Choivo Capital

(CHOIVO CAPITAL) Yearly Update and Memo to my Investors.

Choivo Capital
Publish date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018, 02:42 PM

Dear Fund Investors/IOU Holders,

Introduction
Since the inception of this fund on the 21st March 2017 to the 3rd of January 2018, the fund have recorded a gain of XX.XXX%. Depending on the date of your investment, or investment structure with me, your returns is likely to differ.

This result, is currently ahead of FD: 4.2%, 2016 EPF rates of 5.7%, and the KLSE index of 9.53%.

It is however, far below the gains of the S&P 500 index of 20.37%, the Dow Jones Industrial Average index of 26.38% or the NASDAQ NMS Composite Index of 29.47%.

The primary reason for our under performance in comparison to the US stock market indices, is due to our lack of exposure of US stock market.

Having said that, the fund is unlikely to be investing in the US stock markets for the foreseeable future (unless extenuating circumstances occur), as my circle of competence currently reside mainly in Malaysian, and to a small extent, Singaporean equities. Given time, we may expand more fully to Singaporean equities.

However, I would like to also elaborate on one other reason why I invest in Malaysian Equities. The answer is simple, it’s one of the cheapest in the world right now.

Whilst every stock market in the world posted record gains (even Japan, whose markets have finally left a 30 year stagflation), the Malaysian stock market have actually fallen in the second half of 2017, before gaining an incredible 5.8% in just 23 days, and even then, it is still 2/3 behind the gains posted by the Nasdaq.

The stock market is one of the places, where the law of economics do not work. In the real world, the cheaper the product (while value stays the same), the higher the demand. In the stock market however, the higher the price, the higher the demand!

This is largely driven due to, greed, the fear of missing out, and the inability to tune out the knowledge that someone else is making more money than you. God forbid it’s a neighbour, relative, colleague, classmate or family member!

There’s something about our human nature, where, if we know someone is doing better than us, it turns into special kind of hell for us. And as your fund manager, I too am human and subject to these feelings, but I think (or at least would like to) that I’m especially adept at controlling this part of our nature. Let me elaborate how.


Our investment philosophy

As this is the first letter of the fund, I think it is important that I reiterate the investment philosophy of this fund, so that everyone is up to speed.

This fund (I actually have not even thought of a name yet) is a pure value, long term only fund, managed with the intention of earning good absolute returns regardless of how any particular financial market performs.

The philosophy is implemented with a bottom-up value investment strategy whereby we hold only those securities that are significantly undervalued and hold cash when we cannot find better alternatives.

An investment philosophy such as ours will theoretically lag during a bull (rapidly rising) market, but outperform a bear (lacklustre or declining) market.

So what are our principles?
 

  1. Shares are not pieces of papers with prices that change every second, but fractional shares of a business.

    For many people, the stock market is a casino, where one has the opportunity to buy a piece of paper (or number on a screen) in the hopes that someone down the line will be willing to pay more for it, next month, next week or even the next 5 minutes.

    And this is especially encouraged by your brokers who earn RM 8 + 0.12% of the transaction value, PER TRANSACTION. And given the advent of the internet, it becomes every so tempting to watch the price of the shares fluctuate every second, and one can even watch the value of ones holdings rise or fall a few hundred or a few thousand every few minutes.

    Naturally, this will give rise to an incredible urge to try and make money off these fluctuations. To buy when the price is at the bottom, and sell when the price is at the top. And this leads many people learning how to read the “tea leaves” of the stock market, via “technical analysis” or in layman terms, predicting the movement of prices via observing the patterns of a chart, in hope of finding an inefficiency, or even via the prediction of trends.

    Except, the stock market is a dynamic environment. It conforms to its contestants and their actions. Whatever inefficiency that has been found, will no longer be effective once enough people know about it. This means whatever you knew about the patterns become obsolete in just a few weeks and you now need to find a new one.

    Like Sisyphus, they are cursed to endlessly roll the immense boulder up the hill, only for it fall again and again.

    For example, on the 7th of December, Sapura Energy fell 24.5 sen or 20.2% to 96.5 sen per share, and naturally, quite a few people started to buy, relying on their chart knowledge that there should be a technical rebound in price, possibly enabling them to earn a profit.

    Except it continued to fall 30 sen or another 31.2% over the next few days to low of 66.5 sen. For those who purchased this with the maximum margin (loan) of 3 times, they would have gotten margin called and lost it all. To top it off, as they would have been forced to sell, just before a rebound in price occurred on the 5th of January, with the share price gaining 9.5 cent of 13.3%.

    So what’s the alternative?

    The alternative is to take an owners view, to look at shares as fractional ownership of a business. And therefore evaluate the purchase of our shares in much the same way we would evaluate a business for acquisition in its entirety.

    The main preference, would of course be a business in a fantastic industry, with a long-term competitive advantage (or “Competitive Moat”), operated by honest and competent people and most importantly available at a fair or very attractive price.

    During our project to read 5 years’ worth of annual reports for all 926 companies listed in the KLSE, we have found one, and it also happened to be available at a fair price. The other will of course be the one and only Public Bank (Do note a few more have since been found, but prices are not as attractive).

    The company’s name is XXXXX. In brief, it is the best in class provider of a service in Malaysia (offering 7-10x more value than their competitors), and they do it at the cheapest price. This business is also backed by a moat that ensures that it stays in that position. It is currently the largest holding of the fund at 28%.

    However, companies like XXXX don’t come often, and when they do, they are often very expensive, making it a bad investment. AMAZON for example, sells at a stratospheric 275 P/E, meaning, if one were to purchase it now, it would require 275 years in order to earn back the money you paid for it. Looking back to the beginning of modern history, I cannot even think of a single company founded 275 years ago that still exist today.

    The alternative, will be for us to invest in businesses that are in good (not fantastic) industries, managed by good people, and available at a very attractive price, such as Latitude, which if paid the current price now, would make it back in less than 2 and a half years.

    Or even business that are backed by incredible assets (such as land or property), such as Plenitude, Daiman or Oriental Berhad whose market prices equate to only 15-25% of the revalued net asset value, it’s like paying RM150,000 for a house in Subang worth RM650,000. How do these shares obtain such low prices? It’s simple, the price is low.

    If the price was high, people would have been buying it every day. Remember what I said about laws of economics being wonky in the stock market.

    At the end of the day, investments in stocks, is the long term arbitrage between the price and the intrinsic value of the stock. In the long term, prices will rise or fall to fair value. A simple case would be Hengyuan, it fell from RM9 in 2013 to RM2 in 2016. In 2017, it rose an incredible 800% to RM19.

    RM 1 cannot sell for RM0.5 forever, in the short term, it may even fall to RM0.1 (in which case, we should buy more). But in the long term, it should rise to somewhere near RM1.

    As Howard Marks always said, to succeed in investing you just need 3 things.

    1)       The ability to estimate the intrinsic value of an investment.
    2)       The ability to hold and buy more as prices fall.
    3)       To be right. (Which leads us to our next two principles).

     
  2. To employ zero leverage.

    Leverage essentially means the use of borrowed money from the bank to purchase stocks.

    As the brokerages love to say, it allows one to super charge ones earnings (as long as you pay 5% interest, and a much higher transaction fee of RM24+0.15% of the transactions value per transaction).

    They often also conveniently forget to that it magnifies your losses. Often a brokerage will allow one to leverage up to 2 times your capital.

    This means a mere 10% gain, would enable you to make a 30% return. Conversely, it also means that drop higher than 33% would case you to go bankrupt.

    During the 2007-2009 crises, even the stock of the best managed and most trusted company in the world, Berkshire Hathaway (run by the one and only Warren Buffet), had the price of its shares fall almost 53% from USD148,220 per share to USD 73,195 per share. It now sells at USD300,000 per share. Google for example, fell from USD373 per share to USD131 per share, it now sells for USD1,111.

    Even the people who were only 1 times leveraged would have lost it all during the fall, and would have therefore missed out on the subsequent gains as they were forced to sell off their holdings previously.

    Like life, in investing, it is key that one always remembers the 6 foot tall man who drowned crossing a river 5 feet deep on average. It is not enough to survive on average, one must also survive the lows of investing and life.

    And as long as you do, given a long enough time and continuous improvement in decision making, you should end up doing very well for yourself.

    As the fund manager, I expect to maintain my long term equity positions, and may not sell the Fund’s investments even in times of extreme market volatility in the face of constant bad news, when general economic sentiment is depressed and negative, even if to the extreme.

    Even if this takes place over prolonged or extended periods of time; as long as the I, as the fund manager is of the view that the underlying business fundamentals of these investments have not changed.

    And only by employing zero leverage, can this be done.

     
  3. Diversification.

    In this fund, we are not allowed to hold more than 30% of the fund (this may be reduced in the future), on a cost basis on a single investment. Why?

    At the end of the day, the real danger in life, is that you do not know, what you do not know.

    Warren Buffet have once said, “Diversification is protection against ignorance. It makes little sense if you know what you are doing.”

    And he is right. At this fund, the size of funds we allocate to a certain investment, correlates with our confidence in said investment, due to a deep understanding of the business and its value due to thorough research, coupled with a fantastic price.

    However, at the end of the day, it isn’t what you know that will kill you, but what you do not know. A certain concentration in your best investment is need to ensure superior returns, but a certain level of diversification is also needed to ensure that you survive in the event your thesis proves wrong (and statistically, this is inevitable, all you can do is limit your losses then).

     
  4. Long Term Only

    As I have said earlier, at the end of the day, investing is about the long term arbitrage between the price and the intrinsic value of an investment.

    There is a saying I strongly abide with. “Time is the friend of a good investment or business, and the enemy of a bad one”.

    As you can see in the cases shown above, such as Hengyuan or even the 2008 crisis. One can never really know how prices will move over the short term. Yes, some people have predicted the financial crisis, but how many have predicted it’s consistently?

    We believe that, given time and patience, as well as a value focused mind-set to buy businesses or investments at 50 cents on the dollar (sounds weird to say 50 sen on the ringgit, doesn’t it), we will be able to obtain the superior returns that we aim for.


Closing statements.

While I will continue to attempt to raise new capital, it will not be my policy to compromise the Fund’s current policies and principles to do so. You have all accepted the fund on its own terms, and first and foremost, it is my intention to protect your capital and enhance your returns.

And for some of you who are IOU holders (Principle Guaranteed, with XX% guaranteed interest “Highest FD rate in Malaysia” and 40% of return above XX%), the protection of your principle and minimum profit is guaranteed.

Be assured that I eat my own cooking and have my own skin in game. The vast majority of my liquid net worth (99%), aside from money set aside for modest living expenses, is in the fund.

If I compound my own investment in the Fund at a rate of 15% annually, excluding fees, for 50 years, I will have over RM130 million. If I achieve 20%, I would be a billionaire with RM1.09 billion.

This is how I think about your investment. It is also why I do not think in terms of monthly or quarterly snapshots of performance, although I do understand that after 5 years or so, you would expect to see a favourable trend. I intend to provide it.

The current holdings of the fund on a percentage basis as at prevailing market prices is as follows:
 

Equities

% Of Fund

X

1%

X

2%

X

2%

X

2%

X

3%

X

3%

X

5%

X

5%

X

6%

X

10%

X

22%

X

30%

Cash

8%

Total

100%


The fund maintains a high degree of concentration, with the top 3 holdings comprising 60% of the fund. Some of these stocks may be relatively illiquid. As a result, apparent short-term may be adversely or positively affected by otherwise normal fluctuations in portfolio holdings.

While it has not been my observation that the Fund experiences undue volatility on a daily basis, there can be no certainty of this trend continuing. I do not view volatility as being in any manner a measure of risk, and hence the fund is not managed to minimize volatility.

Please feel free to call me if I have not been clear, or if you need further clarification on the matters discussed above.

Sincerely
Jon Choivo

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Discussions
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teoct

What are the counters?

2018-01-22 15:49

brightsmart

do you really buy and sell as advertised?

or talk east do west

2018-01-22 16:46

brightsmart

a jot of jons starts with good intentions and then go astray somewhere along the line.

2018-01-22 16:53

Jon Choivo

I don't tell people what i buy or sell. =)

If its good, no need to promote.

2018-01-22 17:03

brightsmart

nevertheless you write well

but your approach will not make you a super investor....

to be superinvestor, you need to sailang and margin and all in.

2018-01-22 19:22

ttgipoh

U have a second level thinking

2018-01-22 19:35

Jon Choivo

You forget to take into account the superbankrupts. Haha

I don't need to be rich or a super investor tomorrow.

I know its just a matter of time for me to be rich, and an investor with a decent track record (super or not, that one let other people tell me).

I'm very conservative minded lah, not much of a gambler.

brightsmart nevertheless you write well

but your approach will not make you a super investor....

to be superinvestor, you need to sailang and margin and all in.
22/01/2018 19:22

2018-01-22 20:01

brightsmart

Post removed.Why?

2018-01-23 22:22

TheContrarian

Investing in the stock market is a means to achieve an objective. When I first started, my objective was to buy a home and I achieved it within seven years. Now I am investing for my retirement fund.

2018-01-23 22:30

cheoky

mohnish pabrai said to be rich, compound interest rate & length of the runway. but if you are not born rich, and you are rich only when you are like 60years old. what is the use of money then? so need to combine both, find a middle path. sometime aggressiveness and margin might be a means to increase that compound interest rate. but if unlucky.... no black and white answer le.

2018-01-23 22:37

Jon Choivo

This is true, my new year goal is to save less money ahaha.

cheoky mohnish pabrai said to be rich, compound interest rate & length of the runway. but if you are not born rich, and you are rich only when you are like 60years old. what is the use of money then? so need to combine both, find a middle path. sometime aggressiveness and margin might be a means to increase that compound interest rate. but if unlucky.... no black and white answer le
23/01/2018 22:37

2018-01-24 23:58

CharlesT

I pressume yr return is less than 15% last year...no bad is better than calvin but still in bottom 50

2018-01-29 07:17

Jon Choivo

Barely above 15. It would have been ~20% if not for my gross misjudgment and inexperience on several stocks.

If i can get 15-20% per annum for 50 years, i and my investors will very happy. In any event, records done during bull periods don't mean much. Its how you do during recession that counts.



CharlesT I pressume yr return is less than 15% last year...no bad is better than calvin but still in bottom 50
29/01/2018 07:17

2018-01-29 17:12

CharlesT

In any event, records done during bull periods don't mean much. Its how you do during recession that counts.

Yeap, during bull mkt even donkey also can make 15%...

2018-01-30 15:48

Jon Choivo

I too, would like to discover if im a donkey that can talk and write well. Or a good or maybe even great investor.

Time will tell. I promised myself i will find out. I give myself a minimum of 10 years. If i cant beat the KLSE by 10% CAGR over that time period. Maybe i'm just not that good.


CharlesT In any event, records done during bull periods don't mean much. Its how you do during recession that counts.

Yeap, during bull mkt even donkey also can make 15%...
30/01/2018 15:48

2018-03-07 22:48

CharlesT

If u r able to post the same result in 2018 then at least u r ok

2018-03-07 22:53

CharlesT

Nothing to shout abt 15% return in 2017...really

2018-03-07 22:54

CharlesT

Hows yr return so far this year? -15%?

2018-03-23 13:56

Jon Choivo

Negative 12%. :)

Its still ahead of ACE drop of 18% and Smallcap drop of 15%. But it still does not feel good.

However, i know all my stuff meet my investment criteria, have good value to begin with and is cheap.

In addition i am unleveraged, with excess cash to put in if it drops further or pay back investors who cannot stand a bear market.

So all these give me give me optimism for the years ahead.

Just waiting for elections, as i have a feeling PR will win, and if they do, the first few weeks will have alot of discounts.

Ill go on 25-40% margin if my portfolio drops more than 30% this year.

CharlesT Hows yr return so far this year? -15%?
23/03/2018 13:56

2018-03-23 14:28

CharlesT

Mkt bad most people will lose money lah
Mkt good (2017) most people will make money lah

It's time to test yr real Kung Fu when mkt is bad

2018-03-23 18:06

hollandking

2017 good???

2018-03-23 18:07

qqq3

yes, 2017 was a good year for me.

2018-03-23 18:08

CharlesT

Basing on I3 stock contest 2017, in general most people made money

2018-03-23 18:09

hollandking

last year most counter drop almost everyday, unless u r gain is from specific counters, if u open more counters ,the great your chances of making losses.

2018-03-23 18:12

hollandking

not everday, but the impression is something like that

2018-03-23 18:12

CharlesT

FH very good lah...but SH no good loh

2018-03-23 18:13

hollandking

i learn my lesson last year, dont open so many counters but focus on specific counter, the more u open, the greater your risk. Be focus,hit, dont fall in love with stocks, cut win.

2018-03-23 18:15

hollandking

another thing, keep out of ipo

2018-03-23 18:16

CharlesT

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/stock_pick_2017/142745.jsp

There is another one with more participants..but couldnt find the link anymore

2018-03-23 18:16

hollandking

thanks, i'll analyze their pick, check why they choose those counters and what is the nature of the counters

2018-03-23 18:19

Jon Choivo

But if they up, would your philosophy be buy more counters to diversify?

Haha

Posted by hollandking > Mar 23, 2018 06:12 PM | Report Abuse

last year most counter drop almost everyday, unless u r gain is from specific counters, if u open more counters ,the great your chances of making losses.


Just hold only. No need think so much. Make sure you collect cash, so if really drop till stupid, can buy.

Posted by CharlesT > Mar 23, 2018 06:06 PM | Report Abuse

Mkt bad most people will lose money lah
Mkt good (2017) most people will make money lah

It's time to test yr real Kung Fu when mkt is bad

2018-03-23 18:26

qqq3

portfolio design is the skill and knowledge of the designer and the risk appetite of the customer.

2018-03-23 18:30

Jon Choivo

I think this is for traders.

I dont really care for designing the portfolio. Maybe its cause im not that good, and it does not really matter to me.

I just focus on finding good co. And make sure my exposure is large, but not too large. Ie max exposure is 25%.

Maybe when i have like a few million, can now consider structuring it to have wide exposure industry wise.


Posted by qqq3 > Mar 23, 2018 06:30 PM | Report Abuse

portfolio design is the skill and knowledge of the designer and the risk appetite of the customer.

2018-03-23 18:31

hollandking

can learn something from their stockpicks

2018-03-23 18:35

soojinhou

"In any event, records done during bull periods don't mean much. Its how you do during recession that counts." Well said, all the best for 2018.

2018-03-23 18:35

qqq3

osted by Jon Choivo > Mar 23, 2018 06:31 PM | Report Abuse

I just focus on finding good co.
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that is what everybody claims.....especially those not from the financial industry and those not trained by CFA.

2018-03-23 18:37

qqq3

Post removed.Why?

2018-03-23 18:41

qqq3

Post removed.Why?

2018-03-23 19:24

Jon Choivo

qqq3,

I am taking the CFA.

Im not saying you should be constructing portfolio properly for risk management purposes. I'm saying, unless you have a large enough amount of money, and access to so many asset classes. As well as knowledge in so many.

You're probably wasting your time and money.

2018-03-23 19:40

hollandking

down trend market, , short loh, sure make money one,

2018-03-23 19:42

Jon Choivo

Then it shoot up, and you lose money hahaha

2018-03-23 19:44

qqq3

share is one asset class...but we can also find many different characteristics within shares.

2018-03-23 19:46

qqq3

Post removed.Why?

2018-03-23 19:47

Jon Choivo

In a crisis, correlation goes to 1. Every single asset class drop whether or not it is related.

So much for all that portfolio construction. In Malaysia, portfolio construction for retailers is largely a waste of time. Just sendiri be smart, dont expose yourself too much to one stock or industry.

It is people with CFA's who caused the financial systems to crash in 2008. Not OTB types.

2018-03-23 19:51

hollandking

bursa a very special and diff market,

2018-03-23 19:52

Jon Choivo

Yeah, you cant short, no options, no derivatives. No bonds on the market, no commodities etc.

Construct what portfolio lol.

Use common sense can d.

2018-03-23 19:53

3iii

I wish you success in your undertaking.

Maybe you can also share with the audience the fees involved in this fund of yours.

Thks.

2018-03-23 19:58

3iii

>>>>The main preference, would of course be a business in a fantastic industry, with a long-term competitive advantage (or “Competitive Moat”), operated by honest and competent people and most importantly available at a fair or very attractive price.>>>>>


These are also the four tenets of Buffett and Munger in their selection of stocks to invest.



>>>>>During our project to read 5 years’ worth of annual reports for all 926 companies listed in the KLSE, we have found one, and it also happened to be available at a fair price. The other will of course be the one and only Public Bank (Do note a few more have since been found, but prices are not as attractive).<<<<


Staying within one's circle of competence is a great discipline. I too have screened through the stocks in the KLSE and found only about 20 stocks that fall into the category of great companies. Applying a stricter requirement, reduces these to only a few. Often, as you mentioned, these stocks are trading at fair to high prices.

2018-03-23 20:03

Jon Choivo

This is likely to be my structure for the next 5 years, until i have a silver of a track record. Good record, can start a proper fund. Bad record, manage my own money.


2 options.

1) I guarantee your capital plus the highest prevailing FD rate in Malaysia, 3,5 to 10 year lock. If you want put alot, a long ass lock. 60% above that FD rate is mine, 40% is yours. I wont take more than 50% of my own equity as i dont want to over leverage.


2) No profit. Win or lose you keep. Ill just manage your account.

2018-03-27 21:37

ProfitSonar

Posted by 3iii > Mar 23, 2018 08:03 PM | Report Abuse

>>>Staying within one's circle of competence is a great discipline. I too have screened through the stocks in the KLSE and found only about 20 stocks that fall into the category of great companies. Applying a stricter requirement, reduces these to only a few. Often, as you mentioned, these stocks are trading at fair to high prices.<<<

How do you screen these stocks?? by reading manually or use some sort of screener??

2018-03-29 01:47

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