JN88 has been here long before you showed up newinvestor17. As have I. JN88 has his own style of commenting, which you will understand if you have been here long enough. Obviously you don't.
Newinvestor 17, there is nothing wrong with JN88's comments. He has his right in tis forum. Do u scold yr boss, wife, friends, parents, kids etc if they voice up against yr views?
if you have been here long enough, apparently not (you are very new here), you will notice that no one uses bad words, curse words. You calling people dog and talking about people's mom and all is horrible...please refrain
Good one Bro RenegadeMaster, I totally agree with you. Such abusive style must end now. It's really a waste of time to listen to such notorious personality, where most of us are trying to learn something useful from experienced individuals, to try to make some money. I have been here long enough and know JN88, RenegadeMaster, elbrutus , and where is Angelol ? … those days of BWC were annoying, but it was never abusive like this. Pls share meaningful info, newinvestor17, actually you are the one who is barking !
I am sorry but if newbies who don’t study and buy solely based on the comments on i3 deserves the punishment if the share price drops. So if you may, please just stop the abusive comment. I believe you have done enough for your “moral obligation”
If you are not even interested in this counter for anytime soon, you can just leave it to us who are still interested and looking to enter or top up SOON.
Haha I think newinvestor17 just hates baseless promoters. But yes jn88 is been around for along time, usually his comment are sarcastic don't take him seriously. But again , yes newinvestor17 chillax a bit. I loath baseless promoters too but sometimes ignorance is bliss.
Frankly next two year coming years gonna be a rough ride for the economy. I just hope everyone is not foolish enough to buy or sell without doing proper research of the company. Most important always buy within your limits and be patient
This is what my boy Jaya posted on the Dec 31, 2018 07:52 AM | Report Abuse
"TF going to give another 50c shortly"
My Question to my fellow Jaya is
How shortly is shortly bro ? 1q? 2 more quarters ? 4 more quarters ?
How do you know it's 50cents ? Rumour ? Who spreader the rumour lol ?
Infact the biggest rumour lurking around in the market is that Jaya is overpromoting AA because he wants others to come in and buy the sell walls so that his sell order matches.
How did u derive the value of 50cents as another special dividends ? Why 50cents and not 40cents, 10cents or 5cents? Or why not 80cents?
Did you even consider the view of the management if they wanted to declare that much as a dividend as being worth or not ?
From the management's perspective, they could say that by paying a smaller dividend is better as they may have other plans to use their excess cash from their disposal/sales as a means of investing back into AA, let it be in improving their operations, enhancing their digitalisation efforts etc.
For you to be 100% sure that TF is paying a dividend of RM0.50 when the market doesn't know the exact amount means only 2 things: 1. you are making up stories (as usual) 2. you are working with AA/or have sources from AA's internally (and if youre acting on unpublished news, you could be charged by the Securities Commissions for Insider Trading)
Last time you stressed several times, after the Special Dividends of RM0.40/share coming in, ALL INVESTORS would put their money back into AA (reinvest their dividend).
I can safely say that you were wrong. Many FM's took the dividends and closed their positions because prices seem high despite a chalky market situation.
Now u may claim that your i3 fellows all reinvested their dividends, but in a forum like this, people like you can say anything and the funniest part is that you were have 100 others following you and supporting you while a bigger number making investment decisions based on your fake news
Well, at least this 17 knows the difference between RM0.50 and 0.5 cent??
(this is old story already which everyone knows, I couldn't remember all the details, readers who got time please make my story more accurate, thanks in advance. )
1. Special Dividend in 4q when AAC sale concludes. If you don't understand english, i can't help you.
2. The 40c Special Dividend in Q3 was given, probably because a) Airasia has too much money, b) The deal has been dragged too long. So, a portion was given to reward shareholders.
The TF as we know, if 40c is all we got, then he would say something like, after so long, finally its done etc etc. No such talk yet, so i think there will be one more.
3. Everyone knows TF and MK did a private placement of RM1b to subscribe Airasia shares. Market believes they need the special dividend to repay bank loan.
You could argue why no another special dividend? Because Airasia needs the money? For what?
If you want to talk so much an hantam TPs, like say AA going to touch RM3.2 etc and when it touches (Not because of your tp but because of the markets view and valuation) then you would come up saying see I said that last time.
Like that I also can pull out predictions by hmmmmm, let say Petronas Dagang is going to touch RM30 someday soon (How soon, dont ask me as it could be maybe within a yr, 2 years, 10 years or 20 years). AND IF IT TOUCHES RM30 in like 10 years, then I can also come out like you and bark and say see I said last time it would touch RM30 ?
Fernandes: Non-core assets sale to fund special dividends He says the stakes are in food, engineering and duty-free businesses
StarBiz1 Nov 2017By B.K. SIDHU bksidhu@thestar.com.my
PETALING JAYA: AirAsia Bhd shares rose about 5% after its co-founder said that the airline plans to sell more stakes in its non-airline businesses to fund special dividends for shareholders.
AirAsia shares gained 16 sen yesterday to close at RM3.34.
Tan Sri Tony Fernandes, the co-founder and group CEO of AirAsia, told Reuters in Singapore yesterday that “we are going to special dividend those things out”.
Fernandes was talking about selling more stakes in its food, engineering and duty-free businesses.
“There is a whole pipeline of those assets. We do joint ventures (JVs) and eventually we will dispose of those JVs. They are not core. But the relationship will always stay,” Fernandes said.
This is not the first time Fernandes has said that he wants to sell stakes in AirAsia’s noncore assets, having first spoken about it more than a year ago.
On Monday, AirAsia said it had entered into a JV deal with Singapore’s SATS Ground Services Singapore Pte Ltd for ground-handling services in Malaysia and Terminal 4 Changi.
It will also look for opportunities for ground-handling services in Thailand, Indonesia, the Philippines and with third-party airlines.
Analysts are positive about the JV with SATS, as it not only helps AirAsia unlock the value of its assets, but also helps in improving its ground-handling services in terms of cost and efficiencies.
“The JVs and partnerships would further increase transparency, accountability and efficiency as AirAsia strives to create One AirAsia,” said an industry player.
AirAsia will book in an exceptional one-off gain of RM365.7mil and cash proceeds of RM372.2mil from the JV with SATS.
The deal is expected to be completed by end-November.
Kenanga Research said “we potentially see a round of special dividends of up to 11 sen per share (assuming a 100% pay-out on gains of RM365.7mil)”.
“Our 100% dividend payout assumption is in line with management’s promise to pay out proceeds of its business disposal and we note that AirAsia had previously paid out 100% dividends on its 50% stake sale of AACE (Insurance unit) worth RM429.3mil back in August 2017.”
CIMB Research said “we are raising our target price to RM3.67 a share, adding a special dividend per share (DPS) of 11 sen arising from the sale of Ground Team Red Sdn Bhd, taking the expected total special DPS to RM1.27.”
The DPS of RM1.27 is based on several transactions being concluded.
CIMB Research added that on Aug 25, AirAsia had proposed to sell its 50% interest in AACOE (pilot and crew training school) to CAE for US$100mil (13 sen/share), with RM304.8mil in a one-off gain, also expected to be completed by end-November.
AirAsia is still negotiating the sale of around a 70% stake in Asia Aviation Capital Ltd (aircraft leasing arm), at a whole-company valuation of some US$1bil, and also a sale of its remaining 25% interest in AAE Travel for around US$100mil.
“In our estimate, the latter two are worth RM1.03/share, if the entire proceeds are paid out as dividends,” it said.
supersaiyan3, if you have been following TF, from last time he talks one thing and does another. Plus that article was in 2017 lol Bring in new news and not old ones la boss.
you think a 2017 news hasn't been priced by the market is it ? lol
I have been following TF for a long time, as early as I started covering him for my internal memos. He definitely has to talk positive of his company.
Look at AAX for an example, every year's AGM also die die want to cry and say AAX is the lowest valued airline in the world and the share prices should be higher next yr.
Come next year, he says the same things and says that the next yr (following years), aax would go up.
But you dont need much brains to see, just open up the chart for AAX's chart and see, is it on an upward or downward trend despite him saying its undervalued ?
If you dont see a downward trend then you need to consult an optometrist asap lol
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Posted by newinvestor17 > 2019-01-11 11:53 | Report Abuse
Another joker trying to get others to follow his teaching
Good joke lol
Thats why I enjoy reading this forum, tons of jokers here lol