & freedom in your life

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-14 07:58 | Report Abuse

it's results that is important. I will trade my votes for results..... wouldn't you?

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-14 08:01 | Report Abuse

form over substance or substance over form. Chinese are practical people. They always prefer substance over form.

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-14 08:02 | Report Abuse

some people are very shallow. they always prefer form over substance.

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-14 08:03 | Report Abuse

we call them impractical people, idealists, ideologues

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-14 08:04 | Report Abuse

Deng says white mice black mice

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-14 08:05 | Report Abuse

as long as catch the mice... meaning country richer, people happy, poverty eradicated, people healthy and happy,

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-14 08:06 | Report Abuse

and looks towards a better future

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-14 08:07 | Report Abuse

the world is really divided into 2..... the practical people and the ideologues

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-14 08:12 | Report Abuse

I don't think any outsider any country is qualified to tell China what is best for them. results speaks louder than words

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-14 08:14 | Report Abuse

China has done very well last 70 years, not just 40 years.

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-14 08:16 | Report Abuse

the first 30 years are foundational years....without the strong foundations of first 30 years, the miracle of last 40 also not possible

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2021-05-14 08:20 | Report Abuse

it is in first 30 years, China health care, education, literacy, housing reach to every village, every county...moral education, unity, patriotism, socialism