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16,688 comment(s). Last comment by kuttyravi 2022-12-18 16:10

annmix

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Posted by annmix > 2015-08-10 13:34 | Report Abuse

Everyday lower n lower... najib is biggest enemy.of bursa

viper88

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Posted by viper88 > 2015-08-10 15:10 | Report Abuse

Ya.. its indeed disappointing the big shareholders not support & push the price yet.
Whether theres any price movement during the OR trading dates & after completed the whole conversion of new shares is still waiting 2 unfold..

Tomorrow is the last trading date before ex-RI on 12/8/15 and OR in acct on 14/8/15
Those still holding the THHEAVY shares will be entitled for the OR & option to subscribe for the ICPS shares at 0.25.

OR trading dates 17 - 24/8/15.

If THHEAVY share price still low from the RI offer price, TH & underwriters acquire back all the OR without any additional cost and subscribe all the remaining ICPS shares at 0.25 to raise abt RM300million to support biz operation especially their major fpso contracts

Unless theres demand from buyer for the OR n THHEAVY shares up during the OR trading dates period.

Conversation ratio 16:15

Listing of new shares 14/9/15

rishi

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Posted by rishi > 2015-08-11 00:38 | Report Abuse

Dude viper, i'm thankful for all your information yet i have few doubts here. What if the price of the thheavy below Rm0.25, will there any OR trading on 17/8/215 or the underwrites will absorb all by themselve automatically?

viper88

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Posted by viper88 > 2015-08-11 01:13 | Report Abuse

Tycoon Analyst: If LTH & underwriters subscribe all the new ICPS, their shareholdings in THHEAVY shares will be about 70-80%. LTH have invested since Ramunia and also subscribed 2 ICPS shares in 2012 before...

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/pkr-reveals-more-losses-for-tabung-haji-in-deal-with-oil-and-gas-company

LTH avg price should be quite high... they need 2 avg down and also push up price to be in profit zone. Just don't know when...
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rishi

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Posted by rishi > 2015-08-11 09:08 | Report Abuse

Thanks man

Mat Cendana

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Posted by Mat Cendana > 2015-08-11 11:25 | Report Abuse

THHeavy at 17 sen - had never thought it would be possible. But here it is, the stark reality. I'm still watching it every day though...for the day when the bottom is finally confirmed and it starts to retrace upwards. Very gloomy sentiment right now but I'd want to be in when the tide changes. This is one of the counter that offer the best bang for the buck when it comes to potential returns.

viper88

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Posted by viper88 > 2015-08-11 11:51 | Report Abuse

rishi: OR trading is for those who want to buy extra ICPS shares and those who want to sell off their rights. It will depend on buyer/seller demand and queue price. If no buyer, the OR will not be able to sell off and will lapse. All lapsed OR will be bought over by TH & underwriters as per the RI approved proposal.

pirate99

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Posted by pirate99 > 2015-08-11 12:05 | Report Abuse

Suggest who has pile of cash to stay sideline until the dust settle & am willing to wait for qtr rprt..

viper88

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Posted by viper88 > 2015-08-11 13:09 | Report Abuse

Mat Cendana: Yes, its indeed a heavy game. Private share placement at 0.33, nta at 0.33, fpso project in hand worth rm 2.7 billion but price keep hammered down much below its RI offer price.

Not much buying/support shows the big shareholders most likely want to accumulate /avg down their share price and sapu all the icps shares since the demand is low due to Oil market price weak and bad market sentiments.

Arefiq84

107 posts

Posted by Arefiq84 > 2015-08-11 15:18 | Report Abuse

Got in 0.16...lowest ever...hopefully reverse next week...when qr results by the way...

viper88

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Posted by viper88 > 2015-08-11 16:42 | Report Abuse

Last day before ex, really pressing down price further from RI offer price.

venomv

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Posted by venomv > 2015-08-11 18:08 | Report Abuse

RI is irrelevant now at this current price of 16sen, Thheavy-OR is practically WORTHLESS !!
Better concentrate on preserving your capital and all your investments in this meltdown !!
There's no place to hide. You just have to weather and overcome this financial storm.

There are currently so many negatives :
1. Political instability and uncertainty;
2. Ringgit Currency crisis;
3. Commodity (OIL and Metals) crashing;
4. Macro factors like China; Greece; FED Interest rate; etc

WHO knows how LOW the KLCI can drop ?
Trade with care. IF you're patient, you can catch some very good bargains !!!

My two sen worth !!

yongyou

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Posted by yongyou > 2015-08-12 06:54 | Report Abuse

thanks for sharing

"venomv > RI is irrelevant now at this current price of 16sen, Thheavy-OR is practically WORTHLESS !!
Better concentrate on preserving your capital and all your investments in this meltdown !!
There's no place to hide. You just have to weather and overcome this financial storm.

There are currently so many negatives :
1. Political instability and uncertainty;
2. Ringgit Currency crisis;
3. Commodity (OIL and Metals) crashing;
4. Macro factors like China; Greece; FED Interest rate; etc

WHO knows how LOW the KLCI can drop ?
Trade with care. IF you're patient, you can catch some very good bargains !!!

My two sen worth !!

11/08/2015 18:08 "

yongyou

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Posted by yongyou > 2015-08-12 06:55 | Report Abuse

congratulations bro

"Arefiq84 > Got in 0.16...lowest ever...hopefully reverse next week...when qr results by the way...

11/08/2015 15:18 "

yongyou

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Posted by yongyou > 2015-08-12 06:56 | Report Abuse

on 12 Aug 2015, those investors should be able to see the OR in their trading platform?

"viper88 > Last day before ex, really pressing down price further from RI offer price.

11/08/2015 16:42 "

ayam

115 posts

Posted by ayam > 2015-08-12 09:00 | Report Abuse

Reloading as well

tlbeng

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Posted by tlbeng > 2015-08-12 09:40 | Report Abuse

dont know wanna give how many times of right issue to dilute the share

afata08

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Posted by afata08 > 2015-08-12 10:58 | Report Abuse

ini macam bagus collect@ 0.10!!...

viper88

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Posted by viper88 > 2015-08-12 11:02 | Report Abuse

yongyou: only on 14/8/15 the OR will enter to acct.
17-24/8/15 - for OR trading.

tlbeng: Its more on selling pressure that keep lower the price much..
After price ex-ri still have ppl selling and queue to sell..
Its odd coz those who don't want the RI most of them already exit bfr ex but now still want to sell? Seems like very hard rinse to collect shares at cheap price and prevent OR trades..

The biggest "winner" that benefit will be TH & underwriters but their market share value also shrink a lot unless they push up back after RI completed.

Mat Cendana

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Posted by Mat Cendana > 2015-08-12 19:04 | Report Abuse

I had felt the 0.16 mentioned previously was already dirt cheap. But it still went down some more! There may be one glimmer of hope here - it finished off its lowest point. That's quite encouraging because it indicates strong support at that level.

Mat Cendana

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Posted by Mat Cendana > 2015-08-12 19:07 | Report Abuse

@viper88 Thanks for all the info and opinions on THHeavy. I will certainly take into account what you have said here in deciding the time to buy.

viper88

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Posted by viper88 > 2015-08-12 20:21 | Report Abuse

Mat Cendana: Ur welcome.

Its actually very odd coz after ex-ri the price still can drop further till 0.135 early morning before stable up back to 0.15. Why there are still sellers after ex-RI 1st day ? Unless panic sell or still have selling pressure pushing down price to get more cheap shares back.

The right issue is 16:15 not 2:1...from 0.25 offer price.. but current price seems like pushing lower down to almost more than half the NTA 0.33 share price and the big shareholder/players not even support it much.

OR play will be affected coz hard to sell unless theres demand from buyer or price rebound higher in coming days/next week.

Those who subscribe for RI still have to pay 0.25 for ICPS shares and their share value will be adjusted/follow as per THHEAVY share price next month.

Mat Cendana

2,336 posts

Posted by Mat Cendana > 2015-08-13 00:16 | Report Abuse

Now that you mentioned it, the selling at this price level is strange indeed. It's like people were waiting to sell at a lower price! The volumes over the past sessions - certainly not heavy. But the price will fall when the seller simply gives to the bidder's price. Heck, why like that?! Which makes your explanation extremely likely.

If some people have an agenda, we the small fry can't fight them and win. The better thing to do is to try hitch a ride on their tailcoats. Have to watch this, and jump in when the game is on.

orlandooil

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Posted by orlandooil > 2015-08-13 08:07 | Report Abuse

Unbelievable, so low. Its yard is so quite now you can hear a pin drops. The CEO has warned before that THHeavy is not getting any jobs.

The only way out is to get out of oil and gas business. But who want to buy fabrication yard at this moment and what is going to happen to that one and only FPSO? Scrap it??

The minute he knew he has made a mistake QLC cut like no tomorrow. And on hindsight he is 100% right!

orlandooil

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Posted by orlandooil > 2015-08-13 08:09 | Report Abuse

Heard no jobs no income yet the yard is burning hundreds of thousands of cash every month

viper88

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Posted by viper88 > 2015-08-13 11:14 | Report Abuse

Current play is more focus on RI, OR trades and after RI complete.
Price movement so far been weak, need to stable down and move up once RI raise new fund rm300million completed.

viper88

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Posted by viper88 > 2015-08-13 12:01 | Report Abuse

Once all the sellers get lesser, price will move up faster when big players starts to buy up in big vol.

Previously THHEAVY price spiked up fast after RI completed.
Its price also spike up fast several times when theres +ve newsplay or new project secured.

Usually, all the good +ve news will release after RI completed to boost its share price.

With TH & underwriters able to subscribe for all remaining icps shares, they don't rely much on retailers shareholder money unless they push up price to play OR next week and also push up price when icps convert to THHEAVY shares in Sept.

Arefiq84

107 posts

Posted by Arefiq84 > 2015-08-13 23:47 | Report Abuse

Too cheap to ignore...just collect more...i think this quater will be better...good luck everyone...

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2015-08-14 10:51 | Report Abuse

This counter is doomed?

supernova

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Posted by supernova > 2015-08-14 11:15 | Report Abuse

10 cent stock in the making

apanama

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Posted by apanama > 2015-08-14 11:16 | Report Abuse

All are doom..gendang sudah berbunyi..semboyan kuat telah ditiup..welcome the .........:)

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2015-08-14 11:41 | Report Abuse

Time is the biggest asset, sooner or later, most shares will be 5 times or more the value it is now.

annmix

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Posted by annmix > 2015-08-14 14:06 | Report Abuse

Thanks to najis !

viper88

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Posted by viper88 > 2015-08-14 19:08 | Report Abuse

Oil price drop, KLCI drop, ringgit drop.. so many bad sentiments..Contra kakis exit and lack of buyers.

Price support lvl broke so far away and price trading 0.15 - 0.16 range from RI price 0.25.

At current price 0.15/0.155 its indeed low and yet still not much buying support.

sheep

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Posted by sheep > 2015-08-14 21:45 | Report Abuse

so dont subcribe the icp-i

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2015-08-16 00:12 | Report Abuse

The management team, convincing?? http://www.thhe.com.my/index.php/management-team/

Joy

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Posted by Joy > 2015-08-16 00:24 | Report Abuse

Viper. We can decide not to subscribe RI, and trade as usual based on market price right? What is OR?

viper88

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Posted by viper88 > 2015-08-16 01:46 | Report Abuse

Joy: Yes, the shareholders can decide not to subscribe the RI.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/stocks/05/062905.asp

OR renounceable rights - those entitle for the RI can sell their OR if theres buyer wiling to buy.
If no buyer the OR will lapse and ICP-I will subscribe by TH and underwriters abt RM300million will be converted as THHEAVY shares later in Sept.

TH and underwriter have to pay premium to subscribe and take all the remaining RI shares at 0.25 for RM300millions and when convert to THHEAVY shares, it will follow the main share price..

At current price, its really not balance up the RI offer price after complete the whole process unless it move up higher than 0.25.

viper88

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Posted by viper88 > 2015-08-16 02:05 | Report Abuse

Many O&G stock price drop more 50%++ even big player SKPETRO oso drop alot.
THHEAVY drop the most from recent high of 0.455.

Theres attempt to push the price >0.25 for OR trading before recent hari Raya but was hammered down by selling pressure to 0.20 and after ex-RI drop further 0.16-0.15.

RI offer price at 0.25 and those who subscribe definitely paying premium from THHEAVY main shares instead of getting discount price.

Joy

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Posted by Joy > 2015-08-16 12:50 | Report Abuse

Viper.Thanks for your detailed information.

cashflow

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Posted by cashflow > 2015-08-16 20:31 | Report Abuse

There is hope, big tenders coming.

viper88

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Posted by viper88 > 2015-08-16 22:35 | Report Abuse

Joy: U are welcome.

yong8888

390 posts

Posted by yong8888 > 2015-08-16 22:37 | Report Abuse

hihi, hope that this counter is not "Wong Fei Hong Siew Tong" ,

HAHAH, May God bless all

yongyou

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Posted by yongyou > 2015-08-16 22:40 | Report Abuse

:) Bro Yong, u r here

yong8888

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Posted by yong8888 > 2015-08-16 22:43 | Report Abuse

hi, Yongyou,

haha, today no dating mah,.. so a bit free to looksee looksee .... , how are you, ??

Be happy always and happy trading

yongyou

4,676 posts

Posted by yongyou > 2015-08-16 22:48 | Report Abuse

Bro Yong, me fine

I tot u interested in THH, this counter scare die ppl one

yongyou

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Posted by yongyou > 2015-08-16 22:49 | Report Abuse

Those who bot, I think tomorrow they can get the OR

yong8888

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Posted by yong8888 > 2015-08-16 22:54 | Report Abuse

yongyou,

haha, I know this counter very well, I won't play it at all, .... just hope that it can revive so that many ppl can recover their heavy looses....

may god bless all

yongyou

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Posted by yongyou > 2015-08-16 22:56 | Report Abuse

:D

viper88

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Posted by viper88 > 2015-08-16 22:56 | Report Abuse

OR trading 17-24/8/15.

Since THHEAVY main share current price is cheaper than RI price, its much cheaper entry for buyer to buy main shares 1st unless theres some changes and rise in its share price next week.

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