Posted by qqq3 > 2018-04-20 10:34 | Report Abuse

dragonslayer > Apr 20, 2018 10:21 AM | Report Abuse

Aiyo qqq3...wait PetronM QR...too late oredy...look at international refiner QR....run or dun run...must decide oredy...wakakaka...kikiki
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no harm , no harm if you know what you are doing.

for me, I declare I got no HY but got Sapura.

Hy forum for me to entertain with butt spread without cream.

Posted by 10154675247544965 > 2018-04-20 10:40 | Report Abuse

Hy = The revenant

Posted by Alex™ > 2018-04-20 10:41 | Report Abuse

Answer oversupply. Coz Alex want collect rm5

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-04-20 10:44 | Report Abuse

hurricane season is in third quarter when no production...that don't look good.

but assuming normalised earnings is 40 sen a quarter or $ 1.60 p.a......a fair price would still be $ 12......
those willing to have some butt pain can still enjoy the pleasure of $ 12 at some point in the future.

Posted by Tongkarat > 2018-04-20 10:45 | Report Abuse

Ya ya ya...keep on promoting light blue eye flags....gooood

Posted by apolloang > 2018-04-20 10:46 | Report Abuse

I will vote the BLUE EYE boy.....hehe

Posted by Tongkarat > 2018-04-20 10:46 | Report Abuse

Come come VincentTang....need your support on light blue eye flag as well....

Posted by uptrending > 2018-04-20 10:47 | Report Abuse

Chart never tell lies... Human does...

Very ugly charts....

Posted by Tongkarat > 2018-04-20 10:47 | Report Abuse

Thank you apolloang....thumbs up to you...

Posted by GoodBoy > 2018-04-20 10:47 | Report Abuse

Oops ! ... keep dropping ...

Posted by vivoviva > 2018-04-20 10:52 | Report Abuse

morning. came to work late today. what is dropping?

Posted by kwang2209 > 2018-04-20 10:56 | Report Abuse

Sampah stock

Posted by kentwoon > 2018-04-20 10:57 | Report Abuse

Drop to rm6 back, uncle koon sold https://youtu.be/D4u0dl3Tu6w

Posted by Maurice1688 > 2018-04-20 10:59 | Report Abuse

Panic selling, sold half of my holding, hopefully the price will recover

Posted by probability > 2018-04-20 10:59 | Report Abuse

$100 Oil Is Back On The Table
By Nick Cunningham - Apr 18, 2018, 6:00 PM CDT

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/100-Oil-Is-Back-On-The-Table.html

Oil prices will rise to $100 per barrel if Saudi Arabia gets its way.

Only a week ago, news surfaced that Saudi officials were quietly hoping to push oil prices up to $80 per barrel, which would help boost the valuation of Saudi Aramco IPO. But why not $100 per barrel?

Reuters reports that Riyadh would be fine with prices rising that far, which lends weight to the notion that OPEC will keep the production cuts in place even as its mission to drain surplus oil inventories around the world appears to be largely “accomplished.”

OPEC and its non-OPEC partners are even considering yet another extension that would push the cuts into the middle of 2019. But with inventories back to average levels and expected to fall for the foreseeable future, the production limits would surely push the market into a deficit. The over-tightening, presumably, would lead to higher oil prices…just in time for the Aramco IPO.

Posted by Tongkarat > 2018-04-20 11:01 | Report Abuse

Come come Maurice1688....joining hand support light blue eye....

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-04-20 11:02 | Report Abuse

now you know why they bomb Syria and maybe Iran in future.


because Aramco wants it.

Posted by Lukesharewalker > 2018-04-20 11:03 | Report Abuse

this is wave 2, better accumulate for wave 3....circa 4 to 6 ringgit up

Posted by vivoviva > 2018-04-20 11:04 | Report Abuse

dont talk shit la. oil price go up or down u still need to use it till people find out alternative. any mode of transport need fuel. unless u can buy a full electric car like telstra. but the problem is u cant afford one. so oil up or down u also have to deal with it.

Posted by pang72 > 2018-04-20 11:06 | Report Abuse

Dragon, what is the debate title for today making hrc dropping so much?

Posted by Donovan > 2018-04-20 11:11 | Report Abuse

Continue buy

Posted by Tom > 2018-04-20 11:11 | Report Abuse

Karma will take care of nasty liar stockraider, 18-stories condo hell is his new home

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-04-20 11:12 | Report Abuse

y Tom > Apr 20, 2018 11:11 AM | Report Abuse

Everyone should feed stockraider tons of dog poop
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hahahahaha.....some more, raider is BN dog.

Posted by probability > 2018-04-20 11:12 | Report Abuse

SPECIAL QUIZ.....


CRACK SPREAD drop by 4 USD/brl now from 10.5 USD/brl in 2017 (without hurricane effect which shot it to 15 USD/brl almost 1.5 month) to 6.5 USD/brl.

anyone CARE & DARE to find out the implications on EPS going forward?

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YOU CAN EVEN TAKE OUT THE INVENTORY BULLSHIT HERE AS CLAIMED BY SOME

IMPORTANT THING IS TAKE NOTE THAT "1 USD/BRL CHANGE" RESULTS WITH 160M IMPACT ON GROSS PROFIT PER ANNUM.
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Posted by Icon8818 > Apr 7, 2018 07:00 PM | Report Abuse

Gross Profit for 2017 was 1430M

Take out inventory Gain of 400M in 2017, Gross Profit becomes:
= 1030M


Consider Inventory loss of at least 100M, Gross Profit becomes:
= 930M

Consider Fixed cost of 150M per qtr x 4 qtrs per year:
= 600M


PBT for 2018 without any shutdown & upgrade
= 330 M

PAT for 2018 without any shutdown & upgrade
= 250M

EPS for whole year 2018 = 83 cents (considering the same exceptional refining margin in 2017 - Hurricane Harvey)

Do you know it only takes 1 USD/brl refining margin reduction to wipe out 160M profit in 2018.

If you consider that, the PBT becomes, 170M and PAT becomes 130M.

That is an EPS of 43 cents without any funny assumptions going forward.


43 cents per annum means 10 cents per qtr.

This means HY was generous to give a 2 cents dividend with a payout of 20%

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-04-20 11:14 | Report Abuse

margarine spread aka synthetic sppread

plane complains they are all synthetic spread

Posted by filidon > 2018-04-20 11:14 | Report Abuse

crude oil price keep increase, to me is a surprise frankly. the US Shale Oil seem not be able to press down the price. In the long run , oil price cannot sustain high due to introduction of electric car and high output from US Shale oil.

Posted by Lukesharewalker > 2018-04-20 11:14 | Report Abuse

low volume price down...shorties daring

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-04-20 11:15 | Report Abuse

probability...don't lah.....don't drag out false information and fake forecasts.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-04-20 11:16 | Report Abuse

dragonslayer > Apr 20, 2018 11:15 AM | Report Abuse

Aiyo...me mah hou pao again ...you see...why red....I told many times oredy....from my past observation lah....so many times observe oredy....chicken monk come out promote only....si liao lor...sure red one....why leh...until now...I also dunno lah....cant find any clue also lah...only those with very good imagination one...can try try break the puzzle lor...why like that one....whenever chicken monk come out after green...it will turn red later one....aiyoyo....kikiki
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its called bad luck or karma

Posted by titus > 2018-04-20 11:18 | Report Abuse

who let the dog out...woof ....wooof

Posted by probability > 2018-04-20 11:18 | Report Abuse

aiyo dragon....of course chicken will scream when it sees potential danger approaching its egg basket...

musang will quietly grab and go ma..

what scream also no use at the end..

Posted by vivoviva > 2018-04-20 11:22 | Report Abuse

KYY sitting down drinking coffee and laughing what a bunch of sorhyess making noise here. some dont even have trade account and someone call himself dragon but in actual fact tadpole. wakakaka kiikikiki aiyoooo kikiki

Posted by 3iii > 2018-04-20 11:23 | Report Abuse

There is a musang running around in this forum without its tail.

Posted by probability > 2018-04-20 11:25 | Report Abuse

once the news "High OIL PRICE proves TOO HOT for refinery to handle"" goes to the public media again....

all uncle, aunty including big whale will panic and sell!

Now other than ''those well informed in i3'' are not aware whats happening with refineries due to spike in oil price....

some even playing with TA to buy..kikiki

Posted by titus > 2018-04-20 11:29 | Report Abuse

vivo....KYY is sitting down drinking coffee and laughing.....but are you?
i hope u r not squatting down pooping and lausai'ing.....

Posted by vivoviva > 2018-04-20 11:31 | Report Abuse

tits us. i dont squat down and poo. i sit down in ur laoubu face and poo on her

Posted by titus > 2018-04-20 11:33 | Report Abuse

lol...i can sense alot of anger and anxiety from vivo....

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-04-20 11:33 | Report Abuse

probability

you have been warned...there is a fake news act...5 years jail.....for those spreading fake news and fake forecasts.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-04-20 11:35 | Report Abuse

Posted by Icon8818 > Apr 7, 2018 07:00 PM | Report Abuse

Gross Profit for 2017 was 1430M

Take out inventory Gain of 400M in 2017, Gross Profit becomes:
= 1030M
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probability

you have been warned...there is a fake news act...5 years jail.....for those spreading fake news and fake forecasts.

Posted by apolloang > 2018-04-20 11:36 | Report Abuse

this is no fake news.....kyy play with u all,he buy and sell everyday. u all sell he buy,u all buy he sell.

Posted by probability > 2018-04-20 11:39 | Report Abuse

another "clear & present" danger to HY:
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Even HY release a spectacular EPS for Q1 2018 (which is extremely unlikely).....

IB will SHORT HY if market rush in to buy!

WHY?

Because its immediate future after the earnings announcement is super bleak...

Posted by abcde12345 > 2018-04-20 11:41 | Report Abuse

gogo

Posted by Jerry Yip > 2018-04-20 11:43 | Report Abuse

Kikkiiikikkkiikikikiikikikikikikikkik up up.up

Posted by 3iii > 2018-04-20 11:44 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by kentwoon > 2018-04-20 11:46 | Report Abuse

I sold out and run, waiting new lowers price come back

Posted by probability > 2018-04-20 11:48 | Report Abuse

aiyo nemo...when was my prediction wrong...show me proof leh...dont simply quote by plucking from thin air liao...kiki

Posted by 3iii > 2018-04-20 11:49 | Report Abuse

>>> Posted by kentwoon > Apr 20, 2018 11:46 AM | Report Abuse

I sold out and run, waiting new lowers price come back<<<


Poor soul.

Always panic sell.



BFS STS

Posted by 3iii > 2018-04-20 11:58 | Report Abuse

These are the great companies in Bursa.

LPI 8621
NESTLE 4707
PBBANK 1295
AEONCR 5139
HEIM 3255
PANAMY 3719
PPB 4065
UTDPLT 2089
CARLSBG 2836
HLBANK 5819
HLFG 1082
AHEALTH 7090
DLADY 3026
F&N 3689
GENTING 3182
HARTA 5168
MYEG 138
GENM 4715


Buy these companies at fair prices and hold them for the long term.

You will be rewarded with dividends and capital appreciation safely and with little time spent to maintain your portfolio.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-04-20 11:58 | Report Abuse

by apolloang > Apr 20, 2018 11:36 AM | Report Abuse

this is no fake news.....kyy play with u all,he buy and sell everyday. u all sell he buy,u all buy he sell.
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40 sen earnings p.a. is fake forecasts designed to cause panic and misleading......and spread by irresponsible people.



learn from 3iii.....that is the way to write responsibly.......

Posted by John_Lee > 2018-04-20 12:05 | Report Abuse

Probability Prick,

You so bearish on hengyuan, YOU SHORT HENGYUAN OR NOT? Got or not? Terang-terang tell la.

If not, then you talk so much nonsense for what? What is your intention? Come clean.

You are such a non-credible prick!