Price Fixing Date will probably held in March 2021
Stay tuned. Stay positive.
Remember to Keep BUYING and BUYING. Remember to HOLD Tightly your ticket.
Now it is time for Mega Sales. At the price of RM0.39, BIMB WA is still very very CHEAP, need to use big bag to collect more and more. Let's compete with the Syndicates.....Remember Supply and Demand Theory in Microeconomics........ Buy more and leave limited supply in the market when the demand id extremely high. This is one of the strategies adopted by my team
Hi everyone, I am Jeremy, a Malaysian who works in Hong Kong as an Investment Banker.
I strongly agree with what auditorandconsultant said overhere for the past few days till present.
I do not foresee any risk associated with BIMB Internal Reorganisation and I think it is a good type of Arbitrage whereby the risk is almost zero. It is very normal in Hong Kong here.
I have been working in one of the investment banks Hong Kong here for near to 20 years and this kind of arbitrage is not something new to me. Please grab this opportunity to earn more by helping one another to push the price of BMB WA higher with higher volume to get higher VWAP.
Indeed, I have the pleasure of working in Internal Reorganisation involving PCCW-HKT Telephone Limited in year 2008. Enclosed a summary of the event in mandarin but you may refer to Google for detail info.
From the above corporate practice, the Group enjoys the highest efficiency and I do not foresee why BIMB Holdings' Internal Reorganisation will be failed, especially it is a way to unlock the value of Takaful.
I believe you people should trust the Value derived from this Internal Reorganisation and should help each other to push the BIMB WA price higher.
Just my two cents as a Malaysian who works in IB who still loves Malaysia and its economy.
As such, I strongly agree with what auditorandconsultant is promoting over here because this is really a good opportunity to earn from Arbitrage. Please show your support to auditorandconsultant if you love Malaysia.
Buy and hold....why incur brokerage fee,stamp duty and clearing fee when execute selling/contra? The broking house( Authorized DepositoryAgent) is making money when you contra. I remembered TA securities chartered a plane to Australia for the Company trip as a result of lucrative fee earned during 1993 bull run, And their staff received 18 month bonus. Why not keep the money for yourself? My 2 sen
Remember, sky is the limit and the time is the factor. If i were the investor in BIMB WA, I will keep buying and queuing at price lower a bit than previous trading day to form a block for the Syndicates. I believe as Syndicates, they are much worried than you because of the following reasons:-
1) Their cost of investments is too high and to earn higher profit to meet their KPI, they need to push the price of BIMB WA upwards; AND
2) The supply of BIMB WA in the market is getting limited and if Syndicates drag their progresses by not pushing the price upwards in due time, they are going to lose in term of time cost and opportunity cost because the price fixing date will be somewhere in early of March, and when the supply is seriously insufficient to cater for the increasing demand for the BIMB WA, Syndicates are going to even pay higher price or incur higher cost of investment for BIMB WA if they are compelled to buy and to continue with this game. In short, this is a Game Theory. If the Syndicates failed to create panic selling among all BIMB WA retail investors, they have no choice but to keep pushing and competing in getting the limited WA.
How if the Syndicates give up and stop investing? My experience dealing with Fund Managers/Syndicates from Singapore, Cayman Islands and British Virgin Islands tells me that the probability of Syndicates giving up is almost ZERO because:-
a) the Syndicates had already invested significant amount of capital in this investment; b) the Syndicates had already agreed with their clients on this portfolio via Investment Memorandum and could not breach contract as they like; c) the Syndicates' reputation will be tarnished if they give up halfway which will result in loss of customers in the future; d) there is no reason on why the Syndicates want to stop investment when there is no upper limit for the redemption value and when this corporate exercise is strongly supported by BIMB; AND e) even if the Syndicates short sell their WA, they will incur huge as there are many other players/Syndicates outside who will take advantage by buying more.
FYI, the MalaysianIB_HongKong, LipakSungguh, fzy1388 and I have been blocked before.
I heard MalaysianIB_HongKong
I hope that the admin here be fair and be more transparent.
I understand that the power or ultimate controller of this i3 is situated in Hong Kong.
Please be fair and transparent. Orelse, everyone will be lodging complaint and i think the reliability and confidence of Investors will be lost when this platform is not fair anymore
The Syndicates/Sharks have come out with their tactics already.
Now, they use the media/press (e NanYang Press) to inform retail investors not to be be fallen into a victim of BIMB WA. They quoted GameStop and Top Glove as examples.
I think the writer does not know what is Arbitrage at all. They used Apple (GameStop and Top Glove) to compare with Orange (BIMB WA).
In this case, I should use Diamond for BIMB WA. It is so funny that they even use the press to manipulate market which indirectly mislead retail investors. I hope everyone stay calm and continue to BUY and HOLD.
The intention behind is that Syndicates/Sharks need to collect more WA before pushing them to higher price.
Why Sharks resort to e nanyang paper and dirty tactics to get hold of more bimb-wa? Cannot win with fair game? Remembers Nanyang ( Ming Poa ) was once suspended its publication as result of prophet Muhammad caricature. Not afraid if we lodged to KPKDN to withdraw their licence permanently if what their publish is slander to Bimb reorganisation exercise. Also, their slander are hitting the most critical issue with BNM and MoFinance intention to avoid takeover on Bimb and Takaful. This is probably the last nail to enanyang coffin.
Sharks and Syndicates are selfish. Finally I could post something. Really thank to auditorandconsultant for exerting pressure to the admin of this i3 forum
okdoke, you may ask everyone to lodge complaint to KPKDN. This is a good idea
chartwise bimb-wa more like a distribution mode. better don't touch . better safe than sorry. There is always other counter that are much more safer to buy.
I refer to earlier message. kindly take note as follow: Correct: KPDNKK Not correct: KPKDN KPDNKK acronym refer to : Kementrian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri, Koperasi dan Kepenggunaan Menara MRCB , Tingkap 17, Jalan Majlis , Seksyen 14, 40622 Shah Alam.
If any I3 forumer wish to lodge Report, they can lodge Report to this Ministry since their office is at Setia Setia, Petaling Jaya. My advise to all staff Nanyang . Please bring home your personal belonging because if Ministry act on the report, the premis would be lock down ( and your tooth brush and sanitary pads cannot be retrieved.) My two sen opinion
Those who trust the press media contents which are bias towards the syndicate are totally brainless
No one even the sharks or syndicates want to get lower VWAP when they could aim higher
The sharks and syndicates have no other methods already but to abuse or misuse media to continue create panic among retail investors or mislead investors
Everyone please continue to queue and buy and hold, Syndicate has no time already because the price fixing date is coming soon after Feb
Sometimes I really don’t understand the logic of the below statement. If people want to sell, buy it la. Why people want to sell bothering others to go out of this business? So little faith only ya?
paperplane SEEMS LIKE ROADBLOCK PUT AT 0.40 TO CHASE PPL OUT YA 15/02/2021 1:22 PM
Huat ar... let everyone superb huat... master sifu said 0.600-0.700... hoot9e ar.... later only cry father cry mother arzzz huat ar... ler master sifu bring you all huat ar... he got more than 10% stock on hand now... he is share holder... huat ar
Why one ppl holding two account ? Hahaha suddenly said is auditor and suddenly said is Malaysia IB hongkong investors? Hahahah... Laugh die me lar... don’t make me cannot sleep well ler...hahah
Huat ar... 0.600 0.700 coming soon... hold tight tight...my master sifu auditor and MalaysianIB... Huat Zai ar... later remember no to cry father and cry mother ar... laugh die me..
Don’t know ler... master sifu pls guide me how to go Holland ler... but I no dare to get free ticket to Holland lerzzz ... teach me what is VWAP and what is arbitrage ler... sifu pls lar... teach me lar... my secondary school teacher tak ajar me ler... how???
No choice ler... I just 3year old only... sure childish and funny lar.. Holland master sifu.. so how about now? Price still at 0.385 ler... cannot up ler... jialak lor... a lot I3investor so excited to see 0.600-0.700 soon ler... when only can reach 0.6-0.700 level oh? Pls lar.. you got 10% stock ler... pls help to push up and let us big huat lar
The selling pressure is a fake signal and illusion
If the syndicates wanna sell they will sell the WA last week already
The Syndicates form a block of more than 10 million selling army at RM0.40 to create panic and tension among retail investors who are not firm in their decision
I hope everyone will keep on buying and holding. Let's us give pressure to the Syndicates
Where is the >10 million army at selling price RM0.40
All are fake and because all of us are smart enough and do not want to be fallen into the victim of panic selling, so now Syndicates and Sharks have to give up already
Pretty Life confirmed is from Syndicates or Sharks already .....
Aiyo... drop back woh... then how? Even cancel also cannot up lor... hahah... this master sifu no have enough money to push up liao ar? Keep ask ppl lose money to help you push up ar? Master sifu... you make my day and cheer me up... wahaha... love die you.. cause everyday bring ppl to Holland hahah
In this game, no one will be losing except BIMB Holdings because BIMB Holdings will be paying us based on the VWAP 5 days preceeding the Price Fixing Day
This is Arbitrage, WIN WIN situation, so no need to worry. We will continue to ensure that we spread positive news and information to avoid retail investors from panic selling. Because no need to sell, end of the day BIMB Holdings will buy from us.
Pretty Life is brainless, talk non sense non stop
Tomorrow we continue to queue and form a block to the Syndicates or Sharks... This game requires PATIENCE. For sure we are better than the SHARKS because the Sharks cost is too high already
Everyone can just ignore Pretty_Life already. It seems like he or she likes to talk non sense.
How to relate the mother share and premium when we are not talking about the conversion of warrant to mother shares under normal circumstances.
We are talking about Arbitrage and even if the mother shares go down to below RM4.00. It does not matter because the issuer, BIMB Holdings will still redeem it because BIMB wants to ensure the successful completion of Internal Reorganisation to split Takaful to be a separate stand alone entity.
I think this Pretty Life is talking non sense and his or her syndication is of the lowest standards I have ever seen.
Remember and reminder to all, Arbitrage is different from the usual or normal conversion of Warrant to Ordinary Shares.
Pretty Life and some other people above are MISLEADING you people. Because this is an ARBITRAGE.
Again, congratulations to my team again for their efforts and thank to the Syndicates for selling their WA to my team members. Our stakes have been increasing again to 9.91% as of 15 Feb 2021.
As at 09/02/2021 - 8.45% As at 10/02/2021 - 9.04% As at 11/02/2021 - 9.50% As at 15/02/2021 - 9.91%
The above result shows that we are serious in taking opportunity to earn more from this corporate exercise. Reminder again, Arbitrage is different from normal conversion of WA to Ordinary Shares because this involves mandatory redemption by BIMB Holdings to ensure completion of its Internal Reorganisation.
BIMB-WA-VWAP (Volume Weighted Average Price) for the last 5 trading days
As at 08/02/2021 - RM0.3702 As at 09/02/2021 - RM0.3806 As at 10/02/2021 - RM0.3958 As at 11/02/2021 - RM0.3890 As at 15/02/2021 - RM0.3901
Average of the 5-Day VWAPs = RM0.3851
Due to the above higher VWAP, there is no one including Syndicates or Sharks willing to press down the VWAP because the highest the VWAP, the higher the Redemption Consideration to be paid by BIMB Holdings.
Illustration/Example:-
Take example, even though today (15/2/2021) closing price is RM0.385 and assuming just now evening BIMB made announcement that tomorrow is the Price Setting Date, the holders of WA will still be rewarded with the price of RM0.3851 even though the share price at the closing was RM0.3850 only. Furthermore, Mandatory Redemption via the Corporate Exercise means there will be NO BROKERAGE FEES, NO TAXES incurred by the WA Holders because this is an Arbitrage and the Issuer (BIMB Holdings) will handle everything and WA Holders only need to wait for MONEY to be deposited into your accounts.
Please be informed that the above is an example as the Price Fixing Day will not be in February 2021 after I reconfirmed again this afternoon (total calls made to BIMB = 5 times this months)
上面我已经很清楚的说明了,强行收购,内部重组,和套利这几个字眼。Conversion of WA to Ordinary Shares is NOT RELEVANT and OUT OF SCOPE, so stop talking about Mother Shares and Premium.
如果你还是冥顽不灵, 我只能当成你不是人了。
The above comments given by me include VWAP for the last 5 days, my Group Stake as a commitment to the Arbitrage (Money Back Guarantee Investment) and Example to show that Conversion of WA to Ordinary Shares is NOT RELEVANT.
A sincere thank to those who have defended the stand of this Arbitrage on behalf of certain top 30 warrantholders.
Hope to see that everyone is holding tight to ensure Syndicates do not abuse or take advantage over lower price WA when everyone should be entitled to the big cake as described by okdoke.
Also, hope that everyone could really stay calm, keep buying and holding, then wait for the price fixing day to come. Nothing lose, because there is no upper limit. And not to forget to remind everyone, do not misunderstand premium and conversion issues on the Warrant as this is an Arbitrage due to the Internal Reorganisation.
Lastly, I wish everyone who participates in this BIMB WA to be healthy and wealthy. Gong Xi Fa Chai.
remember the concept of warrant, we are buying it on gearing basis for growth of BIMB holdings.
From HL report:
Management sounded quite optimistic during our recent chat. Generally, BIMB shared that: (i) FY20 NCC is within its earlier 40-50bp guidance, (ii) NIM recovery is underway, (iii) financing growth is tapering but still above industry average, (iv) FVOCI reserve will not be aggressively monetized, and (v) completion time line for its corporate exercise is Jul-Aug 2021. Overall, we make no changes to our forecasts. We like BIMB for its positive long-term structural growth drivers and better asset quality among smaller-sized banks. Retain BUY and GGM-TP of RM4.80, based on 1.25x FY21 P/B.
RM4.80 is based on 1.25x FY21 P/B. its not even counting growth in 2022, 2023 which this BIMB-WA is supposed to be entitled for.
If 20% premium too much, how abt 15% or even 10% then???
WA holders should actually demand more, as that is what we supposed to be entitled by forgiving the DIVIDEND in past few years!
if my argument make sense, please do share as i personally think WA holders should get more with them taking higher risk and also forgiving dividend on BIMB
My side calculated based on Optimistic and Pessimistic Scenario, arrive at RM1.08 as the Intrinsic Value for the WA without taking into consideration the Premium
As such, the current value of BIMB WA of RM0.385 is very much and too undervalued. I do not think the Warrantholders will approve for such redemption consideration. Not to forget there are Foreign Warrantholders who bought this WA at higher value.
In conclusion, WA holders should be demanding more.
This is another reason why Sharks/Syndicates keep on disturbing and distracting or creating fear among all other WA holders who do not understand the underlying concept and the substance of this proposed transaction.
This book is the result of the author's many years of experience and observation throughout his 26 years in the stockbroking industry. It was written for general public to learn to invest based on facts and not on fantasies or hearsay....
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Good money is coming soon
Price Fixing Date will probably held in March 2021
Stay tuned. Stay positive.
Remember to Keep BUYING and BUYING. Remember to HOLD Tightly your ticket.
Now it is time for Mega Sales. At the price of RM0.39, BIMB WA is still very very CHEAP, need to use big bag to collect more and more. Let's compete with the Syndicates.....Remember Supply and Demand Theory in Microeconomics........ Buy more and leave limited supply in the market when the demand id extremely high. This is one of the strategies adopted by my team
Sure HUAT CHAI