Posted by region > 2014-12-13 08:12 |

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Posted by jocky99 > 2014-12-13 08:25 | Report Abuse

hi sifu , if let say klci drop 1000 , mean hb are more expensive. bank willing to pay us so much? and they will get big lost from their money.
thanks

Posted by region > 2014-12-13 08:37 | Report Abuse

they will pay la ofcourse = .= they where got lose money they already earn from call warrant which ppl bet on upward.

Posted by simon84 > 2014-12-13 08:56 | Report Abuse

Dow Jones 17281(-325)
Oil Usd57.31 (-Usd2.50)

Dow Jones just breaked the 17300 support and making another new low at 17254.
Total falling almost 700 points just took a week. FOr my personal opinion Dow Jones my break below 17000 level and oil hit till USD 55 per barrel by next week.

KLCI next week may break below 1700 level and I believe Local Fund support may ended yesterday after they failed to convinced the retailers .

Disclaimes .This is my personal view only and not buy or sell call. Tradr at your own risk.

Posted by little_snake > 2014-12-13 10:08 | Report Abuse

aiya...
optimus got his point,
newklear do so,
n oso simon84...
so peace la... dun fight here ad... we all looking for $$$ but not chat room war


PEACE

Posted by duitkwspkita > 2014-12-13 11:11 | Report Abuse

Good morning little_snake,
dear simon84,
dear optimuss,
dear newklear,

good day to you all.
firstly, I must say I am ur fan. I follow all ur sharing. I can't contribute anything to this thread except for pleasing. I will keep pleasing everyone here. Because at the end all of us will benefit from their analysis.

little_snake. All of three persons assume high position in corporate world. Believe me they have greatest EQ, while debate they respect each other simply because great persons like them will use knowledge to convince ppl. They wanna prove their theory at the same time to warn newbie like me don't blindly speculate based on market sentiment. Optimuss, newklear and Simon will never behave rude becoz it is very common for them to fight in corporate war......

they are highly civilized people, they challenge each other with economic and market psychological facts....

again, my last bodek.... I admired you guys. I envy your talent in defending ur stand with global market view. I will learn fast to understand your valuable points.

happy weekend!

Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-13 11:26 | Report Abuse

Wait n see on monday. Dj close at around support level. May rebound 200 pts on monday nite
Klci may open -13pts.
Tuesday would b best time to buy? As if monday dj rebound 200 after drop 320. Snp is at very strong support level of 2000.anytime bounce off.
Dont listen to me. I m just jolting down ideas.

Posted by kayceeloh > 2014-12-13 11:28 | Report Abuse

so where is your technical rebound? lol

Posted by murali > 2014-12-13 11:28 | Report Abuse

Of late we have our own way....we will still go south whether DJ is up or down

Posted by saddiqsepakraga > 2014-12-13 11:32 | Report Abuse

optimuss, which sector will you consider when buy signal appears?

Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-13 11:32 | Report Abuse

U miss the point. I m waiting for the narrowing of premium. Who doesnt know klci is bear mkt?

Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-13 11:34 | Report Abuse

Saddiq. Only 1 sector. Big semicon. Bursa has 3. Mpi. Gtronic. Unisem. The most progressive is unisem. The worst is mpi

Posted by saddiqsepakraga > 2014-12-13 11:36 | Report Abuse

noted tq.....sEacera-wb no go ya...hehe?

Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-13 11:40 | Report Abuse

Check my previous post. I said dj wil drop to 17300. Snp 2000.
With oil at 57. Very near to temporary bottom.
Dont want to get caught with a technical rebound. Safety first.
Always can make money if u know how to play futures mkt.
No nid to force urself to trade put warrant if the premium is ridiculous. Go straight into futures.
Not late to go open a futures acct n start learning. We can share knowledge. I m not here to make enemies.

Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-13 11:41 | Report Abuse

Saddiq. I have sold off all seacera-wb above 80c n never look at it. Too illiquid.

Posted by saddiqsepakraga > 2014-12-13 11:44 | Report Abuse

optimuss, I know you sold off sEacera- wb already....you bought 20+ sen, abit lower than mine, hehe..

Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-13 11:45 | Report Abuse

U still holding. If can hold good. Still got hope.

Posted by saddiqsepakraga > 2014-12-13 11:47 | Report Abuse

nope, sold lower than yours....

Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-13 11:49 | Report Abuse

The promised annoucement never appear month after month...

Posted by kawteongeng > 2014-12-13 11:56 | Report Abuse

Wakakakaka... watch larr...klci open with 50 points drop...wakakakakaka...money so easy... every week 50 points to 100 points short klci...wakakakakaka

Posted by Up_down > 2014-12-13 12:04 | Report Abuse

Optimuss got his points in trading futures rather than picking FBMKLCI-HB at this moment. At this price FBMKLCI-HB premium is actually rather high. Risks and rewards is not justified unless market mispricing due to heavy speculation. In fact, we can comparing the returns between Futures and FBMKLCI-HB if KLCI drop to 1600 .

Posted by Up_down > 2014-12-13 12:08 | Report Abuse

If I am not mistaken, FBMKLCI-HE would provide a balance between risks and rewards. When KLCI drop below 1,600, the rewards from this put warrant is higher than Futures.

Posted by kawteongeng > 2014-12-13 12:12 | Report Abuse

Wakakakaka...short klci larr...1680 then switch long larr...this also you do not know ahh? Aiyaa... so hopeless larr

Posted by region > 2014-12-13 15:59 |

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Posted by region > 2014-12-13 16:05 | Report Abuse

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/brent-hits-five-half-low-034420232.html

all the market and forecast show oil gonna further down. So no need to worried. KLCI will drop low as well.

Posted by simon84 > 2014-12-13 17:24 | Report Abuse

Did anyone know what is Risk Aversion and Risk Appetite ? US market now is losing Risk Appetite and Risk Aversion take placed.Did anyone know how scary Risk Aversion is ? It can takes several days to shoot down US Market with 1000 points.

When Risk Aversion take place Risk Appetite also need runaway . I experienced this before .Dow Jones can fall 300-400 points per day and fall without mercy....

Do you think KLCI still can maintain above 1700 level ? Based on the chart KLCI failed to rebound from 1730 level and monday confirm gap down and fall at least 20 points and above .. When this happen it form another down leg and may hit 1660 level.. Anywhere can it rebound from that support 1660 just depend to Local Fund and DJ any improvement .But if fall again then we may see 1600 level.

Trade at your own risk..

Posted by region > 2014-12-13 17:51 | Report Abuse

yup i agree is bellow on 1700 even 1600, but cant stand some ppl keep spread negative rumor and try misleading everyone haizz

Posted by region > 2014-12-13 17:52 | Report Abuse

Simon nvm we all wait them to buy from us on higher price better haha

Posted by little_snake > 2014-12-13 19:25 | Report Abuse

if like tis we all in short ci future... r we gonna earn more like wat optimuss said?
coz i go c de how its work... index point X rm50 = a lot eh... lol
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Posted by simon84 > Dec 13, 2014 05:24 PM | Report Abuse

Did anyone know what is Risk Aversion and Risk Appetite ? US market now is losing Risk Appetite and Risk Aversion take placed.Did anyone know how scary Risk Aversion is ? It can takes several days to shoot down US Market with 1000 points.

When Risk Aversion take place Risk Appetite also need runaway . I experienced this before .Dow Jones can fall 300-400 points per day and fall without mercy....

Do you think KLCI still can maintain above 1700 level ? Based on the chart KLCI failed to rebound from 1730 level and monday confirm gap down and fall at least 20 points and above .. When this happen it form another down leg and may hit 1660 level.. Anywhere can it rebound from that support 1660 just depend to Local Fund and DJ any improvement .But if fall again then we may see 1600 level.

Trade at your own risk..

Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-13 19:37 | Report Abuse

If u had shorted ci futures contract at 1830 by paying rm4k margin. Npw u can short another 1 contract without paying extra margin. Then at 1680 u can short another 1 contract for free. So u have 3 contract. Just with 4k deposit. If ci drop to 1600. U made 230pt. 130pts 80pts =440pts x 50= 22k. Jus by 4k initial investment. If ci drop to 1500. U made 37k. Commision paid. Less than rm 100.
Can u do that with put warrant?

Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-13 19:40 | Report Abuse

If i can continue adding short to downtrend. 4k can make 500k if klci really drop n u know how to play the game
Nikkei was 12000 n went up near 18000. Using the pyramic method. 4k can make 100 million.

Posted by kawteongeng > 2014-12-13 19:40 | Report Abuse

Wakakakaka... only now think of short klci... too late larr... now take long 1680 larr

Posted by F22Raptor > 2014-12-13 19:43 | Report Abuse

klci rsi now 28,monday drop 20 pts become 18.....wakakakaka....yummyyyyy.

Posted by kawteongeng > 2014-12-13 19:45 | Report Abuse

Wakakakaka..come come..short klci..later rebound all putih mata...wakakakakaka

Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-13 19:47 | Report Abuse

So we know only those who donno anything abt futures r shouting very exicted. As if they discovered something great. Put warrant klci...
No need argue with me. I m a licensed futures trader. Here who got?
Otb got or not?

Posted by F22Raptor > 2014-12-13 19:48 | Report Abuse

wakakakaka i m waiting to collect musang king.after i collect i will announce.

Posted by kawteongeng > 2014-12-13 19:49 | Report Abuse

Waakakakaka...start short klci 1830..now bursa 1732..only now want to short?...wakakakakaka

Posted by kawteongeng > 2014-12-13 19:51 | Report Abuse

Last week i ask you to short larr...now short want to lose mind?...wakakakaka

Posted by F22Raptor > 2014-12-13 19:52 | Report Abuse

monday i q buy future 1702.....wakakakaka.

Posted by F22Raptor > 2014-12-13 19:53 | Report Abuse

then 1698...wakakakaka.

Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-13 19:53 | Report Abuse

Shorted since oct. Togethet with oil. U can ask otb or kcloh they laughed at me said superbull til yeat end

Posted by F22Raptor > 2014-12-13 19:54 | Report Abuse

then 1692..susah a bit...wakakakaka.

Posted by kawteongeng > 2014-12-13 19:55 | Report Abuse

1680 confirm long larr

Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-13 19:55 | Report Abuse

No need waste time scare me. I have 20 yrs of futures experience i know when to do wat.

Posted by kawteongeng > 2014-12-13 19:56 | Report Abuse

no waste to short d...monday drop another 50 points then rebound larr...so no chance to short d larr

Posted by optimuss > 2014-12-13 19:56 | Report Abuse

Dont make me laugh now. I m trying to eat a cake. Dont wan next table suffers.

Posted by F22Raptor > 2014-12-13 19:57 | Report Abuse

ringgit cannot penetrate 3.5 to usd 1....wakakakaka....i m waiting.

Posted by little_snake > 2014-12-13 19:57 | Report Abuse

if missed the chance then wait lo... dun simply rush later die str8 str8 pun x tau wat happened lol

Posted by kawteongeng > 2014-12-13 19:57 | Report Abuse

monday short confirm burn d larr

Posted by F22Raptor > 2014-12-13 19:59 | Report Abuse

i m beginning to like kaw...wakakakaka.