how true is this too? sad as i thought at least there is a good chinese leader in PKR in the form of Chua Jui Meng and not the useless police chomping Tian Chua. Tony Pua should be groomed as next chinese leader!
image already tainted, another black ink on his face doesn't make any different at all. maybe that is the reason they get him to speak...i hope he don't contest this coming GE, else PR buta-buta risk losing a seat
still feel sorry for their wife & the kids....live pension can't give them back their father & husband.......it can be avoided had the group agreed to go back peacefully...
the group leader also so selfish, what chance do they have against Malaysia army ? this kind of leader, not worth to follow at all.
time will finally inform us who is the actual culprit. law of evidence! if in the event this cannot be fulfilled, someone will bear this crime in the next life/afterlife! i really believe that!
Maybe possible Frank Soweto. Now I wonder why the BN government treat these armed intruders with kids gloves. And shouldn't the army who are better equip and better trained to handle the job as any other country would. Why the Police who are better trained to maintain public order only? So many whys indeed and I wonder why?
mymassa is pro-bn. They can't even write in english. Tipu those whom understand bm and can't read english. Please look properly at their photos. badly modify.
I would like to know too if indeed they were Umno members as alleged! Were they? Reports from Manila said these people were ferried at great cost by some sinister backers. Possibly UMNO? Makes sense? Lets wait and see reports released by police then!
You are waiting for a accurate police report....? Sounds naive. They cannot even report the original fatalities of the police until the kampung residents and the crime watch CEO gave the initial number to dispute their report.
Why are police involve and not army? Why such courtesy given to intruders? Why diplomatic approach takes 3 weeks? If they entered Singapore in this fashion, it would have been shoot to kill when singapore police and army stomp in....leave alone trying to ascertain who shot first....whiich is of no consequence.
Our fed govt have compromise the safety of our police in trying to approach the diplomatic way. On top of that, it looks like terrorist even from the first day reported and yet the home minister reported that they are seeking peaceful resolution although these fractions are with gun....m16, m203, mortar boms....
Imagine this, even in the worse of case, they the sulu are the owner (just for argument sake) of the land which makes them the landlord, akin to our home landlord of our house. Does the landlord have the right to walk into our home after we pay the rent. And worst still coming in to our rented house with weapons to seek higher rent. At that point, the landlord have trespass and it already is right to self defense.
If a group or faction comes in with this intention to seize something and with weapon, they are already terrorist....did we just compromise with terrorist? If we did we can expect future of more such events....
kc loh n ppl like u n me too.. God bless u .. be sincere n open ..the wise old man says.. start searcing without prejudice to any side or belief .. truth ll be unveiled ..it is sometimes painful to accept something that is against our preconceived belief or ideas because we always want our prepared answers not other answers... God bless all
I believe as a responsible citizen, every vote must be accompanied by research and being informed. Whether I vote or who I vote is nobody's business. For people to start criticize, I think at the core is wrong! I am just putting links that is available to all.
Now this is from malaysiakini. This is pro opposition right? Even their reporter has right to question the below!
Sebaliknya perbedaan pendapat yang disalut dengan agenda politik kepartian masing-masing hanya menyerlahkan Pakatan sebagai satu permuafakatan yang rapuh dan bersifat sementara.
Seolah-olah ia hanya sebuah kerjasama politik untuk memenangi pilihanraya tetapi bukan sebuah wadah yang mempunyai hala tuju jelas bersabit isu-isu kepentingan bersama rakyat.
Apabila pilihan raya umum makin hampir, Anwar sudah tentu akan meningkatkan siri ceramah di kalangan bukan Islam dan Islam. Biarlah mesej yang dibawa oleh beliau khususnya bersabit hukum hudud adalah sama dan senada tanpa mengira latar belakang hadirin.
Hanya sifat ikhlas sebegitu akan menyumbang kepada kredibiliti Pakatan di mata pengundi.
Having right to choose is a prerogative but choosing overall right vs wrong is not something easy. You can share all the link and try to be neutral but end of the day you will still need to decide at the voting station.
And your vote will still be by large proportion skewed toward personal perception thru info available (not everybody has face book or MI or FMT...) and bigger part towards personal gain. Whether right or wrong, be aware that this will be the last opportunity for a change because after this if BN stays they will ensure all the earlier available freedom voiced here and other forums or Facebook will be law ed. By this a glimpse of this was shown in 114a also earlier suggested prosecution of posting where the owner of the Wifi will face charge and etc...this and more will be strictly adhere . Note we can't choose the PM we only choose the party and the PM will be from UMNO president and may not be Najib anymore
Yes...it will definitely be so. Dr M has already shared that this implod weakness if the BN Govt currently. Najib won't have a say here I can guarantee as Mahathri and other UMNO warlords have very influential followers who are affected if ther is a change.
While a lot of Chinese are worried about Hudud, a lot also showed their willingness to compromise because they are fed up with the corruption and racism. I personally had place hope in Najib, however the failure to stand by his slogan and preach of 1Malaysia and curb the corruption is certainly a dismay. Some argue that corruption is a disease and required time to cure but I say 5 years there is not sign and action to show. If the will is there, when Sharizat or Musa Aman or Taib was accused, the reaction by the PM should be to get to the bottom and not defend first. Look now and you will see no action done and the are embrace instead.
kcloh , do what you like with your vote, but please stop spamming all this useless junk , because it is so stupid.
so, i guess the riau gold refinery is harmless too? AES is a good accident prevention?
''"When you ramp it (the industry), make money and provide jobs, pay taxes, all this (opposition) will go away and they will see the real and good sense behind it."''
lynas does not pay taxes, it got 12 years tax exempted.
we know kcloh you are a crony of bn, but dont take us as fool, thank you.
Hahaha second baseless accusation that I am crony coming in now just because answered by some useless junk? I thought argument is supposed to be backed by facts or research? Never mind, will ignore little kids and continue to ask questions
Posted by Fat Cat Tim Buddy > Jan 24, 2013 12:42 AM | Report Abuse
kcloh, i have a feeling that your maybank shares now is in losing position?
you seem like always want BN to win (not going to happen lol..), you must be one of those cronies, if not , how can one retire so early? hahaha..
BN win or PR win, whatever is it, maybank will not get much affect by it, just my 0.02, i would not buy it at current price because i have other much better option ;)
even if i wanna buy stock in bank sector, public bank and ambank is my 1st and second choice, and follow by RHBcap , affin , BIMB , then only i will buy maybank hahaha...
Let me go on record to say, whoever is voted in, the govt of the day will thereafter get my full support because that is the will of the rakyat!
I may not agree with them (both) but it is only mature to work within the laws and legal system no matter how flawed it is. As of now, lets go by law of evidence despite its limitation!
Thankfully, I dunno how to argue with people who equate lynas with and I quote " so, i guess the riau gold refinery is harmless too? AES is a good accident prevention?"
to kc loh .. fat cat n all friends .. god bless u n all .. the old wise man says .. come all .. saints or sinners ... friends or enemies .. come n join this forum.. open to all .. sometimes painful n sometimes joyful .. this is not a competition .. this is a fun fair...be happy .. say what u want to say.. false or true ..release what u want to release ..then feel relax .. because u hev released... be grateful .. thank you
kcloh, obviously you do know how to argue, you are the best in arguing , no matter how retard your opponent is, you will just out-tard him/her.
we all can see it from last year November till jan 2013, you and davesingh argument is truly epic, a master piece in the history since internet invented, bravo, you the man, keep it up. :)
i don't like BN and neither do i like PKR that much who have yet to be proven good but i love Malaysia . ........... i fully support a change looking at the current situation in our country with super high crime rate , racism , corruption and our economy situation , a change is neccessary for the good of our beloved country for 2 govt system with check and balance
Hishamuddin says the gunmen in lahad datu is not militants or terrorists.......so what are they? Aliens from outerspace! Umno good friends from phillipines?....stupidity show again, isn't it?
need i answer the defending champion kid retard? hahaha beauty of it is he is so happy posting his pix everywher in the forum. must be in his heydays winning the sprint!
was reading this and found it to be of interest! any law expert here? of course, this is from a pro-BN forum
Persoalan Kenapa polis tak tentera?
1) jika kita guna tentera dahulu bermakna kita dalam perang dengan Sultan SULU.
2) Juga bermakna kita mengiktiraf Sultan Sulu secara lansung sebagai kerajaan yang sah yang mengistiharkan perang kepada kita.
3)Dan jika ini berlaku ianya akan tertakluk kepada Geneva Convention dan beberapa protocol antarabangsa.
Jika Polis sebagai pemerintah operasi bermakna
1) kita masih anggap mereka itu penjenayah dan penceroboh bukan combatant perang.
2) Polis kita akan menangkap dan menahan (perkatannya untuk polis ialah menahan bukan menawan - Menawan ialah perkataan Tentera ada beza di antara keduanya)
3) Untuk mengelakkan mereka menjadi Tawanan Perang. Cukup sekadar sebagai tahanan penjenayah. Maka tuduahn di Mahkamah Awam boleh di lakukan. Seperti tuduhan yang boleh kita buat di atas lanun Somalia yang kita tahan sedikit masa lalu. Mereka tidak di anggap tawanan perang.
4) Boleh di ektradisikan dengan lebih mudah ke Filipina. Kalau tindakan ketenteraan atau kita anggap perang susah nak bicara dan mana nak tempatkan mereka dan diklasifikasikan mereka ini? Maka jadilah macam kisah CIA dan Black Sitenya untuk WAR on TERROR mereka. Kita kena la buat macam Guantonamo BAy juga. Susah macam tu.
Itu sebab kita mengambil langkah Polis dahulu. Jika tentera ambil alih sudah jadi kes lain.
Jika keadaan tidak boleh di kawal lagi maka LOCAR AREA EMERGENCY (darurat setempat) boleh di isytiharkan
Dengar cerita darurat telah di istiharkan dan curfew di kuatkuasakan di sana. Ini bermakna tentera sudah ambil alih di Lahad Datu atau kawasan pencerobohan sahaja (kawasan yang lebih kecil)
Ianya seperti darurat waktu ribut banjir New Orleans dahulu- tentera USA ambil alih bukan lagi polis tempatan)
Dalam keadaan ini bermakna bukan satu negara Malaysia darurat dan bukanlah bermakna perang kerajaan Malaysia dan Sultan Sulu. Darurat hanya untuk keselamatan sahaja dan LOCAL AREA SAHAJA. Rasanya bukan seluruh Lahad Datu pun.Hanya kawsan pencerobohannya sahaja. Nampak hati-hatinya dan telitinya Kerajaan dalam hal ini..
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Posted by KC Loh > 2013-03-01 21:57 | Report Abuse
how true is this too? sad as i thought at least there is a good chinese leader in PKR in the form of Chua Jui Meng and not the useless police chomping Tian Chua. Tony Pua should be groomed as next chinese leader!
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