Dear dragonslayer, OK my apology to Tibet Monk. Previously Tibet Monk already cut-win Insas 3 times on the bet with 3iii 10 year ago. This time Insas is under-value because of Inari. Tibet monk still has 3 more betting with Philip. 1. Insas share price will hit rm0.90 by 31st August 2019. Winner: Philip 2. Insas share price will hit rm1.00 by February 2020. 3. Insas again QL. Jan 2019 market price again Jan 2020 market price.(% increase) 4. Insas again QL. Jan 2019 market price again Jan 2021 market price.(% increase) The score now is Philip 1: Tibet Monk 0 Tibet Monk still got 3 chances to overtake Philip.
Hi sohai minority shareholder. So now move goalposts again? Ok la watch see how you can play, but this one not very fair again but let you enjoy la. First you say February after the warrants expire it will go up to rm1, so if people buy the warrants to dilute the share price down you stress, don't buy you also stress. How la? Now say July only it will go up to rm1? Every day change story, any sorry story in your life is real?
Philip doesn't change goalpost. When I say pchem is worth rm 10 at least is after completion and production run of IPIC, which is guaranteed to boosts earnings for PCHEM with new products for different markets like aromatics for skincare and beauty industry ( high margin), specialty chemicals for new businesses like lubricants, sealants and others for new markets in Asia ( instead of import from 3M and Europe and USA all the time).
Do you know what is PIC? Don't know? Then good log, you don't need to buy any pchem stock. Please stick to your shifting goalposts.
Your myvi already send for service? Mr biggest minority shareholder of INSAS?
>>>>>>>>>>
Posted by stockraider > Aug 31, 2019 1:19 PM | Report Abuse
This sohai veli talkcock veli panlai loh...!!
Yes raider says Insas can go up to Rm 0.90 by 31 august and above rm 1.00 in july but imagine within 1 mth rm 0.90 and within 6 mths above rm 1.00, the ultimate goal is still above rm 1.00 mah, why need to harp on temporary short term setback leh ??
I remember Philip says Pchem can go Rm 10.00, what happen leh ??
Also look at sohai Philip QL still underperform against raider insas and charles MNRB loh...!! Why sohai Philip umderperform if he say he is so panlai leh ??
Philip comment, HK1997 again) Philip Really a sohai everyday moving goalposts, how to become investor? Last time say hengyuan rm35 deep value, then say insas rm0.9 before merdeka, now say rm1, everyday change story and bullshit all the way.
How to become biggest MINORITY SHAREHOLDER OF INSAS? Everyday lie like Calvin tan also? How many lies can you tell before everyone gives up on you?
sslee....some people like high cash, low PE, nice balance sheet....
when I first come to i3.....everyone looking for shares with high cash, low PE, nice balance sheet.....and that time kc chong from NZ very active in promoting shares with high cash, low PE, nice balance sheet....and u found yours in Insas....
well, I am Professor Higgins from My Fair Lady.....I like to pick up a flower girl and turn her into a society lady.
every era is different and this era, u have to be more like Professor Higgins if you want to perform.............
ps...u can call me Professor Higgins...from my Form 5 literature.
Hahahaha qqq3, I will call you faked accountant: Operating cash-flow of $1.2billion??? https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/staticfile/367117.jsp Period Ended 30.06.2019 RM’000 Profit/(loss) for the financial period 143,477 Adjustments for non-cash items: Share of results of joint ventures and associate (68,926) Gain on disposal of property, plant and equipment and non-current assets held-for-sale (2,091) Depreciation of property, plant and equipment 211,935 Fair value through profit and loss on derivative financial instruments (6,961) Net allowance for impairment losses 5,482 Unrealised foreign exchange loss 383 Share-based payment 1,553 Impairment of: Interest income (15,233) Interest expense 271,029 Accretion of interest 736 Taxation 28,852 Operating profit before changes in working capital 570,236 Changes in working capital: Inventories 1,049 Finance lease receivables 79,221 Trade and other receivables 165,147 Trade and other payables (163,496) Joint ventures 6,703 Cash from operations 658,860 Interest paid (268,425) Tax paid (2,808) NET CASH FLOWS GENERATED FROM OPERATING ACTIVITIES 387,627
Above is 6 months cash-flow result from operating activities. Faked accountant mind to teach your accountant 101 how to get operating cash flow of 1.2 billion a year? Who are you going to fool dumb dumb hold?
Posted by qqq3 > Sep 3, 2019 9:19 AM | Report Abuse agreed, just dumb dumb hold...today is a bad , still green...... Stock: [ARMADA]: BUMI ARMADA BHD Sep 1, 2019 11:09 AM | Report Abuse 2 nd quarter... PBT $ 100 m add depreciation $ $ 200 m PBT plus depreciation is $ 300 million operating cashflows for 2 nd quarter....X 4 is $ 1.2 billion a years with possibility of better performance from recovery in OMS and Kraken...............
changes in working capital will reverse......the better way to look at cashflow is simply use operating profits and adjust for non cash items such as depreciations...............
this company generated $ 300 million of PBT plus depreciation for last quarter...............
valuations differs...but everyone seems to agree BA can make $ 400 - $ 500 M PBT per year for next few years...........................so just buy and wait for upgrade la......
valuations differs...but everyone seems to agree BA can make $ 400 - $ 500 M PBT per year for next few years...........................so just buy and wait for upgrade la......
icon will agree and he has the patience......comes to valuations, IB very takut one when they have been burned by the market before.
Hahahaha qqq3, if taken out the change in working capital then for 6 months operating cash-flow is 299M. Am I right? Period Ended 30.06.2019 RM’000 Profit/(loss) for the financial period 143,477 Adjustments for non-cash items: Share of results of joint ventures and associate (68,926) Gain on disposal of property, plant and equipment and non-current assets held-for-sale (2,091) Depreciation of property, plant and equipment 211,935 Fair value through profit and loss on derivative financial instruments (6,961) Net allowance for impairment losses 5,482 Unrealised foreign exchange loss 383 Share-based payment 1,553 Interest income (15,233) Interest expense 271,029 Accretion of interest 736 Taxation 28,852 Operating profit before changes in working capital 570,236 Changes in working capital: Inventories 1,049 Finance lease receivables 79,221. Taken out Trade and other receivables 165,147. Taken out Trade and other payables (163,496). Taken out Joint ventures 6,703. Taken out Cash from operations 570,236 Interest paid (268,425) Tax paid (2,808) NET CASH FLOWS GENERATED FROM OPERATING ACTIVITIES =570,236-268,425-2,808 =299,003
hahahaha, deMusangking qqq3 very happy to download his JAKS to you. Pity ALP had to come in to support JAKS price otherwise he will be chopped to pieces by the RI subscribers (Ah Long)
Aiyo..btw..what you all talking about ha...Armada kah...aiyoyo..how to arrange armada vs Insas competition...price too far away leh...aiyoyo...Armada vs Velesto vs Sapnrg...like this baru ok leh...bcos..they are family chain relation ship leh....aiyoyo...kikiki
Armada supporters qqq3 Tibet Monk Icon8888 StockGod Coldeyes Curutman
developed economies...negative interest, yield curve inversions, interest rate cuts.....
buy FPSO with their fixed incomes such as Armada and Yinson makes good sense ......
presently, Yinson is fund manager favorite, Armada is retail favorite. , fund managers have largely left Armada...This is not necessarily a bad thing.
Profitability and increasing profits will reward shareholders. Just wait for reratings.
FYI, Kenanga expects PBT for Armada to be around $ 450 million for FY 2019 and FY 2020........If they are correct, this thing cannot be just 25 sen when results are slowly announced......
bankruptcy risk? as long as they remain profitable, there will be no bankruptcy risks...they are restructuring all their loans and both major shareholders and bankers have shown willingness to support..........
to perform , pick a flower girl and turn her into society lady....but if you pick a wrong girl like Insas, she gets older and older and loses her appeal, then how?
Hahahaha, qqq3 why hard selling Armada in Insas forum? https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/ptres/52172.jsp Date: 03/09/2019 Source : PUBLIC BANK Stock : ARMADA Price Target : 0.22 https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/ptres/52190.jsp Date: 03/09/2019 Source : KENANGA Stock : ARMADA Price Target : 0.20 Are we seeing the same Kenanga report??? "FYI, Kenanga expects PBT for Armada to be around $ 450 million for FY 2019 and FY 2020........If they are correct, this thing cannot be just 25 sen when results are slowly announced...... " Agreed Kenanga concluded cannot be 25 sen but sell call 20 sen
Hahahaha, qqq3 why hard selling Armada in Insas forum?
=========
why? to show contrast lah......to perform , pick a flower girl and turn her into society lady....but if you pick a wrong girl like Insas, she gets older and older and loses her appeal, then how?
well, before next results this Armada will be above 30 sen......and will not be first time my prediction better than IBs....
to perform, read IB for info , not for opinion about prices.....God knows how they do prices...Kenanga projection $ $440 million PBT and 20 sen price.....upgrades from 15 sen to 20 sen.....
Public Bank projections....$323 million, $ 416 million and and $ 449 million PBT for 2019, 2020, 2021...and tp 22 sen.
.My prediction.......before next results, this thing above 30 sen....I think IB tp is purely plucked from the air and just monkey see monkey do
Hahahaha, qqq3 why hard selling Armada in Insas forum?
=========
why? to show contrast lah......to perform , pick a flower girl and turn her into society lady....but if you pick a wrong girl like Insas, she gets older and older and loses her appeal, then how?
well, before next results this Armada will be above 30 sen......and will not be first time my prediction better than IBs....
to perform, read IB for info , not for opinion about prices.....God knows how they do prices...Kenanga projection $ $440 million PBT and 20 sen price.....upgrades from 15 sen to 20 sen.....
Public Bank projections....$323 million, $ 416 million and and $ 449 million PBT for 2019, 2020, 2021...and tp 22 sen.
.My prediction.......before next results, this thing above 30 sen....I think IB tp is purely plucked from the air and just monkey see monkey do
Dear deMusangking, Posted by deMusangking > Sep 4, 2019 3:11 PM | Report Abuse sslee when can we wet wet here????? haha
If you look into INSAS annual report 2018. ANALYSIS BY SIZE OF HOLDINGS Size of holdings: No. of shareholders: No. of ordinary shares Less than 100: 2,199: 79,065 100 - 1,000: 1,762: 746,609 1,001 - 10,000: 17,682: 62,415,122 10,001 - 100,000: 4,286: 115,772,238 100,001 - 33,150,317: 539: 392,898,495 33,150,318 and above: 2: 91,094,813 Total 26,470: 663,006,342
Hence every time the price increases a little bit some of these 17,682 retail shareholders holding 1,001-10,000 shares will quick to sell their shares to cut win or cut loss.
It look like INSAS price can only rocket up if strong holder with deep pocket collect more INSAS from the 17,682 retail shareholders holding 62,415,122 shares before INSAS can rocket up.
Or need to wait till 25 Feb 2020 for Dato’ Sri Thong to do an MGO Number of Warrant B: 265,202,536 (Exercise price: RM 1.00. Expiry date: 25 FEB 2020) Dato’ Sri Thong direct and deemed interest: 31.45%
Thank you P/S: My advice to you, need to learn how to delay gratification no good getting wet-wet so fast.
Dear deMusangking, Posted by deMusangking > Sep 4, 2019 3:11 PM | Report Abuse sslee when can we wet wet here????? haha
If you look into INSAS annual report 2018. ANALYSIS BY SIZE OF HOLDINGS Size of holdings: No. of shareholders: No. of ordinary shares Less than 100: 2,199: 79,065 100 - 1,000: 1,762: 746,609 1,001 - 10,000: 17,682: 62,415,122 10,001 - 100,000: 4,286: 115,772,238 100,001 - 33,150,317: 539: 392,898,495 33,150,318 and above: 2: 91,094,813 Total 26,470: 663,006,342
Hence every time the price increases a little bit some of these 17,682 retail shareholders holding 1,001-10,000 shares will quick to sell their shares to cut win or cut loss.
It look like INSAS price can only rocket up if strong holder with deep pocket collect more INSAS from the 17,682 retail shareholders holding 62,415,122 shares before INSAS can rocket up.
Or need to wait till 25 Feb 2020 for Dato’ Sri Thong to do an MGO Number of Warrant B: 265,202,536 (Exercise price: RM 1.00. Expiry date: 25 FEB 2020) Dato’ Sri Thong direct and deemed interest: 31.45%
Thank you P/S: My advice to you, need to learn how to delay gratification no good getting wet-wet so fast.
Hahahaha qqq3, do the math. If you sell one inari at 1.60 you can buy two insas at 80 sen. You then own indirectly 1.8 inari shares and all the others insas cash and businesss.
sted by Sslee > Sep 5, 2019 10:09 AM | Report Abuse
Hahahaha qqq3, do the math. If you sell one inari at 1.60 you can buy two insas at 80 sen. You then own indirectly 1.8 inari shares and all the others insas cash and businesss. ===========
like that meh? U can buy more Armada...armada less than 30 sen each.........
Hahahaha qqq3 all those very high debt O&G are only good for trading include Yinson. But remember when things do not work out, do not get trapped inside cut loss and fight another day in another counter......kikiki By the way PAS is in favour to send TSA back to India instead of Dr. Naik
New IPO: Building management systems (BMS), solar thermal systems and energy-saving services provider, Solar District Cooling Bhd aims to list on the Ace Market!
This book is the result of the author's many years of experience and observation throughout his 26 years in the stockbroking industry. It was written for general public to learn to invest based on facts and not on fantasies or hearsay....
lizi
1,968 posts
Posted by lizi > 2019-09-02 20:59 | Report Abuse
this is what so called value investor do.
Sslee Hahahaha
3iii, stockraider sell at 0.86 buy again at 0.75 now waiting to sell at 0.86 again...kikiki
01/09/2019 2:29 PM