you memang hebat la calvin.everyday people non-stop try to discredit you and make your explanation look wrong but you never stop your explanation and one by one fall and gone. You know i think you are saying the truth. If you know what you are say is true and you never step back and that is the time people should start look. If you want to go out and abandon this forum long time a go you have done it when non-stop people attacking your explanation and promotion of this counter but you never do that.Instead you stick to your explanation and argument. Now i have a respect on you.
calvin calvin...iafx sedang sindir u...he is teasing u lah...and u act as if he is actually praising PMcorp in real????? with this: 1. "pmcorp so good directors" by iafx... and u simply wrote the same phrases? without thinking...what would people say then .after this...Lol...good directors 2. iafx gives u this...>>>>> mr.market interested in real hard $ only, not paper value 3. with this "fuuyyooi." by iafx 4. with this "value for $ power story writter" by iafx......the story is power...just the story or the stock also??? 5. ;) ....by iafx ....siap kenyit mata tu...haha 6. by iafx : "still struggle as penny? sigh." ...what's that 'sigh' for --- bro iafx...memang pandai cakap sama olang....bikin org pun susah mau malah...kena senyum sama dia ma...dalam hati cakap: ini olang sudah "kenakan" aku...tapi apa boleh buat..tak tau mau response apa...pasal memang betul ma..dia punya opposite la --- a very distinguished compliment...don't u think so...encik calvin? i think it is better if u don't downgrade PW...because ..we have tremendous data that can be audited to support our claims that PW is the GEM...while we also have tremendous data to show PMcorp is not as what as what u've claimed with your powerful writings --- i think u better support PW...then i will "have to" support PM "also"...hehe...this is not a threat or warning...this is a friendly INVITATION....hope u can sleep well..not like yesterday as u've posted today...thinking why why why why why why i miss PW? ...hehe
izokklse...puji olang pasal sudah beli itu saham tatak bagus ma...itu calvin tatak mampu jawab almost questions wa bagi ma..with DATA....jangan percaya olang pasal manis kata2 ma...percaya sama lekod ma... --- dia kata ini tak bagus itu tak bagus..tapi lekod PW bagus ma dia kata PMcorp ini bagus ..itu bagus...tapi lekod tak bagus pun --- tom kulus ada cakap : show me the money.... ponzi cakap : tengok ini money and cheques saya sudah lapat..saya sudah potostat...ini bukti ma
hellow anbz. Yes i sudah beli. not only PMCORP but all including MUI. So what ? I puji dia is nothing to do with i beli or tak.because all i buy at low. and im not buying it alone as we have our own team.So i give this calvin credit because he stay with his explanation and argument. But you also made your argument and explanation only that wrong forum. hahahah.
calvin said PW never gives dividen... --- record says: PMcorp N_E_V_E_R gives dividen since 2005 ...record cakap bukan saya ma!!!
record also says about PW consolidated bhd: 2005 bagi dividen 5 sen 2006 bagi dividen 5 sen 2011 bagi dividen 4 sen --- calvin posted that PW never gives dividen??? he just talk..cakap kosong... Calvin if u want to assign a bad indicator for PW...check first ma if the 'bad chareacteristic' that u wanted to assign..is in PMcorp or not --- paku dulang paku selphi, mengata olang ..dia yg le'bih (pronounce in france) --- time and time..i has proved alot...... tapi wa tatak geng mau sokong sama wa (except one posting by rLch) calvin banyak peminat..gua talak...gua manyak sedih lah...bye bye wa mau nangis dlm bilik...2 minit cukup lah..hehe
mrt otb..the TA can be good when calvin and his team from directors of pmcorp...pakat mau goleng...not accusation ..just a screaming probability...hali dia start posted...besok hali naik naik naik pasal 1. he has very excellent writings 2. his team have moved in --- so anything not excellent...can be seen as ...muchoz graciaz fantastico ya mamamia margerito donatellio
anbz calvin said PW never gives dividen... The actual words are these, "Just now I talked to Top OSK Boss in Iskandar. PW Consolidated has high Nta & low price. But no dividend. Since it's late he'll check on it this weekend."
The words are "But no dividend" not never gives dividen
Why must some stupid one flagged anbz? His comments arguments with facts and figures. Anything not true or fabricated? Or do these give us some senses before we decide to plunge into this stocks? I read both and make up my mind. TQ anbz too for his analysis.
Calvin, I just bought a packet of Tudor dark chocolate with hazel nuts from a Cosway outlet. To my surprise it's on offer "buy 1 free 1" for RM 10.90. They told me the offer is because the chocolates is nearing to expiry date which is still 3 months away - end January 2014.
TigerShark, thanks for your advice, In fact I do not fancy chocolates as they are too sweet for me. I just give it a try. My favorite snacks are almonds and walnuts to go with my whisky and beer !
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Posted by calvintaneng > Oct 19, 2013 08:26 PM | Report Abuse ...... Since you are here please read my comments carefully on PW Consolidated. Don't shut your mind. Decision to invest is up to you. At the end of the day success or failure in the KLSE is our own individual responsibility.
As to my huge interests in the well being of PM Corp, I need not elaborate. I have over 400 postings here in less than a month. I want to see PM Corp rise to RM1.50 Target Price. And In The Very Long Term - To Rise To RM10.00. And I put my money here as a proof in my firm conviction. WE ACT ACCORDING TO WHAT WE TRULY BELIEVE - NOT WHAT WE PRETEND TO BELIEVE!
My Ultimate, Highest Interest Is In The Most Exciting Development of Iskandar As The Fastest Growing Economic Region In The Entire World for the Next Ten Years!. -------------- me say: common everybody TP 1.50...then TP 10.00...no joke...and Iskandar will need tonnes of chocolate...because many rich people and singaporean will crazyly crave pmcorp chocolate...mari2...iskandar naik maknanya pmcorp pun naik...sampai 10 ringgit....mari2 ---- and calvin asked people to see his degrading of PW....hihi manyak tipu ma...records show the opposite between PW and PM ......so because calvin asked u all to see his posting about PW in this PM room...i also invite u all to see the comparisons between PW and PM...confirm calvin tak boleh jawab...at least the score is 11-1...pegi lah tengok macam calvin cakap --- once calvin was asked...if pmcorp has so many cash...then why it didn't settle all it's debts? apa calvin jawab: the management want to have good relation with the banks and in future they will need to make a loan ....GUA CAKAP...very confusing...i mean convincing calvin with your sweet talk....please search any debt-free company..and ask if they had bad/or not so good relation with banks because they didn't own them a cent... --- more words posted by calvin...more pandora box will be opened..haha --- go go go PW ...by the way honestly i think PM might go up...not fundamentally though...just big goreng by their directors and calvin sweet words (benda yg tak logik pun nampak logik...kecuali abang and kakak teliti betul2 perkataan2nya)...so good luck kawan2...but fundamentally ..proven record ..from 2001 to 2012 (see previous postings)...PW beats PM ..score = 11-1...wa tak cakap ma..lekod yg cakap ma --- do u all believe...company PMcorp yg cuma bisnes jual coklat and yg sewaktu dengannya with this: (that calvin said the TP is RM1.50...then TP RM10.00) 2001 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 20.11(Cents)....2001 PMcorp made .....EPS 4.85(Cents) 2002 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 18.20(Cents)....2002 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 46.22 !!! 2003 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 13.17(Cents)....2003 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 0.75 2004 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 1.820(Cents)....2004 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 140.39 !!! 2005 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 10.07(Cents)....2005 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 1.16 2006 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 6.880(Cents)....2006 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 9.54 !!! 2007 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 8.600(Cents)....2007 PMcorp made .....EPS 3.41(Cents) 2008 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 1.670(Cents)....2008 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 5.54 2009 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 0.180(Cents)....2009 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 0.17 2010 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 0.270(Cents)....2010 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 0.63 2011 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 7.810(Cents)....2011 PMcorp made .....EPS 0.39(Cents) 2012 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 0.320(Cents)....2012 PMcorp made .....EPS 1.13(Cents) --- with PM losses in 2002 =46.22 cents!!!....also!!!...PM losses in 2004 140.39 cents !!!! --- kawan2 if PMcorp repeat what they did in 2004 ...their nta will be negative..hehehehehe ...
(if) ... 44cents-140.30cents=???...sendili kila lah itu difelen..wa malas mau kila...hehe TP RM10.... may next year like every year PMcorp will not give dividen as usual...may be they will suplise u all with the 'DIFELEN'....haha
pakcik ayam apa pasal tak loyal pada company ayam macam PW? apasal sokong parti coklat? pakcik orang melayukah?ingat..bukan semua melayu coklat... ingat..parti coklat tu musuh kita...hidup ayam ..tua dan muda..hidup
first posting by calvin to start PROMOTING pmcorp...not in pmcorp room...instead in focal room...ada udang pasal focal tengah hot masa tu Stock: [FOCAL]: FOCAL AIMS HOLDINGS BHD Sep 20, 2013 11:28 AM | Report Abuse
Don't be sad in you miss FOCAL AIM at 25 cts. There's Another Counter with VERY HIGH NTA & POWERFUL PROSPECT - PM CORP (4081) See Postings on PAN MALAYSIA CORP - A VERY UNDERVALUED COUNTER AT www.jbhouseforsale.com. In 2006 we recommended BJ CORP at 12 cts. Nobody believe & everybody say bad stuff about BJ Corp. 2 Years later in Year 2008 BJ Corp shot up 10 times to over RM1.50! A ten bagger.- Peter Lynch's favourite. Some Day PM CORP like FOCAL AIM WILL BE THE NEXT TEN BAGGER.. ---- see this: (last number are Volume) Friday October 18 0.22 0.225 0.22 0.225 2,274,900 Thursday October 17 0.23 0.235 0.22 0.225 4,175,700 Wednesday October 16 0.22 0.23 0.215 0.23 7,535,700 Monday October 14 0.21 0.22 0.205 0.215 4,223,400 Friday October 11 0.215 0.215 0.205 0.215 3,180,100 Thursday October 10 0.22 0.225 0.21 0.21 8,332,500 Wednesday October 09 0.225 0.225 0.205 0.22 6,259,300 Tuesday October 08 0.22 0.23 0.215 0.225 5,977,100 Monday October 07 0.23 0.235 0.215 0.22 6,342,700 Friday October 04 0.215 0.24 0.215 0.225 12,496,100 Thursday October 03 0.18 0.235 0.18 0.225 16,779,500 Wednesday October 02 0.18 0.18 0.175 0.18 1,022,100 Tuesday October 01 0.17 0.185 0.17 0.18 1,567,600 Monday September 30 0.18 0.185 0.17 0.18 2,132,400 Friday September 27 0.17 0.185 0.17 0.18 5,012,900 Thursday September 26 0.155 0.165 0.155 0.165 691,300 Wednesday September 25 0.165 0.165 0.16 0.16 652,200 Tuesday September 24 0.16 0.165 0.155 0.165 829,400 Monday September 23 0.15 0.165 0.15 0.16 1,549,500
Friday September 20 0.140 0.15 0.140 0.15 337,200
Thursday September 19 0.140 0.145 0.140 0.145 116,000 Wednesday September 18 0.135 0.140 0.135 0.140 84,000 Tuesday September 17 0.140 0.140 0.140 0.140 188,300 Thursday September 12 0.135 0.135 0.135 0.135 5,000 Wednesday September 11 0.135 0.135 0.135 0.135 507,000 Tuesday September 10 0.13 0.135 0.13 0.13 408,000 Monday September 09 0.13 0.135 0.13 0.135 230,400 Friday September 06 0.135 0.135 0.13 0.13 269,200 Wednesday September 04 0.135 0.135 0.135 0.135 86,100 Tuesday September 03 0.13 0.135 0.13 0.135 64,500 Monday September 02 0.135 0.135 0.13 0.135 276,000 ----- first day of promoting day for pmcorp by calvin was on september 20 ...the volume was ciput on 20 september and days before it...except 11 september with 507,000 unit ...if u consider bigger than 500k is big volume --- then see days after 20 september....volume increases unexpectedly....and price also increase drastically --- all these...calvin and directors of pmcorp...are super sharks that have invested...i mean infested i3investor and also other blogs...so all friends..please beware ...if u want to play this ...sure can..but...run and hit...no long term or mid term investment...all are craps --- calvin ...there're ,more pandora box..as i said before .... PMcorp...goreng boleh...honestly....but for fundamental stock with high nta...= PW consolidated...RM 3.51 ...go go go PW --- people ..i'm not attacking calvin with words...i attack him with DATA....record ma
I support Pan Malaysia Corporation because kita 1Malaysia, 1Negara, PM Corp up = all of us untung!!! But I bought a little bit only since I'm just graduated & start to work this year. If PM Corp hit RM1.50, I think many ppl would going to turn their RM10k into more than RM60k. Thanks anbz, we will be cautious. Although I have a degree in actuarial & a master, but I feel that I still have a lot of things to learn from you all. I wish to meet Calvin in person, having a chat with him would benefit me a lot since I'm just a beginner here.
I trust more on data than words . We should be responsible in our actions and deeds when come to promoting shares where we have an interest will definitely invite gossips .
Posted by anbz > Oct 20, 2013 12:37 AM | Report Abuse kcchong...calling kcchong...didn't i gave all the DATA/facts as u ascribed it..well?
anbz, I don't need to check and I believe what you gave on the profit and losses of PM Corp and PW Con are true. I don't think you would simply make up numbers. You should be good at numbers, after all you are a graduate in Mathematics.
However, you have to gauge if those comparative numbers are relevant or not. They are history, history of years ago. What is important is the present and the future.
I know something about PMCorp as I have done some analysis of its financial statement and posted in this thread before. My reason of investing in PMCorp is because of its value in Graham net-net. This investing strategy is low risk because if net-net is more than its present share price, especially this net-net is made up with quality assets like cash and investments where there is a market value, there is little risk that you will lose much.
Have you look into what PW Con's assets are made up of? Is there huge amount in receivables which are you sure they are collectible, and what is the aging analysis of this receivables? Is it made up of mostly inventories, plant and equipment and what are the likely fire-sale value of these stuff? How much PW Con is owing to creditors? Is the net asset made up of intangibles? So after you get the realizable value of this assets, is it enough to pay creditors? After paying, how much is left?
You talked about its earnings, what is the quality of its earnings? Is the earnings from sale of land, plant etc? Is the earnings from its core business actually profitable? How is its cash flows? Any free cash flow? Because with adequate cash flow to cover interest payment, it becomes risky. Without free cash flow, company has to keep on borrowing money to pay dividend, to do investment, to buy new equipment etc.
I actually don't have the details though I have done a little analysis when someone asked me a few months ago. Yes, these are all the questions you have to find answers for for PW Con.
Posted by iafx > Oct 19, 2013 05:03 PM | Report Abuse mr.market interested in real hard $ only, not paper value. pmcorp so good directors, employees buy up already, still struggle as penny? sigh.
Posted by anbz > Oct 19, 2013 05:56 PM | Report Abuse calvin calvin...iafx sedang sindir u...he is teasing u lah...and u act as if he is actually praising PMcorp in real????? with this: 1. "pmcorp so good directors" by iafx... and u simply wrote the same phrases? without thinking...what would people say then .after this...Lol...good directors 2. iafx gives u this...>>>>> mr.market interested in real hard $ only, not paper value 3. with this "fuuyyooi." by iafx 4. with this "value for $ power story writter" by iafx......the story is power...just the story or the stock also??? 5. ;) ....by iafx ....siap kenyit mata tu...haha 6. by iafx : "still struggle as penny? sigh." ...what's that 'sigh' for --- bro iafx...memang pandai cakap sama olang....bikin org pun susah mau malah...kena senyum sama dia ma...dalam hati cakap: ini olang sudah "kenakan" aku...tapi apa boleh buat..tak tau mau response apa...pasal memang betul ma..dia punya opposite la ---
anbz, your "brother"'s comments have no substance. Compared to the knowledge calvin has, it is like 小巫見大巫. I don't think calvin even bother to reply on those comments.
Here a lot noise in this forum.we are here to make the money, not are fighting each other..time will prove calvon, jcool, newstockbie, anbz , iafc, kc. And etc whose comment are correct.
avenger 88, if you thoroughly read through the postings of those you mentioned, I think it's quite a direct conclusion of who is talking sense and logic and who isn't ! You judge for yourself.
inwest88 u r absolutely right. After having read all the postings in this thread v already hv the answer & judgement on who is talking sense & logic n who is talking rubbish & creating nuisance in this forum thread.
This forum is supposed to be a learning & sharing centre & is not for argument & personal attack forum. This educational blog with a common goal is to make profits for all i3investor readers & not to turn into a battlefield.
At the end of the day, the final decision is yours to make after reading all the comments. Good luck & hv a profitable week ahead.
in term of trading...i showed in my postings before (with concrete data) that 1. the volume started to shoot only after 20 sept which was the first day ...the first posting by calvin to promote pmcorp..which was done not in pmcorp's room but in focal aim's room...because that was when focal aim was hot that day...very intentional indeed
2. Posted by mikekong55 > Oct 19, 2013 04:39 PM | Report Abuse
calvin, are you the TAN ENG YEE stated as the top 30 shareholders of PMCORP? out of curiosity just for the asking only.
3. Posted by calvintaneng > Oct 19, 2013 04:45 PM | Report Abuse
You have found the truth, mikekong55! Yes I Am! And with me are a large group of Johor Investors!
4. after i said something is not right between hjey and calvin....then hjey dissapears
5. because of confession by calvin in (3).....so i decide to figure out ..since when is this calvin tan eng yee become investor of pmcorp...then i found that annual report 2009: List of Thirty (30) Largest Securities Account Holders ....26. Tan Eng Yee 960,500 0.14% ...he was in 26th position http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/staticfile/113799.jsp scroll to page 74
9. price range price of pmcorp in 2009 ..between 9 cents and 15 cents price of pmcorp in 2010 ..between 11 cents and 14 cents price of pmcorp in 2011 ..between 8 cents and 16 cents price of pmcorp in 2012 ..between 9 cents and 11 cents --- so calvin do make his "average" for this gem stock....he must be frustrated most in 2011 when it reached 8 cents and in 2012 when the range was between 9 and 11 cents ...only 2 cents different..and mind u that 11 cents occurred for only few days from my checking
10. this 2013 must be his laughing year...now around 22 cents ...what a suffer after so long for this ""gem stock""?...and u all has helped him alot...very much...he must has been going to tuition/classes to improve his english writings and "coning classes" as well , to be an expert like today!!! --- caution ...calvin is one of the majority shareholders...one of the shark...proven ..or just a long frustrated trapped investor..who are now quite RELIEF..thank God he say: i read bible --- again this is all DATA ...do check all the links... :) .. go go go PW consolidated bhd TP RM???...nta=RM3.51 ..current TTM earning per share = 8.14 cents..price only 73cents...never make losses every year compared to Pmc.... data speaks all
anbz. Thank you very much for your very accurate collating of all the figures and prices of my investments in PM Corp from year 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012. You missed out year 2007 & year 2008 when I was not yet in the Top 30 Shares holders.
Price range of PM Corp
Year 2007 : 18 cents and 44 cents Year 2008 9 cents and 29 cents
Have I done the Focal people harm & disservice when I told them to switch at RM2.40 (A Bubble)
to PM Corp at 15 cents (The Bargain of The Century!)
Haven't I made a Right Call For Them when Focal price has dropped back to RM2.08 & PM Corp has gone up to 22.5 cents?
And why should you be so frustrated when the people of PM Corp Forum have joined in the Greatest Party in KLSE for Years To Come. I have received so many phone calls & e-mails telling me how grateful they were for the introduction of this Undiscovered Gem in KLSE.
And have I done you harm by telling the truth regarding PW CON? Why should you be so incensed by my conclusions? So many have made conclusions and pass judgment on PM Corp and even on my character. Am I moved by them or seek out a quarrel?
anbz please desist from your virulent & relentless attack of A ROCK SOLID COUNTER LIKE PM CORP. All the Eggs thrown from PW CON at THE SOLID ROCK of PM CORP will not make even a dent.
When PM Corp was at RM13.00 Mr. Market & All Analyst Highly Recommended It As A Blue Chip.
And Now PM CORP at 22.5 cents AT ROCK BOTTOM PRICE, Mr. Market & So Many Scratched Their Heads In Disbelief That This Counter Should Rebound?
it will take sometime for this stock to digest the sellers market . At 23 and 23.5 cts . there are many sellers waiting to unload the shares. Some one quoted this share may touch at 13.00 ? I do not think so, if it can reach 50 cts is considered too good a bargain already.
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Posted by izoklse > 2013-10-19 17:46 | Report Abuse
you memang hebat la calvin.everyday people non-stop try to discredit you and make your explanation look wrong but you never stop your explanation and one by one fall and gone. You know i think you are saying the truth. If you know what you are say is true and you never step back and that is the time people should start look. If you want to go out and abandon this forum long time a go you have done it when non-stop people attacking your explanation and promotion of this counter but you never do that.Instead you stick to your explanation and argument. Now i have a respect on you.