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Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-04 17:44 | Report Abuse

Singapore airlines also make fuel hedging losses if fuel oil on the uptrend.

My mistake since Singapore airlines is end user of the jet fuel they will make a hedged buy forward month/months on the fuel and start selling the airticket forwad month/months.

Hence if forward month/months jet fuel price drop the hedge buy will make a loss but their pre sold air tickets will make extra gain due to cheaper fuel/cheaper cost.

Hence if you make a hedged buy when price drop the hedge will make a loss.

If you make a hedged sell refining margin at USD 15 per barrel then when refining margin go up above USD 15 you will make a hedging loss.

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-09-04 17:49 | Report Abuse

sslee
market makers have started Fare Hedging for airlines
you can buy or sell airlines Fare Futures

so its all complete

Revenue is physical and futures
fuel is physical and futures

you can open Virtual Airline, Virtual Refinery. Virtual Palm Oil Mill etc etc

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-04 17:54 | Report Abuse

It should be very profitable if can open a virtual brothel house

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-09-04 18:12 | Report Abuse

the Bill Hwang Archegos is a true Pyramid Up
see what happened to him?
arrested !!!

as I see it he had many chances to unwind and escape away
and make Billions of USD but greed got the better of him.

always throw units out and get cash

accumulate units for what?

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Posted by Johnzhang > 2022-09-04 19:23 | Report Abuse

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The malicious attackers just spamming and barking on the cashflow hedge fair value loss and cost of hedging reserve amounting to ($1,079,600k) for Q2. These items are in fact Balance sheet items , not loss per se . They are termed as comprehensive (expense )or income , not as loss. ( pls read the P&L carefully).
The abovesaid amount exactly reflects the differences between 30.6.22 and 31.3.22 for Cashflow hedge reserves, cost of hedging reserve and exchange translation reserve appear in the balance sheet (BS)

Per BS. 30.6.22 ($1,459,160k ) ( ie 543,706k + 786,566k+ 128,888k)
Per BS 31.3.22 ($379,560k) (ie $299,007 k -48,335k+128888k)
The change between the qtrs is ($1,079,600k)
The impact on P&L from eventual reclassification of this BS items is not direct . There are many other elements. Don’t be confused that these are sure losses in the future . Accounting for derivatives is not a layman like you and me can fully comprehend.

Posted by myongcc5 > 2022-09-04 19:44 | Report Abuse

What nonsense, NL was playing Japanese derivative.
What was there to hedge. Pure gambling

Posted by tehka > 2022-09-04 19:56 | Report Abuse

Uncle koon start, attack Hengyuan, is Uncle start buying Hengyuan again?
Uncle sell call = buy
Uncle buy call = sell

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'Hedge' meaning: a way of protecting oneself from financial loss or any adverse circumstances

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-04 20:00 | Report Abuse

Provided you panlai hedge lah. If you tak panlai will incur loss lah. Haiyoh. Correct?


myongcc5

'Hedge' meaning: a way of protecting oneself from financial loss or any adverse circumstances

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Posted by myongcc5 > 2022-09-04 20:02 | Report Abuse

Dragonslayer, U again

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-04 20:02 | Report Abuse

Dont trick ppl with such lousy way lah. Uncle Koon will buy HY lagi kah. Ada proof or not. You got check with Uncle Koon personally or not. Dont be like that desperate keep using Uncle Koon name leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

tehka

Uncle koon start, attack Hengyuan, is Uncle start buying Hengyuan again?
Uncle sell call = buy
Uncle buy call = sell

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-04 20:05 | Report Abuse

What talking you. Many cakap Ular very suey one leh. Mana ada chance to se green leh. You caya kah. Haiyoh. Correct?


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Usually wont see Ular talk soo much in green ctr

Cannot feel ‘connection’(pain/loss) with people in green ctr

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Posted by tehka > 2022-09-04 20:07 | Report Abuse

Dear ular, uncle flip flop methods are well known in i3 circle mah! So naturally I am curious loh! Is uncle buying Hengyuan since uncle is attacking Hengyuan?

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-04 20:08 | Report Abuse

Wei itu jipun macam macam same as Ular leh. One heaven one hell different leh. Haiyoh. Correct?


MoneyMakers

Ular story like natsuko - everyday find red ctr talk nonsense

Ular just want share/connect TG pain with people in red ctr (share similar pain/loss together)

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-04 20:24 | Report Abuse

TP high not hit also more keksim leh. TP low hit already can go happy hour mah. So why TP so high and keksim at the end leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

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