Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 16:38 |

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Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-09-08 16:39 | Report Abuse

Market always looking forward, 0.75% increases in interest rate in September 2022 is already factored in the market ahead.
The correction in the US stock market is over, hope the US stock market will be bullish again.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 16:39 |

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Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-09-08 16:41 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 16:42 | Report Abuse

Crackspread pun cracked already leh. Dont use crackspread anymore lah. No one believe after 2017 lah. Tipu pun dont tipu twice lah. Suiyee pun panlai already lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by probability > 2022-09-08 16:43 | Report Abuse

wah ular...where got tipu..Q2 EPS you no see meh?

Posted by UlarSawa > Sep 8, 2022 4:42 PM | Report Abuse

Crackspread pun cracked already leh. Dont use crackspread anymore lah. No one believe after 2017 lah. Tipu pun dont tipu twice lah. Suiyee pun panlai already lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 16:46 | Report Abuse

No matter how high the crackspread no one want to believe it anymore. After 2017 goreng until charchoal lah. History lah. Orang cannot forget the painful incident lah. Even Uncle Koon also dont believe it anymore leh. Haiyoh. Correct?


Posted by probability > 12 seconds ago | Report Abuse

wah ular...where got tipu..Q2 EPS you no see meh?

Posted by UlarSawa > Sep 8, 2022 4:42 PM | Report Abuse

Crackspread pun cracked already leh. Dont use crackspread anymore lah. No one believe after 2017 lah. Tipu pun dont tipu twice lah. Suiyee pun panlai already lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 16:53 |

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Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-09-08 17:02 |

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-08 17:03 | Report Abuse

As at 30/06/22
HRC interest rate swap contracts : contract notional amount: USD 51,250,000

Posted by probability > 2022-09-08 17:03 | Report Abuse

yes, uncle Koon got fixated with gasoline crack spread and got spooked by its dive recently...

the fact is even in 2017, reason for spectacular EPS is mainly due to Diesel


Posted by UlarSawa > Sep 8, 2022 4:46 PM | Report Abuse

No matter how high the crackspread no one want to believe it anymore. After 2017 goreng until charchoal lah. History lah. Orang cannot forget the painful incident lah. Even Uncle Koon also dont believe it anymore leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 17:05 |

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Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-09-08 17:06 |

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-08 17:06 | Report Abuse

Hibby if run out of money no problem just make a cash call PP or RI

Posted by Jerichomy > 2022-09-08 17:07 |

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-08 17:16 |

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Posted by ryoyagod > 2022-09-08 17:17 | Report Abuse

road to Rm4

Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-08 17:21 | Report Abuse

By the way it is due to INSAS RI with free warrants that allowed me to cash out the PB and WC to top up INSAS until I am No. 30 in the Top 30 shareholders list

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-08 17:23 | Report Abuse

Aiyoyo Sslee, why you pi Armada, cakap ni macam leh???

Posted by Sslee > 5 minutes ago | Report Abuse
High interest rate will hit O&G earning as O&G are in high capital and working capital industries and hence high borrowing are the norm.

Posted by investor77 > 2022-09-08 17:25 | Report Abuse

Road to full year Eps of RM 5/. Then those who dont believe will miss the chance. Diesel demand will be higher as Winter approaches, Russia not exporting Fuel, Gas to Europe, and onset of Typhoon season. All unbelievers trying to cast doubts on HY so as to get cheaper price. Still agree with SsLee, Probability and Zhuge that HY will achieve incredible results on par with other refineries the world over. Not an understatement that HY can touch at least higher than RM 7.70 after results out.

Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-08 17:25 | Report Abuse

It a fact high interest rate is no good for business but good for me as my FD interest start to move up.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 17:27 |

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Posted by tehka > 2022-09-08 17:27 | Report Abuse

Dear Investor77, EPS 7.70 wow, PE 5.5 = ?? Wow. Mind is blown, dare not imagine. Hopebyou are right

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 17:28 |

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-08 17:30 | Report Abuse

As at 30/06/22
HRC interest rate swap contracts : contract notional amount: USD 51,250,000

HRC already hedged the borrowing interest rate

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-08 17:31 |

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Posted by anthonytkh > 2022-09-08 17:31 | Report Abuse

Ooh… everyone read the boasting above? I’ll ignore that person from now on…

Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-09-08 17:32 |

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Posted by lee77 > 2022-09-08 17:33 | Report Abuse

Keep dropping..............

Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-08 17:35 | Report Abuse

KUALA LUMPUR (July 6): Hengyuan Refining Company Bhd is planning to establish a RM5 billion unrated medium-term notes programme, according to the Securities Commission Malaysia’s list of corporate bonds and sukuk under the lodge and launch framework.

Notably, Aminvestment Bank Bhd and Maybank Investment Bank Bhd have been appointed as the principal advisers for the proposed corporate exercise.

If the corporate bond is well taken up then HRC will be able to retire the term loan of RM 1.5 billion.

Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-09-08 17:37 |

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-08 17:39 | Report Abuse

Income what are you trying to prove with your repeat posting of personal attack in HRC investment forum?

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 17:43 | Report Abuse

Millionaire also feel the pinch cannot afford to lose dont invest lah. You think so highly of yourself millionaire leh. Lose also no problem mah. 2017 can make yourself millionaire from HY and you want to make another million from others kah. Be careful karma leh. You vomit out the miilions you earned from HY leh. Ill gotten millions from suiyee leh. Haiyoh. Correct?



Zhuge_Liang

All those spammers and troublemakers are FAILURE as they are wasting their life on spamming , bullying people and inflicting financial harm on others. The day of reckoning will soon come!

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 17:45 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 17:47 | Report Abuse

Why HY show very fantastic QR with hundred of millions of profit leh. Want to give impression so that can get good rating for the bond issue kah. Mau tipu banker to give lower coupon rate kah. Possible kah. Haiyoh. Correct?

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-08 17:48 |

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-08 17:50 | Report Abuse

Good QR, good ratings or not, high or low coupon rates.....whatever......when 5 billion Bonds is done deal, you'll need to get up on your bicycle to chase.......hahaha

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 17:52 | Report Abuse

Hearsay is not issued by the company leh. If company issued such statement then it is no longer hearsay leh. Company ada intention to issue bond leh. It is a matter of time leh. As the debt is maturing in Jan leh. HY ada cash to pay 1.5 bil ke. Haiyoh. Correct?


BobAxelrod

Of course, it's hearsay, until deal is done and materialised. By which time, Bankers' DD would have showed Investors that HY is deserving of the 5 billion Bonds.....2 birds with one stone.

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-09-08 17:53 | Report Abuse

Refinery is high capital investment and high working capital industries the boss need to find a way to get the best borrowing either bank term loans or bond market or equity market (PP or RI)

By the way if probability earning projection in correct maybe by year end the operation cash flow can pare down the borrowing substantially.

Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-08 17:53 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 17:55 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 17:56 | Report Abuse

Ular dunno lah. Hearsay or not. By looking at it every Qtr pun debt keep increasing leh. Correct?

BobAxelrod

Hearsay means words of mouth only........anyone can say.....not done deal and Black and White....
That's hearsay..........

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-08 17:57 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 17:59 | Report Abuse

Only hope lah. Later every Qtr pun ada receivable impairment worth ribu juta per qtr leh. Why no payment HY can supply the refined products ke. Not all by LC or COD like you blow water ke. Haiyoh. Correct?


BobAxelrod

By year end to smoothen Cash Flow???.....by year end the egg has already hatched....it's now or never....
And by year end if Earning achieved......the Stock price already ripe for dinner table.

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2022-09-08 18:01 |

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 18:02 | Report Abuse

Provided you hedge correctly you can earn from the option leh. Not like HY hedging leh. Lose money worth billion pun belum closed position tunggu lagi leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

qqq3333

It's like the call options in bursa....they are so expensive, u buy all the call options u sure die fast fast

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-09-08 18:03 | Report Abuse

Hot air or not. Reflected on the share price leh. Lu tau boh. Haiyoh. Correct?


BobAxelrod

Ignore those who still hasn't grown their pubic hairs yet....they don't even begin to know what are required in International Trade of such magnitude. What are the Bank's Instruments need and what are the precautions.....just hot air...

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