Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-04-19 13:43 |

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-04-19 13:44 | Report Abuse

Correction

Number 5 should be THPLANT WITH 240,000 ACRES

Posted by s3phiroth > 2022-04-19 14:47 | Report Abuse

Cost of cpo production can no longer maintain at rm1600 per ton because of high fertilizer price and minimum wage. But then the increase of cost is still no way match the increase of cpo price. So even if production cost raises to rm2000 per ton, Palm oils company still can generate huge profit that no one ever seen before.

It is a no brainer to buy palm oil stock that has plenty of lands to hedge against inflation, somemore these lands able to generate huge cash flow.

Posted by ahbah > 2022-04-19 20:14 | Report Abuse

ALL plantation stocks ... a good buy

Posted by investor77 > 2022-04-19 20:47 | Report Abuse

Noticed Cepat and MHC Plantation is not mentioned. Also curious as to how Plantation Companies are taxed - Excess profit Tax when CPO price over Rm3500? Windfall Tax when annual profit above RM 100 million, and normal Tax of 24 % on Net Profit.

Posted by Pinky > 2022-04-19 20:58 | Report Abuse

Subur Tiasa is hopeless.

You hear it from Pinky before KYY.

Posted by gladiator > 2022-04-19 21:58 | Report Abuse

MHC should be NO.2

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-04-20 05:45 | Report Abuse

Based on the latest financial reports, in fact MHC and Cepat are the most undervalued at current share price.

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-04-20 05:46 | Report Abuse

Based on the latest financial reports, in fact MHC and Cepat are the most undervalued plantations stocks at current share price.

Posted by i3gambler > 2022-04-20 07:47 | Report Abuse

Should change 'M.Cap/Ha' to '(M.Cap+T.Debt-C.Asset)/Ha'.
If your dun know the management very well, dun buy those small companies that pay very little dividend.

Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-04-20 08:41 |

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Posted by skoh888 > 2022-04-20 08:59 | Report Abuse

calvin tan koresh, you are really a thick skinned arrogant c.... Who made u god to decide what is right or wrong? u think u god ah? u make money no need to brag. Other people got their point of views...not for u to judge and say who is right or wrong.

Posted by joerakmo > 2022-04-20 09:37 | Report Abuse

@Calvin
Get your facts right!

"Because Mhc plant palm oil estates are mostly located in Telok Anson

Those lands are swampy and so quite useless "

Where u think Utd Plt lands are ?They have highest CPO per hectare in whole Malaysia.

Posted by LossAversion > 2022-04-20 09:53 | Report Abuse

@Calvin, United Plantation oil palm are planted in TI. Talk what?

Posted by LossAversion > 2022-04-20 09:56 | Report Abuse

@Calvin, I visited Utd Plt estates for 16 years. So many orang putih have visited this estate!!!! Useless, say you???!!!!

Posted by Berlin > 2022-04-20 10:15 | Report Abuse

I think Calvin meant Utd Plt estates in TI are peat soil and no good for housing development ;not that they are no good for oil palm (or coconut). Utd Plt manage their estates efficiently and treat their workers very well. Their little bakery selling delicious bread and bakery products at TI estate is a must visit every time I pass by that area.

Posted by Pinky > 2022-04-20 10:28 | Report Abuse

https://unitedplantations.com/bernam-bakery/

Interesting...

Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-04-20 11:45 | Report Abuse

hahaha

I bought mhc plant at 46 sen and sold for over 100% profit to buy Tsh resources

Tsh resources will make 1,000% profit

Posted by William Wang > 2022-04-20 12:07 | Report Abuse

No doubt the CPO price now will bring windfall to all oil palm plantation owners, big or small, but the cost of production had also gone way up. Cost at RM1600 was way back at least 10 years ago, even in those days it can be up to Rm2300 for the less efficient producers. Do not go into just any oil palm company blindly.. try to understand their management properly.
Few points all of us must take note:
1. Does the company shares their bumper profit with their share holders.. do they have the nasty attitude of socialise when losing and privatise when making.. such companies are only for punters.. hit and run.
2. With such unprecedented price, a lot of big players are selling forward since the CPO was at around RM4000.. these big players seldom tell share holders how much of their stock(future) already committed at much lower price.. especially those developing ones, they care about stability and commitment for debt and full development of their land.
3. Even worse if company sold forward but a huge percentage of their FFB is not their own but small holders in their vicinity. These small holders will be given average 'spot price' on the month they deliver.. with price going up, these companies(taking outside FFB) will lose money. Generally, this is reflected in their quarterly financial statement that the revenue is huge compare to the size of plantation.

GOOD LUCK

Posted by joerakmo > 2022-04-20 12:19 | Report Abuse

@ william you hit it spot on points 2 and 3

Posted by skoh888 > 2022-04-20 12:33 | Report Abuse

@joerakmo and william wang....good points brought up. That's what a good discussion should be, balanced and fair. Unlike the brother of david koresh who goes around trying to brainwash i3 readers

Posted by stockraider > 2022-04-20 12:42 | Report Abuse

Lu tau boh ??

Cost of production now is Rm 2200 to Rm 2400.....but every type of other planted competing commodities are already up mah!

Thus the Rm 4000 should be sustainable even if cpo price correct loh!

Yes owner sell fwd....bcos they do not believe cpo can go above Rm 4,000 bcos previously this is the record price loh!

Even if owner sell fwd at Rm 4,000 and now it is at above rm 6,000.....the owner still make more money bcos the previous avg was rm 3200 which already consider lucrative mah!
Now at above rm 6,000 the plantation still make money....base on selling price of Rm 4000 loh!

Companies take outside FFB still make money....bcos normally the conversion Gross margin from FFB to CPO.....is around 15% to 20% mah!

The crusher mills should make monies mah! If cannot make monies why take up the FFB leh?

Posted by Johnzhang > 2022-04-20 13:44 | Report Abuse

Hi Calvintaneng , what you said about MHC’s land in Telok Anson are swampy and useless is UNTRUE!
You liquidated MHC around $1.08 many months ago was simply because
Mr Chan Kam Leong , a director who hold insignificant amount of share ,was selling down .
MHC’s about 7,600 acres 0f lands are in Durien Sebatang, chankat Jong and hutan melintang are planted and generating revenue . Some of these lands are freehold and with good development value .
The biggest assets of MHC is the investment in cepatwawasan.

Posted by Johnzhang > 2022-04-20 13:46 | Report Abuse

In term of EPS , DY and balance sheet, MHC is more superior than many .

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-04-20 14:10 | Report Abuse

Now I know why he wrote 'MHC was cheap'. That could be also meant by him that it is expensive now.

Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-04-20 17:43 |

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Posted by stockraider > 2022-04-20 19:11 | Report Abuse

Correctloh....MHC has plantation estate near TG malim & slim river.....quality land near development area....easily converted to industrial, commercial and residential area...a big potential for mixed development projects loh!

Posted by MuttsInvestor > 2022-04-20 19:59 | Report Abuse

Bought into MHC because of their "ownership" of Cepat Wawasan. Plus Cepatwawasan has significant "under Valued" land/plantations.

Posted by s3phiroth > 2022-04-20 21:19 | Report Abuse

yeah MHC owns 29% of cepat. This shares alone already worth 106mil, which is 40% of MHC's market cap.

Posted by StartOfTheBull > 2022-04-20 21:31 | Report Abuse

The company is not generous in giving out dividend like Innoprise and Kmloong. That maybe the reason it is lagging behind the two. Note that Kmloong latest QR, its EPS is 3.27c only even CPO average price was above RM5,000 in that quarter.

Posted by Raymond Tiruchelvam > 2022-04-21 04:08 | Report Abuse

amazingly ommited out the single most important palm oil counter in the calculations..... KLK, it may not just up 100% but surely its the sturdeast and strongest of all if ever there was a downturn

Posted by supersaiyan3 > 2022-04-21 06:34 | Report Abuse

Calvin, I would say most of the plantation companies do not know what they doing. They have no idea what efficiency mean.

Years ago, I looked at TSH, they say they are using new clones (A, B mixed with clones), that is going to be 50% more productive. The production figures just doesn't add up. (I have some A, B, C, D, but that's not relevant lah). I would say they are slightly better off but not up to 50%.

Its a simple multiplier effect. If you have a big tree that have more leaves and higher percentage of female branches, plus bigger bunches, then you have more yield.

Most companies just do not care, they just have too little ffb and let half of them rot on the tree. (because they do not maintain the roads and plan properly, its difficult to harvest by then).

If you are in west malaysia or sarawak, the soil is so poor and hardly any fruits to be seen.

Its annoying to see people just divide the land area.....

come one, its 2022, learn efficiency.

Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-04-21 07:18 |

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Posted by nicholas99 > 2022-04-21 09:40 | Report Abuse

omg

Posted by supersinginvestor > 2022-04-21 10:49 | Report Abuse

Only buy klk n utdplnt..
Others r for ikan bilis to goreng.

Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-04-21 15:21 | Report Abuse

Klk or Uplant can only buy in bad times for dividend and not now

Why?

They say in bad times buy good stocks and avoid bad stocks

But in boom times like now you don't buy good stocks but better buy bad stocks

Why like that?

answer:

if bad times 2nd and 3rd liners will drop a lot

in bad times good stocks still pay dividends cannot drop much so price not cheap

In bad times 3rd liners can collapse by 60% to 80%

So in good times good blue chip still holding firm also CANNOT MAKE MUCH MONEY

WHEREAS IN GOOD TIMES THOSE BOMBED OUT 3RD LINERS VERY CHEAP CAN GO UP 300% TO 500%

IT TAKES LONG EXPERIENCE AND REAL KNOWLEDGE TO KNOW THIS TRUTH

THAT IS WHY WE DON'T ADVOCATE BUYING KLK AND UPLANT NOW

THEN?

THEN GO FOR THESE

JTIASA
BPLANT
THPLANT
TSH RESOURCES

ABOVE 4 WILL OUTPERFORM ALL OTHERS

Posted by investor77 > 2022-04-21 17:15 | Report Abuse

Thanks for your comments Calvin. So far only bought 3 of the above in small amount, except THPlant. From observation, TaAnn is very good, as it is constantly on the move up and second is HSPlantation which went up after buying within a short time. Seems IOI Corp is responsive to CPO price movement but its price is lagging compared to others. SHChan is also a laggard.

Posted by s3phiroth > 2022-04-21 18:05 | Report Abuse

Personally i prefer those plantation stocks with small cap but still making money at least 4 consecutive quarters.

Chances that they double or triple in market cap is much higher but with relatively small risk.

Posted by calvintaneng > 2022-04-21 19:06 |

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Posted by mahmudkashimj > 2022-04-21 21:10 | Report Abuse

UNITED PLANTATION GO FOR RM20.00