Posted by yuanlong57 > 2017-07-06 01:21 | Report Abuse

[ forgot090 LPTan68 yuanlong PE是不是越高越好？
05/07/2017 15:20
brother 您真的是很幽默，佩服话中有话 ]
Yuanlong, is it good or not when the PE becomes higher and higher?
Brother, you are really humorous. There is more than meets the ears, admirable.

Posted by yuanlong57 > 2017-07-06 01:43 | Report Abuse

LPTan68 alcom 有赚钱他给的股息是很可观，没赚钱就不用说咯。。
05/07/2017 15:10
It's normal for Alcom to give dividend when it earns profits. If it's not earning profit, there is no need to say further.

LPTan68 我想问问pe 24是现在对吗？那么2013alcom 的pe 又是多少？要是您不知道我就跟您说是2013 pe 是51.54...知道吗？做
05/07/2017 15:14
I would like to ask, is PE 24 valid now? What is Alcom's PE in 2013? If you don't know, let me tell you that 2013 PE is 51.54.

LPTan68 基本面固然要看，不过不是一定准，不过谢谢您提醒pe 24...可能pe 要越高就越好。哈哈哈哈哈
05/07/2017 15:18
Of course we have to look at the basic fundamentals, but it is not completely accurate. Thank you for reminding about PE24 ... may be the higher the PE ratio the better. Ha, ha, ha.

Posted by Md Abd Fahmi > 2017-07-06 01:44 | Report Abuse

im strong believe .green for tomorrow... yeahhh

Posted by yuanlong57 > 2017-07-06 01:59 | Report Abuse

[ LPTan68 yuanlong PE是不是越高越好？]
Yuanlong, is PE the higher the better?

PE - The Basics
How is price earnings ratio used?
Simply put, the p/e ratio is the price an investor is paying for $1 of a company's earnings or profit. In other words, if a company is reporting basic or diluted earnings per share of $2 and the stock is selling for $20 per share, the p/e ratio is 10 ($20 per share divided by $2 earnings per share = 10 p/e).

What does a high P E ratio mean?
Generally a high P/E ratio means that investors are anticipating higher growth in the future. The average market P/E ratio is 20-25 times earnings. The P/E ratio can use estimated earnings to get the forward looking P/E ratio.

It is common practice for investors to use the price-to-earnings ratio (P/E ratio or price multiple) to determine if a company's stock price is over or undervalued. Companies with a high P/E ratio are typically growth stocks.

Posted by Jefflim1234 > 2017-07-06 03:19 | Report Abuse

yuanlong57: Tq for translating the comments by LPTan68. I could only get a good grasp of only a portion of his comments by using google translate. Now that u hv done the full translation let me add my thoughts by stating the following:
1) First of all, it's very easy to give all kinds of explanations after the facts. So LPTan68 u were quite correct to say that if RJ87 had said that the market is going to undergo a correction soon when it was at 2.20 u would hv given him the full respect that he deserves. So would I. I would hv saluted him for his gutsy call if it was b4 it happened. But then again how could he bcos llke carilembu says : he will quietly sell off n after the correction has already set in then tells us why u guys nvr seĺl off n take profit first n buy back later? How I wish investing were that easy!!
So how would he dare to say in the open b4 it happens!!! The least he could have done is to warn the people to tread carefully!!!! When I was using the phrase ALCOM GOLDEN PALACE I got blamed by both him and carilembu for enticing people to buy. DID ANY OF U GUYS see any of my posts inciting people to buy or sell? I always try to put a disclaimer by saying:
Comments are not meant as a recommendation to buy or sell. Use infos only as u see fit. If people doesn't understand the meaning of the sentence that is not my fault is it???
And if I do think that there's is danger ahead I always warn people to tread carefully even b4 trading starts. Only self centred people with a twisted mind would have thoughts that people r always trying to harm others. If any people who has suffered any losses it is due to one's own actions n not through the action of others. What that means is that either one is too greedy trying to make a fast buck n so got flushed out during the T+2,3 n 4 trading period or NOT HAVING DONE DUE DILIGENCE BY ONESELF n trying to feed off others.
2. Since LPTan68 was asking RJ87 whether there r any other stocks worth investing let us give him a chance to stick his neck out n tell us. Since he says that he is only able to see only 1 to 2 quarters ahead that would suit all of us v fine indeed as our holding period would b v short!! What say you guys yuanlong57, LPTan68, kennyku, The_Reds and the rest of u ALCOMATES??? Wondn't RJ87 b WUNDERFULL to have around us????
3) Mentioning abt stocks that MAY have a potential to go. UP OR DOWN u guys interpret it yourself. I bought in ANCOM a few days ago n still topping up as I go along. The price range is between (1.00 to 1.04). ??? I hv made a comment here in passing but I hv made more comments in that particular forum. Plod along over there if u want to. THERE U GO. NO ULTERIOR MOTIVES!
Another counter that I see good potential in is TECFAST. The prices that I m in is between the range ( 0.72 to 0.765 sen.). There u go. No hiding n ni ulterior motives. U guys can check it out yourselves.
I m not one to give a time table on how long these stocks r to b held. Like I said b4. I don' t fall in love with stocks. I let the market decide for me when I should get out!!
Ok. Disclaimer again. Comments r not meant as a recommendation to buy or sell. Use infos only as u see fit. If u do not understand the meaning of the last 2 sentences pls have someone interprete for u especially carilembu if u r reading this!!!!
Ok. So much for my 2 sen worth. Gud luck.

Posted by yuanlong57 > 2017-07-06 03:43 | Report Abuse

A lot of things had happened yesterday. Though I remained silent, I was closely following the flow of events through the day.
I have always believed that TIME is eternally the best judge of things. Though people would say lots of positive things during good times, when things reverse, many peculiar views will come forth with all kinds of self-righteous and self-conceited arguments. The passage of time will never lie because it will clearly reveal the true nature of humans.

Posted by yuanlong57 > 2017-07-06 03:52 | Report Abuse

Jefflim1234, Yes. I did specifically notice the Disclaimer of Liabilities you consistently append to your comments every time you gave your views. At first, I was wondering why you did that. I guessed that you may be a professional in some sort of industry which necessitates that habitual SOP. Yesterday's happenings had proven its validity when the Disclaimer had pertinently vindicated your stance.

Posted by Hohup > 2017-07-06 06:33 | Report Abuse

If break 1.73 today.... :( :( :(

Posted by Jefflim1234 > 2017-07-06 08:52 | Report Abuse

Gud morning to yuanlong57, LPTan68, kennyku, The_Reds and all Alcomates. Have a happy time at the market 2day. Gud luck to all.

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 09:00 | Report Abuse

早安大家

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 09:03 | Report Abuse

谢谢yuanlong 您的解释。。eps pe roe dy 那些基本面我都很了解，我只是看不惯有些人才。。（pe 是不是比益本）

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 09:04 | Report Abuse

pe 是不是多少年回本？

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 09:05 | Report Abuse

今天好像有什么动静。。。

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 09:06 | Report Abuse

早安jefflim 不管他们了，一样米养白种人。。

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 09:11 | Report Abuse

jefflim 重要这个论坛是alcom 。。。时间可以见证的。。。

Posted by kennyku > 2017-07-06 09:13 | Report Abuse

Good morning jefflim, yuanlong lptan and the red!..... market share is like that , you want invest then u need to ready to be loss, if all are winner that mean there is no loser, everyone already become robert kwok...

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 09:16 | Report Abuse

早安kennyku。。

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 09:19 | Report Abuse

感觉今天会有动静。。

Posted by sigmax > 2017-07-06 09:27 | Report Abuse

Still strong believe in alcom :)) , for those naysayer can skip this counter ... hater gonna hate :p

Posted by Jefflim1234 > 2017-07-06 09:29 | Report Abuse

yuanlong57: Tq for verifying my disclaimers in my postings. Ya. I knew that when times r a bit rocky people's true characters would show. This is NOT EVEN a terrible correction and people r already pointing fingers
How sad! Sometimes I do wonder to myself "is it worth the while to comment" But I always believe that by sharing v will b much stronger since none of us can do all the research by ourselves. By sharing our opinions v have more options on which course to take. Again tq.

Posted by kennyku > 2017-07-06 09:29 | Report Abuse

Yes... lptan..希望今天能突破回1.800

Posted by kennyku > 2017-07-06 09:42 | Report Abuse

Btw jefflim.... are u still ready to alcom golden palace?

Posted by kennyku > 2017-07-06 09:42 | Report Abuse

Haha

Posted by Jefflim1234 > 2017-07-06 09:53 | Report Abuse

kennyku: Yes I still m Just waiting for timing to top up more. When Dun know yet. Just have to observe n b ready!!

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 10:08 | Report Abuse

没看头。。。哈哈哈

Posted by The_Reds > 2017-07-06 10:34 | Report Abuse

No more free fall today, flushing period seems over..i think it will move sideways n consolidate for these 2 trading days

Posted by stockraider > 2017-07-06 11:41 | Report Abuse

Alcom....beat a quick retreat.. now game over ?
Short term yes loh....for those who still want to have exposure...u need to monitor.. when to make a comeback loh...!!

Alcom...is a solid company ...with growth prospect but the stock had power on too far loh...!!
Earnings & prospect need to catch up...b4 it can power the next upthrust mah....!

So remember & watch ...the next catalyst & entry point loh!

Posted by yuanlong57 > 2017-07-06 12:01 | Report Abuse

[ LPTan68 谢谢yuanlong 您的解释。。eps pe roe dy 那些基本面我都很了解，我只是看不惯有些人才。。（pe 是不是比益本)]
06/07/2017 09:03
Thank you for your explanation. I fully understand all those fundamentals like EPS, PE, ROE, DY. I just cannot stand those 'talented' people ... (whether or not PE is for comparing capital benefit)

[ LPTan68 pe 是不是多少年回本？]
06/07/2017 09:04
Is PE for understanding how many years it takes to get back our base capital?

[ LPTan68 今天好像有什么动静。。。]
06/07/2017 09:05
Looks like there will be some movement today.

[ LPTan68 早安jefflim 不管他们了，一样米养白种人。。]
Good morning, Jefflim1234. Don't bother about them. One type of rice grains can nurture hundreds of differing kinds of people. (Idiom)
06/07/2017 09:06

[LPTan68 jefflim 重要这个论坛是alcom 。。。时间可以见证的。。。]
The important thing is, this is Alcom forum ... Time will be our witness.
06/07/2017 09:11

Posted by forgot090 > 2017-07-06 12:15 | Report Abuse

today add some more rice again

Posted by Jefflim1234 > 2017-07-06 12:23 | Report Abuse

yuanlong57 n LPTan68. Tq for your comments. YES. I was very sure you know all meanings to all those terms n what significance they hv for investment purposes. I knew you were being sarcastic to u know who I m referring to.

Posted by Jefflim1234 > 2017-07-06 12:27 | Report Abuse

Anyway b4 market closes for the morning session just like to say I hv top up another 7k at 1.71 to my portfolio. Dun know whether this is where the slide stops or even it doesn't stop here it soon will b. If I m not mistaken.

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 12:50 | Report Abuse

要是投资的人不怕啦，之前在alcom 玩投机的人我看这轮就把他给输完，连本钱都要输。。。

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 13:05 | Report Abuse

要是alcom ROE 才6曾长多就好，可以早点分股等等。。在等

Posted by Jefflim1234 > 2017-07-06 13:29 | Report Abuse

Since v r all talking about our great fundamentalist with all those mambo jambo jargon let me relate my experience to u guys on why I do not place it at the top of my list when I stick my head into a stock! I used to b so gung ho about PE, NTA, etc etc when I was in the stock market during my younger days! Until I invesyed into a stock which I would not name. The stock has great potential so I thought. Plenty of landbanks, company doing well etc...etc. The only problem was the management was a lousy one.........v stingy in giving dividends, bonus etc... The MD was a very traditional man from the old school of thought. Very stingy with giving divs at abt 1to 2 % a year. I I was holding the stocks for a few years hoping the company would reward their loyal shareholders when their landbanks r revalued etc etc. But no. I guess the major shareholders feels the company BELONGS to him and him alone. Other stocks were moving but this one stood still EVEN THOUGH FUNDAMENTALS were absolutely fantastic. But what to do? Just keep holding n hope for the best...... To cut a long story short IT IS NOT THE FUNDAMENTALS that counts. It is the way that the managements that is running the company that matters the most! The company may b solid but the management towards shareholders is V BAD. So I eventually got tid of the stocks. A few years later the son took over the company after the old man died. Properties were revalued n the price of the share shot through the roof. The MORAL of this story is
1) Don't EVER INVEST IN a company based solely on Fundamentals.
2) Use TA as a tool first to guide you on the intent to invest. Charts do not lie. Prices and vol traded r all recorded. The data do not lie.
3) Do your research on the management especially the MD perrception on where n what the direction he intends to take the co. How he intends to reward shareholders etc ..etc. Acct can b v creative as some of u guys recently found out. I wouldn't want the mention the counter.
4) After all these due diligence ONLY then look at the fundamentals n determine for yourself whether the nos are believable.
5) Then n only then stick your head into the ring. In the event that after all due diligence the share price were to drop due to whatever circumstances u should b prepared to TRUST YOURSELF that it is a good investment. Warren Buffet quotes: If a 50% drop in share price is going to cause you acute distress after ALL DUE DILIGENCE then you should not be in the stock market. Anyway my 2 sen worth. FOOD FOR THOUGHT HUH? Of course the hardest part of all investing is WHEN to enter. I leave that to u all intelligent investors out there to decide.

Posted by Jefflim1234 > 2017-07-06 14:30 | Report Abuse

forgot090: what type of rice r u having, fragrant or not??????;ha ha ha

Posted by forgot090 > 2017-07-06 14:39 | Report Abuse

tambah nasi means bought

Posted by forgot090 > 2017-07-06 14:39 | Report Abuse

sure fragrant..he he

Posted by forgot090 > 2017-07-06 14:40 | Report Abuse

just wait and see

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 14:47 | Report Abuse

今天量少，是最好。。。要是在量多1.65跑人

Posted by Jefflim1234 > 2017-07-06 14:53 | Report Abuse

forgot090: people throw oranges u r picking uh? Sweet or not? Dob' t waste food la!!!

Posted by Jefflim1234 > 2017-07-06 14:53 | Report Abuse

Not Dob't but Don't

Posted by forgot090 > 2017-07-06 14:54 | Report Abuse

LPTan68 今天量少，是最好。。。要是在量多1.65跑人
06/07/2017 14:47

really ??

Posted by forgot090 > 2017-07-06 14:54 | Report Abuse

要是在量多1.65跑人
LPTan68
真的要跑人？？

Posted by forgot090 > 2017-07-06 14:56 | Report Abuse

Jefflim1234 forgot090: people throw oranges u r picking uh? Sweet or not? Dob' t waste food la!!!
06/07/2017 14:53
。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
sure100% sweet

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 14:58 | Report Abuse

我是说量越来越多，股价在掉1.65我才砍。。。量要是越来越少等有上回我会在买进。。

Posted by forgot090 > 2017-07-06 15:00 | Report Abuse

LPTan68 我是说量越来越多，股价在掉1.65我才砍。。。量要是越来越少等有上回我会在买进。。
06/07/2017 14:58
........................

这样是我买错了？？

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 15:03 | Report Abuse

钱是您的，您开心就好，不用管人家说什么，冷眼前辈有说过当一把刀掉下的时候，不要紧张去捉刀这样很容易割伤。。

Posted by Jefflim1234 > 2017-07-06 15:03 | Report Abuse

forgot090: Yes lor. Happy they r throwing to me lor! V V SWEET LO!

Posted by LPTan68 > 2017-07-06 15:04 | Report Abuse

为什么不等刀掉在地上才去拿 。。

Posted by yuanlong57 > 2017-07-06 15:07 | Report Abuse

To this day, 6 July 2017, I can confidently say with utmost certainty that Alcom forum is the best one I've ever participated in since I humbly began my investing journey in 2013. I'm still on a learning curve. I've learnt a lot and benefitted considerably from Alcom forum. One special trait about Alcom is that we welcome all people, old and new to give their views and comments. We even try our best to welcome newcomers like xuewenapeng who may ask the simplest qestions in the most decent way. For Md Abd Fahmi we even went to the extent of translating comments into Bahasa Malaysia to help him. For LPTan68, we also try to "enjoy" his comments in Chinese through innovative means like using Google Translate and apps. Who says we are not as united as before? Do we have to make a declaration to tell the world to prove our unity? Doing such a thing is tantamount to insulting our intelligence. Unity among 兄弟 (brothers) resides in our hearts. We trust and have confidence among ourselves but this doesn't mean we blindly follow other people's views. We do our own due diligence based on information shared but we decide on our willing judgment. We don't blame anybody or others if things turn out against our expectations. We understand the technical lingo of investing and financials but we don't bend its interpretations to suit our conceited, self-righteous perceptions. Instead we use the technical indications to guide us in our investing decisions. We are true to ourselves and to others with no preconceived motives.

I like this part of comment by Jefflim1234.
[ Sometimes I do wonder to myself "is it worth the while to comment" But I always believe that by sharing v will b much stronger since none of us can do all the research by ourselves. By sharing our opinions v have more options on which course to take. ]

The excerpt is self-explanatory, no need for further clarification. Science has ample evidence to show that a plant exposed to the sunshine of the outside world is healthier and grows better than a plant kept alone by the window.