Posted by PAULCHEONG > 2017-05-08 15:38 | Report Abuse

My money is very safe here

Posted by Yipi > 2017-05-08 15:41 | Report Abuse

PAULCHEONG, how to see death cross ya..

Posted by mancingbursa > 2017-05-08 15:46 | Report Abuse

Bcos i waiting gap down and want to collect ma....

Posted by nickengk > 2017-05-08 16:43 | Report Abuse

why you think it will gap down?

Posted by PAULCHEONG > 2017-05-08 17:03 | Report Abuse

Yipi, go KLSE - Open Historical Chart -set Sma, then u can see the purple and blue line

Posted by PAULCHEONG > 2017-05-08 17:06 | Report Abuse

Blue line down purple line up is is down trend, purple line down blue line up is up trend, when the blue line cross over the purple line is call death cross, then u need to sell it...

Posted by Yipi > 2017-05-08 17:09 | Report Abuse

technical close higher at 0.27 for today. Another 2 weeks going to have AGM. Is time to move, I believe management sure have some good news to announce. Move to main board????

Posted by Yipi > 2017-05-08 17:12 | Report Abuse

PAULCHEONG, thank a lot..

Posted by PAULCHEONG > 2017-05-08 17:34 | Report Abuse

This is very safe counter, just wait

Posted by Yipi > 2017-05-08 18:12 | Report Abuse

paulcheong, simple moving average period 1 and period 2 how to determine

Posted by mancingbursa > 2017-05-08 18:45 | Report Abuse

Paulcheong sma moving not enough to determine the klse movement. Do u do any studiea or test ur method?

Posted by iamgreenninja > 2017-05-09 00:05 | Report Abuse

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5421461

Our Group CFO - Goh Siow Ching exercised 1m share options at 0.205 and sold it at 0.265.

Based on the earlier announcement, there is still a balance of 175,000 to be sold. I believe the balance should also be hers. Let's see if she sells it all.

This girl is selling her shares like there's no tomorrow!

Why is she selling all her shares? I hope it is either because (i) she wants to avoid a conflict of interest in her current position or (ii) for personal reason that she needs the money. Certainly I hope that it is not because she doesn't see good quarters ahead.

She also sold close to 1m shares in earlier transactions.

Posted by iamgreenninja > 2017-05-09 00:11 | Report Abuse

Dezhi - if you are attending the AGM, can you try and find out the number of share options (ESOS) outstanding and what is the targeted issuance rate/amount?

Thanks, Bro.

Posted by klsefighter > 2017-05-09 00:15 | Report Abuse

Insiders keep selling ... Why ? ... Bad qtr result ahead ??

Posted by iamgreenninja > 2017-05-09 00:22 | Report Abuse

Another possible reason could be that the share options are expiring. They have limited time periods. If so, then it is perfectly understandable.

Posted by xiaoxiami > 2017-05-09 00:31 | Report Abuse

obviously its not bad quarter
why want to spectacular so much

she converted the ESOS on 2/5/17 and sell it on 8/5/17
my guess is most likely she needed the cash
turn out she only earn 60k only by selling so fast

as long as William is still holding we shall not worry so much

dont forget executive director HO is not holding any share , so do u means our executive director dont think company future is good ?

i had flip the annual report like 5 times and i dont see any reason why i should sell this company

most important is , i see future in this company
i been tracking company progress from facebook and recently constant have member days in meru branch , and hell yeah ... the response is super good
very crowded and they took the opportunity well in promoting the home brand - apotec , nushine and surya

dont forget company is on the way to get listed on main board and there's the time our patience will get rewarded

Posted by general t > 2017-05-09 08:42 | Report Abuse

that's why i said they are too busy buying and selling their owm share.
some more her position ' CFO ' the person controling the finance.
very misleading and people like us ikan bilis only know from outside.

They know the best from inside.

perhaps my knowledge is very shallow. very confused !!

Posted by iamgreenninja > 2017-05-09 09:13 | Report Abuse

xiaoxiami - thank you for going through the report in detail. Good work by you.

Like you, I went through the annual report and I am ok with the company. I haven't sold any shares in Biohldg since pre-bonus and pre-rights time. Have been holding for a long long time.

Let's hope that the coming quarter has good results.


General t - Good morning Sir!

Posted by PenguinDad > 2017-05-09 09:51 | Report Abuse

The sell down is mainly due to the warrant conversion and possible ESOS.

Posted by bjgdila123 > 2017-05-09 11:22 | Report Abuse

buang masa saja simpan 2 tahun halaga same same

Posted by Yipi > 2017-05-09 12:11 | Report Abuse

Jika u simpan dari 2 tahun lalu, sikarang u sudah untung lo.

So, use mouth talk is easy, are u able to hold for 2 years? Do u have such patient.

Investment is talking about future, how is the direction of the company. Bioalpha, from previous only run production, now almost 1 stop services, raw material, production, distribution, marketing, pharmacy, online shopping. You can see, no much risk to impact Bioalpha to grow. Not need to worry about raw material price increase, have own pharmacy to distribute the product, so there only need to focus on R&D, and improve production efficiency.
So what, investment must look at this point.

Posted by nickengk > 2017-05-09 14:17 | Report Abuse

well summarized yipi

Posted by iamgreenninja > 2017-05-09 14:23 | Report Abuse

Nice to see so many brothers (any sisters? ... haha) here so passionate about this company.

Posted by PenguinDad > 2017-05-09 15:12 | Report Abuse

Key mgt sell down is a signed that insider know something. Especially, is a CFO who know the financial performance and sell down at such a short period. Some problem going to happen?

Posted by general t > 2017-05-09 16:06 | Report Abuse

no comment .!!
someone mentioned this is normal. tak ada hal punya....
betul ke ???

Posted by Yipi > 2017-05-09 16:21 | Report Abuse

how ESOS work.

Employee stock options (ESOs) are call options on a company's common stock granted to a select group of its employees. Certain restrictions on the option provide a financial incentive for employees to align their goals with those of the company's shareholders.

If an employee working for company XYZ gets an option on 100 XYZ shares at $10 and XYZ's stock price goes up to $20, the employee can exercise the option and buy the 100 XYZ shares at the $10 strike price, sell them on the market for $20 each, and pocket the $1,000 difference ($2,000 - $1,000 = $1,000). If XYZ's stock never goes above the $10 strike price, the employee lets the option expire at no real cost to themselves.

Posted by Yipi > 2017-05-09 16:23 | Report Abuse

This is not because of why the CFO sold it. Is ESOS system that company gives the reward to specific employee for exercise it.

Posted by general t > 2017-05-09 17:08 | Report Abuse

knowing the company doing well.
but cepat cepat jual dengan harga murah ???

Posted by xiaoxiami > 2017-05-09 17:10 | Report Abuse

nice 1 yipi
dont panic pls guys
focus on the fundamental of company
dont get distracted

Posted by Yipi > 2017-05-09 18:19 | Report Abuse

http://klse.i3investor.com/additionalListing/0179/09-May-2017/16876_1720062996.jsp

Additional

Posted by Yipi > 2017-05-09 18:23 | Report Abuse

Look back for Bioalpha, as at today around 0.4% ESOS of total share issue. This is only the small amount to reward to employee. But anyhow, this type of scheme need to monitor, don't miss use. Anything also have pros and cons. but what I can see is this really is to reward to his staff like recently just get promote to CFO, Goh Siow Ching.

If another case is issue the of ESOS, but then exercise by William main shareholder then this consider of misuse like mention in statement above.

Posted by Yipi > 2017-05-09 18:25 | Report Abuse

Some Situation in Malaysia:

Real situation here is whereby rather than concern about the benefits of shareholders (who is also owner of the company), the directors in the some companies care about themself more. One of the infamous thing that board of directors like to do is issue a large amount of ESOS and when they reach the limit of ESOS, they enlarge the limit. (No limit on irrationality either)

(A recent example would be VS, increasing its ESOS from 10% to 15% of total shares issued; I don't own shares of VS, i don't know what is its business, just giving an example)

The board of directors will eloquentlly argued that the issuing ESOS is to make sure all its outstanding employees contribute more to the company by increasing it ownership feeling and increase the willingness to retent in the company.

HOWEVER, THINK TWICE. Look into the ESOS scheme (another company that voraciously issue ESOS is Favelle Favco, IOI corp and IOI property). WHO GET MOST OF THE ESOS? The CEO/ directors of the board who are ALSO ALREADY THE LARGEST SHAREHOLDER. Meanwhile, the employees will get the smallest slices of the cake (ESOS subscription right). Directors who use the fund of the shareholders to fatten their own wallet is not a honest-to-god act.

ESOS will dilute the EPS, ROE and DY (anything else good missed?). Using the money and trust from the shareholders to voraciously enlarge their already biggest shareholding via ESOS, well can be viewed as a warning sign of no integrity in the management board. Furthermore, you will notice that the one who will rubberstamps the ESOS will be the largest shareholders as well. More viciously, they enlarge it when it limit of ESOS is reached. If such a company also "coincidentally" pays a lot of salary to its CEO, these combinations mean no good to your own wallet. ESOS is not all bad, it is a good strategy, if used prudently.

Posted by Yipi > 2017-05-09 18:46 | Report Abuse

You can see how frequent of VS to issue ESOS. But the stock price is at 2.01 as at today.
So, whether this impact to company share price?? my answer is NO..........
In fact, VS is growing from time to time. and company reward to employee.
I can say is only company who care of employee will only do this, how many public listed can do this. You can see Bioalpha is just rewarding to their by contributing for last few year. They are geting significant growth. So what, such a good company sharing their profit, somemore the ESOS not impact so much to EPS. Anything to complaint about this company.

History of ESOS for company VS.
21-Apr-2017 25-Apr-2017 ESOS 200,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
18-Apr-2017 19-Apr-2017 ESOS 145,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
06-Apr-2017 07-Apr-2017 ESOS 50,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
30-Mar-2017 31-Mar-2017 ESOS 40,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
22-Mar-2017 23-Mar-2017 ESOS 23,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
21-Mar-2017 22-Mar-2017 ESOS 5,000,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
02-Mar-2017 03-Mar-2017 ESOS 40,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
21-Feb-2017 22-Feb-2017 ESOS 310,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
15-Feb-2017 16-Feb-2017 ESOS 345,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
02-Feb-2017 03-Feb-2017 ESOS 5,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
13-Jan-2017 16-Jan-2017 ESOS 5,000,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
09-Jan-2017 10-Jan-2017 ESOS 4,000,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
30-Dec-2016 03-Jan-2017 ESOS 90,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
20-Dec-2016 21-Dec-2016 ESOS 64,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
14-Dec-2016 15-Dec-2016 ESOS 110,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
07-Dec-2016 08-Dec-2016 ESOS 5,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
01-Dec-2016 02-Dec-2016 ESOS 300,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
28-Nov-2016 29-Nov-2016 ESOS 100,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
19-Oct-2016 20-Oct-2016 ESOS 125,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
12-Oct-2016 13-Oct-2016 ESOS 510,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
07-Oct-2016 10-Oct-2016 ESOS 90,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
23-Sep-2016 26-Sep-2016 ESOS 25,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
19-Sep-2016 20-Sep-2016 ESOS 20,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
08-Sep-2016 09-Sep-2016 ESOS 45,000 0.700 Additional Listing Detail
02-Sep-2016 05-Sep-2016 ESOS 30,000 0.700

Posted by hisehatu > 2017-05-09 18:55 | Report Abuse

Kahkahkah. Buang masa jer!

Posted by Pavillion > 2017-05-09 19:37 | Report Abuse

Issue ESOS only when your stock perform then it is real incentives to productive staff, otherwise shares dilution. ESOS get bank financing...so buta money. CFO smart lady.

Posted by mancingbursa > 2017-05-09 19:45 | Report Abuse

Sell tongkat ali no better than Viagra. No wonder lah.... Lembik

Posted by hisehatu > 2017-05-09 20:52 | Report Abuse

apa tunggu lagi. cabut la.. dont waste ur time here.

Posted by IncredibleThings > 2017-05-09 22:22 | Report Abuse

Ya guys. Sell all

Posted by tkp2 > 2017-05-09 22:29 | Report Abuse

haha, is about time to go up, all can't tahan already, this is what operator want to see

Posted by tkp2 > 2017-05-09 22:30 | Report Abuse

this operator really naughty

Posted by IncredibleThings > 2017-05-09 23:27 | Report Abuse

Yala . I already lazy to talk here. U guys cant tahan can really sell it off

Posted by hisehatu > 2017-05-10 07:49 | Report Abuse

Jual2. Buang masa.

Posted by PenguinDad > 2017-05-10 08:09 | Report Abuse

The commitment of the key mgt is questionable and it shows their way to see how this company value to the investor. Get rich fast! To lower level workers it is understandable but for senior executive they are high paid and it if they are also selling the company shares rather than support then it is NOT a GOOD SIGN.

Posted by Yipi > 2017-05-10 09:43 | Report Abuse

yeah... all sell in Thursday... good bye to u all.... hope u all not come back to this forum anymore..

Posted by Unicorn > 2017-05-10 16:06 | Report Abuse

http://wealthdirections.asia/common-tricks-the-stock-market-operators-do-to-make-you-sell-your-stocks/
:P

Posted by general t > 2017-05-10 16:52 | Report Abuse

ESOS no question ask about to reward the employees or management for their good work.

Now they are the one who operate the company knowing what's going on or the future of the company.
If you are confident with the future of the company will you sell cheap or rather HOLD after exercise esos..

what messages are they trying to release ??
If to tricks orhers to sell , what for ? Don't they also need the market to support the movements of the price of the stock.

Better to delist if not willing to share the growth and profit , don't even mention transfer to main board.

Sincerely focus to grow the company , Mr Market will rewards you greatly

Posted by xiaoxiami > 2017-05-10 17:35 | Report Abuse

1 cfo sell her share like Earth is going to collapse tomorrow
William selling now?
Malaysia technology selling now?
Pns selling now?

Can u control the key management to buy or sell share? No right?

So Focus back on the fundamental of company

The cfo only be appointed since April 2017
And William have been there since 2005
We shall put our trust in William and no question if revenue and profit can't improve we shall sell it

now company have clear direction and wise plan not to mention intention for main board listing

Those criticize here perhaps u can give example of other undervalue, good prospect, high growth gem with goverment back up company

Posted by Unicorn > 2017-05-10 17:58 | Report Abuse

From thestar biz, /china-to-scrutinise-active-stock-traders/

"Authorities will apply extra scrutiny to active traders, investors who control large sums of money and accounts that have already been flagged for special monitoring, the people said. State-backed funds stand ready to buy shares if needed, they said."

I think I'm one of the biohldg holders who has been flagged by biohldg operator for special monitoring liao..

Posted by Yipi > 2017-05-10 18:59 | Report Abuse

What I know is total ESOS will be around 29m share. So, for those cannot tahan can sell it tml. Don't say I not tell u all.

Posted by Yipi > 2017-05-10 19:08 | Report Abuse

Q117 would have 133.333m more shares from right issue, 29m share issuance scheme option(more to come as they are allow to issue up to 279.999m) and 133.333m warrant.