no matter who helm the MAS now, to turn the company around into profitable company year by year will require a very tough decision (which will not abandon halfway). And any good measure to turn it around at this moment will not happen due to interruption from the MAS UNION.
The conclusion is, as long as MAS UNION is powerful enough to have a talk in any decision making by MAS management OR MAS management always have to accept/altered their stance with UNION view.....MAS will not be a profit making company.
so, the only way MAS can start making money is when they implement the re-structuring, job-cutting, saving cost, and any steps without fear and favour of the UNION.
MAS is not totally a lousy counter/company....but for now, with such a decision making team, interruption from UNION, interruption from POLITICS....MAS "very hard" to turn into profitable company...
any BUY on MAS shares now will need a very long holding power until the scenario change. on SHORT TERM, i only see downwards at the maximum of 28 sens(fair value for the moment)
Fair comment..I also agree..but respect the way U word it..I think everyone here feel the fair comment from u Every one knows that MAS has a problem..but to judge this counter As some people here..not so fair..
Public toilet is to serve ppl. U can't make money fr public toilet. Ppl come in to take the tissue and use the water, then leave the shit there for the gov to flush it down.
AA is on different platform than MAS..and AA can easily making money due to different style of management and creativity.....on the service part, different people, different view..
IF we are talking bout the company shares,profitability, future direction.....AA do stand out far ahead than MAS.
actually, it's not hard to turn MAS into profitable company due to support from govt, BUT when everyone trying/forcing themself to have a SAY in managing a company, that company will not go anywhere and the losers are investors and govt themself.
yea.....as long as just paper lost, is still ok.......there still chances to go higher than 60 sen.........just dunno when....unless our govt do the extreme measure,like selling MAS to private firms or putting someone with passion to turn it around without the interruption of politics....
without those measure coming, all the current investor/share holder can do is.......HOPE........
based on current and history of political culture in MALAYSIA, such measure will NOT happen. tat is why i say "EXTREME" measures which i dare say, no CURRENT POLITICAL FIGURE would dare to take.....
so.....just pray for miracle...otherwise, just continue hold and hope...
.31 or 27 cts, 10% or 3-4 sens difference...imho I don't see this as significant difference to cause buying indecision in medium term scenario or looking at MAS price chart. It is more a question of either you want to buy MAS or not. Should one buy at 27 cents it doesn't create so much advantange unless you buy in millions.
agree with deadwood......if u see the potential and willing to hold for long term, waiting for lower price or buy now will not make any difference....but for those who intends to buy and hoping the price to shoot up in near terms....tis just very hard to happen for now.....:)
<<<<<<<Posted by arv18 > Jun 7, 2013 11:28 PM | Report Abuse
let me illustrate my point for the "small players".
Suppose you have RM1500 in February 2013 (earlier this year) to invest? What to do? You also buy MAS. Also could buy MAS. But you want to make money really really badly. Let me show...
Suppose you use a broker like HLe-broking or Maybank (so brokerage is cheap)
In Feb, AeonCR - 10.68. so you buy 100 shares. Spend RM1068 + RM10 +RM1 etc...
Cost around RM1079 (still have around RM400 cash for beer money) .... Today AeonCR closed 16.72
Therefore Theoretical Gain = RM 1672 - RM1079 = RM593 (in % thats is a 54.96% gain in 3 MONTHS!) - Wow! Still got CASH to SPEND lorrr!
in Feb, MAS - 0.695. wow! cheap cheap you think. so you buy maximum. 2100 shares (so sad, no beer money!).
Cost is RM1469.50 (still have only RM 20 for one glass of beer for yourself, so sad)....today MAS closed 0.33 SEN
Therotical Gain RM 693 - RM 1469.50 = -766.50 (Loss of 52.52%) AIYOH!!! no spare money for beer to drown sorrow lorrr! >>>>>>
i think the calculations of MAS is not correct.. based on pre-cash call price 0.695 and after cash call 0.375 - 0.405 and free 4 X MAS-OR (0.10).
IF u SELL everything on MAS-OR(0.10) and just keep MAS on listing day, means the total you have now is RM 840 (before minus commission) + RM 693 (based on 0.33 price) = RM 1533 - RM1469.50(cost) = about RM 63 profit.
by the way....there is too much possibility which i will not dwell since the price of MAS and MAS-OR have already shown in their graph. :)
The country might go bankrupt but NOT MAS , far above the privilege ......... "charity by guarantee" can never be subjected to bankruptcy " , right !!!!
MAS will not go bankrupt,at interval of 2 -3 years, the government will need to inject money to make MAS running, if we want MAS to survive by herself, we need to change the Federal Government first, otherwise , we need to inject money into it from time to time.
:clap: :clap: :clap: Wow. Alien79. Genius!!! You COMPLETELY MISSED the POINT!!!
-This is an EXAMPLE how how the DUMB MONEY thinks. Tak boleh AJAR dan SOMBONG
ALien79. Answer this for all please:
1) What is SHARES OUTSTANDING? 2) Whats is # MAS SHARES OUTSTANDING? 3) What is MAS Market Cap TODAY? - The answer will BLOW your mind! 4) MCap for MAS should be RM2 BILLION (being VERY generous here)
THIS being the case...
5) What is FAIR VALUE (Hint: 2 BILLION DIVIDE/BY SHARES OUTSTANDING) = ?
Now Below is the 5 Year Performance for MAS vs the KLCI
1 week 1 month 6 months 1 year 5 years Malaysian Airline System Bhd -5.80% -9.72% -15.26% -39.95% -74.74% BURSA MALAYSIA KLCI IDX +0.16% +0.41% +8.41% +12.74% +44.77%
Now ANSWER me this....
IF our BELOVED Government wanted MAS to SUCCEED....WHY the F**K did they let MALINDO into MALAYSIA???
So God will HANTAM their wallets because they BERJUDI with their childrens' education funds - which means their children will be as BODOH as them....and the vicious cycle continues!!!
1 WEEK 1 MONTH 6 MONTHS 1 YEAR 5 YEARS Malaysian Airline System Bhd -5.80% -9.72% -15.26% -39.95% -74.74% BURSA MALAYSIA KLCI IDX +0.16% +0.41% +8.41% +12.74% +44.77%
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
I wish ALL my stocks can perform like that wan!!!!!!!!!
This book is the result of the author's many years of experience and observation throughout his 26 years in the stockbroking industry. It was written for general public to learn to invest based on facts and not on fantasies or hearsay....
mohadir
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Posted by mohadir > 2013-06-11 12:22 | Report Abuse
when our MAS can fly again. any idea.