It would seem the history had fast forwarded to present time to divulge the ghosts. Seeing what troubles TBE and CLS are in now, the inevitable loss of 2 most important figures suddenly painted a very bleak future for Lii Hen going forward.
1) It issued only 5.8m (including 1.8m for bumiputera quota) shares to the public during IPO at RM1.60 based on enlarged 40m shares in 2010. The company was valued at RM64m during IPO. It only collected RM9.3m from the public from 2010 till now. In the same period, it gave 20m bonus shares and there has not been any cash call on its shareholders.
2) In the past 9.5 years since 31.12.2004, it made a total profit after tax of RM85m, out of which RM35m was distributed to its shareholders as dividends. Before 2008, the company was mainly just breaking even without much profit.
3) It now has net asset of RM139m, RM40m of which cash and bank balances as at 30.6.13. It has no problem with accounts receivable, it has rather high ROA and acceptable ROE. Most assets are in the form of land and buildings which can be liquidated separately into cash.
Liihen is currently valued at Rm83m. In 2004, there was an offer to buy controlling interest in Liihen at RM2.45 per share which values the company at RM147m.
I think before accusing the controlling shareholders of Liihen as thieves, the accusers should take note that Liihen has enriched its minority shareholders by Rm85m after-tax profit from 2008 till now by managing its biz rather well.
If the last 5 years can be repeated by Liihen (which include crisis years), then the current fair value of Liihen lies in the range of RM120m to RM180m which is RM2 to RM3 per share.
the evidences adduced are so compelling. And the stock price over the years also confirm that something must be very wrong somewhere. We must take cognisance that we as minority shareholders are the most vulnerable lot when disaster strike as we have no way of knowing what actually happened in the company in real time. The dividends are good thus far but that should not cloud the eventuality IF the worst does happen.
The way the articles are inclined is a tell tale sign that something bad will happen soon and i m not risking my fund for this 'risky' investment for now
Personally speaking, the arguments made in the blogspot are naive and porous to me and the evidence flimsy, both far from compelling. I do not have time or patience to point out each leaky accusation. It is not worth my effort.
Anyway, those who believe the accusations should not buy Liihen as you should buy based on what you believe in.
I am in agreement with sense maker. This is a well run company with superb financials and track record. I would view this as an opportunity and have being accumulating this stock. Liihen will shine in the mid term.
One strange observation: All those ID who put down this stock in this forum thread started their 1st post earliest end Aug and 1st post is in this forum thread, and most postings so far are putting down Liihen here. Hmm....
Guess we can assume that kkanagasg , janetooi001 , alwong1111 , wahidpenang , sulaiman1955 , ismailkarin , keithchan and ...harveylai is the same old person . REVEALED ..this person is so free to condemn on Liihen must have screw him up badly in 2004 .Keeep repeating about 2004 stories . HELLO... we are now nearing 2014 !! Bringing back old memories . Move forward look ahead
@candygirl, yes, story may be long ago, but the fact that you keep reading those articles to keep abreast with the news means you are in fear! So much so that your paranoia wanted the activists to stop publishing and posting further comments, I have nothing to say but a real pity to you.
One may discern their motive as follows: they hope the 2 directors will be caught and the share price will plunge, according to Janet, to 70sen, so that their backer(s) can mop up the shares cheap.
But does 70sen make commercial sense? Liihen has RM0.67 cash and bank balance per share. So, 70sen is almost impossible because at that level, anyone can buy the whole Liihen company at RM0.03 sen NET (=70sen-67sen) or RM1.8m (60m*0.03).
So, the 70sen does not make sense unless the cash and bank balance has gone missing. It is irresponsible of some of them to allege that the cash and bank balances are gone or at risk of embezzlement because the diretors are thieves.
If the directors were thieves, they need not have raised just Rm9.3m from IPO and then given out RM35m as dividend since then. Share market is full of rumours and speculation and the price moves because of them by nature. If you cannot take the wild swing in share price, stay clear of share market till you have learnt the necessary skills to safeguard your money and take responsibility for your investment decision.
Personally, if the 2 directors go to jail for their part in insider trading in 2004, as this group is alleging so unreasonably hard for, I would be happy to offer to buy the whole Liihen for RM1.00 a share (ie. effective price being RM0.33 net of cash and bank balance of Liihen. A net price of RM19.8m (0.33*60m) would be a steal to me to take over the whole 100% of Liihen. But that is next to impossible, as there would be other bidders offering much higher price than RM1.
The RM13m short-term borrowing of Liihen is all bankers acceptance which costs just less than 2% p.a. interest cost. So, I have no problem rolling them over which has been the case. The Rm9m term loan can be easily managed by FCF from operation.
If the group really wants to help minority shareholders meaningfully, they should focus more on the biz, i.e. the outlook of furniture industry and ways to expand export sales for Liihen. Did they also ask questions in AGM pertaining to how the management plans to sustain or grow sales and profitability of Liihen in the mid-term?
All minority shareholders of Liihen should welcome critics, so long as they are constructive, adding value and based on facts.
Miketyu, please check the status via KLSE announcement yourself next time. Investors should do their own homework. The company has applied to strike off the case which was brought upon by a small shareholder to have its AGM re-convened.
It is a steal really at present price of $ 1.37 with PE 3.91x and NTA $ 2.24, but why nobody is buying as depicted by the daily volume for the last 2 months? Go ask the carpenters if the books are really what it is. Just wait patiencely before the big bomb explodes any time soon
muahahahahaha tjhlg they have been repeating same old story since Aug 2013. Worst part they dig stories from 2004 a century old !!. Why only Liihen ?? Idris , Union paper , MGR , BIG
i do u a favour , i post this on behalf in case u forget to post it again candygirls 麻坡木匠们深知以现有的股价那 32%股权将会是无人问津的。他们有必要及诱因让利兴的股价上揚。而最佳的策略当然是重赏之下必有勇夫一着... www.liihen.com 24/10/2013 11:21
ya .. is ok to say so , we know what we doing and the risk in investing . just don keep on posting same thing again and again , damn sian . and if this counter is really that bad , u guy already do your job here and more than enough . tq
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Posted by candygirl > 2013-10-17 01:07 | Report Abuse
they have been repeating what was earlier said so damn many times . don't they feel silly ??
http://listverse.com/2012/11/25/top-10-reasons-youll-never-go-back-in-time/
harvey lai janettooi alwong1111 please check with Albert Einstein why you should never go back in time