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(Icon) A Warning To Mr. Bear

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Publish date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018, 01:27 PM
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I follow the smell of money.

* This artice was originally published on 24 August 2015. I am reproducing it to welcome Mr. Bear's come back (after last round being defeated by us kow kow) *

 

Dear Mr. Bear,

 

You have a lot of fun recently. 

 

You growl, you thunder, you bare your fangs. 

 

You scared many people. But you can't scare me. 

 

I WILL FIGHT YOU

 

I dare you to drag FBMKLCI down to 1,500, to 1,000, to 500, to 250. 

 

I dare you to drag our banking system into a crisis.

 

I dare you to drag our economy into a recession.

 

I have got all my bullets ready. And I am going to fire at you. 

 

Bullet after bullet. Round after round.

 

I will be patient, I will be slow, I will be determined. 

 

But I will defeat you.

 

You will become my dinner. You will become Bear Rendang. You will become Bear Sashimi. You will become Bear Burger. You will become Bear Satay.

 

You have been warned.

 

Icon8888

 

Discussions
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CharlesT

So yr last year 15% return gone n becomes -1% as at now..

2018-04-04 17:01

GreatWarrants

Margin calls coming in. Break below 1800 points tomorrow.

2018-04-04 17:03

Up_down

It seems mid cap prices crashing.....too many options now. @@

2018-04-04 17:15

UnicornP

Actually every event will eventually rebound.
Great depression -> Asian Financial crisis -> 911 -> 2008 subprime -> Oil crash -> Brexit -> Trump won. lol

2018-04-04 17:18

Jon Choivo

Eh pls. Paper loss is more than that! :)

Cause 17% (actually) drop you need 18.3% to gain back. Not to mention i got much more money in the market now than what i started with last year.

CharlesT So yr last year 15% return gone n becomes -1% as at now..
04/04/2018 17:01

2018-04-04 17:29

Jon Choivo

And every event, people think wont rebound.

UnicornP Actually every event will eventually rebound.
Great depression -> Asian Financial crisis -> 911 -> 2008 subprime -> Oil crash -> Brexit -> Trump won. lol
04/04/2018 17:18

2018-04-04 17:30

CharlesT

Eventually everything will rebound...provided u survive thru first

2018-04-04 17:52

CharlesT

For those heavily in margin will kena 9966...dont play play...

2018-04-04 17:52

CharlesT

Dejavu to 2008 n 1998...

2018-04-04 17:53

Jon Choivo

CharlesT, im thinking of going into margin if my paper loss exceed 35% and i bolui.

Max margin limit is 50%

You got more experience in market than me. Safe enough boh?

2018-04-04 17:54

CharlesT

Timing is everything...so fast out of cash oredi..

2018-04-04 17:55

CharlesT

Use margin for good counters with consistent div at great discounts

2018-04-04 17:56

Jon Choivo

Haha i dont time market. And my name not warren buffet.

Only got 8% cash now =(

Hopefully this drop will drop summore and last longer.

2018-04-04 17:56

CharlesT

Bro icon8888 dont busy cooking seacucumber n waiting for durian runtuh...do keep us posted when the time is ripe

2018-04-04 18:00

VenFx

Kali ni ialah rumah runtuh kat ?
Nada buah durian,
China mau balas kenakan Trump...
Satu kampong ikut tunggu durian jatuh.

2018-04-04 18:08

OPMS

hahaha wait till grizzly bear dead..

2018-04-04 18:50

Jon Choivo

So what crash, just buy all the way down with cash and hold, kaotim loh.


Posted by myongcc5 > Apr 4, 2018 08:42 PM | Report Abuse

Icon, The last fought with bear in 2015 cud b very different fm current scenario!
It's better to b cautious as the melt down since beginning of tis year may turn into world financial crisis!
Unprotected capital may melt down to a point where many yrs needed to return, that is provided a strong company!
Many signs pointed to potential crash, just need a trigger!

2018-04-04 20:43

Jon Choivo

Haha not a trader. So i can just swallow all the way down.

2018-04-04 20:51

Jon Choivo

Good luck to you too.

May i suggest you consider value investing if crisis/downtrend happen.

Value investing works best when everything is dropping like flies. :)

2018-04-04 20:54

tecpower

Don't run away too fast.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said on Wednesday he expects trade actions between the United States and China will likely lead to a negotiated deal, but that it was unclear whether such talks would happen by the end of May or later.

"It wouldn't be surprising at all if the net outcome of all this is some sort of a negotiation," Ross said in an interview with CNBC. "It's very difficult to put a specific time denomination on negotiations that are as complex as these."

2018-04-04 21:12

tecpower

Haha

China's response is a surprise for some people," said Julian Evans-Pritchard, senior China economist at Capital Economics, noting that neither said had yet called for enforcement of the tariffs.

"It's more of a game of brinkmanship, making it clear what the cost would be, in the hopes that both sides can come to agreement and none of these tariffs will come into force," he said.

Beijing's list of 25 percent additional tariffs on U.S. goods covers 106 items with a trade value matching the $50 billion targeted on Washington's list, China's commerce and finance ministries said. The effective date depends on when the U.S. action takes effect.

2018-04-04 21:13

PotentialGhost

Lancau lo Malaysia market , now market same as 2008 , take money go fark girl first . LOL

2018-04-04 21:16

Jon Choivo

How to make big money like that?

The big money is made buying in crisis mah. You wait water clear d, big money people make d. And now the shark and crocodile all come in.


Posted by myongcc5 > Apr 4, 2018 08:56 PM | Report Abuse

I m both trader n value investor but will shun during crisis n b back when the water is clear!

Thanks fr yr suggestion!

2018-04-04 21:17

tecpower

Fed’s Bullard sees no reason to hike interest rates further
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/feds-bullard-sees-no-reason-to-hike-interest-rates-further-2018-04-04

2018-04-04 21:56

tecpower

This trade war will not happen. Bet on it. Expect a rally

2018-04-04 22:00

Alexâ„¢

Then trump said... Aiya... Trade war gg la... Cancel cancel...

2018-04-04 22:01

Up_down

Is it Trump trying to create reasons (chaos) to dump market sentiments pathing the way for FED board to block interest hike in the remaining months...high probability. lol

2018-04-05 11:51

Up_down

We may witness DJ to break new high in coming months in the absent of interest rates hike.

2018-04-05 12:40

UnicornP

Imo, people who play margin are greedy people.
If no money, don't play stock market.
If got enough money, just use the disposable one.

2018-04-05 13:08

aiinvestor

Trump retains positive approval rating in Missouri, but lags in many other key '18 Senate race states
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/trump-retains-positive-approval-rating-in-missouri-but-lags-in/article_d4c18fba-0bda-5fe0-8bf5-dcd7096b7e00.html

2018-04-05 23:00

aiinvestor

Trump’s Monthly Approval Rating Hits Record Low in March
https://morningconsult.com/2018/04/05/trumps-monthly-approval-rating-hits-record-low-in-march/

2018-04-05 23:01

feimah

Mr. Bear is staying for breakfast, tea break, lunch, branch, dinner and supper.

2018-12-23 16:42

yfchong

Bear bear is coming

2018-12-23 16:43

UnicornP

Don't fight the bear. Kill it instead by punting index put warrants. You can't fight the bear because official economic data is showing economic downturn coming which may eventually lead to recession. Or you may just hug your millions of cash and go hibernate until 2021 which is confirmed a bull market reborn.

2018-12-23 16:49

feimah

This coming recession will be massive. Our economy depend too much on oil, trade n export. Weak in domestic consumption coupled with higher tax. I think bull may return after 2021.

2018-12-23 16:59

freetospeak

the fed still can cut rate 9 x how to recession...lol

2018-12-23 17:04

jellyfish

dont be surprise if there will not be a recession as trump seek re-election as president and china economy slow , they will give n take and announce a trade deal

2018-12-23 17:11

jellyfish

feb will pause on rate hike as dow drop..

2018-12-23 17:13

feimah

The major U.S. stocks indexes accelerated declines in the last hour of trading after White House trade adviser Peter Navarro said the United States and China might not reach a trade deal at the close of a 90-day negotiating window unless Beijing can agree to a profound overhaul of its economic policies.

2018-12-23 17:21

J For Janice

When next year jan come,the democrat will impeach trump

2018-12-23 17:27

jellyfish

us indexes dropped last fri because of the us goverment impending shut down due to the border budget dispute

2018-12-23 17:28

feimah

All news indicates it will head south till new year

2018-12-23 20:20

UnicornP

Hmmm... Looks like people gave no shet about the bear..

2018-12-24 11:42

Nicholasming91

I guess the bear even doesnt want to be a bear anymore..

2018-12-24 11:42

UnicornP

I guess stock market works like this.
Firstly a bad event like 911 or recession fear comes. Then the panic ones all exit first, left those unafraid ones holding. Then after a while interested outsiders came buying bit by bit while the fearful ones still stay sideline. So at this point the stocks will start rising again. Then until a certain high point those fearful ones came in again chasing high. And bad event happens again, cycle repeats...
WOW IM SUCH A GENIUS !!!

2018-12-24 11:53

UnicornP

The most important point is you must exit before the panic ones rushing out. And collect when the market is quiet like Arctic.

2018-12-24 11:59

feimah

Lol.. LFM pushing high for this round. Not sure how long it may last.

2018-12-24 12:01

UnicornP

wat LFM?

2018-12-24 12:04

feimah

Local fund manager

2018-12-24 12:06

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