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Posted by dimmubroker > 2021-12-08 19:08 | Report Abuse

Just finish read this.

The mispresented truth about Serba Dinamik – The mainstream medias' not so great headlines

16th November 2021 8:31 PM (Updated 17th November 2021 12:02 PM)



The press/media has been acting up lately. What is surprising is that with so much negativity and revelations to audit issues to missed coupon payments which are hot off the press in lighting speed for the last 5 months, something has changed since last week. Never before the tone of the media been like this for Serba Dinamik.

Just as an example, it beggars belief that TheEdge reports on 16th November 2021,

Serba Dinamik develops algorithm to identify Covid-19 through cough

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/serba-dinamik-develops-algorithm-identify-covid19-through-cough

While this may be a positive news for Malaysia, why report this from a company that supposedly has governance and coupon payment issues? Begs to wonder. Even the investment community were quick to put this into the furnace as utter irrelevance to the issues at hand.

And what is more interesting is the TheEdge article on 13th November 2021,

More questions raised after Serba Dinamik's lawsuit against special independent reviewer EY

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/more-questions-raised-after-serba-dinamiks-lawsuit-against-special-independent-reviewer-ey

provided a balance view on the issues at hand. Never before have I read a single piece of news from TheEdge that considers various issues from different perspectives. Its usually a piece that puts Serba Dinamik in bad light. This article was indirectly implying that "we have to study the details from every angle and come to a reasonable and fair conclusion for all parties".

But the most crucial stunner of them all is this, MSWG's CEO decides to use FocusMalaysia to air his personal opinion on 13th November 2021.

The Serba Dinamik saga: When things come to a head

https://focusmalaysia.my/the-serba-dinamik-saga-when-things-come-to-a-head/

What is striking about this is a complete lack of decisive opinion from the writer. This is very unusual, since all opinions from the writer historically has always been accompanied with some highlights of issue and actions to be taken to resolve them quickly.

"MSWG is not aware of the contents of the ‘Factual Finding Update’ and as such is unable to opine on the materiality of the findings."

Shouldn't MSWG be the one to issue a statement?

The change in media tone is apparent and there are some dead giveaways as to what is really happening behind the scenes. Writing styles do tell lies.

For one, while MSWG is not aware of the contents ‘Factual Finding Update’, that doesn't mean that MSWG's CEO isn't. His use of syntax strongly suggest that he has read and understood its contents.

For two, TheEdge's writer and/or their interviewed sources may have read and understood its contents as they questioned the legitimacy of the appointment rather than the ‘Factual Finding Update. If it was illegitimate, such findings are null and void and assumed in-complete in the end.



Key Take Away

What this means, outside the realms of the meeting, 3rd parties have read and understood the contents of the ‘Factual Finding Update'.

It also means that many of the media have been misinformed as to the actual severity of the issue and perpetuated falsehoods. Who can corroborate this?

“Directors, independent ED’s and the audit committee need to be dynamic in looking into this, as well as other aspects of the firm. The ongoing business of the company has more importance than the audit issues themselves,”.

Serba Dinamik presses on despite suspension of trading on Bursa Malaysia

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/highlight/2021/10/23/serba-dinamik-presses-on-despite-suspension-of-trading-on-bursa-malaysia/

The Independent Directors' of Serba Dinamik seem to think so.

Note : This is another falsehood being expunged. The ultimate regulator is Securities Commission Malaysia. They have the ultimate power and makes the final decision.

End the standoff: Serba Dinamik should make EY review public to prove it has nothing to hide

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/end-standoff-serba-dinamik-should-make-ey-review-public-prove-it-has-nothing-hide

We say this to Serba Dinamik: If the information contained in the EY Consulting review is not “material”, meaning it is not significant, why don’t you just release them to prove that you are right and that KPMG, EY Consulting and Bursa are wrong? Wouldn’t it be very satisfying to show that you have nothing to hide?

To Bursa, we say this: If Serba Dinamik refuses to release the information, the exchange should lift the suspension in the trading of Serba Dinamik shares and warrants to let the market be the judge of what it thinks about this fiasco.

Posted by dimmubroker > 2021-12-08 19:09 | Report Abuse

What is the real story behind all of this issues?

The final outcome can be the opening of the truth.

Maybe SD is not as bad as we heard or read in the forum due to this misinterpretation

ǷearlꙌhite

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Posted by ǷearlꙌhite > 2021-12-08 19:31 | Report Abuse

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TheEdge got it wrong in 3 areas.

1) Bursa is not the chief regulator. SC is.

"It is compellingly natural for the SC, as the chief regulator of the capital markets, to take an interest in the proceedings as an observer," Loh said.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/suit-against-bursa-malaysia-serba-dinamik-seeks-recuse-judge-who-once-served-sc

"Don’t be held to ransom. You are the regulator."

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/end-standoff-serba-dinamik-should-make-ey-review-public-prove-it-has-nothing-hide

2) This is where TheEdge doesn't really understand what materiality is

If it is inmaterial, there is no need to disclose. If it is, then disclose it. Both rational goes against accounting standards and the requirements.

We reiterate what we have said to Serba Dinamik: If indeed the information contained in the SIR is not “material”, why not release it to the public and prove that the regulators are wrong, instead of taking them to court? Wouldn’t that prove once and for all that you have nothing to hide?

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/end-standoff-serba-dinamik-should-make-ey-review-public-prove-it-has-nothing-hide

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/frankly-speaking-who-benefits-blackout-serba-dinamik

3) TheEdge is asking Bursa to break its own rules.

We also repeat our message to Bursa Malaysia: Lift the trading suspension on Serba Dinamik shares and let the market show what it thinks of the information blackout.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/end-standoff-serba-dinamik-should-make-ey-review-public-prove-it-has-nothing-hide

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/frankly-speaking-who-benefits-blackout-serba-dinamik


The best thing of all, is all the information are from Bursa/TheEdge.

They should quality check what they want to press release so that it cannot be used against them and also make them lose their credibility.

Otherwise, just keep quiet.
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Huangbk72

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Posted by Huangbk72 > 2021-12-08 19:35 |

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Posted by shareinvestor888 > 2021-12-08 19:40 | Report Abuse

Agree @Huangbk72

Pusing Putih now…. still on waiting list for admission to TR

Prudentinv

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Posted by Prudentinv > 2021-12-08 19:41 | Report Abuse

Sound like the issues had being blown out of portion to mislead the market.

wongchin

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Posted by wongchin > 2021-12-08 19:44 | Report Abuse

What is so special abt serba unti need to be hostile take over??
Maybe got water fish wants to help sd pay off billions of debt
Maybe got water fish dt mind suspicious account
Maybe this white is the water fish
Hehe

Huangbk72

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Posted by Huangbk72 > 2021-12-08 19:49 | Report Abuse

Issues haunting SD is very clear..

Its audit issues. Just this.. nothing else.

KPMG cannot verify

EY cannot verify

So how is this blown out of proportion?

To keep it under wraps, KPMG and EY should close 1 eye?

External auditors prepare reports for investors and public perusal.. they are entrusted to protect minority shareholders.

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2021-12-08 19:51 |

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zoizai

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Posted by zoizai > 2021-12-08 19:55 | Report Abuse

Shoplot company going jail.

Prudentinv

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Posted by Prudentinv > 2021-12-08 19:58 | Report Abuse

If you want people to believe something, you need to control the media. The first time you see it you may not believe. If they keep posting it over and over on the same issue, this become true. Our subconscious mind will be trick to believe. Media is so important, so never be influenced by them.

newtrader1989

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Posted by newtrader1989 > 2021-12-08 20:21 | Report Abuse

Sue the judge

Huangbk72

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Posted by Huangbk72 > 2021-12-08 20:33 | Report Abuse

Hahaha...

Media posting fake messages?? LOL

This fella is sick..really really sick.. incurable and terminal stage.

Like that, everyone can sue the media for posting fake messages.. everyone make money.... everyone happy....

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2021-12-08 20:54 |

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BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2021-12-08 20:55 |

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joyvest

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Posted by joyvest > 2021-12-08 21:26 | Report Abuse

Until now PW is still denying and defending the phantom of the mastermind...

Why are you so delusional and pathetic? The lion is in front of your presence, you keep saying to people its a puxsy cat....meow meow here and meow meow there but in actual fact what is heard is roar.........are you so blinded and dumb that you are out of your conscious mind?

Your persistent irrational denial is larger than your loss of sense.....

Burstard

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Posted by Burstard > 2021-12-08 21:44 | Report Abuse

This stock left for goreng kaki already

Prudentinv

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Posted by Prudentinv > 2021-12-08 22:21 | Report Abuse

BobAxwlrod. You will reap what you sow. Everyone have different opinion. I only know that the media is misleading.

Prudentinv

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Posted by Prudentinv > 2021-12-08 22:23 | Report Abuse

Anyway only time will tell who is right.

joyvest

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Posted by joyvest > 2021-12-08 22:51 | Report Abuse

Time of your life.

Plenty of time for KPMG,EY cons and SC but time is running out for SD...

IdleMoney66

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Posted by IdleMoney66 > 2021-12-08 22:51 | Report Abuse

haizzz...court case dragged everything. I guess No AR and SIR will be coming end of year.

joyvest

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Posted by joyvest > 2021-12-08 22:53 | Report Abuse

The good,the bad and the ugly. Which one are you?

Reputable media is rubbish conscious,on the other hand,social media is capitalising on publicity with rubbish.

You are talking that you reap what you sow. You sow cabbage and you get cabbage.cabbage in cabbage out as in the case of SD.

One man's meat is another man's poison. The way it goes is all men's poison..

Mabel

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Posted by Mabel > 2021-12-08 23:00 | Report Abuse

#joyvest The good,the bad and the ugly. Which one are you?

08/12/2021 10:49 PM

How about beautiful?...

Hong Kong is Green
Dow Jones is Green
KLCI is still RED...

Daddy used to say..."If you're offered a seat on a rocket ship, don't ask what seat! Just get on it.”

To Our Success !

Meow

Stock: [GREATEC]: GREATECH TECHNOLOGY BERHAD

Dec 8, 2021 5:32 PM | Report Abuse

Hahaha Green...

To Our Success !

Meow

PSAi3alert

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Posted by PSAi3alert > 2021-12-08 23:39 | Report Abuse

If the horse has bolt from the opened barn door, there is really no point in ordering a black-out of the barn.

The findings from the SIR are out and they are as follow:

Scope 1 Findings (Mainly local customers)
EY following investigations, casts doubt on the veracity of the transactions with the 11 identified customers. The total sum involving the 9 out of the 11 identified customers are in excess of RM435 million.

-->> Write-off RM435M from receivables


Scope 2 Findings
EY, following investigations, raised concerns on the veracity of the transactions with the 6 identified local suppliers. The recorded transactions and other amounts are in excess of RM638 million.

-->> If the fictitious payments of RM638M have been made, that liability amount will no longer be in the balance sheet
-->> Is the 'circle fraud' process completed for those 6 local suppliers?


Scope 3 Findings
EY, following investigations, found anomalies with respect to the contracts with 5 SDIT International Limited of the identified customers (India and Indonesia?) and 1 of the identified suppliers. In addition, EY in conducting the SIR also found anomalies with respect to other customers and suppliers not identified by KPMG. The total sum involved is in excess of USD 76 million (RM315.227M).

-->> Write-off RM315.227M for SDIT International's receivables


Scope 4 Findings
EY also casts doubt with respect to the veracity of the transactions with 1 identified customer (Lata) and 1 Bahrain supplier. Invoices and delivery orders of the Bahrain customer is in excess of USD 12 million (RM49.77M).

-->> Write off RM49.77M for Lata International Trading and Services' receivables


p.s. It is absolutely unnecessary to travel to Bahrain during MCO, EMCO, etc.

KPMG / Fakhro
Building 470, Road 1010, Block 410 , 12th Floor, Fakhro Tower , Sanabis , Bahrain

EY CONSULTING W.L.L.
Road 365,East Tower, Bahrain World Trade Centre Block 316 Manama Bahrain

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Risk Trader

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Posted by Risk Trader > 2021-12-08 23:42 | Report Abuse

Get ready bullet, when the mkt open for trade will limit down first...

PSAi3alert

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Posted by PSAi3alert > 2021-12-08 23:42 | Report Abuse

The SIR covered only 11 identified local customers, 6 identified local suppliers, 5 SDIT International Limited of the identified customers and Lata in Bahrain.

However, there are a lot more customers that have yet to be identified for review and those customers have allegedly contributed to substantial 'immaterial' revenue over the years.

Selected Countries Cumulative Rev from 25/5/2016 – 31/3/2021: RM 13,396M

Qatar __________ 4601.051M
- Process Dynamics
- Pavilion Qatar Engineering Co. W. L.L
- Halul Offshore Services Company WLL

UAE ___________ 3380.402M
- New Thunder Technical Services
- Block 7
- Future Digital Data Systems LLC
- Sum Tech

Bahrain ________ 1756.658M
- Lata International Trading and Services
- Regno International Trading & Services W.L.L

Saudi __________ 1201.493M
- Midad Industrial Services

Turkmenistan ____ 721.542M
- Turkmengas

Indonesia _______ 613.514M
- PT Pilar Bahtera Energi

Oman __________ 580.59M
- Revenue International LLC

Kuwait __________ 224.697M

Tanzania _______ 194.809M
- Sufini Holdings Ltd

India ___________ 60.028M
- Captiv Techno Solutions Private Limited
- Analog and Digital Labs India Private Limited

Uzbekistan ______ 40.33M
- Hazarasp Chlor Alkali LLC FC

Laos ___________ 20.99M
- Nam Taep 1,2,3 Hydropower Co Ltd


--->>> Those 'immaterial' revenues that have been erroneously recorded as 'immaterial' assets in the balance sheet will continue to be 'immaterial'.


As at 30th September 2021

Immaterial Assets

Property, plant and equipment : 2,153.796M
Right-of-use assets : 449.619M
Investment in associates : 184.816M
Other investments : 55.314M
Intangible assets : 145.722M

Inventories : 2,342.654M
Contract assets : 652.606M
Trade and other receivables : 1,814.622M
Deposits and prepayments : 307.785M
Cash and cash equivalents 290.285M

Subtotal immaterial assets : 8,397.269M

--->>> Ultimately those 'immaterial' assets will need to be written-off


Material Liabilities
Loans and borrowings 2,278.187M
Trade and other payables : 477.129M
Loan and borrowings : 1,479.556M

Subtotal material liabilities : 4,234.875M

--->>> However, material liabilities will stay

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Jokers2020

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Posted by Jokers2020 > 2021-12-09 07:23 | Report Abuse

instead of settling their audit issue,this useless director want to find trouble with SC...dont know how much it will drop when suspension lifted

maf1964

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Posted by maf1964 > 2021-12-09 07:38 | Report Abuse

it looks like the directors want SD to be suspended forever. then they no need to worry about answering to shareholders.

SC should find ways of charging them in court and if foud guilty may they be jailed for a long long time

conman company

joyvest

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Posted by joyvest > 2021-12-09 08:12 | Report Abuse

Crook to cook

SD keeps tussling with SC for the purpose of buying times so that SD could somehow find the " money" back to pay back SD as if settlement by the dummy receivables....

The interesting part is how to find the " money" back , that has been siphoned or otherwise.It is believed that the " money" is parked somewhere out there only the mastermind knows.....

That mastermind has probably absconded like the fatso jo low....

gemfinder

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Posted by gemfinder > 2021-12-09 08:21 |

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BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2021-12-09 08:22 |

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BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2021-12-09 08:41 |

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alenac

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Posted by alenac > 2021-12-09 08:49 | Report Abuse

hahaha Good morning Bob anticipating next season Ozark finale, the extreme decadent couple living on the edge and under controlled of mexican cartel boss, you don't want to be in their position or neither holding worthless shares of Serbak.

Posted by BobAxelrod > Dec 9, 2021 8:41 AM | Report Abuse

Just wondering....was SD roped in to be a one of those washing machines like in Ozark? Not a crime to be curious.

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2021-12-09 08:59 |

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Prudentinv

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Posted by Prudentinv > 2021-12-09 08:59 | Report Abuse

There is no need to argue and post so many unnecessary things over and over again. Some people just post things over and over to cause panic.

alenac

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Posted by alenac > 2021-12-09 09:04 | Report Abuse

Don't think Serbak audit have got anything to do with under declaration of income, more of declaring false income to the benefit of IRB. Maybe more of laundering, Bryde = Chef, well, maybe a little bit?

Posted by BobAxelrod > Dec 9, 2021 8:55 AM | Report Abuse

@alenac,.. morning sir. We might be in for a shock in the next season as the Mexicans are still in a one sided drug war at the moment. Things may swing the other way...hahahaha

When things in the Accounts don't add up, IRD and in this case Hasil ought to rollback a Tax Audit since the sums and figures and not pennies or cost of a stapler.

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2021-12-09 09:09 |

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alenac

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Posted by alenac > 2021-12-09 09:09 | Report Abuse

hahahaha, sore investor and caught in this counter, focus your anger on Serbak Management not on your fellow commentors. Panic sentiment is over, it is more of regret ever invested in this counter for many. Or are you still living in denial?

Posted by Prudentinv > Dec 9, 2021 8:59 AM | Report Abuse

There is no need to argue and post so many unnecessary things over and over again. Some people just post things over and over to cause panic.

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2021-12-09 09:13 |

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BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2021-12-09 09:15 |

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alenac

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Posted by alenac > 2021-12-09 09:19 | Report Abuse

Whatever it is, as a sardine investor we just have to beware that when the financial statements are too good to be true, just like most China based listed companies in Bursa in the past and still some presently, just don't touch it.

Posted by BobAxelrod > Dec 9, 2021 9:13 AM | Report Abuse

Those discrepancies in Audit issues are not the same as the Hasil issues....hehehehe

They wanted more layers ma...so, more institutions audits lor.

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2021-12-09 09:27 |

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alenac

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Posted by alenac > 2021-12-09 09:29 | Report Abuse

Bob, shit can be eaten is more relevant to politics ala Jibby. Well yesterday verdict is a big dent on his reputation, perhaps karma at its best.

BobAxelrod Thought he said if you post over and over and over again, they become real?

Shit can really be eaten.
Shit can really be eaten.
Shit can really be eaten.
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Shit can really be eaten.

Now go eat shit and stop treating us like kids without brains as you are.
09/12/2021 9:15 AM

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2021-12-09 09:33 |

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alenac

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Posted by alenac > 2021-12-09 09:35 | Report Abuse

External auditors are paid by the company they audit. External auditors are not god. They failed they pay for negligence. Sardine lose everything for relying on failed auditors. So beware.

BobAxelrod Well said, and so true. But many investors depends on reputable External Auditor to scan their accounts.

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2021-12-09 09:36 |

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muhfiq

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Posted by muhfiq > 2021-12-09 09:38 | Report Abuse

Much uncertainties

Will bounce back

But need more thorough execution

superrr

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Posted by superrr > 2021-12-09 09:42 | Report Abuse

Mabel 6o+ living in dream every day, no realistic thoughts with Titanic, Kate, Leonardo...no wonder that your EPF is all stuck in sd with hopeless like Titanic... haha

BobAxelrod

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Posted by BobAxelrod > 2021-12-09 09:42 |

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alenac

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Posted by alenac > 2021-12-09 09:45 | Report Abuse

From his expression on the outside with 5 millions fan, he has to put brave front or confidence. It is showmanship of a once powerful man in bolehland. Internally, can he sleep as sound of Mabel the cat? Karma rips your soul and inner spirit gradually.

Posted by BobAxelrod > Dec 9, 2021 9:36 AM | Report Abuse

Karma?...still too early to say and the fat lady yet to sing. Anything goes, but 2/3 (High Court and COA) already done and dusted, leaving Federal. May take 4-6 months but should be less than 1 year as DrM predicted. Also, he cannot contest in GE before Federal clears or stay.

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