Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-16 12:50 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq33333333 > Feb 16, 2020 12:35 PM | Report Abuse

.....so, no point in beating up the education ministry, they do their things, you do your own things....

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When the education system turns bad, it is every citizen (especially the learned ones)'s obligation and responsibility to voice out....for the innocent children!

*Cheated education is one of the biggest scandals of modern era (yet easily noticeable, diagnosable and corrigible)

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-16 12:56 | Report Abuse

........despite having to overcome resistance from many FRANKENSTEIN monsters* (Degree-Mill Shelleyism Syndrome)

*unworthy academics who are in-cave (Plato Cave) products

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-16 12:57 | Report Abuse

u think they don't know meh?

in Malaysia education is politics and politics is education.....


M says he wants science and maths to be taught in English , A and wife says this thing not yet decided by cabinet.............who u trust?


The former education minister is a fan of Finland style schools/ education.........but he got forced out due to public pressure.



Malaysia will be Malaysia.....and as long as they open up, give more choices, that is the best outcome.............

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-16 13:01 | Report Abuse

Easy way out is not the best option in the long run....

.....identify, tackle, resolve the fundamental flaws are the only way forward

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-16 13:04 | Report Abuse

The direction determines the future destiny......

.....education determines current sustainabily and future survivability

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-16 13:05 | Report Abuse

....and the premiership's words, philosophy and narratives set the direction.....

(or anchor/pin the nation down)

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-16 13:37 | Report Abuse

ENGINEERING PHILOSOPHY ON SUSTAINABILITY AND PROSPERITY

QUESTION 1: CURING SYMPTOMS OR UNDERLYING DISEASE

Flowchart: OPQRSTUVW Model

O - OVERPOPULATION
P - POVERTY PRONE
Q - QUALITY OF EDUCATION IS COMPROMISED
R - RESOURCES (esp natural) ARE OVER-STRETCHED
S - STABILITY OF ECOSYSTEM IS CHALLENGED
T - TIPPING POINT

WHAT IS NEXT?

a) UNDO/UNWIND
b) VAIN (do nothing.....deo volante)
c) WRAP UP (gulung tikar....'expire')

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-16 14:25 | Report Abuse

practically 100 % of Malaysian Chinese children goes to Chinese medium primary schools..........The fact that the government allow this to happen is already a miracle, do not happen any where else in the world.

some more want to complain so much...........

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-16 14:26 | Report Abuse

among the new generation of Malaysian Chinese, almost 100% speaks mandarin....does not happen any where else in the world..........like that also want to complain so much.............

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-16 14:29 | Report Abuse

its very funny......Malaysian schools are supposed to be very lousy....yet, when they grow up and go to foreign universities, they do very well......when they grow up and work overseas, they do very well.....and Malaysian workers are very popular in China.

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-16 17:03 | Report Abuse

its true the Malaysian schools are very lousy..but family influences are far more important...but in lousy schools, some learn the university of life better.

many factors determine a person's character, and chances in life.

of course it is true without debate that nowadays it is more important then ever to be born into good parents than ever before. People of the boomer generation have more opportunities to climb the social ladder even when born into not so good parents.

Posted by Sslee > 2020-02-16 18:55 | Report Abuse

Dear qqq3,
Please has a heart for our fellow Malaysians who are in B40 which I was one during my childhood time. I am grateful that the national education at that time had uplifted my brother and sister to middle class.

We need to fit our current national education now to include critical thinking, empowerment, humanistic values, future proof graduates and improvising teaching methods. Or else we will produce many misfits and instead of surge ahead together will fall further behind as a fail state.

Thank you

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-16 21:39 | Report Abuse

That's the right spirit, Sslee. That's morality - to REDUCE people's sufferings*

*Of course, mainly referring to the disadvantaged and struggling B40. As for the leaders who got Mercwdes from the state fund, and theor cronies, needless to say.....

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-16 21:46 | Report Abuse

Leader candidates mist debate on these:

CURING SYMPTOMS OR UNDERLYING DISEASE?

Flowchart: OPQRSTUVW Model

O - OVERPOPULATION
P - POVERTY PRONE
Q - QUALITY OF EDUCATION IS COMPROMISED
R - RESOURCES (esp natural) ARE OVER-STRETCHED
S - STABILITY OF ECOSYSTEM IS CHALLENGED
T - TIPPING POINT IS APPROACHING

WHAT IS NEXT?

a) UNDO/UNWIND
b) VAIN (do nothing.....deo volante)
c) WRAP UP (gulung tikar....'expire')

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-16 21:51 | Report Abuse

Final 'WAKE UP' call?

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 00:39 | Report Abuse

education... look at HK.... they purposely took a different approach and look at the end result! It's a disaster.

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 00:42 | Report Abuse

education... not just Malaysia... very few countries in the world has changed their approach from 100 years ago

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-17 06:33 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq33333333 > Feb 17, 2020 12:39 AM | Report Abuse

education... look at HK.... they purposely took a different approach and look at the end result! It's a disaster.

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ENGINEERING PHILOSOPHY: NARRATIVE DEPENDENT

A CRITICAL CASE OF CLASHES OF IDEOLOGY : COMMUNISM DICTATORSHIP VS LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC DECENTRALISATION


What do the protesters want?

Motto: "Five demands, not one less!" These are:

1.For the protests not to be characterised as a "riot" (Rioters or the people's voice?)

2.Amnesty for arrested protesters (criminala or heroes?- Gomen or the ppl to decide?)

3.An independent inquiry into alleged police brutality (A must in democratic system)

4.Implementation of complete universal suffrage (The real meaning of democracy)

5. the withdrawal of the extradition bill which allowed for criminal suspects to be extradited to mainland China under certain circumstances. (has already been met)


* During this period, the territory held local council elections that were seen as a barometer of public opinion. The vote saw a landslide victory for the pro-democracy movement , with 17 of the 18 councils now controlled by pro-democracy councillors.

* Conclusions:

1. Live by design, or by default - the hongkongers must choose (NOW OR NEVER?)

2. Democracy can be hijacked or taken away, and the people may have to rise to regain it. ( It may take lots of struggles, courage and sacrifice- WORTH IT OR NOT - the people must only ask themselves?)


Question for qqq3, which side do you support - Xi Jinping or the people? (If you must choose)

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-17 06:40 | Report Abuse

Or is there any of their demans that you think is immature, redundant or unreasonable?

Do you think they have been shortsighted to fight for something for themselves selfishly? Or for the betterment of generations to come?

Regressive (ignoble, irresponsible, barbaric thugs) or progressive (noble, strong sense of responsibility, courageous heroes ) struggle?

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-17 06:41 | Report Abuse

(......since you keep bringing out issues with them)

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 13:40 | Report Abuse

Question for qqq3, which side do you support - Xi Jinping or the people? (If you must choose)
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stupid question.......the rioters are destroying HK.....all brain washed, worse than virus worse than drugs..........

me? I think HK no hope....HK soon will be a fishing village....

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 13:45 | Report Abuse

of course I am on the side of Xi...China has done no wrong....In fact China had been extraordinarily helpful to HK all these years.......

remember the years China were poor? China used to send all their best vegetables to HK....nothing to eat also give HK the best.......now, so ungrateful.............that is why I say gratefulness is the most important thing.......not the rioters and their democracy and freedom...............

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-17 13:58 | Report Abuse

And you think these protesters who comprised of:

Civil Human Rights Front (CHRF)
Pro-democracy camp
Localist groups
Pro-independence groups
Student unions of the public universities
Hong Kong Higher Institutions International Affairs Delegation (HKIAD)
Workers' unions from various sectors
Hospital Authority Employees Alliance
Citizens Press Conference
Hong Kong Civil Assembly Team (HKCAT)
Spark Alliance
612 Humanitarian Relief Fund
Protect the Children
Several religious groups

........are brainless, worthless and merely nuisance?


Ya...ya....just the very same feeling of gratitude ( even till freedom has been taken away bit by bit*) till being burried alive??

*Carrie Lam's controversies include the trial and imprisonment of democracy activists, the disqualification of several pro-democracy candidates, as well as the criminalisation of the pro-independence Hong Kong National Party. Her government was also criticised for raising the qualification age for Comprehensive Social Security Assistance and for its handling of the cross-harbour tunnel toll plan, and amendment to the extradition law.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-17 14:23 | Report Abuse

And guess you'd be on the side of President Omar al-Bashir (30 years in power) in Sudanese Revolution 2018/2019


* Too high cost of Sudan's struggle for democracy

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 14:28 | Report Abuse

the rioters also pushed out the previous CEO...a very smart and very good chap.................


the rioters are worse than virus, worse than drugs....they are trojan horses planted and financed by the West.............

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 14:29 | Report Abuse

EngineeringProfit > Feb 17, 2020 2:23 PM | Report Abuse

And guess you'd be on the side of President Omar al-Bashir (30 years in power) in Sudanese Revolution 2018/2019

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like China, I will not finance the ouster of anyone.....Every country to handle their own problems , travel their journey the best they can.............

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 14:33 | Report Abuse

guess who wants the extradition bill removed?

The property developers, led by superman LKS, and other criminal types who has the most to fear from the extradition bills.........

extradition bills as drafted require final decision of HK Supreme Court to send anyone to China...........good bill ...........

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 14:35 | Report Abuse

so now what? HK become safe haven for all criminal types? and that because the west wanted it this way?

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 14:37 | Report Abuse

HK need to evolve or die...now, the rioters have chosen death.......so let it be...................I think HK no hope.

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 15:08 | Report Abuse

there is no government who has done better than China for its people over the last 30-40 or more years...........think about that....

and the rioters of HK? Just brain washed idiots............

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-17 15:44 | Report Abuse

You say so because you idolise China gomen and disregard the Hongkongers' feelings, dreams and wishes.

* And you would never be grateful for many unsung heroes who had sacrificed their lives for democracy (in the past/present)

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-17 15:52 | Report Abuse

Grateful is what we should feel....

.....knowing, hearing and visualizibg the very live voice of democracy still prevailing

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 16:24 | Report Abuse

what did I tell u about gratitude?

Those who cannot show gratitude, sure to fail...........

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 16:27 | Report Abuse

those black shirts....they want to do a revolution and failed......


Failure has costs......now, the cost is passed on to HK as well as personal cost.....I hope the CCP will ban all black shirt leaders from China for the rest of their lives..........that is the costs, and they deserve it............worth it or not?

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-17 18:30 | Report Abuse

Each and everytime, a new gen has risen up.....

.....done what's their true calling.

For that is their unyielding believe- that in the face of impossible odds, the people can change it.

* Through his will and faith, Lincoln moved a nation to a direction that free the slaves. Since.....many unsung heroes - made of men and women of every race, from every walk of life, continued to march for freedom long afterhe was laid to rest- THE SAME SPIRIT - OF PEOPLE'S POWER OVER OPPRESSIVE FORCES

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-17 18:41 | Report Abuse

Freedom is the minimal luxury that a leader in a democratic country can cater for the people.....

.....many of whom struggle on a daily basis......struggle paycheck to paycheck.....

...... despite working as hard as they can (yes, many half-baked leaders would not be hesitate to label them as lazy).....

......while hoping that their children could learn something useful in schools......a place where too many adults preaching falsehood (biggest educational scandal of this century)........a place where students aren't actually learning what kids suppose to learn

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-17 18:46 | Report Abuse

Now more than ever, success in the world economy BEGINS at the SCHOOLHOUSE DOOR. Every leader must take note that a WORLD-CLASS education is CRITICAL for the children to grow up and live their dreams.

* Moreover, attracting and developing good jobs in native country relies on having a HIGHLY EDUCATED, SKILLED WORKFORCE with the right ingrained philosophy in each and every one of them.

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 18:50 | Report Abuse

the black shirts are just brain washed teenagers....what do they know about politics and world affairs?

some more, each time they move, the cost to HK and their personal cost increases.....until when? Until HK becomes a fishing village and they all rot in hell................lol..........

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-17 18:55 | Report Abuse

....meaning they must strive to be part of the solution, and not problem with the below:

O - OVERPOPULATION
P - POVERTY PRONE
Q - QUALITY OF EDUCATION IS COMPROMISED
R - RESOURCES (esp natural) ARE OVER-STRETCHED
S - STABILITY OF ECOSYSTEM IS CHALLENGED
T - TIPPING POINT NEXT

SOLUTION?

Conscience and right thinking - in each of them


* Leaders must be empowering, enlightening and inspiring the people.....

......not indiscriminate use of FORCE, fae from exerting OPPRESSIVE policies

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-17 18:57 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq33333333 > Feb 17, 2020 6:50 PM | Report Abuse

the black shirts are just brain washed teenagers....what do they know about politics and world affairs?

some more, each time they move, the cost to HK and their personal cost increases.....until when? Until HK becomes a fishing village and they all rot in hell................lol.........


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I do not believe this version of the story. I believe they really know what they are foghting for.

*And once they get the fundamental right, they can rebuild very fast

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-17 19:00 | Report Abuse

At the cross road now, they do not want to regret for not striving for something deems too critical for them.

* It's the leader who should try to understand them at the first place

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 19:36 | Report Abuse

education.......education don't have to be traditional education........education can also bite sized education......

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200212-could-micro-credentials-compete-with-traditional-degrees?ocid=global_worklife_rss


no need to wait for the government.........

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 19:37 | Report Abuse

chee sin...........that is how idiots kill themselves and everyone associated with them............

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 19:40 | Report Abuse

HK black shirts, Al Qaeeda, color revolutions all over....no difference......all are done by idiots and all doomed to fail.......

idiots like these caused more damage than all the Colonel Gadafis and Saddam Hussein could ever do.............

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 19:41 | Report Abuse

after all Colonel Gadafis and Saddam Hussein are the legitimate rulers of their country.....and patriotic enough....

Posted by Sslee > 2020-02-17 19:47 | Report Abuse

Dear all,
I believe in nonviolent/peaceful protest for your legitimate demand or JUST course. Hence I support Bersih or any peaceful protest.

But when protest become violet, then the organizer should be held responsible and accountable and should control and cool down the situation.

For Hong Kong protest leaders who they may be, it is wrong to escalation the protest into violet clash with police, blockage/occupy/set fire/vandalize MRT, Airport, Bank, Shop lots, University, Legislator Building, Police Station and etc.

The western reporters and government were hypocrites in condemning CPC or Hong Kong government but true to be told how this western government will response if this type of violet protest will to happen in their countries?

Thank you
P/S: It is my hope the voices of reason, sanity, and understanding amid the voices of violence, hatred, and emotion will prevail from both sides.

“World peace through nonviolent means is neither absurd nor unattainable. All other methods have failed. Thus we must begin anew. Nonviolence is a good starting point. Those of us who believe in this method can be voices of reason, sanity, and understanding amid the voices of violence, hatred, and emotion. We can very well set a mood of peace out of which a system of peace can be built. — Martin Luther King Jr.”

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2020-02-17 20:07 | Report Abuse

Targeting moderate protesters rather than engaging with the underlying cause of their discontent may in fact simply inflame passions and encourage more people to voice that discontent on the streets.

The turmoil is unlikely to end quickly, with the government not showing any signs of meeting the remaining demands of protesters.

Posted by Sslee > 2020-02-17 21:20 | Report Abuse

Dear EngineeringProfit,
My view on Hong Kong summer of unrest as below:
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/Sslee_blog/2019-07-26-story216997-An_inconvenient_truth_on_Hong_Kong_summer_of_unrest.jsp

As of US and Western media:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/07/curbing-the-coronavirus-while-targeting-china/
Discrediting China is part of a larger geo-political drive that seeks to thwart China’s ascendancy. The aim is to ensure that the present hegemon, the United States of America (USA) remains on top at all costs. A host of measures and moves — some economic, some technological, some related to security and politics, others linked to culture and human rights — have been adopted by those who are hell-bent on perpetuating their hegemonic power. This is why some of the distortions about the current coronavirus threat should be seen in the light of disinformation about the alleged persecution of the Uighurs in China and the so-called suppression of the people of Hong Kong. The name of the game is the same: it is the targeting of China.

Thank you

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 21:42 | Report Abuse

HK government and China government has done no wrong....now, Beijing has send in their hardliner into the liason office...a guy who earned his wings and became a pet of Xi by his actions against the Christians / Christian churches/ taking down crosses in China.......

like this guy already.............


I hope they find a way to arrest all the opposition politicians... These are one of the main culprits
RTHK and Apple Daily needs to be revamped.... These are also opposition pillars
From here onwards, HK will prioritise national security over One country two systems.

yes, there is no force in the world that can defeat China, not even viruses...........

Posted by qqq33333333 > 2020-02-17 22:10 | Report Abuse

China need to send a strong message to HK residents........resistance is futile.........only that will restore the peace and prosperity of HK......