HENGYUAN REFINING COMPANY BERHAD

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2.40

Today's Change

-0.06 (2.44%)

Day's Change

2.40 - 2.48

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1,022,100


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123,783 comment(s). Last comment by Vdhawan 1 day ago

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-03 11:57 | Report Abuse

Dragon,

buy growth, thats why Tesla shares are high
Ford has huge growth but shares only 11 plus

Mikecyc

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Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-10-03 11:58 |

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sharemarket21

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Posted by sharemarket21 > 2022-10-03 11:58 | Report Abuse

Focus and keep aiming for lower price. Nothing good if keep cussing. Highly educated but hiding like ghost swearing but still don't how to sell. Worse still buy more higher price. Stuck. It's not my fault the share price tumbled.

UlarSawa

35,552 posts

Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 11:58 | Report Abuse

More workers more cost leh. Can make money kah. EV battery very competitive leh. Even pure ev battery makers somealso loss making for many Qtrs leh. Getting more crowded with more big players joining the bandwagon now. Haiyoh. Correct?


i3lurker

Dragon

Ford to open four new plants, hire nearly 11,000 workers

Ford is building twin lithium-ion battery plants in central Kentucky through a joint venture with South Korea-based SK called BlueOvalSK as well as a massive 3,600-acre campus in west Tennessee

Ford can buy from 10 to 11 plus

Ford dividends are fair, no need to sell lah

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Mikecyc

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Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-10-03 12:01 |

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Mikecyc

45,564 posts

Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-10-03 12:11 |

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Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-10-03 12:46 | Report Abuse

qqq3,
No hurry. Wait for q3 financial report to know exactly what will be the q3 realised and unrealised derivatives gain.

By the way HRC in 2020 actually make a realised derivatives gain of RM 1,124,316,000

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-03 12:47 | Report Abuse

sslee

Always buy growth. Use this as your mantra.

if you see companies building many many plants and hiring more than 10,000 workers like Ford, just buy, no worries.

if you see companies sacking thousands of workers like TG, never buy anymore, but no need to sell if you did not dump earlier around peak, coz its only money.

Sslee

5,583 posts

Posted by Sslee > 2022-10-03 12:53 | Report Abuse

Philip like growth stock so much, so he hold his QL tight tight and buying into Serba.

By the way Petchem buying the entire stake in Perstorp Holding AB, a sustainability-driven global specialty chemicals company, for RM10.5 billion. Is that a good growth move?

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 12:55 |

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 12:57 |

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i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-03 13:07 | Report Abuse

sslee
its a good move for now....
demand for speciality chemicals changes with progress of civilization, no one knows the answer, its high risk.

only demand for core chemicals like urea, butadiene, most plastics are extremely stable ... ... for now.

I left the chemistry thingy long ago. Counting money is way much easier, yawn !!!

Zhuge_Liang

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Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2022-10-03 13:12 |

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Mikecyc

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Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-10-03 13:14 | Report Abuse

Haha what is Ford ROE ??

i3lurker

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Posted by i3lurker > 2022-10-03 13:21 | Report Abuse

During the past 13 years, Ford Motor Co's highest ROE % was 56.84%. The lowest was -4.00%. And the median was 19.88%.

Securities firms list Ford ROE as 45.29%

Mikecyc

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Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-10-03 13:25 | Report Abuse

Haha Philip n ethical Sifu 3iii bought those Growth stocks at Lower price loh … KLSE still can research for 1 or 2 Growth stock as Penny stock .. as posted in TG , shall reveal One at end Nov or early December 2022 ….

Mikecyc

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Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-10-03 13:26 | Report Abuse

So, based on the above formula, the ROE for Ford Motor is: 9.8% = US$3.4b ÷ US$35b (Based on the trailing twelve months to June 2021).26 Sep 2021


By comparing a company's ROE with its industry average, we can get a quick measure of how good it is. The limitation of this approach is that some companies are quite different from others, even within the same industry classification. If you look at the image below, you can see Ford Motor has a lower ROE than the average (20%) in the Auto industry classification.

Mikecyc

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Posted by Mikecyc > 2022-10-03 13:32 | Report Abuse

Haha as posted earlier , I will treat a stock is a Growth stock if ROE is 20 % n above …

sharemarket21

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Posted by sharemarket21 > 2022-10-03 13:40 | Report Abuse

Some force selling today and the next day. See how it holds the level end of the session.

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 13:48 | Report Abuse

Got meh. Force selling so few saham one meh. Haiyoh. Correct?


sharemarket21

Some force selling today and the next day. See how it holds the level end of the session.

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 13:52 | Report Abuse

Ford from usd4 goreng until almost usd26 them turun sampai sekarang bcos of high ROE kah. Haiyoh. Correct?

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 13:58 | Report Abuse

Due to so called Suiyee Auditor recommendation so far. We tikam Ford see we can get Lobster and champain to drink or not. Since he like kutuk all bursa ctr will banklap one. Ford wont banklap still cash rich few billions can burn some more. Boleh?

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-10-03 13:59 | Report Abuse

Ular,
From HRC q1 2020 financial result:

Refining margin swap contracts notional amt: USD 321,821,000
Assets: RM 691,887,000
Liabilities: RM (54,145,000)

Fair value gain on derivative financial instruments: RM 472,651,000.

You can compare what happen to mogas crack spread during q1 2020 to what happen to magas crack spread in q3 2022 to make your prediction what will be q3 2022 realised and unrealised mogas refining margin swap contracts.

The beauty this time round is the dieael and jetfuel sell will bring in lot of profit for HRC.

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 14:00 |

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 14:10 | Report Abuse

Ford is in the midst of a major restructuring, devoting more resources to electric vehicles and trimming $3 billion in annual costs from its internal-combustion development efforts. Starting next year, the company will report results for three business units: Ford Blue, representing its legacy internal-combustion business; Ford Model e, its electric vehicle business; and Ford Pro, its commercial vehicle operation.

Lawler reiterated that Ford is targeting a total company adjusted EBIT margin of 10% — and an 8% EBIT margin from its EVs — by 2026. He did acknowledge that it is not "cost competitive" with rivals at the moment, something that the company is working to change. But he declined to comment on a Wall Street Journal report that Ford is planning to lay off thousands of workers as part of its restructuring plan.

Ford said that its shipments in Europe were up about 22% from the year-earlier period to about 222,000 vehicles on supply chain improvements and strong demand for its commercial vehicles. But Ford's wholesale shipments in China fell 24% in the second quarter, to about 114,000 vehicles, amid extended government-mandated shutdowns near Shanghai and in other parts of eastern China.

Ford said last week that it has secured 100% of the battery supplies it will need to deliver electric vehicles at a rate of 600,000 per year by the end of 2023, and that it's on track to build 2 million a year by 2026.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2022-10-03 14:12 | Report Abuse

Ular,
Because the operating cost (production + admin + depreciation + finance cost) is about RM 449 million for year 2020.

And due to 10 years supply contract to Shell hence even running refining at loss still need to fulfill the delivery to Shell petrol stations

musangfoxking

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Posted by musangfoxking > 2022-10-03 14:30 | Report Abuse

4.03/4.04✔✔✔✔✔

sharemarket21

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Posted by sharemarket21 > 2022-10-03 14:35 | Report Abuse

Watch the back forth trend 3.93 - 4.03 and cash out until the major swing if any.

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 14:55 | Report Abuse

Your feeling not very good leh. Sudah 1 month feeling still belum crash to below rm4.00 leh. Haiyoh. Correct?



MoneyMakers

Very weird day

Oil up but HY deep red (almost break new low - 4.03)

Feel like gonna crash soon

5 minutes ago

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 14:56 | Report Abuse

Rm4.00 wall pun belum collapse how to to crash rm3.00 wall leh. Dont just shout leh. Can have more action or not. Haiyoh. Correct?


MoneyMakers

Crack spread collapsing..’pending’ 1.07Bil hedging loss nxt QR

Inevitable HY eventually collapse back to original price rm3

7 minutes ago

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 14:57 | Report Abuse

You sell call now. Haiyoh. Correct?

sharemarket21

Watch the back forth trend 3.93 - 4.03 and cash out until the major swing if any.

21 minutes ago

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 14:58 | Report Abuse

You thick mean you beli at this price. How about the previous think at higher one. Sudah dapat starbuck kah. Haiyoh. Correct?


musangfoxking

4.03/4.04✔✔✔✔✔

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 14:59 |

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 15:02 | Report Abuse

Siapa mau join Suiyee Auditor punya buy call on Ford. Last friday only usd11.20 and play QR season. Expected to release on 26/102022. Haiyoh. Boleh?

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 15:08 | Report Abuse

Got lah. Ford lah. Want to join or not. Haiyoh. Correct?


qqq8888

dayang at year high............any other share in year high?

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 15:12 | Report Abuse

Must buy lah. Suiyee Auditor cakap one high ROE lah. Haiyoh. Boleh?


qqq8888

ular.........Ford at year low la.........................down 50%

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 15:15 | Report Abuse

Klci turn green leh. Hope can pecah bumbung 1400 again. Boleh?

Ahahah

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Posted by Ahahah > 2022-10-03 15:18 | Report Abuse

MM, your old recorder is not working, keep on repeat the same thing. Think of something else to press down the price so that all of us can collect at a better rate.

Ahahah

453 posts

Posted by Ahahah > 2022-10-03 15:25 | Report Abuse

No. I am waiting to collect.

Ahahah

453 posts

Posted by Ahahah > 2022-10-03 15:25 | Report Abuse

Waiting for you to press down to RM3.00

Ahahah

453 posts

Posted by Ahahah > 2022-10-03 15:26 | Report Abuse

Yes, you keep on repeat the same thing. No effect to the reader anymore.

Ahahah

453 posts

Posted by Ahahah > 2022-10-03 15:27 | Report Abuse

Because of your warning, I sold off at 5plus. Waiting to get in.

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 15:27 | Report Abuse

ebike. Haiyoh. Need to do research again leh. So Ford cannot buy kah. Suiyee sifu buycall leh. High ROE leh. You said cannot buy. Sure or not. EV leh. EV battery leh. Cannot buy. Haiyoh. Correct?


qqq8888

ular........Ford down 50%, GM down 50%.............americans no money to buy cars...............can buy ebike companies.............

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 15:36 | Report Abuse

HY break 4.00 so hard leh. Ada orang support ini macam leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

Ahahah

453 posts

Posted by Ahahah > 2022-10-03 15:38 | Report Abuse

Am waiting at 4.03 but didn’t manage to close till now.

MoneyMakers

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Posted by MoneyMakers > 2022-10-03 15:45 | Report Abuse

If bullish just buy 4.04 lo

Nonstop complain like 1sen got difference aiyoyo

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 16:05 | Report Abuse

Suddenly KLCI pecah bumbung 1400. Wow. So strong. Hope not pancit again lah. Haiyoh. Correct?

wailaidis

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Posted by wailaidis > 2022-10-03 16:06 | Report Abuse

Yeah MM is right about this....everyone posting in this HY forum actually lose money..he meant EVERYONE..because those who made money already left and doesnt bother to talk up or down about this counter anymore..he meant EVERYONE..
MoneyMakers

Dunno why soo shy admit stuck high

Everyone here in same sinking boat leh..want save face 4 wha

UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 16:07 | Report Abuse

Now your 4.00 is getting further leh. Thats why you so angry kah. Haiyoh. Correct?


MoneyMakers

Really nonsense scared buy 4.04 - die2 wait 4.03 complain cannot get

Not like buy rm7/6/5 leh aiyoyo

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UlarSawa

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Posted by UlarSawa > 2022-10-03 16:09 | Report Abuse

Credit Suisse Group AG’s new chief has asked investors for less than 100 days to deliver a new turnaround strategy. Turbulent markets are making that feel like a long time.

The cost of insuring the firm’s bonds against default climbed about 15% last week to levels not seen since 2009 as the shares touched a new record low. On Friday, Chief Executive Officer Ulrich Koerner reassured staff that the bank has a “strong capital base and liquidity position” and told employees that he will be sending them a regular update until the firm announces a new strategic plan on Oct. 27.

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