Posted by heng5275 > 2017-11-30 15:35 | Report Abuse

Emmmmm,15Dec is near but the annoucement still not yet out..i better dont buy if not later kena gao gao...

Posted by Albukhary > 2017-11-30 15:36 | Report Abuse

Wah Q4 eps only 0.8sen, crazy ar... I expect at least 3 sen leh.
Don't scare me kaw kaw..

Posted by astalavista > 2017-11-30 16:43 | Report Abuse

0.20 is coming by next week..waiting for you :)

Posted by dompeilee > 2017-11-30 16:53 | Report Abuse

Unloaded another 15,000 @ 23c for an early X-mas present, and just to be contrary to the talk big pocket empty bennylim8 :D

Balance 63,000 :)

Posted by heng5275 > 2017-11-30 17:25 | Report Abuse

I think everyone here is scared...because keep down and down..so even get profit also selling..because the announcement seems delay...lol

Posted by harlem > 2017-11-30 17:41 | Report Abuse

Coal tar today up AGAIN ......... !! up by 120 to 3893.25. Total up by 934 since 9/10 !
http://www.sci99.com/monitor-386-0.html

Posted by Keith Han > 2017-11-30 18:01 | Report Abuse

Q4 earning won't more than Q3 la.. got chance same as Q2 if coke spot price back to 2000..

Estimate around 1.0-1.5 ..

Posted by Uncle_Lim > 2017-11-30 18:20 | Report Abuse

coal up or down, this counter still going to delist. just cash out your money before it becomes like IQGROUP, no buyer

Posted by Betta68 > 2017-11-30 21:28 | Report Abuse

Uncle Lim, what do you expect from this blog when you are promoting Huaan to be delisted, what if he did not delisted? Stop spaculating, show us some evidence, or else do not post fake news. I can only think about o e reason why you are promoting, you want the share to go down, well its fine form me as i am buying..but do not post fake news.

Posted by Keith Han > 2017-11-30 21:31 | Report Abuse

http://finance.sina.com.cn/money/future/fmnews/2017-11-30/doc-ifypikws8711549.shtml

coke price seem will keep growing for the whole Dec. So now the only risk is " Paragraph/Rule 8.03a "

1) Q: you guys need to understand why BURSA put HUAAN under Paragraph 8.03A of Main Market Listing Requirement?
A: This is because on Year 2015-2016, HUAAN has lease it entire factory to 3rd party for 1 years, and this cause HUAAN has no operation revenue for the whole year. According to Paragraph 8.03A, a company must maintain a level of operation in order to continue to listed in Main Market. For HUAAN, since it has no operation revenue at all at the period, that why it fall under the Paragraph 8.03A.

2) Q: Will HUAAN be delisted soon due to non-complied with Para 8.03A?
A: LOW CHANCE ... As HUAAN has take back the factory and re-start its own operation since Feb 2017. What HUAAN need to do just submit their regulation plan to Bursa as required by the rules.
Anyway, HUAAN already submited on 8 November.

3) Q: HUAAN's operator want get benefit from the market by delist their company ?
A: I don't think delist their company can bring any benefit to the operator.. No point to submit their document on 8 Nov then.

Personal think very low chance to delist .. but anything can happen in share market .. just analyse yourself.. : )

Posted by Keith Han > 2017-11-30 21:46 | Report Abuse

http://xiaohatu.com/screen/598c11e0673c75002f420c0f/599abd8203c9a7002bbcaab7

Look for 山东焦企盈利, as long their profit maintain 140/tonne until end of dec.. eps 1.0- 1.5 no problem.. but seem it will all the way up ... : )

Posted by Keith Han > 2017-11-30 21:59 | Report Abuse

coke price up because 钢厂限产力度并不及预期 ( product earning now at peak , If i'm businessman , sure want to produce more ) ; Coke earning drop to negative mid of November .. sell one tone lost 200RMB , so operator produce less .. Supply < Demand = price +++

根据调研情况来看，钢厂对于焦炭仍有稳定需求，特别是华东及南方地区钢厂近期依然存在补库计划，预计整个补库时间将持续至12月中下旬。即在此之前，钢厂对于焦炭的需求力度不会出现较为明显的回落

Posted by leechen88 > 2017-11-30 22:03 | Report Abuse

Coke price now rmb 2161 hope tomorrow morning 22xx

Posted by harlem > 2017-11-30 23:26 | Report Abuse

Keith, the 小哈图 quite a nifty tool, thanks.
http://xiaohatu.com/screen/598c11e0673c75002f420c0f/599abd8203c9a7002bbcaab7

Posted by Keith Han > 2017-11-30 23:50 | Report Abuse

You're welcome

Posted by harlem > 2017-11-30 23:58 | Report Abuse

Wow .... Good News again !!

Coal tar price is expected to go up further in December !
http://cpb.hexun.com/news/7436

(1) "自9月国内煤焦油市场开启上行态势以来，据中宇资讯监测，本月市场已经是连续第三个月上调，并且较月初上涨750元/吨，涨幅达到23.08%，价格屡创新高，月底成功站上4000元/吨，并且市场依旧没有结束的意思，对于12月的市场场内期待值依旧较高."

Since the domestic coal tar market opened its upward trend in September, according to chem365.net monitoring, this month has been the third consecutive month of upward adjustment in the market, up RMB 750 / tonne from the beginning of the month, or up to 23.08%, with prices reaching record highs and end of month successful stand on the 4,000 yuan / ton, and the market is still not over, market for the December expected value is still high.

(2) "即将进入12月，中宇资讯认为，由于场内货源紧缺局面仍难缓解，并且下游厂家拿货积极性高涨，所以12月煤焦油价格没有最高，只有更高！"

Coming into December, chem365.net believes that because of the shortage of supply still difficult to ease, and downstream manufacturers goods procuring enthusiasm higher, so in December no highest, only higher for coal tar prices !

Posted by mmk79 > 2017-12-01 09:48 | Report Abuse

Coal price keep on going up. Good Good Good. Another powerful Quarter anticipated. Collect collect collect.

Posted by Christopher Toh > 2017-12-01 11:06 | Report Abuse

Yesterday I bought 100,000 units @ 0.225, hopefully can gain a little profit before CNY.

Posted by Betta68 > 2017-12-01 11:20 | Report Abuse

Thank you Keith Han and Harlem for sharing. I am sure Huaan will overcome paragraph A to Z..and look like Q4 is very promissing..

Posted by Betta68 > 2017-12-01 11:21 | Report Abuse

Yesterday i bought 500k more at 0.23.

Posted by bennylim8 > 2017-12-01 11:51 | Report Abuse

dompilee, your comments below are so childish.

b4 this, hide behind a big showy name Buffett888 or some stupid nonsense like that...No integrity la you, bennylim8! kekeke

I DARE you to post your 'proof' like what I've shown in the links above...let everyone here b the witness...or else banish yourself 4ever, no integrity clown lol

OMG ! A real shame to have such a forumer in i3. I have shown the proof. Now it is time for you to banish yourself.

Posted by bennylim8 > 2017-12-01 11:56 | Report Abuse

Guys, no more wasting time on such forumer who like to attack people personally. We focus on real issues and make more money.

Posted by Betta68 > 2017-12-01 12:32 | Report Abuse

Dompeilee, thank you for your update on coal price. Bennylim8, i agree with you to focus on making money...

Posted by Keith Han > 2017-12-01 15:10 | Report Abuse

Earlier not looking good on Q4 and Q1 coz of winter and coke profit in negative .. that why stop reload share when it drop through 0.25 last week.. now seem it will better than expectation.. next week will reload some before announcement out.. : )

Future view , Q1 is very challenging period .. but Q2 should be very profitable to HUAAN . Policy period end on March .. supply of metal will increase ...

Anyway .. coke price now 2194. : )

Posted by Christopher Toh > 2017-12-01 20:04 | Report Abuse

Hope Monday can up to 0.26

Posted by leechen88 > 2017-12-01 22:16 | Report Abuse

2008 now coke price...... if Monday really can see 0.225 I eat all......hahahahahaha if not I potong

Posted by leechen88 > 2017-12-01 22:17 | Report Abuse

Coke price is 2208 now .....mistype

Posted by Keith Han > 2017-12-01 23:38 | Report Abuse

Seem will move to 2300 soon

Posted by Keith Han > 2017-12-01 23:41 | Report Abuse

Hope spot price able to catch up.

Posted by harlem > 2017-12-01 23:48 | Report Abuse

Linyi spot should move to 1900 soon.

Posted by StockAlliace > 2017-12-02 09:15 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by bobthevalueman > 2017-12-02 10:10 | Report Abuse

All i see here is coal prices. What I don't see here is people talking about how 'successful' china listed companies have been in malaysia..lol

Posted by bobthevalueman > 2017-12-02 10:11 | Report Abuse

Plenty in this forum must have lost 25-30% over the last 2 months.

Posted by Betta68 > 2017-12-02 12:54 | Report Abuse

How more people loose in this counter how faster the share will rise..as long as the fundamental remain solide.

Posted by harlem > 2017-12-02 14:19 | Report Abuse

By-product coal tar ALONE could bring extra profit of 5 million ringgit in Q4 !!

Pls see the first chart in http://cpb.hexun.com/news/7436

Q3 coal tar average price = (2775 + 2875 + 2931) / 3 = 2860
Q4 coal tar average price = (3085 + 3483 + 4300) / 3 = 3622
(The Dec price of 4300 is based on assumption that coal tar price, which now stand at 4000, continue to go up as expected)
Hence coal tar Q4 average price is higher than Q3 by 762 (i.e. 3622 - 2860)

Coal tar production is about 5% of coke production (http://www.sinohuaan.com/productions.html)
Q3 coke production was 210,000 ton, hence coal tar production = 210,000 * 0.05 = 10,500

Based on exchange rate of 0.62, coal tar extra profit in Q4 = 10,500 * 762 * 0.62 = 4.96 million ringgit or 0.44 sen per share (i.e. 4.96 mil / 1,123 mil NOSH) !!

Posted by Keith Han > 2017-12-02 17:27 | Report Abuse

Harlem, coke price and coal tar price up coz of coke manufacturer decrease their production, so they may product less but get higher profit.. for tar and coke production should get 15 -20% lesser.
More accurate.

Posted by leechen88 > 2017-12-02 20:33 | Report Abuse

But when look at 2014/2015 dec quarter results , actually its revenue is higher than September one. Please do home work n state with proves

Posted by astalavista > 2017-12-02 21:01 | Report Abuse

Guys...when Huaan youched 1.70 previous years...how much was the coke and cole price that time ? Simply to know...

Posted by harlem > 2017-12-02 22:26 | Report Abuse

Keith, thanks for your feedback. I have totally opposite view. Based on a sci report and the increased inventories by 78% in Q3 report, I instead opined that Q4 production vol increased by 78% (pls see my comment on 14/11) ! If that is the case, then coal tar extra profit in Q4 will be more than 5 million ringgit ! Let Q4 tell who is right. No matter ehat it is, it will still be a good Q4.

Posted by Keith Han > 2017-12-02 23:44 | Report Abuse

Haha.. I hope so actually.. just different view.. anyway, we aiming to the same direction.

Posted by Betta68 > 2017-12-03 12:10 | Report Abuse

Anyone can tell me how many oven Huaan have and how many are active at this time?

Posted by Suare Pro Trader > 2017-12-03 19:15 | Report Abuse

@bennylim8 jump up or down?

Posted by Keith Han > 2017-12-03 22:06 | Report Abuse

Huaan got 5 oven, now only 3 oven in production.. can produce 900,000 ton coke yearly.

Posted by Keith Han > 2017-12-03 22:08 | Report Abuse

http://ir.listedcompany.com/tracker.pl?type=6&id=603677

Posted by astalavista > 2017-12-04 09:43 | Report Abuse

Waiting for you still at 0.215 and 0.20...

Posted by Betta68 > 2017-12-04 10:04 | Report Abuse

Thanks Keith Han. If he run the two additional oven, can i assume that total production can go to 1.5 million ton?

Posted by anson8222 > 2017-12-04 15:26 | Report Abuse

Why? Why? Today BURSA crash again? T_T

Posted by WDYE > 2017-12-04 16:13 | Report Abuse

Today 0.225, tomorrow 0.215, Let those still have confident to Q get the cheaper, pls.....

Posted by ilovehits > 2017-12-04 16:17 | Report Abuse

Look into their previously 4th quarter results, then you should know why. Anyway, I hope there is no any impairment loss.

http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Infomation.aspx?securityCode=2739

Posted by bennylim8 > 2017-12-04 16:37 | Report Abuse

dompilee, I am still holding lah. I thought you said banish yourself after show proof ?