hehe..thanks @jerichomy highlight this.. now paktua know klse is haram.. no wonder TH,kwap AHAP,play at bskl.. klse haram rupanya.. so bskl je yg halal hehe..
aiyoyo mkt turn down all sorts ghost stories appear,hehehe....come come short klse thru fkli n puts....recover some....dunno after posting this klee is labelled what....wakaka
Wah PAKTUA 73....YOU APPEAR FTOM WHERE ARH.. EAH WHEN PAKTUA APPEARS, MARKET SPRINGING BACK TO REAL ACTION. WHAT TO BUY ARH, PAKTUA....HEHE....WALAUYEAH...YSBODOO
Funny how some tried to link paktua73 to IBs because of race. Leave him alone unless what he said correctly step on your toes. Real sick people, keep going around attacking others.
About the IBs. The master might be Malay but the henchmen are Chinese and Indian, and they are here, twist and turn every stories using different names. The manner of their writing skill gave up their identity and some belong to the same person/running dog.
@paktua, I thought I was young and naive, but Paktua seems to be more innocent. Kartel IB remisier? I don't believe the reasoning holds water, or perhaps I lack of market knowledge. My thought, regardless conventional remisiers or IB remisiers, they make money through commissions from investor stock transactions. They more share change of hand, the richer they get. Hence, will pour sand into their food? A hundred thousand new accounts were established each month during the previos gloves mania. The volume of trade increased dramatically, and all of the remisier made huge profits. They like such gurus because they aid in the recruitment of new investors and suggest stocks for them to purchase, whilst IB merely sits and shakes his or her legs. One might argue IB try to killed this guru as they has cause them to lose money in the warrant. This is even more ridiculous argument to me. Please check how many new warrant issued during the glove mania era and pls look at the premium and gearing. So, will you want kill the golden goose?
On your second point, I disagree with your with your point of hide all your recommendations and only discuss them with high rank team members. If the guru is so amazing, he doesn't need to share with anyone. Buy quietly and profit handsomely. The goal of sharing is to get more people to buy, which creates demand and drives up prices. Isn't that the entire point?
Let me share a little of my personal experience. I attended a few seminars from some of these gurus, some of which were free two-hour seminars and others of which were paid. After his two-hour free presentation, one of these gurus will put out a sheet of paper discreetly with several possible stocks and their target prices. And everyone swarm to the table to copy it or takes photos as if it is a secret to prosperity. Guess what, much of this stock was up the next day. I used to tell myself back then, DAMM!!! he's good.
In addition, I attended a paid seminar. The seminar begins at 8 a.m., and the guru has recommended one stock in his opening speech. It had closed at more than 50 cents the day before. It reached 70+ cent at tea break and 80+ cent during lunch break. The guru even jokes that this is crazy and he himself didn't have time to buy. talk about the power of influence eh?
So I questioned myself, "Am I in the top 10%, 20% in his follower pyramid, or am I the bottom 30% or 40% of the pyramid?" Anyway, disregard my chattering.....^_^
First of all ,you must understand what it mean by cartel!They are form to win in everything!Nobody can challange them.They control everything!They dont let you win.
crack spread up, worry about hedging loss. crack spread down, all forgot the function of hedge. Third quarter Hedging Gains. Huge profit for second and third quarter.
And stop whining about your unfounded theories and all nonsense here about the stock market investors. Your lousy and inexperience knowledge brought you into this state and not others. Some little men trying to scam and influence but someone got you first. All with hidden motive and personal agenda but failed miserably. This is what you get if there is no certain group of investors looking at the stocks. Barter stock market. Stop your silly speculations and focus on making a good return here. All type of pro claimed crooks what master, sifus and gurus. The real one wont bother coming to public forum.
phoebe..thanks for good sharing.. paktua respect your view n opinion.. we always agree n disagree but.. we still be good buddy n friend..
paktua share bcoz know we got cartel in on group of IB.. my be we still remember soros.. mybe many not know kartel who use their shadow hand manipulate penny stock by create warrant,pp,etc..
now their more advance using their skill n all facility to create momentum n take control the rally trend.. remember this ib cartel is legal n use loophole of trading law to manipulate the some of stock..
not regular ib in regular bank.. this cartel is like mogul fund use legal institutions bank fund
now all market world from Hongkong till usa(remember gamestop?)have own cartel.. in here cartel IB underground fund control almost penny stock.. mybe all well known about this..
this not wayang..this is real cartels.. make money by using favorite stock.. pick by famous guru..
tut tut tak dpt nak explain panjang..tapi kartel ni dah makin berkuasa kini..
Remember to SELL if you happened to jump into the ship yesterday morning. That only complete a good investment. It's 3-6%. If you want to aim higher until 4.50, make sure you have stop loss plan as mentioned. 1 RM trading range for now. Make the profits from the naïve and innocent crooks here.
@phoebe I usually don't write much but since it is you, I share my view if it's ok.
There are many ways for IBs to make money in stock unlike us. By no means, earning commission is one of it but it's the least of it. They do buy shares, tell their clients the potential and make money from it when it rise. As such, having a cartel of understanding between a few IBs is not uncommon. They spread potential news on particular stock in some cases and make money together. This is the same with syndicates who had goreng many penny stocks to sky-high prices too. No idea if they have grudges to grind with gurus, for that, have to ask them directly..IBs of M, A and C.
The share market is not a one-man's island, worldwide are the same. It needs every shareholder to push up or down. That's where good news and bad news come to play. And the market will react. In Bursa, bad news far outreach good news and so it keeps going down. And that's where certain pricks keep hoarding the comment section with relentless bad news, hoping it continues going down and you curiously wonder, will they ever make money out of it. You did say that in seminar, one recommendation will spike the price. Will it not be the same, one trashing the stock will cause a chain reaction?
Everybodyhuat @paktua73 I suspected the same that since 2020 there are some cartel IBs battling these gurus, hitting hard on the stocks that they recommend. Good stocks turned to dust but they don't care, as long as gurus all failed. Retailers became the biggest casualties and the whole KLSE weakened. Usually, chinaman companies are attacked the most.
Don't be surprised that there are a few of these agents here. Repetitively attacking nonstop daily and if you check their profiles, their comments are centred to just condemning only. No liking but wish the stock dead. So happy when the stock price drop, so happy retailers lose. Malaysia bodoh boleh ya. Can you spot the agent provocateurs?
There are a variety of characters in i3. This is to be expected. If the stock one recommend can prove the nay sayers wrong, then the stock will still fly. If HY can post a PAT of RM500 - RM600 M in Q2 2022 as projected by sifu here then the stock would not be at current price of 4.17. We have less than 2 months to find out.
@paktua, I first write a long response about Soros and Gamestop but decide not to share it because winning this argument will not bring me any money. As a result, I deleted everything. Anyway, Thank you for being a gentleman and responding positively.
@everybodyhuat I harbour no grudges towards anyone. It's the same logic in that it won't make me any money, recoup my lost. Won't it be the same if one thrash the company? Perhaps, but if the company's fundamentals are sound, it will ultimately recover.
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You can say what you like and want and don't push over the boundaries with your wild speculations. Hearsay and being one into the real situation is two different thing. Just because you are naïve and lost some money, you put up all those nonsense and theories ? Stock market mechanism remains a myth and influenced by dozens of valid factors. Be very cautious with statement before you will be invited for a coffee drink one day. Some in this room are very fortunate until now. The way little men trying to adopt the big boys here and now you got what you want. Just focus on the share price, value and volume and some comments does help. The current price factual is the ultimate answer for all the ego arguments here.
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