I think many people in this forum fail to see the amount of efforts high volume investors need to do to create buyers when they want to sell and sellers when they want to buy. When you have a lot of money and you are interested in a certain counter, you need the opposite to create an opportunity for you to enter and the same when you want to exit. Knowing and understanding this, then you will understand how they write their articles. When KYY wants to buy Gadang at 'X' price, he will have to create a wave of sellers to sell down towards that 'X' price. When he wants to sell after accumulation, he will have to create a wave of buyers too. Logic people. There are no saints here
Dear all bro and sis, I think we all should share info on the share in this forum, no to hentam ppl here. Buy n Sell is OUR own DECISION. Nobody can force us to buy n sell !!!!! Most of us are average, no smart or stupid. But once in a while everybody will some bad choices that look stupid because we are not god.
Job Liew sifu, cool down. KYY didnt force you to buy, yes. But you just said you buy after reading his article, yes? That's influence, yes? He infulence you to buy and sell, yes? If many people like you got influenced like you, plus a big shareholders buying/selling, share price sure move up and down, fufiling the prophecy, yes?
@TKSW, Job Liew sifu, cool down. KYY didnt force you to buy, yes. But you just said you buy after reading his article, yes? That's influence, yes? He infulence you to buy and sell, yes? If many people like you got influenced like you, plus a big shareholders buying/selling, share price sure move up and down, fufiling the prophecy, yes?
- No, I buy Gadang way before KYY suggestion. What I means is his ways of share selection golden rules do influence me and help me in my investment.
now we can only hope for a bigger buyer to come out... KYY oni few million shares no problem, his influnce on others is the problem. See how much the buyers wanna defend and how deep is their pocket.
you see if Soros la, Bullfeet la, Standard & Poor's (S&P), Moody's, and Fitch Group said Malaysia sure bankrupt... and they short RM, you scared or not?
Job Liew Chee Fool As a mature mankind, investment decision is ours. Mr Koon, articles did not forces us to buy! We make own decisions! That is a personal responsible! Even Mr. OTB, he is a professional fund manager does not means he will be always right!! He is not God, he cant predict the future!! He tried his best to provide his professional advice towards the share! His analysis is full of the professional skill! This only enable us reduce our investment risk! But risk is still risk!! We still have a chance to loss!!
So, Whey Whey, I think OTB do a good job in his professional analysis towards the share!! With the analysis he share, he deserve the paid from his subscribers and worth!! Just a reminder, investment is a risk management job!! No, matter how well u manage, how professional you are!! It still have RISK!! and it still can cause you to loss money!!
So, be a mature mankind! Don't 输打赢要!Thats a bad attitude! 24/11/2016 10:40
Since when i 输打赢要?Im actually defending OTB here! Mind your word and think carefully b4 u talk and stop shouting. Thanks
Now back to the share itself... i suspect their intention to force sell down is to create fear and panic so all ikan bilis will sell like no tmr on monday once they received their new shares and free warrants..... So i advices all do ur own research when u choose to hold, sell or buy.... Invest on ur own risk..!
Notes to long term investors: 1. Does Gadang have good fundamentals? - Yes 2. Is Gadang highly leveraged? - No 3. IS Gadang smartly diversified? - Yes 4. Past 5 year performance consistent? - Yes 5. Is market in favor of Gadang's business? - Yes
No point looking at quarterly results and sum up overall opinion of a company. If you call yourself an investor, you invest in prospects and overall performance of the company as a whole. Not penalize on every quarterly results. A year of outperformance can very well deter from outperformance in the following year but that doesn't summarize that they company is not a good one. Actually it all boils down to your holding power.
What is bad about certain individuals is that they create a panic as though a tsunami is coming. Don't forget, they may be the tsunami themselves. This is unhealthy for effective evaluations but of course benefits certain individuals at the loss of many.
Gadang股东大会,郭安在大会前,就面对一名小股东追问,为什麽第一季盈利会"突然"下跌? 郭安用广东话回答:「你放心,第二季应该会好。」 Based on 郭安 previous character and performance and management style, I do trust his words.
But I advice as per Whey Whey said, all do ur own research when u choose to hold, sell or buy.... Invest on ur own risk..!
Good finally mr OTB is giving useful information here. Now all do your homework to see how true is this and choose ur call. I believe Gadang is a good company with good management... They know what they doing unless there is an insider cooperate with the sydicate to create fear to press down the price. Which is out of our control also because we all just ikan bilis..
Posted by Victor Tan > Nov 24, 2016 12:06 PM | Report Abuse
Notes to long term investors: 1. Does Gadang have good fundamentals? - Yes 2. Is Gadang highly leveraged? - No 3. IS Gadang smartly diversified? - Yes 4. Past 5 year performance consistent? - Yes 5. Is market in favor of Gadang's business? - Yes
No point looking at quarterly results and sum up overall opinion of a company. If you call yourself an investor, you invest in prospects and overall performance of the company as a whole. Not penalize on every quarterly results. A year of outperformance can very well deter from outperformance in the following year but that doesn't summarize that they company is not a good one. Actually it all boils down to your holding power.
What is bad about certain individuals is that they create a panic as though a tsunami is coming. Don't forget, they may be the tsunami themselves. This is unhealthy for effective evaluations but of course benefits certain individuals at the loss of many.
Dun simply said it will up or down ... Pls explain with details... so tat we can analyze our self ... What OTB & Victor Tan Sharing... I very appreciate ...
Those Who told ppl to sell n shift to XXX counter 别有居心....
Hopefully there is enough buyers to support the price. Dont like to see certain individual and sydicate win the war.... like our goverment now, we must believe if we all united together, we shall win the war.
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Posted by tksw > 2016-11-24 10:47 | Report Abuse
excelyou sifu, can or cannot? looks like cannot liao, yes?