---- Excerpts here ---- [ 8) Since the future is bright in renewable energy & the fundamental is strong this is the time to buy Kpower while cheap
9) Calvin thinks after the noise & dust are settled Kpower should rise up to Rm1.00. From there it will continue to move higher and higher as more and more people discover its potential in the Renewable Energy Sphere which is the Future of Clean Green Energy due to climate change
Best Regards
Calvin Tan Research
Please do your own due diigence before buying or selling. In double please consult your Remisier or Fund Manager. ]
I believe RSS is preplanned. When I see VS insiders cashing out at peak I thought that was unusual, with warrants premiums decreasing very fast each day. Sure enough today news VS is under investigaion
This sifu calvin need to understand the ultimate concept of value investment mah!
Take advantage of Mr Market & do not let him take advantage of u mah!
THE KEY WORDS IS;
"Pls do not be affected by short term Mr Market action loh!"
Learn from sifu NEOH....invest base on fundamental like insas & take advantage of MR MARKET mah!
This silly sifu calvin palmoil price also crash mah!
Pls do not affected by short term Mr Market action loh!
Learn from sifu NEOH....invest base on fundamental like insas mah!
FYI sifu Neoh already start accumulating insas due to good margin of safety & good prospect...although he has not reach the TOP 30 position previously loh!
Lu Tau Boh ?
Posted by calvintaneng > Dec 2, 2021 12:59 PM | Report Abuse
What is fair value in investment sense? You cannot even say what is fair. Supermax PE at 3 is it fair? Tesla PE in hundreds is it fair? Value is a perception. Is Insas undervalue, i dont so, is Inari overvalue i dont think so. All is about perception. The smart one say future PE but what future results are all prediction, no more than that.
Calvin shouts plantation stock are undervalue, which i believe so- due to scarcity of land labor and increase in population. Calvin, the sector you are in was under spotlight from foreign fund managers who targetted the sector through ESG- will the sector really outperform in share price, i dont believe so. Stockraider, your Insas, will not be 5 Ringgit or even 10 if Inari becomes 10. You are buying a counter that is very small in relative sense as it is an investment company. Foreign funds will not buy Insas but buy Inari as Inari has bigger exposure and has a chance in enter the composite index. Buy what people is interested and not the actual value. The underlying value and people perception will determine share price. Look back at last year glove where high PE still attract people to buy but with current low PE people sell like it is the next bust.
In investing, fair value is a reference to the asset's price, as determined by a willing seller and buyer. So fair value of Insas as of today is RM 1.00.
In financial analysis, intrinsic value is the calculation of an asset's worth based on a financial model. The most common method is DCF model.
My question should we took the standard definition of intrinsic value wholeheartedly: Intrinsic value is the Present value of the investment of all the expected cash flow over the lifetime discounted at the appropriate discount rate. Or question the definition why equity part of asset or at least the current assets minus total liabilities should be added to this intrinsic value? In this case the intrinsic value of INSAS is Liquid assets – total liabilities + (CF1/ (1+d)^1) + (CF2/(1+d)^2) + ----- +(CFn/(1+d)^n) Where: CF = Cash Flow in the Period d = Discount rate n = The period number This Intrinsic value is actually a Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) Example of intrinsic value of INSAS is then the Sum of DCF expected cash flow from varies business streams.
For INSAS assets rich case, it is my opinion that the liquid assets minus total liabilities should be added to this intrinsic value.
As of glove the fact are ASP coming down. China building up capicity in billions just within very short period of time. Many new small glove plants will not have the economy of scale to survive the competition.
That is the reason why Insas cancelled the Duramitt deal.
Fair value is what market perceive its value. All the NTA/ Cash reserve/ PE counts but what matter is the market interest in the stock. Warren Buffet use value buy in his investment but in Malaysia we use fair value. Fair value is based on market judgement. Inari will always has higher share price than Insas as it is manufacturing and thus create value. By the way i hold small holding in both companies. Thanks.
Mike, if it is trap for you then one good advice for you is dont buy. It will not trap you. But dont be a sore loser and just say sell for you to syiok yourself.
As of Inari the latest 5G phone need more RF and self driving car also need RF chipsets. Inari pay more for guest workers because of work productivity.
We use to see many Malay girls working in electronic factories but no more and work productivity of Malay women are low because every year they will take maternity leave.
Hope for both stocks to rise to higher value. I believe in buying good stock such as Topglove. It is hard to find budding companies to invest and earn good return. I feel Inari might be the next big thing. Another good up moving stock is Hibiscus. Any other beside that?
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Posted by Sslee > 2021-12-02 12:27 | Report Abuse
TQVM @sailang_now.
Its OK most likely the AGM already over.