Other people may believe this company is cooking so much order book. Personally I don't believe this news.
RexKing What good news you can expect from a company which cooking the book. Everything is all fake... Just cheating investor money only to running the company.
I also believe institution did their due diligence once the accounting on order book arises few months back. They would have sell all their share already before suspension.
To cook order book is not as easy as you think. The company borrow money from bank. Bank had to check the aunthecity of the Letter of Award for each project before borrowing. You mean that LOA are fake. Of all the institution, the hardest to cheat is the bank.
No one is going to jail lah. Just pay some fines and keep the change.Minority Shareholders can write some articles to 'EDUCATE' the public. Then, nothing happens. The players may change but the story will never change. Example Transmile
Kesian itu Mabel 60+ longkang ah kua 444 ,body :38 38 43 Miss Malaysia wrote articles till over 12pm and woke up at before 6am .How to sleep like a baby... Lost a lot of $ and insomnia every day... haha
At times, I just wonder people are either gullible or just lack intelligent thoughts? Negative after negative news people still pinning hopes on this counter except that those who got caught in the big way, that I don't blame you.
Posted by superrr > Dec 20, 2021 2:10 PM | Report Abuse
Why not easy? they have been cooking books for many years and got a lot of banks loan...
Maybe you go and try borrow from the bank if you think is easy. Small amount may be easy, when come to hundreds of millions. Not one person decision. Due diligence must be in place. I am not promoting but there are the thing we need to consider rather than believing just from one source.
superrr Why not easy ? they have been cooking book for many years and got a lot of banks loan...
Due diligence is not 100% proven that there is no book cooking. In this case, most banks had relied on the past audited accounts to approve loans, if past audited accounts were cooked then they were relying on false info to approve the loans.
Posted by Prudentinv > Dec 20, 2021 2:23 PM | Report Abuse
Maybe you go and try to borrow from the bank if you think is easy. A small amount may be easy when comes to hundreds of millions. Not one person's decision. Due diligence must be in place. I am not promoting but there is the thing we need to consider rather than believing just from one source.
super Why not easy? they have been cooking books for many years and got a lot of banks loan...
Maybe true approve loan due to past audit account but major bank need the LOA to confirm. But our project Loan need LOA.
Someone from bank need to verify this.
If you are saying bank base on audited account. Then who did the audited account previously? Should that party be held responsible?
alenac Due diligence is not 100% proven that there is no book cooking. In this case, most banks had relied on the past audited accounts to approve loans, if past audited accounts were cooked then they were relying on false info to approve the loans
Pru just a SD promoter la…. If bankers so smart & can do own due diligence, how come had to freeze accounts & can get caught with defaulted coupon payment? Hahaha
If I am a banker, I would approve a loan plus a personal guarantee of a director cum major shareholder, even though it is a public listed company. This is what China regulators would do to China property billionaires whose companies are in debt.
Posted by Prudentinv > Dec 20, 2021 2:45 PM | Report Abuse
Maybe true approve loan due to past audit account but major bank need the LOA to confirm. But our project Loan need LOA.
Someone from bank need to verify this.
If you are saying bank base on audited account. Then who did the audited account previously? Should that party be held responsible?
Banker are full of professional and not easy to cheat. As far as I know they wanted double security. I have experience with them on project so really not easy.
superrr My accountant friends said: many listed companies more or less will do some cooking book. it is very normal , but not like sd was cooking too much.
Bankers usually ask for 1st fixed charge collateral and floating charge on all the assets from A to Z and want to be secured creditors in 1st ranking priority of liquidation.
Hence,Bond and private placements are more preferable and favourable to PLC.
Secondly I am not convince with 3.5bill amount that red flag by Auditor. Can this figure be cook in one to one and a half year? Of course not possible.
Why didn't the auditor pick this up in the previous financial report? If what they claim the figure is true, investor will definitely sue them for negligence.
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Posted by Prudentinv > 2021-12-20 12:49 | Report Abuse
Other people may believe this company is cooking so much order book. Personally I don't believe this news.
RexKing What good news you can expect from a company which cooking the book. Everything is all fake... Just cheating investor money only to running the company.