Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-01-02 00:22 | Report Abuse

Dear Mr Tan,

Please use up all remaining money to buy Genetec.
Thank you.
Ooi

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-02 00:26 | Report Abuse

ok

Ooi Teik Bee Dear Mr Tan,

Please use up all remaining money to buy Genetec.
Thank you.
Ooi
02/01/2016 00:22

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-02 00:27 | Report Abuse

@OTB, this round is difference... you should have write access to this portfolio for your to buy more shares or add in the dividend

read detail @ http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/stock_pick_2016/88953.jsp

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-01-02 00:41 | Report Abuse

Dear Tan,
I prefer to use up all money.
Thank you.
Ooi

Posted by ahdi > 2016-01-02 08:42 | Report Abuse

Dear otb, I'm one of your subscriber last year. You mentioned that Hohup was one of your 2016 stock pick but how come it is not under the list ? Is Hohup not doing well ? Why you didn't tell us to cut loss when you give up Hohup ? Thx

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-02 11:04 | Report Abuse

@inwest88, read http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/stock_pick_2016/88293.jsp

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-02 11:12 | Report Abuse

the one loss the most $.... what's yr view?

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-02 11:18 | Report Abuse

what's yr suggestion on the criteria?

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-02 11:27 | Report Abuse

nope. we are not selecting the losers as "winners". just trying to help the one loss $ in stock investment

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-02 11:28 | Report Abuse

mostly i will select 3 of them who loss the most money

Posted by 爱丽丝 梦幻世界 > 2016-01-02 11:33 | Report Abuse

My opinion, 3 Loser not mean last 3 from bottom. We can consider whoever pick make -ve return as loser? Then we choose the top 3 that -ve in return as 'winner' OTB prize?

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-02 11:45 | Report Abuse

@爱丽丝 梦幻世界 ????? is it same with "mostly i will select 3 of them who loss the most money"

Posted by 爱丽丝 梦幻世界 > 2016-01-02 11:50 | Report Abuse

Tan KW, ya it same & OTB got mentioned let you decide the 3 loser... mean any 3?

Posted by 爱丽丝 梦幻世界 > 2016-01-02 11:57 | Report Abuse

Sample:
A 30% return (Winner)
B 20% return
C 5% return
D 0%
E -3% (Loser's Winner)
F -5%
G -7%
H -10%
I -15%
J -20%

I mean choose E,F & G as loser's winner

Posted by jilohhuat > 2016-01-02 16:19 | Report Abuse

Invest88 , what you said made a lot of sense, first time I came across a contest where the winner is not the best of the lot but the worst. OTB objective to reward the loser is commendable cos his sponsored prize may be useful to loser than to those who are good at stock pickings. Maybe winners should be rewarded in other ways , just my humble view.

Posted by imoogi99 > 2016-01-02 16:56 | Report Abuse

Basically boil down to the rules and regulations. In the game of badminton, some organizers do organize a loser plate ie all first round of losers will put into a draw and fight it out again among themselves. Champion of this first round losers do win prizes as well. Of course the prize will not be as grand of par with the real champion/runners of the main tournament.

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-01-02 19:03 |

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-01-02 19:05 |

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-01-02 19:08 |

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Posted by ahdi > 2016-01-02 19:31 | Report Abuse

Thank you very much. Will hold it .

Posted by confuse > 2016-01-02 22:14 | Report Abuse

So the huge number in this year participation is due to many try purposely to lose than win? Sound logical also.

Posted by inwest88 > Jan 2, 2016 09:54 PM | Report Abuse

OTB - thanks for your kind understanding and accepting my view on awarding the prizes to the "real" winners. The criteria to determine the top 3 in this category is simple, clear and straightforward - just based on the highest returns at the close of trading on 31st December 2016 as what we did last year.

As to how to award the prizes in the losers category I rather not get involved as I reckon it can only bring more "harm" than good. Just my thoughts.

Thanks.

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-01-02 23:51 | Report Abuse

Dear Mr Tan,

I noticed that I had made a serious mistake in my selection, I wish to swap Fibon with Tecguan. I prefer Tecguan than Fibon.
Please help and allow me to make this change.

Thank you.
Ooi

Posted by JeevS > 2016-01-03 00:53 | Report Abuse

Hi OTB, can you sponsor me?

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-03 11:44 | Report Abuse

@inwest88 @爱丽丝 梦幻世界 @jilohhuat @imoogi99

Thanks for your comment.

(1) The winner is the one who get the #1 on the contest. We pick the stock and hope to make money. The winner will be reward by its investment return and no prize given (in fact, there is no prize on this contest until OTB does us a favor & sponsor it - thanks OTB)
(2) I suggest OTB to help the one loss $ but not the one make $. The one make $ should have $ to pay OTB if he want OTB research. OTB is charging less than 1k, it is less than 1% from a 100k portfolio.
(3) OTB research to the loser is not a reward but is to help them to make better investment decision.

@OTB, thanks for 3 more prize....

@inwest88, still have 1 more year... we can make the decision when times come by.... feel free to think how it goes...

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-03 11:44 | Report Abuse

ok.

Ooi Teik Bee Dear Mr Tan,

I noticed that I had made a serious mistake in my selection, I wish to swap Fibon with Tecguan. I prefer Tecguan than Fibon.
Please help and allow me to make this change.

Thank you.
Ooi
02/01/2016 23:51

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-03 11:49 | Report Abuse

@JeevS, you make almost 50% on year 2015.....



Hi OTB, can you sponsor me?



Posted by JeevS at Jan 3, 2016 12:53 AM

Posted by hawkeye > 2016-01-03 13:48 | Report Abuse

Invest88...u hv my full support...instead of giving d prizes to d losers why not give it to d winners of those in d self managed portfolio...such a good response from them.

Posted by richard88 > 2016-01-03 13:52 | Report Abuse

Giving award to loser? Whose idea is this?
Got use brain to think?

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-03 14:18 | Report Abuse

@inwest88, i respect yr decision. thx for yr contribution.

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-03 14:18 | Report Abuse

it's my idea

richard88 Giving award to loser? Whose idea is this?
Got use brain to think?
03/01/2016 13:52

Posted by richard88 > 2016-01-03 14:24 | Report Abuse

U can propose to OTB and KYY, c they laugh at u or not.
If pick loser, i choose XOX, CSL, Xingquan, KSTAR, Xidelang.
U want sponsor me award?
kakaka

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-03 14:27 | Report Abuse

yes, otb agree to sponsor. but, I wont sponsor u.

richard88 U can propose to OTB and KYY, c they laugh at u or not.
If pick loser, i choose XOX, CSL, Xingquan, KSTAR, Xidelang.
U want sponsor me award?
kakaka
03/01/2016 14:24

Posted by richard88 > 2016-01-03 14:28 | Report Abuse

Why wont sponsor me, double standard?

Posted by DnsLeong > 2016-01-03 14:30 | Report Abuse

Support fully to inwest88. A competition is to compete to win. Winner justified to be rewarded. Loser shall learn from the hardway or else competition is meaningless.

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-03 14:33 | Report Abuse

I will use my own judgement to look for someone who can be help

richard88 Why wont sponsor me, double standard?
03/01/2016 14:28

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-03 14:34 | Report Abuse

@OTB, it seem no one support the idea to help the loser in the contest.

pls let me know if you still want to sponsor it?

Posted by richard88 > 2016-01-03 14:49 | Report Abuse

I support !!!
Please sponsor me.

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-01-03 15:05 |

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Posted by DnsLeong > 2016-01-03 15:06 | Report Abuse

That's a smart statement
"I will sponsor 3 prizes for 3 winners.

I PERSONALLY will give a price to the loser according to Mr Tan's pick. The reason for this prize is to help this loser to improve his/her performance."
Great idea and a noble one.
Fully support OTB.

Posted by chriswang > 2016-01-03 15:37 | Report Abuse

hi, may someone kind to clarify is that true? that the self managed portfolio winners are not entitled to prizes?

Posted by hawkeye > Jan 3, 2016 01:48 PM | Report Abuse

Invest88...u hv my full support...instead of giving d prizes to d losers why not give it to d winners of those in d self managed portfolio...such a good response from them.

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-03 16:45 | Report Abuse

@OTB, ok...

maybe let 1st runner on self manage to get the prize...

i give up my idea since there is no support

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-01-03 16:51 | Report Abuse

Dear Mr Tan and inwest88,

I agreed to give the first prize winner of self manage group like 2015.

Please proceed.

Thank you.
Ooi

Posted by Tan KW > 2016-01-03 16:56 | Report Abuse

ok....



Ooi Teik Bee Dear Mr Tan and inwest88,

I agreed to give the first prize winner of self manage group like 2015.

Please proceed.

Thank you.
Ooi
03/01/2016 16:51

Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-01-03 16:59 | Report Abuse

Ooi Teik Bee please give at least 5 prizes

Not only for 2016, but also 2015

I was number 5 in 2015, sob sob

Posted by Probability > 2016-01-03 17:00 | Report Abuse

For the objective of educating 'losers who had sincerely tried to win' (note: there is a difference between these with those who intentionally tried to lose)..by rewarding them a free subscription:

I suggest... the next 3 losers who are behind OTB. This should solve the sincerity dilemma. Perhaps Inwest88 might agree on this.

Reward for top 3 winners should be something way better.

Posted by paperplane2016 > 2016-01-03 17:39 | Report Abuse

Icon, you need to ask top10 for 2016. Later u cant get top5 ask again otb, no good loh.

Posted by Probability > 2016-01-03 20:05 | Report Abuse

Ya laa..I can empathize with inwest88...we should just make it simple:
(1) winners get the price
(2) and there should be a limit to the number of participants

too many 'optimus like' participants already...I think we should award the person who is doing all the computations the most!

Posted by paperplane2016 > 2016-01-03 20:06 | Report Abuse

Inwest88, you have done a great jobs, especially your analysis. If we can have a general view such as what stocks contestant picks, what sector etc, it is good.anyway I hope to see you in future here also, your help in here is unmatch

Posted by Stockwatch > 2016-01-04 00:04 | Report Abuse

invest88

I do hope you can contribute in other ways really...your thoughts and contributions for 2016.I am sure you will miss the actions if you stay out of the game...it is in your blood really....there is no denying that.With a hefty number of participants in the self managed category I will not be surprised a number of pink swans will emerge from this block.
Let the show begins.

Posted by whack > 2016-01-04 00:36 | Report Abuse

inwest88, you're a man with principle. you got my support.