Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-08-31 23:19 | Report Abuse

30% increase is based on ex- price. I will follow KLSE rules.

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:21 | Report Abuse

OTB can I get ur confirmation then tha ref price Huayang will be ex price?

Posted by tonylim > 2013-08-31 23:23 | Report Abuse

Ada

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:23 | Report Abuse

Don't worry Hafiz, if no bonus then we go with 2.87

Posted by inwest88 > 2013-08-31 23:23 | Report Abuse

Hafiz, Saturn has categorically that he's not taking part in KW"s challenge but just a contest with you and thus the apportionment does not arise. Am I correct Saturn. However if you were to change your mind this will be your apportionment on a equally shared basis.

Tropican 20,500 units at 1.64
Hua Yang 11,500 units at 2.87
E&O 16,800 units at 1.97

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-08-31 23:24 | Report Abuse

Assume before ex price is 3.oo, bonus issue is 1 for 3. Ex bonus = 3.00 *3/4 = 2.25.

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:25 | Report Abuse

Inwest note the ref price for Huayang is base on bonus dilution price.....if no bonus then 2.87 is accepted by me.

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-08-31 23:26 | Report Abuse

I will take care on bonus, please agree.

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:27 | Report Abuse

OTB pls be clear in ur example.....becoz Hafiz is not clear.....2.25 will be the ref price base on ur example right?

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-08-31 23:29 | Report Abuse

Please trust me, I want to be fair on both sides. I will follow KLSE rules.
Inwest88, please do not complicate the issue again. I know what to do.

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:29 | Report Abuse

Hafiz, as I said I will honor the 2.87 if no bonus.....why are u so possess ........

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:31 | Report Abuse

U mean u do not want to agree b4 and start to argue afterwards....?cangkul pls be more far sighted.....I know u are not very well verse with a lot of thing spoken here.....leave alone questions to be ask....

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:32 | Report Abuse

Either that or u are hoping to get put the back door.....which ever it is.....u will not get much from text book.....

Posted by inwest88 > 2013-08-31 23:33 | Report Abuse

OTB, where did I complicate the issue. The rules are so clear.Please advise. I did mention that if there is any bonus, the price will be adjusted accordingly. Anyway I am out of this. You handle. Thank you.

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-08-31 23:34 | Report Abuse

1. Period of competition - 2nd September to 31st December
2. Reference prices based as follows:- Closing prices on 31st December 2013
3. Each person to select 3 stocks.
4. In the event that that price of a particular share achieve 30% ROI before 31st December, it shall be treated as disposed. Any further rise in the share price will not be considered. The achievement will be recognized at the day's closing price.
5. The share price will be adjusted accordingly should there be any bonus, rights, warrants and dividends issued during the contest period. (Mr. TB Ooi will compute the adjustment).
6. The winner will be determined based on the combined percentage ROI of the stocks selected if item 4 is not valid.
7. The umpire for this direct competition is Mr. KW Tan

Stock Picks
1. Hafiz - Tropicana ( ref price 1.64 30% is 2.13 )
Saturn - Favco ( ref price 2.88. 30% is 3.74 )

2. Hafiz - Gtronic ( ref 2.63 30% is 3.42 )
Saturn - E&O ( ref 1.97. 30% is 2.56 )

3. Hafiz - SK Petro ( ref 3.59 30% is 4.67 )
Saturn - Hua Yang ( ref 2.87 30% is 3.73 )

All agreed. Competition is on. Thank you and have fun.

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:34 | Report Abuse

OTB pls answer the question based on the example u gave ...is it 2.25 as ref.....I undertand the price later will be base on the avg closing

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-08-31 23:35 | Report Abuse

Yes. you are right. I will follow KLSE rule. Fair to both sides.

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:35 | Report Abuse

I just want that to be properly noted because cangkul does not understand General Meeting and outcome

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:37 | Report Abuse

Hafiz u reading? U want to argue when it is called....or u want to agree before any incidental.....I knew I was talking to a stick...

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:39 | Report Abuse

Ur focus is on the price not the info of bonus or not.....the rest agreed will just be carried out upon agreed and upon bonus call only....so don't sound possess and dumb when questioning.....

Posted by inwest88 > 2013-08-31 23:40 | Report Abuse

Hafiz and Saturn, I have come in to help and did my part in setting up the rules (I have 30 over years of experience in this area). Now that it's settled, I leave it to OTB and KW Tan to take over. lest I shall be blamed for complicating the issue further. Nevertheless I look forward to see who is the winner at the end of the year. Good luck to you both.

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:41 | Report Abuse

Why do u need to know......rules are made without knowing outcome right?

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:42 | Report Abuse

What complicating......cangkul is a cangkul.....

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-08-31 23:42 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:44 | Report Abuse

OTB tq...without changing anything as below


Posted by Saturn > Aug 31, 2013 11:34 PM | Report Abuse X

OTB pls answer the question based on the example u gave ...is it 2.25 as ref.....I undertand the price later will be base on the avg closing


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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > Aug 31, 2013 11:35 PM | Report Abuse

Yes. you are right. I will follow KLSE rule. Fair to both sides.

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:46 | Report Abuse

Cangkul....u r an amateur .....go back learn from info here....and not text book only...at 30 spend more time learning fundamentals.....like GDv before making sweeping statements and questioning why Mah sing is not RM 3

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:47 | Report Abuse

See OTB what I mean......I don't see any apologies but blind man cangkul seem to see one....

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:48 | Report Abuse

U sure u see him to be fit for competition??

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-08-31 23:50 | Report Abuse

Inwest88,

I am sorry, do not be so sensitive. Please help Mr Tan. I know you are very capable. Please help.
Thank you.
Ooi

Posted by inwest88 > 2013-08-31 23:50 | Report Abuse

Hafiz and Saturn, I do not agree with OTB's statement as follows:-

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > Aug 31, 2013 11:14 PM | Report Abuse

The achievement will be recognized during the day and not necessarily at the day's closing.
Please note it is the closing price. Daily high is not counted.

Take for example, favco. If it touches 3.74 during the day, it has actually achieved 30% ROI. So Bingo ! But then at the closing it dropped to 3.60 and probably market conditions do not permit it to go back to 3.74 by 31st December, so how. Bear in mind that the 30% ROI is actually achieved. It's REAL.

I leave it to you two to agree since it's a direct challenge between the two of you.

Posted by inwest88 > 2013-08-31 23:51 | Report Abuse

I am signing off you. good night to everyone.

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:51 | Report Abuse

Cangkul oh cangkul.....Baliklah belajar Lebih.....

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:53 | Report Abuse

Inwest the rules apply to both its fair.......it has to be a peg price....

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:55 | Report Abuse

So Cangkul, are u able to tell future again.......if the world ppl work like u...we will all die of starvation....

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-08-31 23:55 | Report Abuse

Inwest88,

Initial agreement is based on closing price. Day high can be manipulated or can be caused by mistake. Closing is more accurate. Hope i explain.
Thank you.

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:57 | Report Abuse

It's sad for someone to invest base on announce info and not take precaution.....with info in hand......as Chinese say " die also don't know what happen"

Posted by Saturn > 2013-08-31 23:59 | Report Abuse

Btw you still owe me GDV FOR mah sing for your claim it should be rm 3 kakakaka

Posted by Saturn > 2013-09-01 00:06 | Report Abuse

When going fishing, it's the hook and the bait to catch the fish, but the fool is asking about his 2by4

Posted by Saturn > 2013-09-01 00:08 | Report Abuse

Read about fishing....sounds like some one......Kakakaka billions....another sweeping statement.....

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-09-01 00:09 | Report Abuse

Dear Mr Tan and inwest88,

Please take 100k and shared equally on 3 stocks. Please set up their portfolio.

Thank you.
Ooi

Rules :

1. Period of competition - 2nd September to 31st December
2. Reference prices based as follows:- Closing prices on 31st December 2013
3. Each person to select 3 stocks.
4. In the event that that price of a particular share achieve 30% ROI before 31st December, it shall be treated as disposed. Any further rise in the share price will not be considered. The achievement will be recognized at the day's closing price.
5. The share price will be adjusted accordingly should there be any bonus, rights, warrants and dividends issued during the contest period. (Mr. TB Ooi will compute the adjustment).
6. The winner will be determined based on the combined percentage ROI of the stocks selected if item 4 is not valid.
7. The umpire for this direct competition is Mr. KW Tan

Stock Picks
1. Hafiz - Tropicana ( ref price 1.64 30% is 2.13 )
Saturn - Favco ( ref price 2.88. 30% is 3.74 )

2. Hafiz - Gtronic ( ref 2.63 30% is 3.42 )
Saturn - E&O ( ref 1.97. 30% is 2.56 )

3. Hafiz - SK Petro ( ref 3.59 30% is 4.67 )
Saturn - Hua Yang ( ref 2.87 30% is 3.73 )

All agreed. Competition is on. Thank you and have fun.

Posted by Saturn > 2013-09-01 00:12 | Report Abuse

Hahahaha another cut and paste and TP......

Posted by Saturn > 2013-09-01 00:17 | Report Abuse

They have one lower acreage amongst the prominent player....and u are still wondering....they may be one of the first in Medini but look at red soil around it.....no billing and conversion there....tell me where are they prominent for conversion....

Posted by Saturn > 2013-09-01 00:22 | Report Abuse

As is east spring and Mellon has move some of their funds out....u sure.....what is the next conversion for the GDV...?

Posted by Saturn > 2013-09-01 00:24 | Report Abuse

Read also the pick from the drain Tropicana ....find out more before u continue to talk....where are they what conversion and asset value.....then check again to confirm....it took u half a day to find out nothing.....hahahaha.....those are info in the net.....what is their total acreage?

Posted by Saturn > 2013-09-01 00:27 | Report Abuse

Remember my joke on fishing....there u go again...that info is a given...land scarcity...u must be joking to tell someone that

Posted by Saturn > 2013-09-01 00:29 | Report Abuse

Why are Singaporean buying into Iskandar, ? What is the company that was form for the exchange with the Goverment of Singapore and what is the exchange......if u don't know that, pls don't bring a knife to a gun fight.....that is basic 101 for property investor....not farmers....kakakaka

Posted by Saturn > 2013-09-01 00:35 | Report Abuse

Oh no...have to google for information.....common Cangkul u are wondering with a thought that Mah sing should be above 3 but u do not know the completion....or the PE at 10 and the support of All the book value and Cashflow and sales against the price does not indicate a buy at this point.......u are a joke....

Posted by Saturn > 2013-09-01 00:38 | Report Abuse

Don't change subject pls...what indicator or projects are u base on for you to value above 3......pls don't tell me sales target.....everybody have sales target.....

Posted by Saturn > 2013-09-01 00:41 | Report Abuse

Common, u talk property when u know nuts of the impending and the competition.......talk about Singapore and buyer from Singapore which u brought up and u don't even know the exchange with the Singapore Goverment....and the company set up for the JV between Singapore and Malaysia...?.
All u know is a sweeping statement of land scarcity in Singapore????......u are the male version of a bimbo.....no offense....kakakakaka

Posted by Saturn > 2013-09-01 00:43 | Report Abuse

Silence ......know nuts right...google not fast enough? .......another half day for u to compile the information..lol