Posted by Alex Tan > 2016-08-04 15:04 | Report Abuse

http://www.valueinvestingstock.com/single-post/2016/04/13/A-Market-Leader-in-Aluminium-and-Tin-Can-Packaging-1

Posted by sheldon > 2016-08-05 19:40 | Report Abuse

picked up some KJ.

Based on the data I gathered over the past few years, KJ had never registered any quarterly loss. It's dividends had always been far less than its EPS. This stingy but capable management can only mean that the company is severely undervalued,

Posted by firehawk > 2016-08-09 20:02 | Report Abuse

Cheaping .....

Posted by sheldon > 2016-08-12 05:21 | Report Abuse

The share price is low because EPF is dumping it every opportunity it gets. Maybe it's fed up with the low dividends & poor capital gains.

Posted by sheldon > 2016-08-12 15:10 | Report Abuse

Sigh! - I bought thinking it had hit rock-bottom

Posted by firehawk > 2016-08-12 15:42 | Report Abuse

so yam gong .... :-(

Posted by firehawk > 2016-08-12 15:58 | Report Abuse

2 yrs ago, when offer 3.30, all unsatisfied and make noise .... now, 2.94, what a joke!

Posted by firehawk > 2016-08-12 16:52 | Report Abuse

through like no tmr , 2.85 woh!

Posted by ctooi51 > 2016-08-12 17:12 | Report Abuse

The new management fron Canone is bloody hopeless coming in to just steal the know how. The see family are better.

Posted by yipgusing > 2016-08-13 00:54 | Report Abuse

wtf this epf is doing ... keep disposing !!
below 2.9 ! ...

Posted by bowranger > 2016-08-13 01:18 | Report Abuse

p

Posted by Angielim9955 > 2016-08-13 01:57 | Report Abuse

firehawk can share to me y this counter keep falling
is got any issue or not ?
exmaple is this kianjoo want right issue or what
can tell me ah
I hold a lot
please I very thank s
if no issue then I will average down next week
but must find out why drop first
scare got bad new which I not aware
appreciate someone can advise please

Posted by firehawk > 2016-08-13 11:59 | Report Abuse

Ag9955, my view is:
no issue, this is "normal" price fluctuation. i remember 5/6 yrs back, i bot KJ @1.2X, the price rised very much after 3.30 offer announced and sustained for yrs. This yr the offer lapsed ....

A growing co. but div. shrink in these 2 yrs, anticipate much better coming Q result compare to previous Q and comparable to same Q last year.

Generally is a A grade co, never report loss, not even a single Q. but price is an art, P/E can be
as high as 16 or as low as 8!

Posted by Angielim9955 > 2016-08-14 00:08 | Report Abuse

Thanks firehawk. Thanks for sharing ya

Posted by sheldon > 2016-08-14 23:41 | Report Abuse

KJ value down simply because of demand and supply. With EPF reducing its stake at every opportunity over time, the price would certainly decline. However this market value does not reflect its true much higher value as reflected by its ability to consistently generate positive earnings.

This makes KJ nice & ripe target for a takeover!

Posted by firehawk > 2016-08-16 22:33 | Report Abuse

Be ware! Boxpak earning NG albeit higher turnover ... this is a bad sign for KJ!

Posted by princehero > 2016-08-17 21:14 | Report Abuse

KJ hold how much % of boxpak?

Posted by Coldman > 2016-08-18 19:08 | Report Abuse

KJ buy Alcom with cheap price, for long term it is good enough

Posted by sheldon > 2016-08-19 09:49 | Report Abuse

EPF is relentless in getting rid of KJ - an unwanted child

Posted by ctooi51 > 2016-08-20 10:11 | Report Abuse

Mother Fucker Yeoh JH.. Only 2 cents dividend declared for the whole year. To coldman Kian Joo did not propose to by ALCOM but the MD of Kian Joo Yeoh Jin Hoe is trying to takeover Alcom using his own private owned company and not thru Kian Joo.

Posted by sheldon > 2016-08-20 23:07 | Report Abuse

I have even more derogatory labels for this evil MD.

Puny dividends of only 8.8m when the cash reserves is in excess of 176m and retained earnings in excess of 1.188b. The See brothers were more generous.

They're keeping the money for what??

Posted by mcheat > 2016-08-22 11:00 | Report Abuse

laugh me die....why would they want to share with people who just make derogatory remarks about them? hahaha

Posted by fengtzekai > 2016-08-22 11:24 | Report Abuse

Past 10 years results
During See Family time:
Revenue growth: 2006 (RM638M), 2007 (RM787M), 2008 (RM876M), 2009 (RM876M), 2010 (RM993M), 2011 (RM1,086M)
Pre-tax profit: 2006 (RM47M), 2007 (RM61M), 2008 (RM90M), 2009 (RM68M), 2010 (RM133M), 2011 (RM139M)

During transition from See Family to Can1 team time:
Revenue growth: 2012 (RM1,162M), 2013 (RM1,291M), 2014 (RM1,335M)
Pre-tax profit: 2012 (RM144), 2013 (RM147M), 2014 (RM144M)

During Can1 time:
Revenue growth: 2015 (RM1,602M) First time in 10 years it grew at 20% rate
Pre-tax profit: 2015 (RM163M) Highest ever in Kian Joo history

But.....if we look at dividends
During See family, between 20% - 35% rate. During Can1, ZERO to paltry 8%!

First half 2016 - revenue again grow 18%. Pre-tax profit takes a beating due to forex loss. Like that can we still expect dividend ? hmmmm

Posted by sheldon > 2016-08-23 00:48 | Report Abuse

mcheat - if the management declares dividends, besides us retail investors, they will also benefit from the cash flow

Posted by ctooi51 > 2016-08-23 12:29 | Report Abuse

Everyday just put a curse on the punny mother fucker MD until the day he dies. Just to reminds him not to cheat the minority share holders.

Posted by ctooi51 > 2016-08-23 23:01 | Report Abuse

MF to the MD of KianJoo

Posted by sheldon > 2016-08-25 12:42 | Report Abuse

Despite this MF's antics, I've proceeded to accumulate some more.

Hopefully this guy gets a massive cardiac arrest worrying about all the money in KJ he had kept instead of declaring a decent dividend!

Posted by firehawk > 2016-08-25 16:34 | Report Abuse

epf throws again?

Posted by sheldon > 2016-08-26 10:41 | Report Abuse

Article in today's Star about this MD's savviness in investment.
Apparently he was formerly a school teacher from Kedah. He should have remained a school teacher.

Posted by ctooi51 > 2016-08-30 10:46 | Report Abuse

That mother fucker....He thought he owned the whole company. Mf

Posted by sheldon > 2016-08-30 22:42 | Report Abuse

I think MD only declares dividend just enough to pay for his 4 meals a day plus petrol & parking.

Posted by ctooi51 > 2016-09-02 09:46 | Report Abuse

I just wonder how he feels when we called him MF.I mean the greatest MF of all time.

Posted by ctooi51 > 2016-09-05 10:11 | Report Abuse

Good morning MF yeoh

Posted by mcheat > 2016-09-06 10:54 | Report Abuse

Hahahaha....as if the daily greetings will create more wealth for your ownself, whilst other kept building their wealth.

Posted by ivan9511 > 2016-09-26 21:18 | Report Abuse

hi team, kianjoo new mou is a good news or bad news
seem like set up new factory ?

Posted by tralala > 2016-09-28 15:58 | Report Abuse

wow, everyday open new 52 week low

Posted by sheldon > 2016-09-28 21:44 | Report Abuse

Buy when everyone is fearful and sell when everyone is exuberant.

Posted by sheldon > 2016-09-29 06:37 | Report Abuse

I really wonder what's keeping corporate predators from bidding for this co and sending our Yeoh into retirement or at least clipping his influence?

Posted by firehawk > 2016-09-29 11:02 | Report Abuse

he wants lo let share holders die ....

Posted by Angielim9955 > 2016-09-29 19:43 | Report Abuse

firehawk hi angie here
firehawk do you think kianjoo will keep give high diviend on next year
because based on this year dividne d cannot wor ?

Posted by mcheat > 2016-09-30 12:13 | Report Abuse

Brace for another few years of low dividend.....new project means money will be spent on capex leaving little for dividend

Posted by firehawk > 2016-09-30 15:22 | Report Abuse

Ag, I can't predict the future, in short, u can refer Canone for hints.

for longer answer, u can observe what kind of personality he has, and what kind of personality See has. See is leader in some associations that doing wellfare for social, u can observe how stingy thing squeezes small shareholders in recent ALCOM acquisition for his own benefits.

He could be one of the weird things like those in OSK, PJDev, FACB Ind, Ptg tin ......

Posted by Angielim9955 > 2016-10-01 02:39 | Report Abuse

thanks

Posted by sheldon > 2016-10-03 22:58 | Report Abuse

In the long run we are all dead. Hopefully however we will outlive the MD.

Posted by tralala > 2016-10-04 15:45 | Report Abuse

Gone case.. day day open day day new low

Posted by sheldon > 2016-10-04 22:21 | Report Abuse

I think the MD has figured out a way to take the money with him to heaven.

... or maybe he's saving to buy that red Porsche when he's 90. In the mean time he's driving around in his father's proton saga 1993 model.

Posted by ivan9511 > 2016-10-06 19:31 | Report Abuse

kianjoo coming back

Posted by Angielim9955 > 2016-10-13 02:30 | Report Abuse

firehawk, do you know how to see TA about kianjoo, why my remiser claim based on TA kianjoo will fly and now is bottom but I ask her to teach me about how to see about kianjoo now is already bottom fish , , she claim not free cannot teach me now ,
someone free here can tecah me a bit

Posted by firehawk > 2016-10-13 22:59 | Report Abuse

Hi Ag, I only occasionally uses TA (for me, TA is probability, so, it is not for sure).

at this level, TA for KJ is still no change (u can draw a line connecting the recent peaks, to see whether these few days surge break the line), however, if it rises again, it may break the line .....

vols are higher, this is also a factor to affirm the breaking (if happen later) ;-)

Posted by 6T5949 > 2016-10-14 09:32 | Report Abuse

haha..TA just for information only