Posted by bingo > 2013-03-03 20:01 | Report Abuse

brother andychucky28 , that's how UMNO works lah.

Posted by tommylou > 2013-03-03 20:07 | Report Abuse

I do t want to sound poetic, but there are only this few possibilities
1) someone in the political realms feels that this can be considered collateral damage if these ppl are part of the political ploy....UMNO ? Pakatan ?

2) this may be the new May 13 as the racial divide and racial play is not working

3) This is a situation brought about by the Kiram because they feel their presence and their rebel which has infuse into our society in all other part are ready to activate

4) the Kiram were waiting for the best opportunity when Malaysia is weak due to our political immaturity to strike now.

Or 5) a combination of a few......

Which ever way you look at it, it still boils down to how the Internal Security reacts and resolve this .....and as of now, they are looking weaker and disorganized althought we have bigger artillery and soldiers.....or maybe not soldier but commandos......some VAT69 commandos whom they are justifying to be better trained UTK . I can assure you this is a terrorist and soldiers our commandos are fighting.....a guerilla tactician and seasoned jungle fighters. To make matters worst, the rebels in armed conflict do not engaged in exchanges following Geneva Convention protocols......now waving white flag and yet shooting with intent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions

So why are our Higher echelons talking Geneva Convention and reasons of not bringing in the military and Navy might?

Posted by andychucky28 > 2013-03-03 20:07 | Report Abuse

We are still waiting for the mamaktir to say something.

Posted by ispy2 > 2013-03-03 20:15 | Report Abuse

the Phillipine president said Sulu clan have take the wrong way to
go to Sabah. Whith bandit style and take the law in own hand, it is
easy to Malaysian authority to handle the situation by hook or by
crook. The Sulu clan now cannot receive two their wish easily because
they breach the rule and law, in Sabah and Mindanao. So it is not
goverment fault for this incident. DAP and PKR whistleblower are just
only the crook and have losing hope for winning election. Where is
the Pakatan DEMONstrator hide? Go to Sabah and fight the Sulu clan.
You will not go anyway because your are the real culprit. Isn' it?

Posted by Buy & Sell Sell & Buy > 2013-03-03 20:16 | Report Abuse

Kesultanan Sulu mendakwa berjaya menawan sekurang-kurangnya empat orang rakyat Malaysia susulan satu pertempuran di Sri Jaya Simunil, Semporna petang semalam.Laporan stesen radion dzBB Filipina menyebut, jurucakap kesultanan itu mendakwa demikian dalam satu sidang media di Taguig City, Manila.

Posted by tommylou > 2013-03-03 20:17 | Report Abuse

He has spoken ....

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=63441:even-dr-m-chides-najib-security-at-border-and-territorial-waters-must-be-tightened&Itemid=2

Posted by tommylou > 2013-03-03 20:22 | Report Abuse

And they asked Malaysia to allow them to bury their dead because we should understand as a Muslim nation. What we allowed them to do is to re group and attack again.......not the right and smart way is it? They came back with a vengeance now waving white flag and as a trap.....again not Convention protocol. oh pls common Hishamudin.....you are either stupid or not up to the level to hold such a position.....I thought the PM have give the mandate and all the tough talk and we still get slaughtered....

Posted by tommylou > 2013-03-03 20:28 | Report Abuse

Are you first day at work or ill informed?? terrorist do not play by the rules!

Posted by Buy & Sell Sell & Buy > 2013-03-03 20:29 | Report Abuse

SPR Sabah: Tak timbul soal tangguh p'raya.
Pengarah SPR Sabah Datuk Idrus Ismail berkata suruhanjaya itu akan membuat keputusan berhubung penangguhan pilihan raya “apabila tiba masanya” jika darurat terpaksa diisytiharkan di negeri itu.

Sabahan tak akan keluar Mengundi jika mereka akan jadi tawanan atau ditembak. Kemungkinan besar pilihanraya di Sabah perlu ditangguh sehingga keadaan jadi selamat. Mr. Idris Ismail nanti anda arahkan pegawai pilihanraya laksanakan pilihaaraya walaupun Rakyat Sabah belum bersedia keluar mengundi.

Posted by tommylou > 2013-03-03 20:30 | Report Abuse

Usury, I am reposting this link......read this and amt of time the terrorist gave the SAF to react....and they killed them all

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Airlines_Flight_117

Posted by ispy2 > 2013-03-03 20:36 | Report Abuse

the situation is cannot handle without proper SOP. It is sniper attack
in remote village of Semporna and the police try to avoid any chaos. So
dont blame government beside the incident is occur accidentally. Can
accept or not?

Posted by usry > 2013-03-03 20:39 | Report Abuse

If you study Sun Tzu the art of war- one of his philosophy are below:
''All warfare is base on deception.Therefore,when able to attack,we must pretend to be unable:when employig our forces,we must seem inactive..bla..bla..
Offer a bait to alure the enemy.when he covert small advantage:strike the enemy when he in disorder...bla..bla..

For me- what Sulu people waves white flag is one of their strategem.. They use all their strength (including stategem,deception and other hoaxes) to make them alive.. so in war we should do what ever strategem to trick enemy. this is support buy Sun Tzu philosophy " ...the general must create situaion which will contribute to accomlishment plan.. So we cannot blame them as not follow SOP or play dirty.Same as what our brother Tommylou said;terrorist do no play the rules!!

Posted by iafx > 2013-03-03 20:44 | Report Abuse

tommy, while they bury their death, the same time killed five brave msian, attempted to hijack 80 villagers as human shield, and possibly 4 policemen were kidnapped (pending confirmation).

if action still be carried out alone by police only, not sure juz how to end this? it is really time to joint force now! ini susaputin punya leadership ... aiyoyo..

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-03-03 20:56 | Report Abuse

i am reading the Black Ops: Operasi Sabah Selamanya! found it to be like a story plot of the highest James Bond caliber! I dunno about this incident no doubt, but ..... ah well, just read the following:

57.Para komando Malaysia itu terperangkap.

58.Tujuh lelaki Melayu yang gagah berani terpaksa lawan puluhan mungkin ratusan komando dan para pengawal Istana Presiden.

59.Peluru berganti…tembakan bertalu-talu dilepaskan…jerit pekik dan kekalutan berlaku,
trafik dari saluran keselamatan tentera Filiphina tiba-tiba menjadi kelam-kabut dan penuh aktiviti.

60.Pihak perisikan ATM yang memantau saluran radio tentera Filiphina mula berasa tidak kena, jantung mereka berdengup kencang kerana nasib negara bergantung kepada tujuh lelaki Melayu tadi.

61.Segala-galanya menjadi sengal, tiba-tiba keadaan yang pada mulanya berpihak kepada negara kita kini hampir berpusing 360 darjah apabila para komando Malaysia yang gagah berani ini terkepung.

62.Masa hadapan negara kita benar-benar “TERGANTUNG” dalam keadaan yang sangat bahaya dan kritikal jika para komando ini tertangkap.

63.Bekalan peluru yang sangat sedikit tidak memungkinkan para komando Melayu ini membuat perhitungan yang lebih jauh.

64.Dengan segenap tenaga yang ada dan dengan izin Allah juga, para komando kita berjaya menyelamat diri dan seterusnya membawa pulang dokumen yang sangat-sangat penting untuk kestabilan Malaysia.

65.Sebelas orang yang terdiri dari pengawal Istana Presiden dan komando Filiphina terkorban dalam insiden yang berlaku sekitar tahun 1980an itu.

fighting maybe hundreds of commandos in Malacanang, the radio controllers "jantung berdegup", and the seven commandos escaped the scores of Filipino commandos unscathed and in a foreign land? fuhhh...! Suddenly my mind went to a scene of Charlie Sheen's rambo! am serious! :)

http://awesomenator.com/movies/top-10-highest-body-count-action-movie-characters/

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-03-03 20:57 | Report Abuse

the black ops link

http://militaryofmalaysia.net/2013/01/black-ops-operasi-sabah-selamanya/

Posted by iafx > 2013-03-03 21:13 | Report Abuse

initially, it was tot that sulu "armed men", sort of like pirate... by now, it should be very clear that these r no ordinary ppl, they r rebel who fought phlippine+U.S special arm forces

yet, our strategy seems still trying to ARREST them ... omg

Posted by Buy & Sell Sell & Buy > 2013-03-03 21:19 | Report Abuse

the Black Ops: Operasi Sabah Selamanya, is it reality or fiction? Just asking.

Posted by Buy & Sell Sell & Buy > 2013-03-03 21:23 | Report Abuse

Cannot arrest them. they r willing to die. Our armed forces must shoot to kill, no negotiation from now onwards.

Posted by ispy2 > 2013-03-03 21:50 | Report Abuse

dont make any more heavy spat here. Tommorrow buy military or defense
related counter on KLSE.Surely it price will blown up on heavy volume.
But dont sell consumer or banking stock. and dont forget war currency
is not less important. Cautious on gold related counter. Some hot
currency are now hide in metals and not shelter in bank. Can you guess
was is it?

Posted by iafx > 2013-03-03 21:57 | Report Abuse

if b.ops true, then the strategy to handle the crisis since day 1 is such a big mistake. police should be employ to maintain law & order on the streets, armed forces to drive invaders out - leverage on the best of both teams!

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-03-03 22:02 | Report Abuse

iafx, from Mahathir to you! :)

Kerajaan Perlu Ambil Tindakan Keras Terhadap Kumpulan Penceroboh - Tun Mahathir
BAGAN SERAI: Bekas Perdana Menteri Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad berpendapat sudah tiba masanya kerajaan mengambil tindakan keras terhadap pihak penceroboh selepas insiden pertumpahan darah di Lahad Datu dan Semporna, Sabah.

Beliau berkata walaupun kerajaan berhati-hati dalam menangani isu itu pada peringkat awal dan berharap ia dapat diselesaikan tanpa pertumpahan darah, malangnya ia tidak dihargai oleh mereka sehingga sanggup membunuh anggota pasukan keselamatan negara.

"Sekarang ini saya fikir tidak ada jalan lain melainkan kerajaan melancarkan serangan balas supaya dapat dihapuskan sama sekali pasukan Sulu ini walaupun dengan (tindakan) ini ramai mereka terbunuh, tapi ini tidak dapat dielakkan kerana mereka yang menyerang Sabah, bukan kita yang menyerang mereka," katanya kepada pemberita selepas memberi ucapan pada Himpunan Rakyat Perak anjuran Pertubuhan Pribumi Perkasa Malaysia (Perkasa) di sini, Ahad.

Katanya tindakan keras yang diambil mungkin akan menyebabkan ramai daripada penceroboh itu mati serta anggota keselamatan negara akan menjadi mangsa.

Pada pendapatnya, insiden yang berlaku itu tidak akan tamat begitu sahaja kerana pihak penceroboh boleh melakukan serangan-serangan hendap pada masa depan.

Kerajaan diharap mengadakan persediaan awal menghadapi serangan berturut-turut pada masa akan datang, terutama keperluan terhadap pasukan Tentera Laut Diraja Malaysia (TLDM) untuk mengawal dan menyekat bot-bot yang datang dari kepulauan Tawi-Tawi yang mungkin membawa pasukan penceroboh atau menyeludup senjata, katanya.

"Perkara ini tidak boleh dipandang ringan walaupun pada mulanya kita ingat percubaan mereka itu untuk menawan Sabah sebagai percubaan yang sia-sia tetapi kita tahu mereka akan menjadi gerila dan akan melancarkan serangan pada masa depan," katanya.

Mengenai ada pihak yang mempertikai tindakan kerajaan yang memberi kuasa kepada pasukan Polis Diraja Malaysia (PDRM) untuk bertindak terlebih dahulu berbanding pasukan Angkatan Tentera Malaysia (ATM) berhubung pencerobohan tersebut, Dr Mahathir berkata negara mempunyai dua bahagian keselamatan.

"Kita bahagi keselamatan kepada dua bahagian iaitu yang datang dari luar yang biasanya tindakan diambil oleh tentera manakala yang berada di dalam negara adalah tanggungjawab polis. Pada mulanya kita tidak anggap pencerobohan itu sebagai serangan luar kerana mereka ini berada dalam wilayah kita," katanya.

Bagaimanapun, apabila pencerobohan dan serangan kini jelas datang dari luar maka difahamkan pihak tentera diarahkan untuk memgambil bahagian dalam tanggungjawab itu, katanya.

Mengenai dakwaan sesetengah pihak bahawa kerajaan dilihat 'berlembut' dengan pihak penceroboh terbabit, beliau berkata sememangnya kerajaan tidak mahu mengambil tindakan sehingga membunuh kerana mereka juga mempunyai keluarga dan rakan sebagai warganegara di Sabah.

"Sebab itu kita berhati-hati bertindak begitu pada awalnya, lagipun mereka ini orang Islam, kita orang Islam, kita tidak mahu tergesa-gesa, tetapi mereka tunjukkan niat jahat dengan menembak dua anggota polis kita. Sekarang ini peristiwa ini tidak boleh dianggap boleh diselesaikan dengan rundingan," katanya.

Mengenai laporan media asing bahawa kedatangan penceroboh terbabit ke Lahad Datu adalah atas "jemputan" seorang ahli politik pembangkang, Dr Mahathir berkata ahli politik itu menjanjikan banyak perkara bagi Sabah termasuk memberikan kuasa autonomi jika pembangkang menang pilihan raya. -BERNAMA

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-03-03 22:10 | Report Abuse

good reading about economic reality!

http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general/pakatan-s-promises-unfeasible-1.227696?cache=03D163D03edding-pred-1.1176%2F%3FpFpentwage63Dp%3A%2Fhe3D03Dn63Frea-rti3D19.3D163D03edding-pred-1.1176%2F%3FpFpentwage63Dp%3A%2Fhe3D03Dn63Frea-rti3D19.111w5ii%2Fed-1.1176%2F%2F2.2525%2F2.2525%2F1.33120%2F7.183911%3Fpage%3D0

Posted by tommylou > 2013-03-03 22:13 | Report Abuse

Iafx, the military are in as I see.....jungle warfare is not for commandos of concrete jungle...

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-03-03 22:14 | Report Abuse

all said and done, remember to vote!

if dunno what to do, please read! :)

http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general/ready-to-vote-for-the-first-time-1.227688?cache=03D163D03edding-pred-1.1176%2F%3FpFpentwage63Dp%3A%2Fhe3D03Dn63Frea-rti3D19.3D163D03edding-pred-1.1176%2F%3FpFpentwage63Dp%3A%2Fhe3D03Dn63Frea-rti3D19.111w5ii%2Fed-1.1176%2F%2F2.2525%2F2.2525%2F1.33120%2F7.183911%3Fpage%3D0

Posted by iafx > 2013-03-03 22:21 | Report Abuse

v cannot effort to have sulu troop further spread in the area, to fight 200 men is far easy than fighting small groups of 3 running around with m16 & rpg, obviously, sulus try to monger fear & distract police force. action needs to split among police & armed forces now, strong msg must b sent to sulu - this is not about religious, politic or land anymore! this is protecting our home ... otherwise other groups tot msia an atm machine ... buta lah!

Posted by iafx > 2013-03-03 22:24 | Report Abuse

tommy, in is not enough, they need to be given a mission. notice till now is polis one man show, they r not train to fight rebel tactic, 1 sniper alone can put them at bay

Posted by passerby > 2013-03-03 22:40 | Report Abuse

I think they were given the mission already, it should sounds - " I want all of them capture alive".

else what is stopping them to put the bullets in the invader heads ?

dead people don't speak....the invaders are ready to die since the day one together with their "informations"....

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-03-03 22:46 | Report Abuse

makes sense passerby! :)

iafx, i think the sulus have the same idea about "this is not about religious, politic or land anymore! this is protecting our home"! what do you think?

Posted by passerby > 2013-03-03 22:50 | Report Abuse

are these invaders are still hiding in the same village?

just drug their water supply...

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-03-03 22:54 | Report Abuse

you could be drugging Malaysians, and there will be political consequences!

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-03-03 22:57 | Report Abuse

people said malaysia lost to the tune of 100bn through corruption in Mahathir's administration! what about this?

http://www.thechoice.my/top-stories/40347-are-these-the-secret-details-of-anwar-ibrahims-wealth

i didnt follow much on Murad's statutory declaration, saying that this is how opponents of dictator is played out then! but are there any truth to this?

why is this being raise again and again if the SD was said to be bogus or sandiwara perhaps?

Posted by iafx > 2013-03-03 23:00 | Report Abuse

if they decided not to talk but act, so can v, right? afterall, leniency been exercised already, if still not take action, it will only provoke even further attempt, even more difficult to talk then.

land? ask the white to return land to red lah ... c what the white will respond (give more sugar?), 1915 agreement ... what a joke!

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-03-03 23:01 | Report Abuse

http://www.malaysian-explorer.com/malaysiaNews-mahathirDaresBarryWain.html

barry wain already passed on, right?

Posted by iafx > 2013-03-03 23:05 | Report Abuse

what's really piss is this sulu sultan having done such thing, he can still talk freely in manila! what this mean? how about ours ... say something to boost polis moral lah!

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-03-03 23:07 | Report Abuse

i think the authorities finally agreed to act.

What is the white and red in 1915 agreement?

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-03-03 23:09 | Report Abuse

yeah, they announced capture of civilians from their taguig homeland. I think enough is enough too! They may be a heavy price to pay, but i think everyone wants this insurgency to end! better if captured the prince brother or something like that! need to see who is involved!

Posted by iafx > 2013-03-03 23:15 | Report Abuse

they have better act asap & act swift b4 other group join in tot of getting a share, greatly complicated the situation then, sigh

Posted by andychucky28 > 2013-03-03 23:48 | Report Abuse

No way out for intruders, says Tun Dr Mahathir

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/no-way-out-for-intruders-says-tun-dr-mahathir/

Posted by yen boy > 2013-03-04 00:33 | Report Abuse

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/opinion/2012/08/08/pakatans-to-do-list-if-it-wins-ge/

Posted by bingo > 2013-03-04 01:15 | Report Abuse

PR may recapture Perak: Analysts


(The Sun Daily) - Political analysts believe that apart from retaining Selangor, Kelantan, Penang and Kedah, Pakatan Rakyat (PR) has a good chance of recapturing Perak in the next general election (GE), Sin Chew Daily reported today.

The report said of the states it captured in the last GE, PR is expected to sail through in Penang but will have a tough fight in Selangor.

Political analysts said although PR regards Johor, Sabah and Sarawak as its frontline states, Barisan Nasional (BN) still has the upper hand in their so-called "fixed deposit" states.

However, they believe PR will still win a few more parliamentary seats in each of these states.

Political scientist Dr Ho Khai Leong said given the gap in the number of seats held by PR and BN in the PR-led states, BN needs to do extremely well to recapture them.

"Selangor is more urbanised than other states. The issues of crime, transport and spiralling property prices are plaguing the people who feel they have not benefited much from the present government."

Ho also predicts a fierce fight between the two coalitions in Perak.

Given that the Chinese are unhappy with the way BN wrested power from PR in Perak after the last GE, it would not be surprising for PR to take over the state again in GE13, he said.

Political analyst Dr Thock Kiah Wah shared Ho's view, saying the Chinese may cast protest votes to "punish" the BN.

On talk that the number of Kedah government policies that irked the Chinese in the last five years may cause PR the state, Ho said the small percentage of Chinese voters would not make much difference.

However, Thock cautioned that the influence of former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad in the state cannot be underestimated.

- See more at: http://www.thesundaily.my/news/626953#sthash.RWqjW8rQ.dpuf

http://www.malaysia-today.net/mtcolumns/newscommentaries/54842-pr-may-recapture-perak-analysts

Posted by tommylou > 2013-03-04 01:52 | Report Abuse

A very sad day for Malaysians of all races to hear this from Mahathir our former PM for 22 years.......caption from Mahathir statement

"Mahathir said the only reason the government had “acted cautiously” in the beginning was because the intruders were Muslims.
“We did not want to be hasty. We did not want to kill them because they also have families and friends in Sabah. (And) afterall they are Muslims and we are Muslims. That’s why we acted cautiously at first.
“But they have now acted in bad faith. They have gunned down our policemen.
“Now, the stalemate can no longer be resolved through negotiation,” he said.

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2013/03/03/dr-m-don’t-underestimate-guerillas/

Posted by tommylou > 2013-03-04 01:53 | Report Abuse

I wander who is running the show here?

Posted by reyes430 > 2013-03-04 02:28 | Report Abuse

while in cyber world, the clash started so vigorously
http://nasilemaktech.com/2013/03/04/pointless-cyberwar-between-philippines-and-malaysia/

Posted by Frank Soweto > 2013-03-04 07:07 | Report Abuse

perhaps our politicians should heed the advice of the writer below?
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/time-to-unite-to-fight-a-common-enemy-not-bicker/

Posted by tommylou > 2013-03-04 08:06 | Report Abuse

Now we will see truly the loyalty of those Filipino who got their blue ic fr Malaysia.

Posted by Hustle > 2013-03-04 08:23 | Report Abuse

Posted by iafx > Mar 3, 2013 10:24 PM | Report Abuse

tommy, in is not enough, they need to be given a mission. notice till now is polis one man show, they r not train to fight rebel tactic, 1 sniper alone can put them at bay



Haha iafx what you watch at the movie is pretty hard to apply at here :)
But anyway,if our country not prove that we also have strong military power,later we will encounter land claiming from others neighbor country too.
To eliminate the Sulu intruder actually don't have any political issue,just may be will lose a few vote from Sabah from the people that link to the terrorists family members.

Posted by tommylou > 2013-03-04 08:24 | Report Abuse

PM claims to have photograph and circumstantial evidence?...waiting for solid evidence?

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/222789

Posted by tommylou > 2013-03-04 08:26 | Report Abuse

No way now PM will call election.....

Posted by Hustle > 2013-03-04 08:32 | Report Abuse

Do we need a solid evidence for intruder?
If our M'sian villages is already evacuate from the terrorists kampung,then we can launch air strike to massacre the whole terrorists troop already.When we watch movie on TV just a few month back that regarding the hero of our country how they eliminate Communism,for this type of intruder I'm believe is just a piece of cake.

Posted by andychucky28 > 2013-03-04 08:32 | Report Abuse

Death toll touched 26. Actually the approach by the Suluks are wrong. They should bring the whole thing to the international court. Let the people decide. Now is become like war already.