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103 comment(s). Last comment by tingangap1 2017-07-28 08:27

j450n

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Posted by j450n > 2017-07-26 13:20 | Report Abuse

duit in trade we win some we lose some. cheers bro

connie

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Posted by connie > 2017-07-26 15:31 | Report Abuse

duit ... wud like to share these points with newbies who aspire to be traders and not followers :-
1) do not dabble with high-risk warrants; eg hsi
2) do not mess with counters with lots of controversies; eg fgv
3) do not buy when QR is just around the corner (any bad surprise u may not even have chance to cut at your price !) .. traders are NOT investors who will ride the storm from one bad QR result
4) set cut loss at 1% of your capital to stay in the market long enuf to find your edge (if not any big loss will wipe u out in a blink of any eye)
5) based on point (4), do your position sizing correctly .. eg buy price RM1 and cut loss RM0.95 with capital of RM50K .. u can buy 10,000 shares cuz if u cut loss it will cost u RM500 which is 1% of initial cap of RM50K (note i did not include fees like brokerage / stamp duty / clearing)
6) read up on money management .. fully understand it before u even decide on your trading style (position / momentum / swing)
7) accept that all trading styles have pros and cons .. there is no holy grail
8) stick to your trading style and forget about a hot counter that does not meet your set-up criteria (u don't have to follow the herd)

Posted by Stanley Sim > 2017-07-26 16:44 | Report Abuse

Duit, if you are willing to admit your mistakes and recognize where you went wrong, Then I am sure you are on the right track to becoming a better trader & Investor.
All the best to you :)

abangadik

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Posted by abangadik > 2017-07-26 16:53 | Report Abuse

lolz...

Alex Foo

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Posted by Alex Foo > 2017-07-26 17:02 | Report Abuse

can publish a book? can sell oh.....

i got loss in fgv, but made back from sunnyz, actually i earn more from sz i calculate back lol haha

jiayou duit, itu accsoft also huat until no eye see....

for connie post,

add point

9) regularly attend lecture to refresh trading course =D

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-26 17:17 | Report Abuse

thanks connie for further points......

great

PlsGiveBonus

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Posted by PlsGiveBonus > 2017-07-26 17:25 | Report Abuse

Trading is good when it is going up
If trade like Cpteh who like to catch falling knife one need to have very big appetite for risk
Obviously no one else is better trader than Cpteh

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-26 17:29 | Report Abuse

Connie....

Can I raise my comment on your No.1,2 and 3.....

If we really want to skip all three(3) mean we are not taking risk in trading but away from the risk. One thing very concur with you is newbie gain no advantage to trade HSI........... Firmly agree on it.

limchimleong

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Posted by limchimleong > 2017-07-26 17:29 | Report Abuse

汤兄,kcchongnz应该还可以吧!

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-26 17:32 | Report Abuse

duit is another genuine investor... kaki kong kaki song

AdCool

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Posted by AdCool > 2017-07-26 17:34 | Report Abuse

I lost more than RM30k in FGV alone...Thanks to all the surprised and shocking financial scandals and management tussle. These, we can't analyze from the Financial Statement.

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-26 17:36 | Report Abuse

myongcc5,

Maybank OK ma.....

pang72

51,286 posts

Posted by pang72 > 2017-07-26 19:15 |

Post removed.Why?

Frank Soweto

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Posted by Frank Soweto > 2017-07-27 04:21 | Report Abuse

Good sharing bro - stock market is never easy - even for experienced trader like yourself oso kena sometimes let alone novice like me kena even teruk if I dun becarefool- tat is why I never trade as a trader but sometimes buy long term oso die temporary haha juz like Pantat from making to losing for the longest to finally making back again after upteen years but becoz good com can hold no need to cut kuku n oso enjoy masuk pocket divvy while bleeding :) butt if buy shit longkang like the General Lee's one the stink will still be there even 10 years from now. The important thing is to acknowledge the mistake n move on. I have no doubt u will recover back unlike those delusional bravehearts until today still being sodomised by the big bad General :( Like Charles said some people just like to be cucuk-ed haha

Frank Soweto

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Posted by Frank Soweto > 2017-07-27 04:25 | Report Abuse

opps solly I meant my Pantech haha

connie

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Posted by connie > 2017-07-27 09:38 | Report Abuse

duit .. traders are taking risks all the time cuz the best looking chart / setup may also fail !! but these risks are calculated and manageable aka beyond one's control (it's clearly written in one's trading plan) .. thus, why add on risks that one cannot control esp playing 2 and 3 ? eg buy in anticipation of a sterling QR but the opposite is released .. gap down the next morning with no chance to cut ... then a miserable rebound but not reaching the pre-determined cut loss level ... and finally consolidate for weeks / months at low price before further catalysts kick-in !


Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > Jul 26, 2017 05:29 PM | Report Abuse
Can I raise my comment on your No.1,2 and 3.....
If we really want to skip all three(3) mean we are not taking risk in trading but away from the risk. One thing very concur with you is newbie gain no advantage to trade HSI........... Firmly agree on it.

Posted by Pakcik Saham > 2017-07-27 10:16 | Report Abuse

Good sharing duit.. physiology/ emotion & follow plan your trade is important

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-27 10:18 | Report Abuse

Cheeeers all

serene168

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Posted by serene168 > 2017-07-27 11:08 | Report Abuse

Thanks for sharing.. duit, connie, rchi sifu.

Bon Bb

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Posted by Bon Bb > 2017-07-27 11:43 | Report Abuse

duit, i warn u har, u dun play delete delete har..i like the comment in this post especially our queen eh. let me finish reading first k.

by the way, good luck! i too hit by the off-trading hour movement tat day.

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-27 12:03 | Report Abuse

Bon.. I warn u af... Faster copy I must delete all.. Hahah

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-27 12:04 | Report Abuse

Bon.. Queen is my best fren ever. She always give me support when I fall down... We overcome all the berliku-liku together....

She is my No.1 lover now... Effective today

abangadik

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Posted by abangadik > 2017-07-27 12:33 | Report Abuse

Queen has always been my no.1 all along..you need to q at the back.. wakakaka

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-27 12:39 | Report Abuse

Ok abandaidk..

Since I m late comer. Queen will be my No.1.5 for now on..

Good?

abangadik

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Posted by abangadik > 2017-07-27 12:44 | Report Abuse

can still be your no.1 but problem is we are no.1xxx for her mar.. wakakaka

Alex Foo

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Posted by Alex Foo > 2017-07-27 12:45 | Report Abuse

haha....buy queue

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-27 12:50 | Report Abuse

Kekkeke

Abangadik..ao true

Nvm. We invest patience sikit.. Hahah

PlsGiveBonus

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Posted by PlsGiveBonus > 2017-07-27 13:00 | Report Abuse

It is not easy to trade
Given the amount of listed company today we have
We not only need to pick the right company we still need to buy at the right price
Only the house win
:)

Bon Bb

2,889 posts

Posted by Bon Bb > 2017-07-27 13:14 | Report Abuse

yea..con is always kind to everyone.

PlsGiveBonus

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Posted by PlsGiveBonus > 2017-07-27 14:13 | Report Abuse

Property don't have much diversification
It is also the reason why it is very easy to make money from it
We don't have thousands type of property to choose from we only have less than 10 of the them (condo apartment landed terrace commercial residential etc) and they all serve the same purpose. The odd to win is 100%
:)

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-27 14:23 | Report Abuse

temporary I will skip all property counters....

Posted by pengembaraalam > 2017-07-27 15:23 | Report Abuse

yup, its normal

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-27 15:25 | Report Abuse

so surprised....

write something no good also so many reader?????? not Supposed show off good performance baru banyak readers meh???? so confused

GGecko

1,937 posts

Posted by GGecko > 2017-07-27 15:33 | Report Abuse

it's your affable personality that attracts people la luit.. nice n real gentleman.. u c all those fights in other threads like GADANG this morning and also INSAS this afternoon?

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-27 15:35 | Report Abuse

GGecKo,

but I wrote bad thing and show bad performance ohh...... why U still think its attractive??? so confused more

GGecko

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Posted by GGecko > 2017-07-27 15:37 | Report Abuse

bcs u admit your mistakes n not a proud man, i repeat my statement earlier.. what can we learnt from the fight in the other two threads?: dont b proud & cocky, n stay humble.. u have these traits. & good for u, people like this

twoplus

376 posts

Posted by twoplus > 2017-07-27 15:41 | Report Abuse

sunzen how? duit don't Holland

connie

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Posted by connie > 2017-07-27 15:43 | Report Abuse

hehehe so duit is a cat that meows gently and softly ... not like a dog that either barks or bites :)

GGecko

1,937 posts

Posted by GGecko > 2017-07-27 15:45 | Report Abuse

ha ha u put it v nicely, i love it

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-27 15:45 | Report Abuse

Connie... thanks for ur participation... so much to learn from third party (auditor).....


I lose money till no energy ad... cant ego, cant emo and also cant bark liao...........

GGecko

1,937 posts

Posted by GGecko > 2017-07-27 15:46 | Report Abuse

ha ha n the sense of humour, weeeeeeee

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-27 15:48 | Report Abuse

GGecKo,

tell me which parts U like me the most.. I change... I must improve so U don't like me anymore......... can help??? no cost helping project,,.,. can consider?

GGecko

1,937 posts

Posted by GGecko > 2017-07-27 15:50 | Report Abuse

i just cant think of one, sorry, i think all well n good. to find n make friend, it's not easy. to create an enemy.. very easy; just go and slap him or her, becomes instant foe. or have a heated exchange of words on i3 forum..which part i like the most? honesty

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-27 15:59 | Report Abuse

GG....try ur best... at least find one... don't be like my duplicate ID sendiri praise sendiri only...... later my mail box penuh all shoot me again..... faster find one

GGecko

1,937 posts

Posted by GGecko > 2017-07-27 16:00 | Report Abuse

i think u post this question to connie better.. being a woman, she'll b a better valuer of oneself than mine.. ha ha

Posted by 稻田·* 片片绿青~粒粒芳香 > 2017-07-27 16:12 | Report Abuse

hahahahha...

for Connie... I must change to: Connie, U really cant find at least one good character about me????? How about I pay U RM250 u simply create one good point for me....

See....for connie.. the quest will change 360 degree to like this

connie

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Posted by connie > 2017-07-27 16:29 | Report Abuse

duit .. nobody is perfect !! i embrace all be it your weak points or strong points .. in short, i will always treasure our frenship come what may :) and i sincerely hope u feel the same towards me cuz i am no angel also ..

rchi

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Posted by rchi > 2017-07-27 18:26 | Report Abuse

connie dear,i think u spoil ur godson too much..hahaha...tat's y he so manja.

Posted by malaysiakuku > 2017-07-28 02:55 | Report Abuse

tak qualified jagi trader sebab terlalu ikut emosi....biar lambat melabur dan jangan kelam kabut untuk kerja keuntungan....buat kajian yang panjang lebar untuk tempoh 5 tahun....sebab saham adalah untuk mereka dapat menguasai structur ekonomi semasa dan permintaan/keperluan yang lebih memihak kepada laburan untuk jangka masa panjang...tak mustahil sebab aku pun pakai kaedah warren buffet...

king36

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Posted by king36 > 2017-07-28 05:54 | Report Abuse

I used to read your tread.
I'm also about 1 & half year into this hobby.
Sorry to read your story.
Its not end of the world.
Many fell and rose to their feet and marched on including sifu KCChong.
Its a temporary setback, but will remind us to be humble.
You will find your level and hope u hv a bright future from there.
Good Luck & keep posting.

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