Hi Cheongcy, nice to see u checking back on the stock now that results are out.
Bonus issue's definitely some good news, but impact abit diluted by many other companies that have done the same. Anyway, PIE's a cyclical stock. 3 years good, 2 years bad that kinda thing.. looks to be like we're into half a year of good with more to come..
Have u revised your TP upwards? I'm gonna be abit more greedy and target a broad range between 11.5x- 15.0x PER. Thats something like RM8.60-RM11.25 :)
Dear redjacket, there is no way we can calculate the exact value of a company. Investing is all about after we have considered all the worst thing could happen to the company e.g. slower growth, lower profit margin, etc etc and the evaluated value still has a high margin of safety, then high chances this is a sound investment.
For PIE, its profit margin actually has dropped compare to years ago. Currently operating margin at the range of 10% - 11%. Assuming the company able to perform good at 10% operating margin, with 5% growth it worth RM7.11. For PIE to reach RM11.25, the company needs to achieve double digit growth which I do not believe it is able to do so. Anyhow, nothing is impossible in stock market. If the coming years it could make 7% growth per year, yes, it will reach RM8.60.
Its first quarter performance is fantastic. Net profit jumped 65% on a sales turnover that almost double the previous period. Achieving RM9 is not wishful thinking anymore.....it can become real.
not understand why price drop to 7.7+ compared yesterday closing price 8.32, but system still show top gain no 1? it is related to given divide or bonus issue?
yea bonus Bonus Issue EX-date: 10 Jun 2014 Entitlement date: 12 Jun 2014 Entitlement description: Bonus issue of up to 12,801,400 new ordinary shares of RM1.00 each in P.I.E. Industrial Berhad ("PIB") ("PIB Share(s)" or "Share(s)") ("Bonus Share(s)") to be credited as fully paid-up on the basis of one (1) Bonus Share for every five (5) existing PIB Shares held as at 5.00 p.m. on 12 June 2014 ("Entitlement Date") ("Bonus Issue")
PIE still holding on strong at around RM7.00 even after rights. I have a feeling it will touch RM8.00 before year end. Good dividend paying counter. Keep for long term.
The very expensive stock. Even foxconn the mother company is shifting to movie production and 4G telephone services. The hardware is sunset industry. In my opinion, the price is high because the person that manipulate this stock is thinking that he is living in a third-world country as he hasn't realized that hardware or wiring could be the sunset industry next in line. How can a price go up so high to 6 something or 8 something and everyday few volume at all. You could be sitting on a sunset industry, hello, this is market time wake up.
Err Kian, I hardly think that manufacturing touch screen devices (TVs, smartphones, PC monitors) are a sunset industry. I'd be damned if i were to invest in a company that does movie production though.. lol
(1) At first I have only one problem---I do not understand the price of the stock because this is a malaysian company which is a pretty small investment of the Taiwan parent company. They usually imported factory equipment from the Taiwan parent to this company if you have been following the purchase of equipment of the company closely. This company made very low end product and pc based for their clients when pc was a hot item. They set up factory here because their client came here. Now pc components are made and assembled mostly in China, they don't have that kind of advantage down the road anymore. They try to diversify to other products, if you follow their annual report last year. This company's technical ability is quite limited, they mostly do labor intensive stuff, or assembled of components for their clients.
(2) My second problem is: After you understand the nature and background of the company. You should try to analyze what can the company you are investing in do for their clients. Do you think this company can make touch screen devices (TVs,smartphones,PC monitors)? To by pass Sharp, it was rumored on the newspaper that the parent company Foxconn may put up TWD175 billion just to set up a touch screen monitor factory for the smartphones. Do you still think this company can do all the things you said? If you think it can, you have no knowledge of what you are saying, this is my own opinion.
PIE is not foxconn. PIE is controlled by a company in Taiwan managed by Terry Guo's daughter and son-in-law. I hope you don’t make the mistake of thinking that PIE is foxconn.PIE is only related to Foxconn because of the ties between father and daughter. There are two different companies business wise.I hope you get this right, Err RJ.
The hardware are getting cheaper and cheaper that is why. It is very difficult to be hardware companies or else Sony, Masushita, Sharp, and Dell, and others are having troubles. It is becoming a sunset industry not because people are not using touch screen devices (TVs,smartphones,PC monitors). The companies that manufacture these devices that are becoming the sunset industry, Err RJ. Why don't you go back to Junior College and start learning what is Business 101 because you start investing?
I am already very surprise right now. The tech company reported results this month are mostly below expectation or subpar. A lot of bigger technology companies are already doing disapointingly this year, such as Foxcone in Taiwan, and even MPI and JCY and others. And Even Samsung, it doesn't know what to do next, the consumer market is experiencing a global weakness. Do you know this or not? Ialready told you to wake up and still you said you are drowzy!
Why downtrend in stock price? Where is the high-tech gadgets and the big bucks that the company is supposed to deliver and to earn? Where? Where? Where? Ha! Ha! Ha!
It was around RM7 during the latest bonus issue exercise. Now it has surpassed RM8. This performance speaks volume about the quality of this stock. Good to keep long term.
Company with good fundamentals coupled with favourable exchange rate (US$ vs MYR), getting to RM10 is highly probable. One can say it's easy goreng counter. But look back at its share performance. Even after the bonus issue it stood at RM7 and has been on the upward trend since. I see further good news for this counter.
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Posted by redjacket > 2014-03-03 10:37 | Report Abuse
Hi Cheongcy, nice to see u checking back on the stock now that results are out.
Bonus issue's definitely some good news, but impact abit diluted by many other companies that have done the same.
Anyway, PIE's a cyclical stock. 3 years good, 2 years bad that kinda thing.. looks to be like we're into half a year of good with more to come..
Have u revised your TP upwards?
I'm gonna be abit more greedy and target a broad range between 11.5x- 15.0x PER. Thats something like RM8.60-RM11.25 :)