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stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 16:55 | Report Abuse

Cut loss if SMA below 200.

By then, good shares become extremely under valued.

Time to cut loss?

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-04-04 17:00 | Report Abuse

I follow TA comes first, FA comes second.
Hence cut loss is a must. I want up trending stock only. It is my rule.

SALAM

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Posted by SALAM > 2016-04-04 17:12 | Report Abuse

This sifu said many times that he strongly believed and still believes that USD won't go below RM3.80. So just hold on!!!

GODinvest

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Posted by GODinvest > 2016-04-04 17:14 | Report Abuse

Now export stock is a very good choice to buy because price areadly fell many 。very safe , buy export stock and keep ! 反向投资Who also know but when price really fall down no one dare to buy and keep thinking can buy more low , finally loss chance to buy!!!no one dare to buy , so buy! Scare apa kuku , just buy!

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 17:15 | Report Abuse

nobodyy buys every shares above sma 200

therefore nobody should sell every shres below sma 200.


KLSE don't go around putting a stamp on a share below sma 200 and says you are dead.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 17:34 | Report Abuse

from top to below sma 200, a lot of the shares would have lost 20 to 50% already.

if these were well chosen shares, it is high time to buy more, not cut loss. .......


unless these are rubbish and bankrupt shares to start with.

SALAM

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Posted by SALAM > 2016-04-04 18:11 | Report Abuse

Stockmanmy, u are more FA realistic than OTB.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 18:49 | Report Abuse

lots of future jewels come from shares currently below sma 200.

always have been, always will be.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 18:54 | Report Abuse

OTB


why not hunt amongst shares down already.

why only hunt amongst shares up a few months already ( by definition this is what above sma 200 means ).

lux88

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Posted by lux88 > 2016-04-04 18:58 | Report Abuse

OTB, your exporter related stock more than half drop below 200d sma, do you admit it?

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-04-04 18:58 | Report Abuse

No right or wrong, follow the system suit you best.
I follow my system and strategy, I did very well. Hence I do not wish to change my strategy.
I will cut loss when the price is below 200 days SMA. I feel very confident in this rule.
Personally, I had cut loss on many stocks to swap to other better stocks. I will not keep down trending stocks.

I will buy back when the price crosses above 200 days SMA again if FA is still good.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 18:58 | Report Abuse

OTB wants performance
don't care about risk

performance belongs to OTB
risk belongs to customers.

conflict of interest every customer should take into account.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-04-04 19:01 | Report Abuse

No personally attack.

You want to talk about strategy, I am willing to discuss.

If not, sorry.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 19:01 | Report Abuse

OTB strategy results in buying high, selling low.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 19:04 | Report Abuse

there is a conflict of interest when risk belongs to customers,
performance belongs to OTB.

lux88

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Posted by lux88 > 2016-04-04 19:07 | Report Abuse

OTB, your exporter related stock more than half drop below 200d sma, do you admit it?

OTB not dare answer?

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-04-04 19:11 | Report Abuse

I do not even care, drop below 200 days SMA I just cut loss.

No point to have personal attack.

tonylim

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Posted by tonylim > 2016-04-04 19:12 | Report Abuse

Otb already replied what you u guys want.
Ask him to admit?

What will the admission mean to you

Icon8888

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-04-04 19:13 | Report Abuse

Desa jealous of OTB's closed relationship with KYY so he attacked OTB

Posted by stockmanmy > Apr 4, 2016 07:04 PM | Report Abuse

there is a conflict of interest when risk belongs to customers,
performance belongs to OTB.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 19:14 | Report Abuse

the price to pay for performance is risk

the reward for risk taking is performance.

if customers only measure performance, OTB will continue to give you the highest risk shares.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-04-04 19:17 | Report Abuse

Mr Koon is very happy with my performance, I made a lot of money for him. He praised me in every email, Desa is also on copy.

Icon8888, no reason he wants to attack me. I cannot understand.

Icon8888

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-04-04 19:20 | Report Abuse

stockmanmy is Desa

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 19:23 | Report Abuse

advisers who don't calculate risks or fluctuations of shares recommended are only doing everybody more harm than good.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-04-04 19:25 | Report Abuse

if customers only measure performance, OTB will continue to give you the highest risk shares.

Ans : PER < 10, EV/EBIT < 8, Margin of safety > 30%. Both TA and FA are good. What risk ?

I will talk to Mr Koon about this person. I will not give him any copy of my write up. Mr Koon always said that I am a kiasi and kiasu investor.

klee

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Posted by klee > 2016-04-04 19:25 | Report Abuse

So you want OTB to spoonfeed you..
Posted by stockmanmy > Apr 4, 2016 07:23 PM | Report Abuse

advisers who don't calculate risks or fluctuations of shares recommended are only doing everybody more harm than good.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 19:25 | Report Abuse

licenced advisors are trained to calculate returns per unit of risk.

unlicenced advisers only interested in performance.

klee

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Posted by klee > 2016-04-04 19:27 | Report Abuse

Risk changes every minute in stock markets,so you want me to spoonfeed you too.

Icon8888

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-04-04 19:28 | Report Abuse

I have faith in OTB

he will rebounce

Icon8888

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-04-04 19:29 | Report Abuse

pot call kettle black. Desa's stock picks are KESM, Chin Well, etc... all masuk long kang

Posted by stockmanmy > Apr 4, 2016 07:25 PM | Report Abuse

licenced advisors are trained to calculate returns per unit of risk.

unlicenced advisers only interested in performance.

klee

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Posted by klee > 2016-04-04 19:31 | Report Abuse

I am damn good myself,and i say OTB is established and good.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-04-04 19:35 | Report Abuse

Desa, please check with Mr Koon, what is my ROI in his portfolio in last 6 months ? Mr Koon was surprised when he read my report dated 31/3/2016.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 19:36 | Report Abuse

licensed advisers have many tools they use to calculate performance per unit of risk.

Icon8888

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-04-04 19:38 | Report Abuse

OTB be very very careful of this Desa

he will harm you

kick him out

klee

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Posted by klee > 2016-04-04 19:41 |

Post removed.Why?

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-04-04 19:47 | Report Abuse

Icon8888,

Noted.
Thank you.
Ooi

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-04-04 19:50 |

Post removed.Why?

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 20:21 | Report Abuse

A licenced adviser is trained in the tools for calculating performance per unit of risk., resulting in a diversified portfolio to minimise risk

An unlicensed advisor has privatised performance and socialised risk., resulting in a focused portfolio to maximise performance.

Ven Felix

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Posted by Ven Felix > 2016-04-04 20:25 | Report Abuse

Almost Throw out..with Desa's comments.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 20:28 | Report Abuse

Analysts, fund managers and remisiers all have different licenses ......


it is not what people think.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 20:30 | Report Abuse

I am not going to report to the authorities of any illegal activities.

But people better check the laws properly ..........

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 20:37 | Report Abuse

The law is not about performance.


The law is about who can do what.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 20:39 | Report Abuse

But I think it is illegal for remisiers to collect subscription fees for investment advise.

Ven Felix

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Posted by Ven Felix > 2016-04-04 20:40 | Report Abuse

Desa, why u flag me and u yourself ? funny..

Ven Felix

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Posted by Ven Felix > 2016-04-04 20:41 | Report Abuse

Need Klee's Hand here :

Posted by klee > Apr 4, 2016 07:41 PM | Report Abuse

Stocknanny nag non stop wakakaka.Go walk the dog la,it needs to shit now.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 20:41 | Report Abuse

Somebody did the flagging.


not me.


I write about the laws.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 20:43 | Report Abuse

people take the law for granted......until they get into trouble.

kk123

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Posted by kk123 > 2016-04-04 20:43 | Report Abuse

Everyone knows that otb is a shameless old man..he lost like 50% but can still be shameless..
I am not surprised that he lost so much and shamelessly continue to charge his subscribers ..
Otb is also good at telling lies to make money..
so my advice to those newbies- dont fall into the old geezer trick ... :)

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 20:44 | Report Abuse

risk and reward come together.

higher the performance means the higher the risks taken already.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-04-04 20:46 | Report Abuse

its my own money and I buy according to my own risk tolerance.



Posted by Icon8888 > Apr 4, 2016 07:29 PM | Report Abuse

pot call kettle black. Desa's stock picks are KESM, Chin Well, etc... all masuk long kang

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-04-04 20:49 |

Post removed.Why?

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