Posted by smartly > 2014-02-22 00:52 | Report Abuse

1MDB is another MAS in making...

Posted by JTFX > 2014-02-22 01:00 | Report Abuse

IMDB entered back door n screwed YTLP..Francis n johor royalty left in the dust..

Posted by Fat Cat Tim Buddy > 2014-02-22 06:09 | Report Abuse

what will happen after ex date of 1:20 treasury stock payout?

will the mother share price adjust accordingly just like normal dividend payout?

after the payout, treasury stock clear out 5%, and that means treasury stock is then =(9.xx% - 5% )?

Posted by Chan Siong Wei > 2014-02-22 14:25 | Report Abuse

after payout, will drop to 1.5

Posted by Seek > 2014-02-22 16:48 | Report Abuse

After payout the co will start sbb again? If sbb again the price should go up again?

Posted by Jerry > 2014-02-23 10:29 | Report Abuse

Bonus issue is not good for shareholder like you guys, i will prefer cancelation if im you. YTLP no dividend, no growth, and probably will be going worst if they still get any project before power contract ended in 2015. Bonus issue will dilute back the eps, and worst in 2015, now the only thing you can hope is they annouce take over, or else i will recomend you guys to sell now. If share buy back stopped, you guys will be trapped.

Posted by AliAbu > 2014-02-24 07:52 | Report Abuse

I will consider

Posted by leek > 2014-02-24 09:37 | Report Abuse

Yes, please sell... I find it hard to buy at low price

Posted by smartly > 2014-02-24 09:50 | Report Abuse

bonus issue ? you mean share dividend ?
bonus issue not exactly the same as shares dividend.

shares dividend from tresury shares.
bonus issue is from (blank). please fill in the blank if you know the answers. there could be more than 1 answer.

Posted by smartly > 2014-02-24 09:52 | Report Abuse

further more shares div would not dilute shares, so as eps.

Posted by denver > 2014-02-24 10:09 | Report Abuse

Jerry, it's a distribution of treasury share, not bonus issue. You are right as BI will dilute the eps, but it is not the case for YTLP

Posted by smartly > 2014-02-24 12:19 | Report Abuse

big sellers out now. :(

Posted by cclim88 > 2014-02-24 12:27 | Report Abuse

9k queue to sell at 1.70? :(

Posted by smartly > 2014-02-24 14:28 | Report Abuse

i think it is only temporary setback, will rebounce once sell off is done.

Posted by leek > 2014-02-24 14:40 | Report Abuse

Pls sell...

Posted by leek > 2014-02-24 14:49 | Report Abuse

I want to buy low

Posted by leek > 2014-02-24 15:13 | Report Abuse

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/in-the-edge-financial-daily-today/276842-ytl-powers-1h-core-net-profit-within-expectations.html

Posted by Peter5151 > 2014-02-24 15:40 | Report Abuse

Agreed with smartly

Posted by cclim88 > 2014-02-24 15:49 | Report Abuse

Agreed. If Project 4A and 4B is true, will go up again.

Posted by cclim88 > 2014-02-24 15:51 | Report Abuse

Besides, YES losses narrowing now. EPF selling for other's to collect again.

Posted by Peter5151 > 2014-02-24 15:56 | Report Abuse

Bonus share n distribution of share, definitely not the the same.

Posted by cclim88 > 2014-02-24 16:20 | Report Abuse

25k to sell at 1.70. The last time I saw in AirAsia lol...

Posted by smartly > 2014-02-24 17:14 | Report Abuse

epf is disposing as well beside lth. :(

Posted by smartly > 2014-02-24 17:16 | Report Abuse

at this juncture they still disposing, mean shares div consider no carrot to them.

Posted by smartly > 2014-02-24 17:17 | Report Abuse

we need sbb to resume. badly.

Posted by Fat Cat Tim Buddy > 2014-02-24 17:21 | Report Abuse

need good result la.. but have to wait 3 more months zzz... k.i.k.i.k.i lol.. T^T

either good result and lead to a good dividend payout policy, or a premium privatize, cash term is preferable, i dont really want ytl-corp share swap ..

Posted by hng33 > 2014-02-24 18:19 | Report Abuse

NO ORDINARY DELAY! 1MDB's late accounts puts spotlight on Cayman Islands deal - Tony
Written by Tony Pua

1MDB’s change of auditors from KPMG to Deloitte Malaysia is no ordinary change

After the expose I made last week with regards to the change of auditors for 1MDB, the company has confirmed in its statement on 21st February that it had appointed Deloitte, a Big 4 accounting firm, to complete the audit for the year ended 31st March, 2013, saying this was done after "it was mutually agreed with KPMG that the firm would cease to be 1MDB’s auditors."

Contrary to being accused of a suspicious move, 1MDB argued that "This is nothing special or new as it is in line with best market practice where companies decide on its current or future auditors after considering all aspects, including but not limited to conflict of interests and other consideration".

1MDB could not be more wrong, or we could perhaps forgive its management of attempting to make light of a very bad situation. There is no “best practice” in this world which says that it is perfectly normal to suddenly change auditors long after the accounts were overdue. Had the change been made well before the end of 1MDB financial year Mar 2013, there would have been little for us to question the company.

No ordinary delay

However, when the accounts are significantly delayed by nearly a year, and the auditor quits before it gets finalised, then surely every rakyat has the right to ask for an honest explanation. For example, why couldn’t the change of auditors be done only for the Mar 2014 accounts?

The irony is, the Managing Partner of Deloitte, Mr Tan Theng Hooi himself cited (The Star 2/8/2012) that the "failure to release financials on time is not acceptable and may indicate there could be unresolved accounting, management or other issues in hand”, when criticisng public listed companies for late publication of financial statements.

In Malaysia, as well as in countries like the United States, public listed companies are given only 6-8 weeks to report their quarterly accounts. While 1MDB isn’t a listed company, it is a sovereign wealth fund which is of even greater public importance, and it is only required to file its reports once a year! And yet, despite the appointment of KPMG, a top international accounting firm, it is overdue on its financial report by nearly a year.

1MDB gave the excuse that “its new business direction has helped it grown exponentially, requiring consolidation of new subsidiaries into the group” and hence the delay in its accounts. The excuse does not hold water because its acquisitions were not any more complicated than many carried out by some of our largest companies on the stock exchange – such as the Sime Darby acquisition of Guthrie and Golden Hope Plantations. And yet, these companies were able to finalise their accounts in a time manner in accordance to the stringent rules set by Bursa Malaysia.

Why go in when borrowing costs were so much higher than the returns

1MDB’s own response showed Cayman Islands “investment” doesn’t make any financial sense when the cost of borrowing is higher than the returns on investment!

In the same 21st February response to my earlier criticisms, 1MDB also defended its mysterious US$2.32 billion “investment” in Cayman Islands.

1MDB said it had “invested the proceeds with regulated and licensed international fund managers. These fund managers adopt an absolute return strategy of which the primary investment objective is to achieve long-term capital appreciation and/or steady income through investments in listed and/or unlisted companies".

"A total of US$200 million (RM658.9 million) has been remitted from the fund to the 1MDB group in Malaysia to service repayment. Out of this, US$134 million (RM430 million) is from the 5.76% cash dividend generated within the 1st year of the investment period.”

I’d like to thank 1MDB for highlighting the fact that it has received a 5.76% return in its first year of investment in the unnamed Cayman Island fund manager. Under normal circumstances, the 5.76% return may look acceptable, albeit a little mediocre. However, these are not normal circumstances.

The reason why the US$2.32 billion was invested in Cayman Islands in the first place is because 1MDB terminated and redeemed its 11-year loan to Petrosaudi International Limited in 2012, when the multi-part loans were to mostly mature in the year 2021. The loan to Petrosaudi, in the form of “Murabaha notes” commanded a guaranteed fixed interest (“profit rate”) of 8.67% per annum.

Hence it must be asked, why did 1MDB redeem its loan earning a guaranteed fixed return of 8.67% and invest in a fund manager in Cayman Islands which it refuses to name, giving a return of only 5.76%? Does that make any financial sense?

Posted by hng33 > 2014-02-24 18:20 | Report Abuse

However, even if we were to ignore the fact that the Murabaha Notes were paying a very profitable 8.67%, it must be reminded that 1MDB borrowed all the money used to make the above investments.

The bulk of 1MDB’s borrowings for the above investments were raised in 2009 via an Islamic loan facility “sukuk” where 1MDB had to pay 5.75% interest (“coupon rate”). In lay man’s terms, this means that 1MDB is borrowing money at 5.75% interest to invest in an anonymous Cayman Islands fund which gave a return of 5.76%! Does that make any financial sense?

Worse, 1MDB had offered the above sukuk at a massive 12% discount – meaning it only received RM87.92 in loan funds, for every RM100 it borrowed. But 1MDB has to pay 5.75% interest on the full RM100. Hence the effective interest rate payable by 1MDB for the sukuk is 6.71%. In lay man’s terms, this means that 1MDB is borrowing money at an effective interest of 6.71% to invest in an anonymous Cayman Islands fund which gave a return of 5.76%. What a fantastic investment strategy!

I look forward to being lectured by any fund manager who can justify the above 1MDB tailor-made investment strategy. The rational thing for 1MDB to do, which it must do, to avoid further embarrassing losses for the rakyat, is for the company to withdraw the funds from this Cayman Island fund-or-fund-manager-which-cannot-not-be-named to pay-off its sukuk debt, guaranteed by the Federal Government, costing 6.71% per annum.

Otherwise, the rakyat is forced to speculate if this mysterious US$2.32 billion investment in the secretive Cayman Island fund was the reason why "it was mutually agreed with KPMG that the firm would cease to be 1MDB’s auditors."

Tony Pua is the MP for PJ Utara

Posted by cgtan2020 > 2014-02-24 20:58 | Report Abuse

EPF sell before share dividend announcements

Posted by smartly > 2014-02-24 23:38 | Report Abuse

just like epf sell low buy high. LOL !!!

Posted by wcheat82 > 2014-02-25 00:11 | Report Abuse

I don't understand this share dividend. If i have 5500 shares. Will i get some odd lot shares? Or will they gave me cash dividend instead for the odd lot? Anyone pls help me understand. Thanks

Posted by Fat Cat Tim Buddy > 2014-02-25 05:43 | Report Abuse

odd lot, no cash dividend , so you top up some to make sure no odd lot , or sell some

Posted by smartly > 2014-02-25 10:18 | Report Abuse

no big sell q yet.

Posted by cclim88 > 2014-02-25 12:30 | Report Abuse

market will rebound if no big sell

Posted by chongbh2 > 2014-02-25 13:24 | Report Abuse

2 days no SBB jor

Posted by chongbh2 > 2014-02-25 14:55 | Report Abuse

hey hey , Today buy back 50 lots RM0.56

Posted by chongbh2 > 2014-02-25 14:55 | Report Abuse

ytlpower-wb

Posted by leek > 2014-02-25 15:23 | Report Abuse

Lol.... pls sell... I want to buy low....

Posted by leek > 2014-02-25 17:46 | Report Abuse

Sbb in big volume... lolz

Posted by smartly > 2014-02-25 17:49 | Report Abuse

sbb 2m for ytl.
sbb 10 lots for ytlp. :p

Posted by prahadude > 2014-02-25 17:58 | Report Abuse

10lots...........haha. at least they are back

Posted by hng33 > 2014-02-25 18:43 | Report Abuse

Treasury already reach 9.86%, very limited quota. However, if want sbb can still in action for about 10m share more before it reach 10%. Treasury stock will trim half after 11 Mar or till the treasury share is distribute and deposit into shareholder account, sbb is then expect to restart aggressively back again.

Posted by Seek > 2014-02-25 19:07 | Report Abuse

What signal is it buying 1000 shares? Might as well don't sbb!

Posted by leek > 2014-02-26 01:44 | Report Abuse

Sbb at ytl.... good good... can shoot up to 2.20.....

Posted by leek > 2014-02-26 08:16 | Report Abuse

Focus on ytl n ytlp-wb only... huatt lai liao

Posted by leek > 2014-02-26 08:18 | Report Abuse

Ytl plenty of cash now thanks to ytl cement... if no expansion of business, sbb will be very active

Posted by smartly > 2014-02-26 09:53 | Report Abuse

no excitement since sbb in absence.
need to wait till ex-date.

Posted by chongbh2 > 2014-02-26 12:45 | Report Abuse

hng33, the warrant excercise price will adjust to RM1.15 ?

Posted by Peter5151 > 2014-02-26 12:54 | Report Abuse

1.14

Posted by chongbh2 > 2014-02-26 13:03 | Report Abuse

i sold my pjdev-wc yesterday, now come back to ytlpowr-wb