Posted by dragon328 > 2023-11-29 12:08 | Report Abuse

If we look at other stocks under Utility sector:

Petronas Gas Q4 net profit RM477m, Maybank projects full FY2023 NPAT at RM1.8b, market cap at RM34b, PER at 18.9x

Gas Malaysia Q3 NPAT at RM86m, Maybank projects full FY2023 NPAT at RM384m, current market cap at RM4.0bn, PER is 10.4x

MFCB Q2 at RM88m, Maybank projects full FY2023 NPAT at RM386m, market cap at RM3.5b, PER at 9.1x.

The lowest valuation of peers is at 9.1x PER, average at over 20x.

YTLP should be valued at RM3.82 if based on 9.1x PER, and valued at RM8.40 if based on 20x PER.

Posted by dragon328 > 2023-11-29 12:10 | Report Abuse

I can see now that smart money is collecting tickets at RM2.35 while short term traders and short term funds take profit

Posted by moncmondo87 > 2023-11-29 12:11 | Report Abuse

dragon328, Again, very insightful.. So maybe the IBs now need time to set up new AUM funds, rope in investors public and private; then ..

Posted by PresidentLOL > 2023-11-29 13:06 | Report Abuse

so IB collect at 2.35, ofcourse need earn 100% right by them IB. So, 2.35 x 2 = RM4.70 in accordance to yahoo finance TP. Boleh tahan ini game.

Posted by redhotpepper > 2023-11-29 13:36 | Report Abuse

Ini kaunter boleh naik spai RM4 ka?

Posted by dragon328 > 2023-11-29 14:26 | Report Abuse

This counter will definitely reach RM4.00, just a matter of time. I would always advocate for long term investment holds, and you will always win.

I am not suggesting for anyone to enter into short term trades or chase high now, as I am not sure how long this round of consolidation will last. We should not under-estimate the amount of short term selling pressure.

Posted by MrFox > 2023-11-29 14:29 | Report Abuse

sangat bernas!!!!!!!!
When PE is low and fundmentals are good, u shud not be scared to invest!.
This is the VERY BASIC of investment!!!!!! Why?
Because downside risk is limited!!!!

Posted by cgtan2020 > 2023-11-29 15:08 | Report Abuse

以下是芒格留给投资者的10大金句：

1.我这辈子遇到的聪明人，没有不每天阅读的，没有，一个都没有。

2.你想得到某样东西，最好的办法是让自己配得上它。

3.不要与一头猪摔跤，这样你会全身弄脏，对方却乐此不疲。

4.大多数人都太急躁，担心太多。成功需要很冷静和耐心，机会来临时也要有足够的进取心。

5.最重要的不是你摸到什么牌，而是你能不能把手里的牌打好。

6.多谈谈你的失败历程，少吹嘘你的成功经历，这样对你好。

7.什么事往简单处想，往认真处行。

8.要赚大钱，不是买或卖，而是等待。

9.聪明人也不能免于过度自信带来的灾难。他们认为自己有更强的能力和更好的方法，所以往往在更艰难的道路上疲于奔命。

10.很多智商高的人是不好的投资者，因为他们的性格有缺陷。我认为好的性格比大脑更重要，你必须严格控制那些非理性的情绪，需要冷静、自律，也不能被狂喜冲昏了头脑。

​芒格

Posted by MrFox > 2023-11-29 15:09 | Report Abuse

When downside is limited, u certainly wont see the backside!!!! haha

Posted by jenson68 > 2023-11-29 15:17 | Report Abuse

Once again dragon328 boost our confidence to hold longer !! Appreciate for sharing & cheers!!

Posted by myloh123 > 2023-11-29 15:46 | Report Abuse

@dragon328...i agree wid u, this stock is grossly undervalued...based on 45sens eps x pe 8...sud b now at least rm 3.60

Posted by myloh123 > 2023-11-29 15:47 | Report Abuse

A lot of potential for upside 👍...hv faith guys!

Posted by myloh123 > 2023-11-29 15:49 | Report Abuse

I like ytl management too 👍

Posted by myloh123 > 2023-11-29 15:52 | Report Abuse

I'll attend d agm on 5th dec n see what they say...kikiki

Posted by MrFox > 2023-11-29 16:03 | Report Abuse

do u know y Jeri is not here now?????????????

Posted by MrFox > 2023-11-29 16:07 | Report Abuse

certainly i know!

Posted by Jonathan Keung > 2023-11-29 16:22 | Report Abuse

will there at the AGM. Asking the board guidance any possibilities on higher dividend payout in view of the YTLp sterling performance

Posted by OTB > 2023-11-29 16:26 | Report Abuse

I remember that Tan Sri Francis Yeoh promised a 15% dividend payout during an interview with the analysts.
Thank you.

Posted by dragon328 > 2023-11-29 16:39 | Report Abuse

During the upcoming AGM, pls remember to vote for the proposed company share buyback. As YTLP bosses always think that the current share price of YTLP is grossly undervalued, they will buy back shares aggressively at current low prices then distribute them as share dividends later. Company share buyback of 10% then subsequently cancelled out at treasury or distributed as share dividends will reduce outstanding share base by 10% and increase earnings per share by 10%. Good for all!

Posted by cgtan2020 > 2023-11-29 19:50 | Report Abuse

FTSE Bursa Malaysia Index Series
Semi-Annual Review December 2023 - Preliminary Result
29 November 2023
FTSE Russell announces the following semi-annual preliminary changes to the FTSE Bursa Malaysia KLCI Index and
FTSE Bursa Malaysia Mid 70 Index. The changes will be applied after the close of business on Friday, 15 December
2023 and will be effective on Monday, 18 December 2023.
Constituent changes can be accessed via the attachment below:

Inclusions

Company Name Local Code SEDOL
YTL Corp 4677 6436126
YTL Power International 6742 B01GQS6

Exclusions

Company Name Local Code SEDOL
Dialog Group 7277 B00MRS2
Westports Holdings 5246 BDFM1K8

Posted by mikekim > 2023-11-29 19:51 | Report Abuse

Congrats. Large institutional funds will now start buying into YTL Power to rebalance their portfolio, coupled with bullish early 2024 fed rate cut sentiment and year end Santa rally, supported by super strong fundamentals and cashflow at undemanding cheap 6x P/E valuations. Clear green skies ahead for the rest of 2023. Buy early and hold!

Posted by cgtan2020 > 2023-11-29 20:01 | Report Abuse

https://www.tradingview.com/x/PYW9B087/

Tomorrow will gap up.

Posted by MrFox > 2023-11-29 20:18 | Report Abuse

Buy early and hold!
certainly lah! ...such a beautiful lady!!!
haha

Posted by mikekim > 2023-11-29 21:50 | Report Abuse

Tenaga last 4Q PAT = MYR2.86bn; market cap 57 billion; P/E 20x
YTL power last 3Q PAT + next Q PAT = expected MYR3.0bn+; market cap 19 billion; P/E 6x

The undervaluation of YTL Power is just too jarring given the strong underlying performance and fundamentals. Given that both utilities companies will be component stocks of FBMKLCI now, it's official green light for many institutional investors to start looking at YTL Power, and utilities sector is the #1 net foreign inflow sector.

Which stock within the Malaysian utilities sector will be the most attractive? I think we all know.

Buy early now, go for a nice holiday, check your profits in the week of Xmas and New Year. Once you have that profit buffer, you can just switch off and no need to check everyday and be at peace, and wait for the next sterling quarterly results to be announced by end Feb 2024, which should be in the range of 800m - 1bn+.

Posted by ltlim74 > 2023-11-29 22:29 | Report Abuse

Another possible reason why most local research houses give lower valuations is to be conservative in their target price so they wouldn't be blamed if next few quarter results doesn't reach their expectations. Means play safe and be prudent, then upgrade again if next q results meet expectations. This way they won't run the risk of being too far off and put their reputation on the line.

Posted by bearcomebullgone > 2023-11-29 23:22 | Report Abuse

bos bila mau kasi naik 20% ha?? bg tahu dulu sy kasi beli tu ranhill dulu japs

Posted by mikekim > 2023-11-30 01:06 | Report Abuse

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/business/2023/08/21/hap-seng-ytl-power-jump-on-inclusion-into-ftses-asia-pacific-index/

YTL Power jumped 10+% on inclusion of FTSE Asia Pacific small cap index. Will be interesting to see how much it jumps on inclusion of FTSE FBMKLCI Index

Posted by Marklucas > 2023-11-30 02:50 | Report Abuse

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Posted by PureBULL ... > 2023-11-30 08:15 | Report Abuse

Giant MSCI will do rebalancing today Nov 30th.

Some of MSCI stocks on KLSE will rise in super huge vol.
Try ur luck, key in at high prices to sell.
ur stocks could be sold at high prices at 4.50 p.m. n u buy back lower in the next mkt day.

YTL n YTLPOWR, both r A1 stocks n will masuk KLCI as component stocks.
KLSE will likely announce tomorrow Dec 1st.
n inclusion effective on Mon, Dec 18th.

This is a super good news for both stocks.
Could it be sell on news?
Or to super bull again to HH?

Posted by xiaochen > 2023-11-30 08:39 | Report Abuse

戴乐西港出局 杨忠礼双雄成综指股
https://www.enanyang.my/%E8%B4%A2%E7%BB%8F%E6%96%B0%E9%97%BB/%E6%88%B4%E4%B9%90%E8%A5%BF%E6%B8%AF%E5%87%BA%E5%B1%80-%E6%9D%A8%E5%BF%A0%E7%A4%BC%E5%8F%8C%E9%9B%84%E6%88%90%E7%BB%BC%E6%8C%87%E8%82%A1

（吉隆坡29日讯）戴乐集团（DIALOG，7277，主板能源股）和西港控股（WPRTS，5246，主板交通与物流股）被富时隆综指除名，取而代之的是杨忠礼机构（YTL，4677，主板公用事业股）和杨忠礼电力（YTLPOWR，6742，主板公用事业股）！

Posted by harvest6138 > 2023-11-30 08:54 | Report Abuse

Since YTLP already included in the index , will this help to improve the PE expectation ?? lets see what is the market respond in next few weeks .. I hope all investors who is holding share now can get big new year pocket money soon..

Posted by Plantermen > 2023-11-30 10:22 | Report Abuse

Without prejudice. The widely follow FTSE KLCI Bursa Malaysia list of components stocks and new listings of additions will be announced in mid December. The list is widely track by index link funds and investment house.

Posted by mikekim > 2023-11-30 10:52 | Report Abuse

The biggest price increase happens between announcement date and inclusion date. Tomorrow it will be announced, so it will be a good opportunity to front run index funds before they are officially cleared to enter YTL Power tomorrow.

Tesla increased around 70% between announcement and inclusion date into S&P500. That is the power of index inclusion.

Posted by HumptyDumpty > 2023-11-30 11:03 | Report Abuse

There is really one group that trying to keep the price control down, ten minute from 10:50 keep on dumping on buy side.

Posted by MrFox > 2023-11-30 11:15 | Report Abuse

nothing to worry really as YTLP is not a HumptyDumpty
haha

Posted by MrFox > 2023-11-30 11:53 | Report Abuse

have a feeling it will be green noon session

Posted by HumptyDumpty > 2023-11-30 12:05 | Report Abuse

Nope it isn't but they are burning money in this. haha

Posted by mikekim > 2023-11-30 12:52 | Report Abuse

It's like a jinx, lol. Bought more at 2.26 earlier dip, further bought more at 2.33 this morning possibly thanks to contra force sale that completed in the morning. Buy and hold ;)

Posted by Apple888 > 2023-11-30 13:55 | Report Abuse

Fund very nice..lets more ppl buy ticket for show

Posted by Apple888 > 2023-11-30 14:00 | Report Abuse

Anyone maybank already credit dividend to account?

Posted by harvest6138 > 2023-11-30 14:08 | Report Abuse

I just checked , not yet ....

Posted by KingKKK > 2023-11-30 14:12 | Report Abuse

Is Wessex IPO possible? Water utilities company in UK trading at very high PE more than 30x... YTLP PE only <9x.

Posted by harvest6138 > 2023-11-30 14:23 | Report Abuse

@KingKKK, I hope some one will ask this question on 5th Dec AGM .. management must have some reasons if they don't plan to do so ..

Posted by dragon328 > 2023-11-30 14:41 | Report Abuse

@KingKKK, I asked the same question earlier but after further thoughts, it seems like the better time for a listing of Wessex Waters should be after 2025 when its RCV will expand beyond 4.0 billion pounds sterling and UK inflation to have cooled off by then. Pls see the earlier article below for more details.

https://klse.i3investor.com/web/blog/detail/dragon328/2023-08-24-story-h-241866920-YTL_YTL_Power_Electrifying_Up_to_Record_Profits

Posted by slts > 2023-11-30 15:02 | Report Abuse

Wow still not happy with ytlp performance

Posted by MrFox > 2023-11-30 15:03 | Report Abuse

certinly lah becos YTLP is not shit!!
haha

Posted by MrFox > 2023-11-30 16:50 | Report Abuse

Posted by MrFox > 4 hours ago | Report Abuse

have a feeling it will be green noon session

cun cun calling!

Posted by Yezzy99108 > 2023-11-30 16:51 | Report Abuse

what a good comeback

Posted by feiloh > 2023-11-30 16:57 | Report Abuse

Good

Posted by HumptyDumpty > 2023-11-30 17:00 | Report Abuse

"what's these pure amore doing with other pple's money?"
My guess is nowhere to run after exiting china market...