Honestly. I miss you. I miss listening to your demented meow meow writing even when the writing is on the wall for SD. u need to check eyesight also, plantation have been red for quite a while and yet u still see green. I enjoy a good distraction once in a while.
From bottom of my heart, please do not wait too long before posting. TQ ....................................................................................................
aha my Poor Babies..Rindu ke?
Mabel has been busy helping the floods victims (made 4 Donation to 4 NGOs to help the Victims), thanks to Mabel Plantations which is so Green and Lovely..
No knowledge of corporate audit workings yet talk and talk and talk.
External auditors work for shareholders. They DONT work for management.
1) Auditors play a role in prevention and detection of fraud 2) The external auditors do not report to senior management 3) External auditors line of reporting is to the audit committee, the majority of whom are independent directors as per SD INED team.
Prudentinv The most unusual thing happen is that auditor reporting direct to independent directors. Here there are obvious 2 fractions.
@Prudentinv, There's no problem for auditor to report directly to independent director if they found serious accounting issue. The independent director is suppose to be the check and balance role in corporate governance, overseeing the managing directors and ensure the directors are not using the company for their own interest. Imagine the CEO cook the book, do you think he will admit to the auditor? Thus the subsequent action is to communicate the issue with the independent directors, if there is a strong case, the independent directors, especially the risk committee, should challenge the issue with the managing directors at the board level. If the managing director is the sole largest shareholder, usually it will end up the independent directors resigning, since there's nothing much they can do.
External auditors are only supposed to report to Independent Directors. I had attended many such Audit Committee meetings at luxurious resort hotels 4 figures per night.
Auditing is dynamic and changing in line with dynamic world. SD has been dynamic from local projects to oversea projects and diversification of business from conventional oil and gas to IT venture even aviation and outer space programs etc.
The objective of the audit is very simple ie to ensure all the payables and receivables , fixed assets ,cash at bank etc reflected in the Balance sheets are verifiable beyond reasonable doubts. Where there is doubt in any of these components, the external auditors must raise the red flag.....There is nothing wrong for them to do so in discharge of their professionalism.
Audit approach is not necessarily the same every year. Further approaches may need to be taken to confirm the veracity of the transactions and reinforce audit assurance. There is nothing wrong with that .
other company use different regulation in sebak, karim is the one who do the FRAUD accounting therefore kpmg or EY or whichever auditor must only report to karim. Sekian.
What is not ok is the payables,receivables, fixed assets, inventory and cash at bank are not verifiable . If 50% of Balance values are not verifiable, meaning 50% is fake...
For SD , what is the % of real and the % of fake ? You should know better
In normal Bursa companies, the Audit Committee sits to
1) Approve the Proposed Audit Plan for the year. 2) Answer any Management Points Raised, ask queries, evaluate red flags, 3) Answer Management Letters, request more audit procedures if necessary. 4) Approve the Completion of Audit for the Year.
Management is never involved in any audit matters at all. Serba is really a weird company, if management controls the audit process, this means all this reporting to management are either weird or pure lies and more lies.
Why want to stop the SIR update if it is "documentary hearsay evidence" even though it will affect other suits against EY and Bursa? Where it can be thrown out by the judges, as they are hearsays only. Let the public judge "the hearsays". Apa mau malu?
Serba Dinamik seeks to expunge E & Y’s Factual Finding Update report given to Bursa
SD should hire Taiwan Lee Hom marketing team to advertise SD after so many years of good marketing image... Not current SD promoter like primary school level want to lie also no fact and logical.. Lying low EQ investor can la but smart investor like shit... SD boss Karim should go find Lee Hom marketing team for help..
Lee Hom team also is no help lah, his team is everywhere putting down fire as a brand after brand terminating him as a promoter. Serbak needs a buyer with at least RM2 billion cash to take over from Chef.
RexKing SD should hire Taiwan Lee Hom marketing team to advertise SD after so many years of good marketing image... Not current SD promoter like primary school level want to lie also no fact and logical.. Lying low EQ investor can la but smart investor like shit... SD boss Karim should go find Lee Hom marketing team for help.. 21/12/2021 3:19 PM
How independent is the independent directors (ID)?
Majority of them(ID) are independent "by name" only but in actual fact , ID are sitting under the shadow of Dr.K . Those who are not , have already resigned to distance themselves from Dr.K and the mess ........
Losers thinks if a company pays the auditor, then the auditor have a duty to audit it according to the company wishes. Then like this why sit at home? Everybody go set up a company and then tell their auditor their company got millions of projects and trillions of profit and quad trillion cash in then bank.
Think logically lah. Lose money liao dont go lose your brain.
Then somemore say why auditor go report to independent directors. Hello, they are independent directors, not ceo. Independent directors are suppose to be some sort of check and balance in a board.
Think about it, if you found out your boss stealing electric from TNB, do you go tell your boss about it or you report to the police and tnb? Kpmg report to sc and bursa is the right thing to do.
Serbak is a clear cut of where IDs appointed do not know their role as nonexecutive directors, each one has a duty is to protect minority interests. but they end up protecting or being a spokesman of the management.
Posted by joyvest > Dec 21, 2021 3:31 PM | Report Abuse
yer,No ID sees eye to eye to Dr.K rather no ID wishes to live under the shadow of Dr.K
The way it goes, the most likely outcome now is for the company to be delisted like MAS to be put out of the limelight of Bursa and will undergo restructuring exercises.
if the existing shareholders are lucky, their share might be bought back by the company at certain price on the basis of " take it or leave it burned " It sounds like extortion , well thats the way it should be .
Buy helicopters never use to save people army equipment sitting in parking never use all wasted money bolehland hope war comes soon so that super change will happen
The 2 high calibre INEDs were supposed to be able to help SD in their lawsuit strategies.... but failed.. so they have no choice but to resign with some strong departing words....Karim and Kadier have no advisors now.... don't think they'll have court ruling in their favour... looks like AR won't be out this month too... the window to salvage themselves is closed.
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Posted by AlsvinChangan > 2021-12-21 14:26 | Report Abuse
Low educated people really stand out