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(Icon) I Better Not Say Anything About Rimbunan Sawit

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Publish date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014, 04:55 PM
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I follow the smell of money.

I was about to write an article to explain why Rimbunan Sawit has good assets but badly managed.  But after seeing its share price so buoyant, I think I better shut up.  Dont want to spoil other people's livelihood (of making $ from the market)

peace...

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eftee

No harm sharing. I also not so happy with price. With so much land maturing in the next few years should be making money. I also will not keep it for long. Wait till this hot CPO blows over.

2014-03-06 17:04

Icon8888

Ok maybe I tune it down. Present the facts, etc but avoid using dramatic language like "mismanage, better think twice, etc"

Can work ?

2014-03-06 17:09

Euscilyn

no matter what as long making $$$.

2014-03-06 17:22

Euscilyn

ha..ha.. good luck everyone. My Tp rm 1.05

2014-03-06 17:23

Tang Michael

R sawit is a good share but the management is stingy and not aggrssive enough to develope it , please do give us more info .any worh or phrase is as good if it fits into the facts. Waiting.......

2014-03-06 17:25

eftee

I think they dare not show too much. Were the land mostly carved out of timber land after harvesting the logs. You know the lobby by NGOs.

2014-03-06 17:39

5232050

maybee the trees are as old as the directors, way of their productive years

2014-03-06 18:37

Tee Kim Sai

please share if you know something that other people don`t know. Thank you.

2014-03-06 21:26

Icon8888

Studying. Will post

2014-03-06 21:29

Euscilyn

5232050 - As I know rsawit having a young tree and will be start harvest by 2014. Those old tree will cut off and replant again. For those directors I had no commend on it. But M'sian Chinese boss culture is typical type !!

2014-03-07 08:46

Icon8888

I haven't finished studying the while group. But a quick glance through the 2011 acquisition circular showed that FFB yield for one estates injected was 1 MT per ha. This is absolutely shocking, an indication of poor management. Just to give you a flavour of my coming article, it is unlikely to be pretty

2014-03-08 14:13

Ricky Kiat

from my source, rimbunan sawit havn't exercise land treatment yet when they starting planting at peat soil land compare with sop or jtiasa. So FFB yield may not compete with other sarawak plantation company.

2014-03-11 07:24

speakup

Jtiasa & Rsawit both same owners. The Tiong family.

2014-03-11 07:26

Ricky Kiat

rimbunan sawit earlier new planting are not exercise land treatment.

2014-03-11 09:50

Icon8888

Aborted. Impossible to analyze. They reported monthly CPO production but not FFB. As such, no way I can figure out how much FFB they produce (CPO production figure is meaningless as the FFB can be from external source).

2014-03-11 10:00

Ricky Kiat

Icon888, rimbunan sawit are start given FFB amount start from this Feb, their FFB is 36722 T .Hopefully u can start analyze again.

2014-03-12 07:55

Ricky Kiat

Feb cpo 4217 MT

2014-03-12 07:55

Icon8888

ricky kiat, i saw that. Like what you said, they only started doing that in Feb 2014. One month figure is meaningless. I need at least 12 months.

hopeless company...

2014-03-17 19:42

Up_down

Icon. Another stingy company does not want to release more information of the company. If you look its acquisition few years back (> five years), Rsawit was actually bought many young plantation palm oil planted land. It's just you need to take more time to dig out those data.

2014-03-17 23:11

Icon8888

Up_Down, I have browsed through the circulars. Let me share something with you that will make you fall off your chair - one of the prime age estate they acquired produced ONE metric tonne of FFB per Ha.

PRIME estate

That is why they don't dare to show FFB trend.

Of course, the above mentioned FFB info was 2011 figure. But you can tell from there what kind of management skill they have

2014-03-17 23:33

Up_down

They started to dish out FFB production since Jan 14. It seems Rsawit is more confident in revealing more information. All Jtiasa, Subur Tiasa & Rsawit are ultimately placed under the same Tiong's family. The management is not really that professional as what you said.

2014-03-18 11:49

Up_down

I would expect a FFB production growth of 10% as most of its young planted area acquired in Year 2008 & 2009 would enter maturity or prime stage.

FFB production
Year 2012 - 459,597 mt
Year 2013 - 424,502 mt
Year 2011 - 367,866 mt

2014-03-18 13:56

qqq3

looking at the chart reminds me of....one common cardinal sin.....


https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/qqq3/187899.jsp

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