I think choobee...will surpass CSC next week loh.....!! Choobee has great balance sheet, profits and cashflow whereas CSC only have good cashflow only loh....!!
Valuation Choobee much undervalue as compare to CSC loh....!!
An Ah Pek keep on nagging CSCSTEEL management to do this do that so the management pissed off and report a surprisingly bad result to get rid of him. Same goes to Gadang. Same goes to Latitude.
pribability: im thinkin about possiblity, i know that cscsteel directly import their steel from their holding company. is it because of their steel imported effected by the implementation of import duty?
Yes stockraider, choobee is very undervalue with its balance sheet... it already provide us a great margin of safety before we invest.. anyway, this investing style doesn't fit "dynamic investing"
Pingdan...if you see their report below (CSCSTEL), they can't even raise their selling price (CRC) despite the huge rise in HRC - their raw materials as we all know from the graph of sunsirs.com...it had risen phenomenally...
This partly answers why those local CRC buyers who make their whatever end product out of it...still can afford to improve or maintain their marginx.....as always it is the end consumer who dictates and the profit margin has to rise first (becomes reasonable) from the downstream END PRODUCT PRODUCERS like Choo Bee (Steel Tubes), Prestar (Railings), Southern Steel (Rebars), etc...before it can trickle to midstream ( CSCSTEL , MYCRON) and the upstream manufacturers eventually.
CSCSTEL report current qtr vs preceeding:
The Group’s revenue has increased by 11.4% from RM257.6 million in the preceding quarter to RM286.9 million this quarter. The increase in revenue is due to significant increase in the sales volume albeit at marginally lower selling prices of all our steel products. The Group registered a significantly lower profit before tax of RM7.9 million this quarter compared with RM24.8 million achieved in the previous quarter due mainly to substantially higher cost of production due to higher raw materials cost exacerbated by rapidly weakening Ringgit vis-à -vis US Dollar during the quarter under review.
Posted by pingdan > Feb 17, 2017 07:06 PM | Report Abuse
pribability: im thinkin about possiblity, i know that cscsteel directly import their steel from their holding company. is it because of their steel imported effected by the implementation of import duty?
manufacturers like CSCSTEL has a plant capacity to fill-up...they can't afford to run idle....so they dont mind absorbing all the margin damage...unlike traders or the end clients who has inventory store to starve their hunger for a moment and dictate the price they want.
Strong earnings growth to around 0.22 per share TTM. If there is no more erratic growth, the price will be uptrend!!! Strong fundamental of NCAV n NNWC of 2.60 n 1.80 respectively. Strong TTM Free Cash Flow of whopping above 1.00 per share. Fantastic Cash Cow at present!!! Will outperform!!! Good luck!!!
Koon Yew Yin really 'good business sense', so far chinwel,flbhd,gadang,cscsteel have not done well after his recommendations, can anyone tell me any of his recent recommendations done well?
We speak fact loh.....!! Choobee such a fine company strong balance sheet with close to Rm 100m cash.....!! Strong profits and growth.....!! Nta more than Rm 4.00....sure got big margin of safety and very good what ?
Sometimes old ppl are like that, we might behave like him when we are at his age, who knows!! Let's enloy the Choo Bee show this coming Monday. Anyway thanks again raider for your advice on magni few months ago.
cost of sales to revenue Q4: 84.6% Q3: 85.2% Q2: 79.04% Q1: 88.9%
2016 reported earning: Q4: 7,482 (incld: net forex gain +2,673) Q3: 4,428 (incld: net forex gain +42) Q2: 9,953 (incld: net forex gain +588) Q1: 2,852 (incld: net forex loss - 206
yistock...you should note that CB is till operating below ~ 45% of their rated Manufacturing capacity. Considering this Potential growth coupled with the already compressed margin currently...means it is a superb investment now.
the only question is liquidity...can you acquire it at the qty & price u need.
Posted by YiStock > Feb 18, 2017 11:57 AM | Report Abuse
2016 full year:
cost of sales to revenue Q4: 84.6% Q3: 85.2% Q2: 79.04% Q1: 88.9%
2016 reported earning: Q4: 7,482 (incld: net forex gain +2,673) Q3: 4,428 (incld: net forex gain +42) Q2: 9,953 (incld: net forex gain +588) Q1: 2,852 (incld: net forex loss - 206
Probability, you are absolutely right. Investment is about buy low sell high.
Posted by probability > Feb 18, 2017 12:29 PM | Report Abuse
yistock...you should note that CB is till operating below ~ 45% of their rated Manufacturing capacity. Considering this Potential growth coupled with the already compressed margin currently...means it is a superb investment now.
the only question is liquidity...can you acquire it at the qty & price u need.
First level thinking: property and construction sector is slowing down revenue will go down. Second level thinking: my analaysis tell me that gross margin will increase compare before q2, this company will be profitable. Common sense thinking: oh wait, buying this company is still cheap right now even with market weak demand and sales.
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geary > Feb 18, 2017 01:31 PM | Report Abuse
Bill n Melinda Gates identify the secret to Warren Buffett's success, n science agrees! The secret is his unceasing Optimism. "Optimism is a huge Asset." Bill n Melinda Gates foundation's annual letter. "We see this in you Warren. Your success didn't create your Optimism, your Optimism led to your success." "No matter where things are right now, he knows in the long run they are getting better." Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has more than 50% of Berkshire in its portfolio's of more than 10 companies. What a conviction to invest more than half of their money into BRK!!!
I have never seen any accountant look at things without thinking of figures. All accountants are commonly well known to see everything in figures. Yes, EVERYTHING.
If someone claimed himself as accountant but never talk figure, that's extremely suspicious. Either he is liar or he is just an admin clerk, merely know how to key in invoices into accounting system.
I have never seen stockmanmy talk figures, everything he talked is DYNAMIC, it means nothing & empty, no one know what he is talking about, only he himself know what is that meaning.
If DYNAMIC investment is something in his mind without any supporting from figures or something can not be told, then it is just another rubbish theory no one will ever understand except stockmanmy himself.
Don't talk about feng shui, taiji, yingyang in investment, all are rubbish. DYNAMIC investment is no different to those things that want to make simple thing looked complicated.
From all comments from stockmanmy, he is just purely loyal fan to KYY & will defend KYY with his own life. So, I wonder if this stockmanmy is actually KYY
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Posted by stockraider > 2017-02-17 18:15 | Report Abuse
I think choobee...will surpass CSC next week loh.....!!
Choobee has great balance sheet, profits and cashflow whereas CSC only have good cashflow only loh....!!
Valuation Choobee much undervalue as compare to CSC loh....!!