NOTION VTEC BHD

KLSE (MYR): NOTION (0083)

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Last Price

0.95

Today's Change

+0.03 (3.26%)

Day's Change

0.925 - 0.96

Trading Volume

4,073,100


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16,545 comment(s). Last comment by titan3322 2 hours ago

25023

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Posted by 25023 > 2016-01-01 10:13 | Report Abuse

I say sack the chairman
Under his stewardship co went into all sorts of diversification and loss its pants
And big loss in forex with inordinate huge forward positions
Chairman has also sold down his stake
I don't see bright future if he remains
He must take full responsibility for the losses

kakashit

1,472 posts

Posted by kakashit > 2016-01-01 12:17 | Report Abuse

cleared at 42cents, haha, ciao

master_tan

690 posts

Posted by master_tan > 2016-01-04 11:47 | Report Abuse

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/sinchew_company_story/89046.jsp
NOTION集團

去年,馬股當屬強勢美元的天下,涉足半導體領域的NOTION原該笑逐顏開才對;然而,由於美元強漲使護盤工具慘虧,該公司總結2015財政年時卻淨虧1千349萬7千令吉,使股價徘徊於近7年新低。

財報數據顯示,NOTION在2015財政年期間,共面對4千523萬7千令吉的衍生產品虧損,護盤虧損儼然是該公司業績黯淡的罪魁禍首,否則業績將明顯更好。

然而,由於大部份護盤合約到期,加上馬幣兌美元在10至12月期間回升2.3%,NOTION來季不但可望收復部份護盤虧損,業績也將開始反映強勢美元利好;換句話說,NOTION將在下月公佈的首季業績,有望獲“雙料利好”撐腰,表現可期。

需補充的是,NOTION是家現金流極強的公司,過去兩年業績雖蒙虧,營運淨現金流仍高達5千800萬令吉,加上資本開銷只有2千100萬令吉,自由現金流顯得極可觀,因該公司市值只約1億2千萬令吉。

在情況最惡劣時,NOTION股價最低也僅報36仙。那麼,若該股接下來順利轉虧為盈,現有股價如同仍近谷底,這也是我們選中NOTION的主因。

master_tan

690 posts

Posted by master_tan > 2016-01-04 11:48 | Report Abuse

uptrend on the way.

master_tan

690 posts

Posted by master_tan > 2016-01-04 11:48 | Report Abuse

the next Comcorp

Posted by Khaw Seek Chuan > 2016-01-04 15:12 | Report Abuse

be prepared for big jump!!

cutie

1,690 posts

Posted by cutie > 2016-01-05 16:29 | Report Abuse

u right .... this is the next comcorp.

cutie

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Posted by cutie > 2016-01-06 15:54 | Report Abuse

Thank you so much for this info, Val. It will help us to buy or to sell.

Val-Elta

682 posts

Posted by Val-Elta > 2016-01-06 19:14 | Report Abuse

ok~~ noted.

Val-Elta

682 posts

Posted by Val-Elta > 2016-01-06 19:14 | Report Abuse

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master_tan

690 posts

Posted by master_tan > 2016-01-07 10:24 | Report Abuse

with the RM strengthening in Dec quarter, Notion will have Derivative Gain compare with Derivative loss previous quarter.

Beside, the revenue will have Forex Gain , as RM has been weakening from ~3.7 previous quarter to RM4.40 Dec quarter.

As such, I foresee the coming earning release will be positive, and possible of dividend to be given, since company is net cash company.

With announcement of dividend stimulation, stock price might goes up above 80sen.

Val-Elta

682 posts

Posted by Val-Elta > 2016-01-07 11:50 | Report Abuse

I leave coverage to you :) I may have spoken too much previously. Lol.
Still, interesting times is ahead I believe.

Val-Elta

682 posts

Posted by Val-Elta > 2016-01-07 19:10 | Report Abuse

Good news indeed!! It means the buyer have holding power.... I don't see TH selling near term

JYap

39 posts

Posted by JYap > 2016-01-07 21:48 | Report Abuse

Yeah.....

Posted by blacktulip > 2016-01-07 23:23 | Report Abuse

I believe TH was the buyer doing the last minute window dressing. TH did not buy the whole day while price was only .405 Last minute grab more than a million shares at 42 sen. What is the motive?

Posted by iloveshare128 > 2016-01-08 13:48 | Report Abuse

Val-Elta, can you share your view on the high directors' fees?
Do you think this is reasonable or the directors are taking too much?
Thanks.

Posted by iloveshare128 > 2016-01-08 14:55 | Report Abuse

Hi Val-Elta, do you know why there is a huge loss in 2014 (-RM27.7million / -10.34sen EPS)? If the loss for 2015 was due to forex derivative hedging, what was the cause for 2014 loss? Thanks.

Posted by blackout87 > 2016-01-08 15:30 | Report Abuse

No the fees r not reasonable now, but they were set when the company was making 50m per year. Even then it was high. 2014 was largely due to over expansion from expected orders from slr, but as the market crashed...

Posted by blackout87 > 2016-01-08 15:31 | Report Abuse

The slr market, so the machines bought were idle. But these machines were used for other products as the year passed by.

master_tan

690 posts

Posted by master_tan > 2016-01-08 18:56 | Report Abuse

Value cap has accumulating notion......

Posted by blackout87 > 2016-01-09 00:41 | Report Abuse

how do u know their accumulating notion?

stainlyho37

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Posted by stainlyho37 > 2016-01-13 11:41 | Report Abuse

this company should perform better than DUFU interm of size & customers base....just watch out how it recover ...my 1st. TP :0.55

master_tan

690 posts

Posted by master_tan > 2016-01-13 19:24 | Report Abuse

Just wait for the price breakout.....it should happen anytime soon from now.

kakashit

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Posted by kakashit > 2016-01-14 20:58 | Report Abuse

not so good, even the Chu family wanted to get away after tcf

Audi5

15 posts

Posted by Audi5 > 2016-01-14 22:25 | Report Abuse

Tcf should gone yesterday .

Posted by blackout87 > 2016-01-14 22:30 | Report Abuse

i dont understand, everyone is making so much money. How is it that the directors are selling?

Audi5

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Posted by Audi5 > 2016-01-15 00:42 | Report Abuse

Maybe they leave the shit to other .

sherlock

306 posts

Posted by sherlock > 2016-01-15 00:56 | Report Abuse

FLBHD's shareholder started selling share from RM1.30,but price keep raising till RM2.90

MAGNI's shareholder started selling from RM2.30,price also keep moving up till RM4.60 today,even after bonus issue

just 45day ago,CHEEWAH's shareholder started selling share from RM1.12,all the way till today,but the share today closed at RM1.90.

same thing happen on NOTION,MR.TCF sold his share at RM0.38-0.39 three month ago,but today,NOTION closed at RM0.435.

think harder, u should know rationale behind.

Posted by SuperBoys > 2016-01-19 21:28 | Report Abuse

GH

kt888 88

313 posts

Posted by kt888 88 > 2016-01-20 13:41 | Report Abuse

GOOD CHANCE TO BUY AT 0.395

Posted by blackout87 > 2016-01-27 13:24 | Report Abuse

Should be about 7mil

Val-Elta

682 posts

Posted by Val-Elta > 2016-01-27 14:01 | Report Abuse

Don't want to say too much d, yes, blackout's figure is realistic, and is most probable. At best, it could be higher, or even much higher.
At worst, should be 5m profit at least.

Val-Elta

682 posts

Posted by Val-Elta > 2016-01-27 16:04 | Report Abuse

as always, do your own homework to confirm, or to deny if what others say make sense or not...

master_tan

690 posts

Posted by master_tan > 2016-01-29 23:16 | Report Abuse

Jan RM is at around 4.4 and with RM strengthening, this quarter Notion will enjoy derivative gain again, as long as RM don't go beyond 4.40

Posted by blacktulip > 2016-01-30 06:46 | Report Abuse

For this coming Feb results derivative gain is based on 4.29 per usd the rate on 31 dec. For the may results we hv to wait for the end of march xch rate. Lets hope the RM appreciates but not too much. Weak RM good for xports com.

master_tan

690 posts

Posted by master_tan > 2016-01-31 12:07 | Report Abuse

~1.5 mil

Val-Elta

682 posts

Posted by Val-Elta > 2016-01-31 15:39 | Report Abuse

1.5 is a realistic figure.
Your 77m value is incorrect. At the end of december, the figure should be ard 50m
(Some of the contract is realized at oct, nov, dec)

So the actual formula is realized gains at oct, nov, dec ~7m of contract settlement per month + unrealized gain of ~50m marked to 4.29

The actual calculation is a bit more complex, there seems to be indication that the M2M happens on a monthly basis.... (so ignoring the actual much complicated calculations) sum of realized + unrealized is accurate at 1.5-2m

Val-Elta

682 posts

Posted by Val-Elta > 2016-01-31 15:50 | Report Abuse

Few more weeks to go.... there's also some other promising figures, on a Y2Y basis... So, I'm a bit more optimistic now. Let's hope that the Q result is as per my expectations...

master_tan

690 posts

Posted by master_tan > 2016-02-01 15:42 | Report Abuse

Other that derivative gain, there should be forex gain too , right ?

Val-Elta

682 posts

Posted by Val-Elta > 2016-02-02 10:27 | Report Abuse

think he's just staying quiet I guess.. apparently posting too much here is not a good thing as well. Really no volume here... have to wait the Q result.
For another news... Nikon share price is at 1 year high...

Val-Elta

682 posts

Posted by Val-Elta > 2016-02-04 13:58 | Report Abuse

Off topic a bit, what's your investment profile and experience klse?

Val-Elta

682 posts

Posted by Val-Elta > 2016-02-04 14:39 | Report Abuse

ok, good to see some experienced head here...

Posted by blackout87 > 2016-02-06 12:37 | Report Abuse

The management has been nothing short of a major disappointment. I wonder why the quality havent been resolved after 2 years?

Posted by blackout87 > 2016-02-06 12:38 | Report Abuse

no further progress on increased sales or product lines for their automotive. They used to focus on antidisc for HDD, they can actually diversify to other parts of the HDD

master_tan

690 posts

Posted by master_tan > 2016-02-09 17:50 | Report Abuse

Gong xi fa cai to all

Posted by blackout87 > 2016-02-10 21:44 | Report Abuse

Huat ahh... Notion let me Huat please

Posted by blackout87 > 2016-02-12 17:53 | Report Abuse

Bloody frustrating

Val-Elta

682 posts

Posted by Val-Elta > 2016-02-13 10:17 | Report Abuse

What's ur expectations for the current q results?
Jan and now Feb, the forex is around 4.1x so very likely again derivatives gain for next q result too. US interest rate increase if happens in may or June will be perfect timing to push USD higher again. By that time notions derivatives will be almost finished, and gains in forex will be beneficial.
There is actually some signs that Notion managed to diversify its business in this year...(2015) so I'm glad to at least see that their excess machining capacity can still be put to use...

Posted by blackout87 > 2016-02-14 02:45 | Report Abuse

I am looking more towards their ongoing biz, as well as the ridiculous management compensation scheme they have going on.

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