HENGYUAN REFINING COMPANY BERHAD

KLSE (MYR): HENGYUAN (4324)

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Last Price

2.39

Today's Change

-0.01 (0.42%)

Day's Change

2.38 - 2.42

Trading Volume

737,900


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123,784 comment(s). Last comment by yongyong88 17 hours ago

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-13 16:08 |

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BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-13 16:11 |

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probability

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-13 16:11 |

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VincentTang

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Posted by VincentTang > 2022-09-13 16:11 | Report Abuse

HengYuan kasi limit up today.

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-13 16:12 |

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-13 16:12 | Report Abuse

You have the point too. But saham not reflecting it leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

BobAxelrod

You may have a point but you also cannot concede all to be expiring in June for your unrealistic working example too, right?

MoneyMakers

Nobody knows HY hedged price/period/position - simple

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probability

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-13 16:12 | Report Abuse

yes, its distributed with front end loading...

Posted by BobAxelrod > Sep 13, 2022 4:12 PM | Report Abuse

Moreover, to be Hedging for 24 months down the road, seems like a task for Hercules........or God of Thunder, Thor Ordinson.

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-13 16:13 |

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probability

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-13 16:16 | Report Abuse

@MM.

your lay man theory ABSOLUTELY WRONG, as they have hedged till 2024

YOU NEED TO IMPROVE YOUR IQ..

9 million barrels of hedged instruments cannot expire within 3 months

if that happens, Q2 would have reported EPS as if its 100% hedged at 12 USD/brl margin but they reported above 28 USD/brl!!

1 QTR revenue is 10 million barrels

that should be simple common sense to layman...

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-13 16:18 |

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BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-13 16:20 | Report Abuse

Anyway, as mentioned last night.....the Hedging has been scrutinised under the microscope by the Bankers.....came out with flying colors.......

probability

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-13 16:21 | Report Abuse

OCI accounting has COHR which is forecasted mark-to-market valuation of forward contracts based qtr closing date....

these are forecasted transaction at prevailing spot rate..the hedging instrument has not expired

it changes the moment spot rate changes back to to how it was at Q1 closing

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-13 16:22 |

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probability

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-13 16:23 | Report Abuse

Pending to become unrealized half a billion gain be end of Q3!!


Posted by MoneyMakers > Sep 13, 2022 4:21 PM | Report Abuse

Aiyaa whatever calculation/explanation no use alrdy

At this stage all alrdy made their bed (choose side) - those choose ignore ‘pending’ 1.07Bil hedging loss need sleep with huge stock loss lo

probability

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-13 16:24 | Report Abuse

those chose to listen to MM will lose out big opportunity to make money!


Posted by MoneyMakers > Sep 13, 2022 4:23 PM | Report Abuse

Aiyaa whatever calculation/explanation no use alrdy

At this stage all alrdy made their bed (choose side) - those choose ignore ‘pending’ 1.07Bil hedging loss need sleep with huge stock loss lo

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-13 16:24 | Report Abuse

"Let's see" and "Ifs" are not on my vocabulary......such uncertainty are not welcomed......

Bobby : How sure are you on this?
Dollar Bill : I AM NOT UNCERTAIN.

Posted by Investing_Bursa > 2022-09-13 16:24 | Report Abuse

Lets close strong today !

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-13 16:26 |

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probability

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-13 16:26 | Report Abuse

@MM simple question to you...

what is the difference between Cash flow hedge reserve and Cost of hedging Reserve...

you do not know IFRS 9...

MM - OBVIOUSLY DO NOT KNOW A SINGLE THING ABOUT OCI...LOL!

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-13 16:26 | Report Abuse

Walao HY so high volume done after released Loan news yesterday with forum so many cakap pasti tuju langit leh Over 1 million saham traded so far. Alot leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-13 16:27 |

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dompeilee

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Posted by dompeilee > 2022-09-13 16:30 | Report Abuse

Raider already short HY & trying to shout it DOWN to make a profit...probability, others & myself already long HY & hoping it will go up...let's see who wins by Dec '22

probability

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-13 16:32 | Report Abuse

no we cannot use feelings..and agak agak

we must debate and find the truth...

take the challenge?

Posted by MoneyMakers > Sep 13, 2022 4:30 PM | Report Abuse

Aiyaa if confident HY just buy lo..cheap ma

If scared (smart) then stay away lo..simple ma

Alot info provided alrdy..ownself decide lo - later dont cry mother father when collapse to rm3

Zhuge_Liang

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Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-09-13 16:33 |

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BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-13 16:33 |

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-13 16:37 | Report Abuse

Not agak agak then how to predict leh. Ada lesen punya analist pun pakai agak agak to TP mah. Not like this meh. Haiyoh. Correct?

probability

no we cannot use feelings..and agak agak

we must debate and find the truth...

take the challenge?

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-13 16:38 | Report Abuse

If rm3.00 ular kenot buy pun will ask all at here to buy lah. Haiyoh. Correct?


BobAxelrod

Hiaz......now 3.00 pun.....Can pawn underwear also want to buy lor....

MoneyMakers

Aiyaa if confident HY just buy lo..cheap ma

If scared (smart) then stay away lo..simple ma

Alot info provided alrdy..ownself decide lo - later dont cry mother father when collapse to rm3

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probability

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Posted by probability > 2022-09-13 16:38 | Report Abuse

aga agak numbers ok...but not agak agak feelings

agak2 numbers thats what i am providing

Posted by UlarSawa > Sep 13, 2022 4:37 PM | Report Abuse

Not agak agak then how to predict leh. Ada lesen punya analist pun pakai agak agak to TP mah. Not like this meh. Haiyoh. Correct?

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-13 16:40 | Report Abuse

Raider not shorting lah. He is saving AhFah son from gambling HY lah. Haiyoh. Correct?


dompeilee

Raider already short HY & trying to shout it DOWN to make a profit...probability, others & myself already long HY & hoping it will go up...let's see who wins by Dec '22

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BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-13 16:40 |

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-13 16:43 | Report Abuse

Wei Ular not a begger leh. Ular no need to buy pun can help yo shout mah. If HY at rm3.00 Ular will shout. Mari Mari Jualan Murah Murah HY on lelong price. Once in a full moon baru dapat lelong price mah. Haiyoh. Correct?


BobAxelrod

Ular cannot by at 3.00, we are all beggars....hehehehe

UlarSawa

If rm3.00 ular kenot buy pun will ask all at here to buy lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

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BobAxelrod

Ular cannot by at 3.00, we are all beggars....hehehehe

UlarSawa

If rm3.00 ular kenot buy pun will ask all at here to buy lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

7 seconds ago

sharemarket21

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Posted by sharemarket21 > 2022-09-13 16:43 | Report Abuse

Let the newcomers and newbies who have entered at the right timing to comment here. It's more refreshing. The one and few cults who have been spamming and scamming during the few peaks and roasting until now should stayed aside observe and learn from the amateur here.

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-13 16:44 | Report Abuse

Sound like you are preparing for wet wet very long liao leh. Haiyoh. Correct?


deMusangking

If the share price can cross 4.71, the worst may be over.

Then I will have to keep on changing panttees
as I will be wet wet song song!!!

haha

2 minutes ago

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-13 16:47 | Report Abuse

Forum many are super promoters and super penkritik bikin reban long ago lah. Newbies want to comment pun no time slot for them to comment leh. The oldies occupying the prime time already lah. Left after midnite ads empty slots for newbies to comment lah. Haiyoh. Correct?


sharemarket21

Let the newcomers and newbies who have entered at the right timing to comment here. It's more refreshing. The one and few cults who have been spamming and scamming during the few peaks and roasting until now should stayed aside observe and learn from the amateur here.

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BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-13 16:48 |

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-13 16:49 | Report Abuse

Ular no money to buy HY leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

BobAxelrod

I said if Ular cannot afford to buy at 3.00, then all of us (are so much poorer) are beggars......comprende?

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-13 16:51 | Report Abuse

Your pantees size should be xxxl size one right. Ada ex stock lagi lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

deMusangking

certainly lah! now buying pantteess!
departmental stores may run out of panttees!

haha

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BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-13 16:52 | Report Abuse

Nice to see C24 squeeze IB's balls......hahaha

Jerichomy

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Posted by Jerichomy > 2022-09-13 16:53 |

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Jerichomy

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Posted by Jerichomy > 2022-09-13 16:54 | Report Abuse

Wong Thean Soon founder of myeg

Jerichomy

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Posted by Jerichomy > 2022-09-13 16:56 |

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-13 16:58 | Report Abuse

You ada judi myeg kah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Jerichomy

Dah all of you pegi myeg and still in HY. Why waste time here.

Sifu otb cannot beat Wong Thean Soon, Ex IBM director hahahah

3 minutes ago

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-13 16:59 | Report Abuse

MM was defeated and ran back to the cave hiding now. Haiyoh. Correct?


Jerichomy

Hahahaha MM where are you?!!

1 minute ago

Jerichomy

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Posted by Jerichomy > 2022-09-13 17:05 |

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Sharewire

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Posted by Sharewire > 2022-09-13 17:12 | Report Abuse

Qtr 3 is the hengyuan take over sky

Sharewire

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Posted by Sharewire > 2022-09-13 17:13 | Report Abuse

Hengyuan had potential to go 6-8x

Sharewire

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Posted by Sharewire > 2022-09-13 17:15 | Report Abuse

Hedging was design to protect volatility
of oil price

Sharewire

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Posted by Sharewire > 2022-09-13 17:16 | Report Abuse

All the dog and puppy are in hengyuan!

tehka

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Posted by tehka > 2022-09-13 17:27 | Report Abuse

Moneymakers is only appear in forum shouting sell when IDSS volume is high. Today IDSS only 50 lots, thus, no Moneymakers

UlarSawa

MM was defeated and ran back to the cave hiding now. Haiyoh. Correct?

anthonytkh

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Posted by anthonytkh > 2022-09-13 17:33 | Report Abuse

Lol probability wants to know the truth

Truth’s been there for 5 to 7 years when it comes to the company. Truth’s been there for the past 5 months when it comes to the share price

Trade it like I said before

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