YINSON HOLDINGS BHD

KLSE (MYR): YINSON (7293)

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Last Price

2.38

Today's Change

-0.02 (0.83%)

Day's Change

2.38 - 2.40

Trading Volume

2,767,400


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4,272 comment(s). Last comment by jocabis 4 days ago

nikicheong

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Posted by nikicheong > 2022-03-31 14:05 | Report Abuse

Fantastic write-up cruger, thanks for sharing!

Calvin882

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Posted by Calvin882 > 2022-03-31 15:46 | Report Abuse

73% upside? Lol.. I only need half of it.

bang_miskin

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Posted by bang_miskin > 2022-03-31 16:04 | Report Abuse

this counter quite stable. Buy the dip. 73% upside is a high expectation. Can reached up to RM6 also good enough

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-03-31 16:10 | Report Abuse

from what you see a share that drop from RM6.2+ to RM4.5 in few months can call "stable"? dropped about 30%

bang_miskin

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Posted by bang_miskin > 2022-03-31 16:14 | Report Abuse

@flytothemoon Yeah sure, already dropped 30%. Question here is will it drop by another 30%. You seemed pretty negative with this counter, lol.

Calvin882

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Posted by Calvin882 > 2022-03-31 16:14 | Report Abuse

Just look at the bigger picture. Long term wise was generally stable and performing. The drop was actually a good opportunity to buy in.

Calvin882

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Posted by Calvin882 > 2022-03-31 16:23 | Report Abuse

Investing in stock is always about opportunity > risk. Just go for it and patiently wait for return whenever opportunity > risk

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-03-31 16:28 | Report Abuse

it could be same as serba

bang_miskin

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Posted by bang_miskin > 2022-03-31 16:47 | Report Abuse

@Calvin882 exactly had I have more spare cash available, would have bought more when it was at RM4.50, well few small lots is better than nothing average down a bit. Compare to the other stocks in my portfolio, this one is quite stable.

vcinvestor

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Posted by vcinvestor > 2022-03-31 16:49 | Report Abuse

@flytothemoon you're so uncreative with your comparisons

Calvin882

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Posted by Calvin882 > 2022-03-31 16:53 | Report Abuse

@flytothemoon, how could you compare Yinson which has proven business model and solid foundation with a company which was selling dreams?

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-03-31 16:58 | Report Abuse

vcinvestor,comparison also need to be creative?lol

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-03-31 17:01 | Report Abuse

calvin882, yinson is selling dream, correct, but over expansion until the debt is too high, it is very dangerous especially when interest rate going up, the short seller is aiming yinson at this point so you can see the % of short selling keep increasing

Calvin882

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Posted by Calvin882 > 2022-03-31 17:01 | Report Abuse

@bang_miskin, you will never know. May hesitant to buy more too if I feel have enough position in a counter too. Always prefer to diversity my portfolio. Generally I think selling is the last option now as the market is gradually recovering.

bang_miskin

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Posted by bang_miskin > 2022-03-31 17:26 | Report Abuse

Yeah of course, once your reached your target, no reason to add more. For me Yinson is around 5%. Don't plan to add beyond 10% unless it is flying to the moon :) Agree to keep a diversified portfolio. With the economy slowly recovering, doesn't hurt to invest a little in every industry.

Posted by LongTermInvestor8 > 2022-03-31 18:06 | Report Abuse

flytothemoon, about RM2B of Yinson's debt is in perpetual securities or susuk. They are fixed rate with step up rates. Rising interest rate does not have much effect on Yinson's debt.

Some of Yinson's debt does not start servicing until they've completed the FPSO, which means Yinson will only start servicing the debt for FPSO Anna Nery and FPSO Atlanta once they completed the project.

- US100 million perpetual securities with coupon rate of 7.85% due on October 2022. 500bps step up rate upon first call date.
- US120 million perpetual securities with coupon rate of 8.1% due on March 2024. 500bps step up rate upon first call date.
- RM950 million perpetual susuk with coupon rate of 6.8% due in 2033. 100bps step up rate upon first call date.

Posted by LongTermInvestor8 > 2022-03-31 19:14 | Report Abuse

flytothemoon reminds me of PearlWhite in Serba Dinamik, initially PearlWhite was anti-serba, kept on bad mouthing Serba for months, then out of the blue PearlWhite became pro serba, you know i know why lah, that pearlwhite guy thinks by bad mouthing serba he can push the price down and then become pro he can push the price up in i3.

flytothemoon also the same, thinks he got some kind of magical power can influence the stock price and movement.

bang_miskin

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Posted by bang_miskin > 2022-03-31 19:37 | Report Abuse

Want to influence Yinson price can wan. Day day pray to La Tok Kong hope price fall kuat2. Better yet, make a connection with a real La Tok (Datuk), let him short this counter kuat2.

Calvin882

1,562 posts

Posted by Calvin882 > 2022-03-31 20:31 | Report Abuse

@flytothemoon, what's wrong with high borrowing if a company able to make enough to serve those borrowings? The banks wouldn't approve the borrowing if they have no confidence on the expansion plan. I rather invest in a growing company with borrowing rather than a net cash company with no plans to grow.

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-03-31 20:49 | Report Abuse

serba and sapura bank also borrowed alot of money to them, but they are going bankrupt

Posted by LongTermInvestor8 > 2022-03-31 21:07 | Report Abuse

yeah, like this pmetal also going to bankrupt soon, look at their debt. TheStar Media got 0 debt, maybe flytothemoon can invest all in thestar.

grow up lah, you are here to bad mouth thinking you have power to push the price down. i bet in real life your ego is as big as a watermelon.

kl_guy

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Posted by kl_guy > 2022-03-31 22:12 | Report Abuse

looking forward for rm7 before bonus ex-date .

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-03-31 22:20 | Report Abuse

ya, i bad mouth until the price fall from 6.2 to 4+, at least i negative and successfully made the price down, and you positive with poor share price result, you feel comfortable then let it be lo, poor guy

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-04-01 08:58 | Report Abuse

yinson short selling up 2 position again, now got 1% , by this month sure can win topglove, dayang, kossan

kl_guy

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Posted by kl_guy > 2022-04-01 09:10 | Report Abuse

today closing with a doji.

Calvin882

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Posted by Calvin882 > 2022-04-01 10:11 | Report Abuse

@flytothemoon, just spend some time to read on the purpose of those borrowings. Sure you can see the difference.

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-04-01 10:36 | Report Abuse

calvin882, just spend some time to calculate the interest rate vs income sure you can see the difference, from what you said I am pretty sure you didnt run a company so you dont know from history how many good companies died after US increase interest rate and money flow back to USA, cash flow is everything, even giving little amount of dividend Yinson also need to drag til August, what do you think? lol

kl_guy

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Posted by kl_guy > 2022-04-01 11:29 | Report Abuse

already traded 370k , 160k is Short sell share . I wonder how many more RSS share available to short. Yinson taukeh won't want ppl to push the price down when bonus and right issue on the way.

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-04-01 11:40 | Report Abuse

yinson taukeh of course wont want ppl push the price down, but facing big shark utilising his weakness to short selling he can do anything? just like topglove 80% value shorted by shark, his taukeh can do what?

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-04-04 16:42 | Report Abuse

rubbish share short selling share increased again, highest among all the oil and gas share, good luck shareholder

kl_guy

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Posted by kl_guy > 2022-04-04 16:47 | Report Abuse

RSS 200k today. Look like no one willing to sell.
Have to pinjam RSS to push down the price. I wonder who borrow out the share ? EPF or gambler shareholder?

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-04-04 16:53 | Report Abuse

top No 6 in short selling list, increase 0.01% again, even KNM also lower than Yinson, better careful, all the sign showing that it could be second serba

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-04-04 16:55 | Report Abuse

everyday ESOS ESOS, every month few times, now even own employee money also wanna cheat already?

Rwkl

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Posted by Rwkl > 2022-04-05 21:29 | Report Abuse

Very quiet today......no reports of increase in short selling today?

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-04-06 08:29 | Report Abuse

yeap, today increased 0.05% again, now is top 5 just 0.01% lower than kossan, today should be turning no 4

kl_guy

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Posted by kl_guy > 2022-04-06 09:49 | Report Abuse

a lot of RSS share dump at 5.05. Can today close above 5.05 ?

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-04-06 10:23 | Report Abuse

kl_guy , how do you see RSS share dump at 5.05 or you are just guessing?

kl_guy

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Posted by kl_guy > 2022-04-06 15:13 | Report Abuse

saw short selling volume increase to 20k when transaction done at rm5.05. assume 5.05

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-04-07 09:34 | Report Abuse

rarely see yinson got defend the share from dropping, it supposingly drop everyday, lol

kl_guy

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Posted by kl_guy > 2022-04-07 10:54 | Report Abuse

look like yinson price held back by epf. epf disposing. same as dialog tak boleh naik

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-04-07 11:20 | Report Abuse

the selling block suddenly disappeared, last few months everyday few thousands

kl_guy

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Posted by kl_guy > 2022-04-07 11:41 | Report Abuse

last 2 day to push yinson before ex-date. Don't push now , might not have chance bcos after bonus , mostly will sell and subscribe right issue.

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-04-07 12:33 | Report Abuse

seems like back to uptrend

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-04-07 12:33 | Report Abuse

if still dont push the price, find ghost to subscribe the right issue

Calvin882

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Posted by Calvin882 > 2022-04-07 16:13 | Report Abuse

It has shown clear uptrend four days ago

kl_guy

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Posted by kl_guy > 2022-04-07 16:23 | Report Abuse

RSS all out to push the price lower. volume 600K, 140K is from Short selling.
Uptrend is strong . Force is with you.

kl_guy

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Posted by kl_guy > 2022-04-07 16:34 | Report Abuse

just RSS another 2k at 5.16 . someone really want yinson to stay low. maybe big boy want subscribe right issue cheap cheap

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-04-07 16:40 | Report Abuse

last time the block of short seller is very huge, now all gone, trap or time for them to buy back?

kl_guy

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Posted by kl_guy > 2022-04-07 16:50 | Report Abuse

I think the RSS share (borrow share ) has dry up . No more in hand. can't push down more. If prediction is correct . yinson management has power to push up with share buy back .

kl_guy

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Posted by kl_guy > 2022-04-07 17:01 | Report Abuse

total 195K sell volume , 176K is from RSS share( borrow share).
Today main seller is the someone (RSS seller) which want to keep yinson down.
Look like there is thug of war between 2 party .

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