The problem isn't the steel industry per se but the repercussions on a macro level, driving down valuations if there are retaliatory response from the affected countries
I though only 1 buffet in the world , but how come Malaysia also got buffet and not only one !!! All not prof want become prof , continue give advise and think only he one people is correct , the other all wrong. I don't know masteel monday up or down , i only know my avp is 0.88(manual count in bonus),i buy at june 2017 and keep until now. When drop each time i add a bit and abit . I don't know what bussiness sense , also don't know what TA FA. I only know rebar average selling price up , rm up , and 1 info from my friend who work in steel factory in JB say Jan bussiness good , Feb sales no good because CNY , alliance steel operation on March 2018 but not full run , first 3 month is test run . This 2 days drop i also pain heart because my profit less 10k in 2 day but i still keep until next qr then just see how. I hope all of you stop argue here , share some useful info with link , not share personal opinion and bad mouth. All info without link/data/proof i never read because for me those is rubbish acticle . Stop saying will up or down because you all are guess , guess correct because your luck , wrong guess also your luck.
"Steel is just a tiny input in the U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) — which is why it's so crazy. You mess up your entire trading system for an industry that has a total of 80,000 jobs," Posen argued. 2015 census data showed roughly 140,000 Americans employed in steel mills, contributing $36 billion to the national economy.
By comparison, steel-consuming industries, which experts believe will be hardest hit by the tariffs, employ 6.5 million Americans and add about $1 trillion to U.S. GDP, according to the census.
Trump, who campaigned on the promise of reviving long-suffering U.S. industries, argued the move will protect American jobs.
The U.S. imports 30 percent of its steel. Once a bastion of steel production, shifts in global trade and automation saw hundreds of thousands of steel jobs eviscerated from the 1970s onward. America's steel industry has long called for a clampdown on imports and global steelmaking overcapacity, and is now lauding Trump's decision.
U.S. steel and aluminum shares jumped sharply before markets closed Thursday, with some companies seeing share price increases of up to 9 percent.
Critics of the policy, which reportedly include Trump's own chief economic advisor Gary Cohn and Council of Economic Advisers chair Kevin Hassett, as well as multiple right-leaning free trade groups, warn that the protectionist measures will only hurt the U.S. in the long run.
But the move appears to be in line with what many people see as Trump's prioritization of pleasing his "base."
"It's time we stop pretending there was any sense at all," Posen said. "It's all about giving a handout to particular U.S. steel and aluminum producers. In national security terms, it makes no sense because it's hitting our military allies like western Europe, South Korea and Japan, and it doesn't directly hit China. It's a tax on consumers."
Posen noted that China isn't even among the top five steel exporters to the U.S. — these are Canada, Brazil, South Korea, Mexico and Russia.
If Trump make u-turn on next week, what will happen to the steel share price???
Most likely Trump will propose a more friendly tariff instead of direct apply to all countries......
The whole world steel demand is there even US increase the tariff, but do u think a leader of a country will do a stupid policy to harm their country's economy.
For me i not believe, don't forget Trump is a successful Business Man
European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker was quoted as saying that the "EU will react firmly and commensurately to defend our interests" while Canada's Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland said that "Canada will take responsive measures to defend its trade interest and workers."
EU considers imposing ‘safeguard’ import tariffs in response to US Trade commissioner says Trump’s move could have ‘dangerous domino effect’ Cecilia Malmstrom, EU trade commissioner, warns that the EU will have no choice but to respond to US president Donald Trump's decision
why must those sifu always emphasize how good they are and how great is their performance? Compare rto the real sifu COLDEYE 冷眼 who never boasting how good is his performance... He wont say that his performance which is very impressive... Heart cold already with this i3. 都是水准一般 没有自信的师父才需要一直强调自己的表现有多好有多好! 天下乌鸦一般黑。
I am actually just paying a little money for the sifu for subscription and mastell around rm 1.15 post bonus, not so much. But what about those who bought at rm 1.40 after being advice there will be a very good qr coming. Disastrous and which can actually sell at rm 1.25 1.20 but again being advice not to sell then now rm 1.07 then start talking about long term investment already.
I hate it when people change tune to long term investment, at first the advice giving to you is actually sounds lile a good short term and mid term play... Then when cant be materialise then long term already... Shit... Make people getting deeper and deeper
No different from the tuapaoxian tang teng boo. 陈鼎武大炮仙。 predict the market drop for so many years and enjoy sky high management fees every year just because he has a lot of brainless stupid follower by trusting his long term investment. Dont simply use the term LONG TERM INVESTMENT.
Is ok for those new retail investor to comfort themself by using long term investment when the share is trap. But now all those sifu also same LOL. make people lose money already then change tune already. LONG TERM INVESTMENT. if after one year still same then make up another story... Lol funny
May I quote Warren Buffett: DO NOT ASK THE BARBER IF YOU NEED A HAIRCUT
When I see "sifus" and analysts writing articles to promote "Buy" call, I sell. When I see "sifus" and analysts writing articles to promote "Sell" call, I buy. Provided the company is not loss-making and has decent fundamentals and prospect, this has worked well for me so far :)
I am holding MASTEEL shares at the average price of RM1.003. That is why, I am going to be very honest, if you see my comments in i3, I am mostly supporting and believing in MASTEEL. This is just human behaviour, which can generally be categorised into the following types:
1. Still holding - Strongly support the counter hoping that it will rebound 2. Sold - Strongly condemn the counter so that when the counter continues to drop, you will take pride in knowing you made the right choice 3. Intend to buy - Strongly condemn so that the price can reach the level you are targetting 4. Does not intend to buy/sell - While there may be a small minority in this group, I feel safer to think that there's no one that falls into this category. Everyone acts for their own interest.
Understand the human behaviour and you will do very well in stock market.
Haha actually i not 100% confident in sifu one. I just subscript then to gain idea. I sold at rm 1.24 the day crash, and bought back yesterday at 1.09. I am into FA but definitely not TA. as TA required you to cut loss at A DAMN CHEAP PRICE! since the sifu also mentioned this is a so good fundamental stock. And at the same time cut loss at such a cheap price.... Omg... Wth.... You get what i mean.
I really do hope that instead of just stick on this masteel issue, OTB should now move forward amd look for the previously claimed rm0.50 masteel kind of stock to the subscriber , look for one and move forward from this masteel, since the masteel is good for investment then ok.. We heard amd bought and decided to hold. What mext?
If you look at the scary chart of hengyuan and masteel, we should blame ourself... Shoot up not 45 degree and not 60 degree..... Nearly straight up... Gosh.... Since 2017. We are late for the party... I am not interested to hear how goodvis the past performance of maybe bought hengyuan at rm 5 or bought masteel at rm 0.20 i cant be all this story witness. I also not interested who already become millionaires of your followers. Please give your subscribers a good stock which is same as hengyuan at rm 5.00 then i believe when you are in this situation again, many people will come and defend for you! Say.... Everyone also can say. Every sifu will say how impressive they are and boast , show us the results! And give a good recommendation! Since you collect fees!
I cannot understand why people keep talking bad on Masteel. This company still making good profit. If you are not holding masteel and you are trying to spread negative on it, what is your intention? Those who keep posting positive, of course they are holding masteel and wish price will rebound. This is normal human being. I dont think there is such a kind hearted person where they never hold masteel but trying to busy body to ask people to cut loss, or they wish you to get lost from masteel and they grab the opportunity to go in? Nobody know.
For me, human are greedy, human are selfish.
Our honour business man keep promoting Jaks and keep talking bad on Masteel and keep saying he is trying to help people to reduce lost. Is he so kind hearted? Please Judge by yourself. For me, a business man sense means sense on how to make their pocket bigger and bigger. If he really want to help people, why he is buying alot of Jaks then only ask other to buy? If he is willing to help people, why not he ask ikan bilis like us to enter at the low price first then only he push up the price? If he is really to help people, he can post in his article by saying that " I am going to push up the price by 50cents up, please buy on Monday before I push up". If Monday really up 50cents or whatever price you promise to push up, then everybody will trust you are helping people. Above statement is Naive! Because nobody really will do like this to help people.
What I am trying to say is Human are selfish especially those business man. Everything they do, Including you and me, we have our intention.
For me as Masteeel holder, eventhough as a super ikan bilis, I wish this panic sell will stop. Masteel is not go into PN17 or going to bankrupt tomorrow. Why are we so panic and influence by those kind hearted person.
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Please read it.
https://www.facebook.com/rhresearch/posts/1849456881732589